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may find upsetting. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
I promise to honour my God, my Queen and my country | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
and to do my best to serve him loyally and honourably | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
at all times... | 0:00:22 | 0:00:22 | |
The Army, Air and Sea Cadets. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
Youth organisations where nearly 130,000 children in Britain | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
seek fun and adventure. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
I further promise to be a good citizen and to do my duty | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
to God and the Queen, my country and my flag. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:38 | |
Overseen by the Ministry of Defence, the state is responsible | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
for the welfare of cadets. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
Fire! | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
And to do my best to serve loyally and honourably at all times. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
Look up. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
Children who joined the cadets make a promise to serve loyally. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
But for some, that promise was betrayed. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
People in positions of power abused their trust and committed | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
the most serious crimes. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
Crimes, that in many cases, were covered up. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:16 | |
Stewart was an air cadet in the 1990s. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:35 | |
This is the moment he confronts the cadet officer who | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
abused him as a child. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
14 years after the abuse, Stewart secretly recorded this confession. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
I was doing it to stop him causing any more damage to young | 0:02:04 | 0:02:10 | |
people in the future. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:15 | |
Finally, I'll be able to do something about something | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
that's been bugging me for a long, long time. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:27 | |
Today, Stewart has come to see lawyers David and Rebecca, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
who're trying to uncover the extent of abuse within the cadets. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
Good to see you. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
They're pursuing compensation case against the Ministry of Defence | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
for what happened to Stewart. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
The man Stewart had confronted was Chris Day, the commanding | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
officer of his air cadet unit in Woodford, Essex. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
Day, abused Stewart on a cadet trip when Stewart was 15. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
More than a decade later, Stewart went to see Chris Day | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
with a hidden recording device. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:10 | |
I went straight down to where he worked. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
He came out of his office and he went white as a ghost. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
Then he said, "not here at my work". | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
"Please, please, please." | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
And started begging. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
So I said, come back to my house. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
Come and see me, we have to talk. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:32 | |
Chris Day was tried and his confession was | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
played at the court case. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
He was sentenced to two years in prison. | 0:03:55 | 0:04:05 | |
Stewart's story is not a one-off. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
For the last seven months, Panorama has been investigating | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
sexual abuse within the cadets. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
Repeatedly, across the country, we've found a pattern of senior | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
members of the cadet forces who knew abuse was going on, but didn't | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
report it to the police. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:32 | |
David and Rebecca work for law firm, Bolt Burdon Kemp, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
who specialise in making claims in child abuse cases. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
I think when we received our first instruction to bring a claim | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
against the MoD for abuse in the cadets, at the time | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
there was no real way to know this was going to be on the scale | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
that it is today. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
But slowly and gradually, more and more clients | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
have come forward to us, seeking help to hold the MoD | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
to account and I can only see that rapidly increasing in the future. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
I have absolutely no doubt that the abuse in the cadets | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
will mirror the other scandals like the Jimmy Savile case, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
like abuse in the Scouts, like abuse in the Catholic Church. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:19 | |
Our investigation took us to Cheshunt, in Hertfordshire, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
and to Tony, who lived nearby as a boy. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
He joined the Cheshunt Sea Cadets in 1979 aged 13. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:41 | |
He was quite a quiet boy. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
He liked his motors and all that when he was little. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
Then as he grew up, my dad had been in the Navy and he was very | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
interested in that sort of thing. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:57 | |
The reason I joined is because my parents wanted to keep me off | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
the streets and out of trouble. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
I must admit, the things I did there, I would never | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
have done otherwise. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
Shotguns and 303 rifles, sailing and all that, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:16 | |
which was real good fun. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
Tony regularly went on trips with the unit to naval bases. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
He loved the experience, until he went for a long weekend | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
to HMS Pembroke in Chatham, Kent in 1981. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
Tony comeback from the trip and he was very quiet. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:38 | |
Tony come back from the trip and he was very quiet. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
He didn't have a lot to say about it, which we thought was strange. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
Anyway, then I got talking to him, I think it was | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
the second day he was home. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
And he said, "I don't want to go". | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
He was due to go on another trip and he said, "I don't want to go". | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
I said, "why on earth don't you want to go?" | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
And it came out. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
This is the first time Tony has spoken to anyone about this | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
outside his close family. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:01 | |
I was away on a trip, in a mess hall, with about 20, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
30 kids in it, you know? | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
One night, obviously there was a sensation and I woke | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
up and there he was. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
I think he was actually crouching down by the bed and then he stood up | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
as soon as I woke up and... | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
I looked down and I was exposed, you know? | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
There's no doubt in my mind that... | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
You know? | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
He was touching me. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
No doubt in my mind whatsoever. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
You were 15, how did you react? | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
Shocked. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:45 | |
You were wondering all night, you know, what's going to happen, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
is he going to come back, what do you do? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
Where do you go? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
And then the next morning, I was still thinking, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
has this happened to me? | 0:07:58 | 0:08:06 | |
The man in question was Allan Waters, then aged 33. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:12 | |
In his day job he was working with children at the local | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
education authority. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
In his downtime he was the commanding officer | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
of the Cheshunt Sea Cadets unit. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:26 | |
My dad was really angry, he wanted to sort of, kill him. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
My husband was absolutely distraught. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
He went out in the car and look for where Waters lived and thank | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
God he didn't find him, because if he had, I think we would | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
have ended up being in trouble. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:47 | |
Carole and her husband approached a senior member | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
of Cheshunt Sea Cadets and told him what had happened to their son Tony. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
He promised action and reported it up the cadet chain of command. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
A few days later, Carole and her husband had a visit | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
at the family home. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
These two people come from the head office and they turned up | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
in a really big posh car and they had full uniform | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
all on and all like, I can remember gold bits | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
on the uniform. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:22 | |
The men who came to the house completely accepted Tony's | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
allegations, but said they wanted to deal with the matter internally. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
We was ready to go to the police and they convinced us that we should | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
not go to the police. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
They tried to explain to us that if we went to the police, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
that the Sea Cadets could be stopped and therefore, it wouldn't do | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
the children in the area any good, because it does keep the children | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
off the streets and that. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:57 | |
So, I was really put in the position of, what do you do? | 0:09:57 | 0:10:07 | |
It became clear that other parents also had | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
concerns about Allan Waters. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
They were all invited by sea Cadet officers to Cheshunt Cadet Base. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
Waters wasn't present at the meeting. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:25 | |
There was other parents there as well. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
And it came out what he'd done to other boys. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:36 | |
He made it as if it had being having fun, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
like he'd put things on their willies, string and... | 0:10:41 | 0:10:49 | |
It was all like silly little sexual things. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
And between us parents that was there, we had to decide | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
what we was going to do. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
And it was decided that he would be dismissed from Cheshunt and not work | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
with children any more, if we didn't go to the police. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:16 | |
In return for not pressing the complaint, Tony's parents say | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
they were promised Allan Waters would never work | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
with children again. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
But panorama has discovered that was a lie. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
The Sea Cadets didn't dismiss him, they didn't even suspend him, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
in fact, they actually promoted him and moved him to another | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
division of the cadets. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:44 | |
But the warnings didn't stop. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Allan Waters' new job was Assistant District Officer | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
in north London, overseeing ten sea cadet units. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
Panorama has discovered this letter from an officer from one of those | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
units sent at the time. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
He tries to alert the Sea Cadets to the potential danger Waters poses | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
because it is inevitable he will come into | 0:12:02 | 0:12:11 | |
contact with children. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
The reply from the Royal Navy captain in charge of all | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
the Sea Cadets, says the allegations against Waters were thoroughly | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
investigated and not proved. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
In the reply, he also says Allan Waters' promotion had been | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
approved from the top because "his undoubted talent should | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
not be lost to the core." | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
It appears that Cadet High Command disregarded Tony's allegation | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
and the concerns of other parents and allowed Allan Waters to continue | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
having full access to children. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:44 | |
TRUMPET PLAYS. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
In the late 70s, the Ministry of Defence made this recruitment | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
film, promoting the culture of cadet life and how instructors | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
could help guide children. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
In many cases, young cadets came from deprived backgrounds. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
Their welfare was entrusted to the care of cadet staff. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
All volunteers with day jobs. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:13 | |
For difficult or distressed youngsters coming in, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
they can immediately identify and feel secure. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
There is a family setup, if you like. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
They know what's required of them, they know what we want to do. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
I think immediately, you know, they've got this | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
feeling of security. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:36 | |
By the 1980s, Britain's cadet forces where at the heart of many | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
communities across the country. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:40 | |
Glasgow was no exception. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:46 | |
One of the city's army cadet centres, the Glasgow | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Highlanders Battalion was based on Hotspur Street on the west | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
side of the city. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
The commanding officer here was 30-year-old John Fitzpatrick, | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
who was very popular with the boys in his care. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
In 1987, Gordon was an instructor at the unit. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:10 | |
He was told that Fitzpatrick had sexually assaulted a cadet. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
Three young cadets come over to me and said they would | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
like to have a wee chat in private. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:25 | |
They witnessed sexual abuse in one of the cadet rooms | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
in an overnight stay. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
Gordon went straight to the police to report the allegations | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
about John Fitzpatrick. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
But when he told his senior officer what he'd done, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
the man was furious Gordon had involved the police. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:48 | |
He went ballistic, he was shouting over the phone, swearing. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Saying that I shouldn't have done, went to the police. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
I should have phoned him and he would have dealt with it. | 0:14:53 | 0:15:05 | |
Glasgow Cadets didn't just put pressure on Gordon. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
Panorama has spoken to the parents of the boy abused at the Cadet unit. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:13 | |
They were also told not to go to the police. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
That's a story we've heard before. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
In Cheshunt, Tony's parents were pressured not to report | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
an incident of child abuse. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
And here in Glasgow too, the Cadets apparently didn't want | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
the police to investigate criminal activity committed by | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
the commanding officer. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:40 | |
But John Fitzpatrick was suspended after the boy's parents refused | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
to be bullied into silence. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
They went to the police. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:46 | |
And the case went to court. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
Panorama understands the jury came back with a verdict of not proven. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
In Scottish law that means acquittal where there isn't enough evidence | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
to prove the allegations. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
John Fitzpatrick went straight back into the unit and took up his role | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
as commanding officer once again. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
Strangely it was like a hero's welcome. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
Kind of slapping your back and welcome back, kind of thing. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
And I was shocked at the reception he got. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
Nobody investigated John Fitzpatrick, never came | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
in and spoke to the Cadets, never came and spoke to me. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:30 | |
Another boy, Colin, then joined the Cadet unit in Glasgow. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
Here he is with John Fitzpatrick. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Or Fitzy as the boys knew him. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:41 | |
What was he like? | 0:16:41 | 0:16:42 | |
How was he running the unit? | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
He was good. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
He was entertaining, he was fun. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:46 | |
Did you enjoy it? | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
It was, aye, it was to begin with. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
We'd heard that he'd been done with stuff before but at that | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
point they were going, oh, that's Fitzy, he's taken him | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
in there, he's going to be... | 0:16:56 | 0:16:57 | |
It was just a joking thing between boys. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
And when did that change? | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
For you? | 0:17:01 | 0:17:02 | |
It changed for me when I seen something happen. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:12 | |
One night, Colin was sleeping in a van on the roadside | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
with John Fitzpatrick and another boy on a Cadet trip. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:25 | |
And what happened was Fitzpatrick was lying in the middle. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
And myself and another on the other side. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
Lying on the wooden benches in our sleeping bags. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:37 | |
And what did you see? | 0:17:37 | 0:17:38 | |
So I just happened to wake up and as I happened to wake | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
up they turned round, Fitzpatrick was sitting up | 0:17:42 | 0:17:48 | |
and I could see the two fingers doing this and masturbating | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
the other boy. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:55 | |
And at that point I turned back round | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
and I grabbed my sleeping bag. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
And I used to have a knife that my uncle gave me. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
I called it a Rambo knife, kind of thing. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
So what I done was I took that out of my rucksack, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
took it close to me, and lay there. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:20 | |
So he must have known that me, being nervous, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
that I had moved anyway. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:28 | |
So he then lay back down and I just faced into the bench. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
Were you scared? | 0:18:31 | 0:18:32 | |
I was scared, aye. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:33 | |
It was that way, you were falling asleep for a wee minute but wakening | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
back up the whole night. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
After what he witnessed in that van, Colin did talk to an older Cadet. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
He thought it would be passed up the chain of command | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
and action would be taken. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
Instead, he was summoned to see Fitzpatrick. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:58 | |
That night I got took up into his office, got marched | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
straight into his office. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
He asked me whether I was spreading any rumours about him. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
I denied all knowledge. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:13 | |
And after that did you feel able to tell anybody else or did you just | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
stop talking about it? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
I stopped talking about it. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
John Fitzpatrick stayed in charge of the unit and scores of other boys | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
were under his care for years. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
The secrets of what happened in Glasgow in the 1980s | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
remained untold for decades. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:39 | |
Joe does house clearances. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:43 | |
A few years ago he got a call to clear out a flat in a tower block | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
on the east side of Glasgow. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:56 | |
I got a phone call to go to a block of flats over on a side of the city | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
that I don't normally go to, I don't normally get many calls. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
But with the internet you can get a call to go anywhere. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:13 | |
I still, even at this stage, I didn't know where I was going. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
Then as I got out of the car park and I walked in to the block | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
of flats, everything hit me. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
It was like the smell of the place, was exactly the same | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
as what I could remember it 25 years before. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:31 | |
Joe was having a flashback. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:32 | |
He had indeed visited the flats before. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
He too had been a Cadet at Fitzpatrick's unit in the 1980s. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
He realised he'd returned to the block where John Fitzpatrick lived. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
Where he'd been taken several times as a young boy. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:53 | |
It was like a privilege to be chosen. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
To go to his house. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:01 | |
He used to take us in the back of an army truck, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
there was no windows. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
So I didn't know where I was going, because it was a different side | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
to the city that I didn't recognise, I'd never been to before. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
I'd heard about the nights where you get to play computer games | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
and he gets you drunk and you're allowed to drink. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
And it kind of felt kind of grown up. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
But then there was other things that went on that weren't very pleasant. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:28 | |
Joe was 11 the first time he went to John Fitzpatrick's flat. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
After the boys had been plied with alcohol, Fitzpatrick put | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
on videos for them to watch. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
Pornographic material, but I don't mean pornographic | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
material like an adult channel. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
I mean real hard-core stuff that I've never seen | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
since I was in that guy's company. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Or that guy's house. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
Images that have stuck with me in my mind to this day. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
If anybody put images like that in front of my kids, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
I'd want to kill them. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:01 | |
After the videos ended, the boys would sleep | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
on sofas in the living room of John Fitzpatrick's flat. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
He would sleep in the same room as us. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
On the floor. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:11 | |
And as I would wake up, he would move away from us. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:20 | |
But the more confident he got, you could tell he was getting more | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
confident and he would kind of stay there. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
Even though he knew you were kind of awake. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:32 | |
Each of the four times that I woke up in the middle of the night | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
with my trousers down round my ankles, my | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
pants around my ankles. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:38 | |
And him over me, touching my privates. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
Joe didn't speak about the abuse for 25 years. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
It was only that chance visit to the block where Fitzpatrick lived | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
that made him go to the police, just a few years ago. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:56 | |
Last year, a rather different looking John Fitzpatrick was charged | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
with lewd and libidinous behaviour against Joe and three other boys. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
And this time the case against him was proven. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
He was sentenced to two years in prison. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:12 | |
It was the biggest, best relief in the world, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
when the guy in the jury stood up and went, guilty on all counts. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
Guilty, guilty, guilty. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
And she said, take him down. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
And I was cheering. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
It was a big, big weight off my shoulders. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:32 | |
It's the MOD's responsibility to make sure that their | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
kids are protected. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
And it's the right kind of people they've got in those positions. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:46 | |
He worked, I don't know, say a decade in there. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:50 | |
They must have hundreds of kids that went through at the same age, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
11 to 13, 12 to 14. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:54 | |
There must be so many more that could be out there that | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
he's sexually abused. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
The abuse Joe suffered has had a significant impact on his life. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:07 | |
You'd forget it for years, weeks, months, and then it | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
would hit you, bang. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
And I tended to drink to block it out, to not feel anything any more. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
Didn't want to think about it. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:20 | |
In 2001 the Ministry of Defence's own police force did investigate | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
historic abuse at Glasgow's and Lanarkshire's Cadet units. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
It resulted in the two former instructors being jailed. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:31 | |
But John Fitzpatrick's unit wasn't part of the investigation. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:41 | |
OK, fellas, you're on your own from now on. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
This is where I leave you. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:52 | |
Joe is travelling to London for a meeting with lawyers David | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
and Rebecca to discuss whether he has a financial claim | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
against the Ministry of Defence. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:07 | |
It's a simple choice. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
What do you value more, the reputation of the organisation, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
or the welfare of vulnerable children in your care? | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
And clearly in these instances they made | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
a terrible, terrible choice. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
I mean, there's absolutely no excuse for that to ever take place. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
And that's the thing that allows abuse to continue for years | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
and years and years. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:34 | |
I found out that there's people could have stopped it. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:44 | |
That worked in the MoD, that knew that he'd been | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
accused of this before. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:48 | |
That this had went to court before. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
Yet they let him back in and then he's done that to me. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
I don't know how different my life would have been. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
I'm finding that hard to come to terms with right now. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
He should never have been let anywhere near that group. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
And you should not have come into contact with him. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
And if they had acted properly and stopped him | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
from rejoining the group, then none of this | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
would have happened. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:08 | |
And because of that, they are negligent and they are | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
responsible for what happened. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:11 | |
To date, the Ministry of Defence has paid out more than ?2 million | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
to victims of Cadet abuse. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:16 | |
And that's likely not the end of it. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
Across the country, we've talked to new survivors | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
who have never before spoken about their experiences. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
And we've found repeatedly that senior figures within the Cadet | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
forces tried to cover up the abuse suffered by children in their care. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
Right, keep in your ranks... | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
Was there anything about the Cadet force that made child | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
abuse more possible? | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
The children who joined the Cadets were trained to follow orders. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
To obey authority figures. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
Was that exploited by abusers? | 0:26:43 | 0:26:53 | |
Martin was an Army Cadet at Tennal Grange in South Birmingham. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
His commanding officer was Brian Leonard. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:12 | |
The atmosphere was one of a military establishment. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:18 | |
You learned very quickly to obey orders. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
You learned very quickly to do as you were told. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
And not to question. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
There was a culture of abuse from the offset. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:34 | |
What do you mean by that? | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
Well, part of the induction, part of the training | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
as an army cadet was... | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
I remember we were stood in a big circle and you literally had | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
to punch your mate to your left as hard as you can in the face. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
That was part of your induction training. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
Probably not the official induction training, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:54 | |
but that was what I remember, all standing in a circle | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
and punching each other in the face and trying not to cry. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
And that was part of the induction. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:06 | |
Was anyone aware what was happening to you? | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
Well, this is the thing. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
It was so blatantly obvious, it was almost as if it was | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
hidden in full sight. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:21 | |
I was systematically abused and raped repeatedly over many years. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
And you're trained to respect the elders and respect the officers | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
and do as they tell you. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:38 | |
And that does include having to lie on the floor on a dirty... | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
On a dirty blanket. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
On a dirty blanket, and just lie there and take it. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:51 | |
You just follow the orders, just do as you're told. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
Do as you're told. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 | |
Lie on the floor and take it like a boy. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Otherwise, you know, you're not made strong stuff | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
if you don't lie there and take it. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
Just take it like a man. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:12 | |
But Martin wasn't alone. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:15 | |
We have spoken to ten former cadets who were abused | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
by Brian Leonard in the 1980s. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:22 | |
For years they all believed that nobody had ever spoken out | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
about what had happened at Tennal Grange. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
They were wrong. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
Someone had tried to blow the whistle, and it was covered up. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
In 1987 one of Brian Leonard's victims told his girlfriend | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
what had happened to him when he was at the Army Cadets. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:45 | |
It had ruined his life. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
She has never spoken about it before. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:55 | |
I was asking him all the time, you know, what's wrong? | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
What's wrong? | 0:29:58 | 0:29:59 | |
I could see he wasn't his normal self. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
And he just said, I've got something to tell | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
you that no one knows, and I don't want | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
you to tell anybody. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
And he told me that he'd been abused at the cadets. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:19 | |
When he used to go away on camps, you know, this Leonard had | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
done things to him. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:29 | |
Sarah went to Tennal Grange to find Brian Leonard. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:35 | |
She wanted to confront him about what he'd done to her boyfriend. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:44 | |
And I just basically attacked him. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
I said, "you've been abusing my boyfriend." | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
And he said, "don't be stupid, he's a liar". | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
He said a few things to me, pushed me towards this table and chairs. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
I picked up this chair and I remember, I was going | 0:31:02 | 0:31:07 | |
to launch it at him and then this other Sergeant came | 0:31:07 | 0:31:17 | |
in and saw me and said, "what the hell's going on in here?" | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
And I told him and he said "no, we'll talk to you, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
we'll take a statement." | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
Sarah's statements set out how Leonard had | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
abused her boyfriend. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:28 | |
She also planned to go to the police. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
But like in Cheshunt and Glasgow, she was told not to. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:38 | |
Leonard said if I went to the police it would be me more in | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
trouble than him because they've got proof I attacked him and caused | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
damage at the cadet centre. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
She says the sergeant who witnessed the | 0:31:49 | 0:31:55 | |
altercation promised he would pass her statement on to superiors. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
If he'd done so, you might expect an investigation, | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
but neither Sarah nor her boyfriend were ever contacted | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
about the abuse by Brian Leonard. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
I should have investigated it. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
It shouldn't have been just pushed under. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
I am totally angry, I feel sick. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
I'm haunted by it, that they allowed it for so many years. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
They're responsible for everything. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
They should have been protecting me and | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
my boyfriend, but they didn't. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:36 | |
The Army Cadet Force had the chance to stop | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
Brian Leonard, but they failed. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
At least one of the people we've spoken to was abused after Sarah had | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
attempted to raise the alarm. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
This is a pattern we found repeatedly | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
during our investigation, of cadet officers failing to help victims | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
when faced with allegations against one of their own. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:08 | |
The Birmingham case was one of the first taken on | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
by lawyers David and Rebecca. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
It's also one of the biggest and most complex. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:21 | |
What became clear, was that Brian Leonard was not the only | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
abuser at Tennal Grange. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
When we first took on the Birmingham case, it quickly | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
became apparent that the problem the MoD were facing with regards to | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
abuse in the cadets was potentially huge. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
We started off with one client and then grew up to eight or nine | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
clients and this is a case involving more than one abuser who is | 0:33:40 | 0:33:47 | |
committing child sexual offences over decades. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:53 | |
Peter Cooper was an adult intructor in Birmingham, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
often working at the same cadet unit as Brian Leonard. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:02 | |
Robert had joined the cadets at the age of 12. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
This is where they used to bring us on a regular basis | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
in their vehicles and abuse us. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:16 | |
Soon after he joined he was propositioned by Peter Cooper. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:26 | |
I remember one of the times, we had a small kitchen area | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
where you would make coffee and stuff for break time | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
and I was working in there and Peter Cooper came | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
in and he said to me, he said "I'm going | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
to have something off | 0:34:41 | 0:34:50 | |
you by the time you're 16." | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
Did you know what he meant? | 0:34:52 | 0:34:53 | |
No, not at that time I didn't, but I think it became pretty clear | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
within a very short space of time what he did mean. | 0:34:57 | 0:34:59 | |
One incident of many sticks in his mind. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:03 | |
The day Cooper insisted the young cadet come to his house to pick up | 0:35:03 | 0:35:11 | |
some equipment for a trip. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:12 | |
He started to touch me. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
Then he took me into his kitchen and raped me in his kitchen. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:23 | |
I remember looking out of the kitchen window and there were | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
fields behind his house. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:34 | |
I was just looking at the fence in his garden, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:37 | |
just transfixed on points to hope it would finish quickly. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
Just a feeling of, you've got no power to fight it, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
you are a child and there's nothing you can do about it. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:53 | |
Robert left the cadets and didn't tell anyone about the abuse. | 0:35:53 | 0:36:01 | |
When he was 21, he began a successful career | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
as a police officer. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
One day, he was at work at Steelhouse Lane police | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
station in Birmingham. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:15 | |
I was asked to help make an arrest and told to go to one of the rooms | 0:36:15 | 0:36:20 | |
at the police station to wait for these other officers to turn up. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
I was just stuck there and in walked Peter Cooper. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:30 | |
His abuser Peter Cooper was also a police officer and had served | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
with West Midlands Police for 32 years throughout his | 0:36:33 | 0:36:35 | |
time at the cadets. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
He stuck his hand out and pretended I was his friend. | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
I shook his hand and that scared me, because I was an adult at that stage | 0:36:41 | 0:36:45 | |
and I suddenly realised that even though this abuse was never | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
going to happen to me again by these people, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
this individual still had a huge amount of control over me. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
And what was more worrying, we was investigating | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
people who were committing offences against children. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:04 | |
Peter Cooper was an officer in child protection for four years. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:08 | |
For Robert, discovering his abuser's job was to protect children | 0:37:08 | 0:37:13 | |
was a catalyst, he knew he had to act. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
I just broke down one day, walked out of the office | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
and at that point for me, it was a case of I was either | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
going to end my life, I was at a huge junction | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
where it was end your life or report it. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
And it was as simple as that. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
Robert's decision led to Cooper's dismissal from the police force. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
He went on trial for buggery and indecent assault and | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
went to prison. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
Throughout the trial, Peter Cooper maintained his | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
innocence and does to this day. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
BAGPIPES PLAY. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:55 | |
You see a cadet coming in who seems like any other boy and within a few | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
months he seems to have developed a great deal. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
He knows exactly where he is placed. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:06 | |
He says, right, here I am, I'm a recruit. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
Now, if I do so and so and so and so... | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
I think that the uncovering of this scandal around cadets | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
is going to be massive. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
I'm glad the spotlight is now being shone on that | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
particular murky world. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:29 | |
Oh God, our Father who has brought us together... | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
Peter Saunders, founder of the National Association | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
of People Abused in Childhood, was himself abused | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
by priests as a boy. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:43 | |
He is a leading advocate for survivors of child abuse. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
At NAPAC, we are aware of multiple cover-ups with many institutions | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
going back many decades. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
They're all extremely serious. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:58 | |
Any cover-ups of this nature are extremely serious and | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
need to be dealt with and certainly need to not be repeated. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:05 | |
And I think the cover-ups that are being exposed | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
here are as serious as anything we've heard of in the 20 years that | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
NAPAC has been running. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:20 | |
Three of the abusers in this film have served time in prison. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
Chris Day from Woodford Cadets. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
John Fitzpatrick from Glasgow Highlanders. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:31 | |
And Peter Cooper from Birmingham. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
All are now free. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
Brian Leonard died in 1996, having never faced justice. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
As for Allan Waters, even after he had abused Tony | 0:39:42 | 0:39:46 | |
in Cheshunt and his parents had been promised Waters would never have | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
contact with children again, he rose through the ranks | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
of the Sea Cadets for a further 23 years. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
But in 2006, he was finally brought to justice. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
He was arrested and put on trial in India for abusing and raping boys | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
at an orphanage in Mumbai. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
It was run by his naval friend Duncan Grant. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
The courts found them both guilty, but two years later | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
they weren't an appeal. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:21 | |
Waters gave an interview to the BBC, protesting his innocence. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
They are terrible crimes to be convicted of. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
I mean, I've been working on and off with people for years, years, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
years and years and years. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
You know, no problems at all. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:38 | |
But sometime after that interview, the pair were sent back to prison | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
by a higher Indian court. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
To protect the innocent and punish those who abuse them. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
That was the message from the Supreme Court as it | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
overturned the Bombay High Court's acquittal of two men | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
accused of paedophilia. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
Duncan Grant and Allan Waters, accused of | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
one of the biggest child sex abuse rackets in the country will now be | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
sent to prison for six years. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
Vindication for street children who managed | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
to speak up against them. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
But could those street children have been protected if the Sea Cadets had | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
acted differently faced with Tony's allegations 25 years before. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:22 | |
Made us feel terrible because we thought if we perhaps had | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
gone to the police we could have said that happening. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
I don't know. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:31 | |
Do you feel guilty? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
I feel guilty about that, yes. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
Waters returned to the UK in 2012 and was made to sign | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
the sex offenders register. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
In March this year, he still held a title in a naval | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
veteran's organisation - Honourary Secretary | 0:41:44 | 0:41:46 | |
of HMS President, Retired Officers Association. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
In response to the Allan Waters case, a spokesperson | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
for the Sea Cadets said: | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
For decades, the cadet forces in the United Kingdom have welcomed | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
hundreds and thousands of children into their ranks. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
But throughout the 1970s and 80s, a significant number | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
of those children suffered from a culture of silence. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
A culture, which, rather than tackle the abuse | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
going on, tried to cover it up. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
It was a serious institutional failure. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
The Ministry of Defence told Panorama: | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
For Martin, the abuse he suffered from age 12 completely changed | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
the course of his life. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:18 | |
I will never really know who I should be, | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
or who I should've been. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
I got above average on the UKLF, United Kingdom Land Force's | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
Cadet Leadership Course, I was selected to join | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
the Royal Marines. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:30 | |
I was told I should go to Sandhurst and get a commission in the regular | 0:43:30 | 0:43:34 | |
army and I WOULD get a commission in the regular army. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:43 | |
I'll never get those years back and those opportunities back | 0:43:43 | 0:43:49 | |
because they were wiped off, they were wiped out. | 0:43:49 | 0:43:58 | |
It's hard to know the extent of sexual abuse within | 0:43:58 | 0:44:05 | |
Britain's Cadet forces. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:06 | |
Panorama has obtained previously unpublished figures | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
from the Ministry of Defence, which show that in the last five | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
years, they've been made aware of 363 sexual abuse allegations. | 0:44:12 | 0:44:16 | |
99 instructors have been dismissed. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:20 | |
The men who have spoken out about what happened to them have | 0:44:20 | 0:44:28 | |
broken the wall of silence that surrounded the terrible events that | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
took place in the past. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:35 | |
What we don't know, is how many more are out there. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:45 | |
MUSIC: Hoppipolla by Sigur Ros | 0:45:21 | 0:45:28 | |
CRICKET RASPS | 0:45:29 | 0:45:30 |