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Britain is facing the biggest shake-up in food and farming

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since the Second World War.

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The direction will be higher prices, less choice and poorer quality.

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Some farmers fear a bad Brexit deal could drive them out of business.

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I've been through a couple of foot and mouth outbreaks.

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This is more important, more crucial to get right.

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Others say food standards could drop.

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We'll see the environment damaged, we'll see livestock cruelly treated.

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But could food costs actually be lower when we're out of the EU?

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If we buy food from world sources rather than just the European Union,

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prices are something like 20% lower on average.

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And can we strike a good deal?

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So we are a highly desirable market.

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That actually gives us some strength in our negotiation.

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We don't have to just roll over.

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This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for a realistic

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chance for us, to have a say in the way that our farms are farmed.

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Our farms and our food feels very British -

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traditional countryside

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and meals steeped in our culture.

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But in truth, the European Union affects every part of our food

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chain from field to fork.

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The EU say what farmers are allowed to grow

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and, indeed, what they're not.

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The EU sets animal welfare and food standards regulations,

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and will ban imports that don't meet them.

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EU payments come direct to farmers, keeping quite a few of them

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in business. And many of the people that pick and pack our food...

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..are in Britain thanks to EU rules

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on free movement of labour.

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And free-trade regulations mean that fresh fruit and veg

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and that cheeky continental treat are around all year duty-free.

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The EU even controls what can go on the label of our food.

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So when we do leave the European Union,

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where is our next meal coming from?

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Brexit negotiations have just begun, but the UK's divorce bill has

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to be agreed before we start to talk about trade.

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Food and farming, which together make Britain's biggest

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manufacturing sector by far, are ripe for discussion.

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So, I'm cooking up a traditional British lunch.

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Smells good.

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I've invited Guy Smith of the National Farmers' Union,

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food and farming campaigner Vicki Hird and James Cleverly MP,

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a Brexiteer and trade committee member in the last Parliament.

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What are their vital ingredients for a healthy

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exit from the European Union?

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Do you think this administration really values farming?

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Any civilised country has to ask itself,

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do we want to become

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recklessly dependent on imports for our food needs?

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And I accept that is a political question, there is no

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easy answer to that.

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But I think that's the question that we have confronting us

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-at this moment in time.

-What do you think, Vicki,

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do you think this is a kind of fork in the road moment?

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It is a fork in the road.

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We're demanding a massive refocus and rethink

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because a huge amount of protection

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that we've got for our water,

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for our wildlife, for our health, for our safety, comes from Europe.

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Because we're leaving the EU, there is no status quo option,

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so we're going to have to have some reform.

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The criticisms that we as a society, and perhaps as policymakers,

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have just

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not paid food and farming as much attention as it

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deserves, I think, is a very, very fair criticism.

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But we're not going to let vast tracts of the British countryside

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just go to weed.

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So the whole food chain is in for a shake-up,

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and it starts with farming.

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The EU strongly supports farmers,

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but far from all of them support the EU.

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Despite the fact that British farmers receive around £3 billion in

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subsidy payments from the European Union, many of them voted to leave,

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believing that life outside the EU provided them with more opportunity.

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So, with opinion split on the consequences of Brexit, we've been

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to visit two Welsh livestock farmers - one alarmed, one excited.

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24-year-old Jacob Anthony farms in the South Wales Valleys.

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I think one of the main reasons I voted to leave the EU is

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because I'm a young farmer and I'm looking to the future.

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I think a lot of us in the industry weren't happy with the way

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that our sector was going and the way that farming was going,

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so I felt that this was a once in a lifetime opportunity

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for realistic change.

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Away. Away, away. Away, away.

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Away, away, away.

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Jacob works alongside his father and grandfather to raise lamb and beef.

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He thinks Europe-wide decisions about farming just don't work.

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At the moment, with the way the EU works, there's one agricultural

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policy that's meant to fit all 28 nations that are in the EU.

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That agricultural policy was meant to fit countries farming

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reindeer in the Arctic Circle all the way down to

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farmers in the Mediterranean farming olives.

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He believes Britain's contribution to the European budget props up

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bad farmers here and boosts rivals overseas.

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British farmers and the British people are actually

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subsidising foreign countries in eastern Europe, for example,

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and improving their farming to help them become competitors with us.

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Jacob is keen to send his flock to new markets in places like China.

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I feel that by leaving the EU now it gives us a chance to have a

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head start and negotiate other trade links with emerging markets.

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Let's infiltrate them now and negotiate with them new trade deals

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that we haven't been able to whilst we've been a part

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of the European Union.

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60 miles north and back in early March, we visited

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when John Davies was checking on the lambs born overnight.

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It's a family business stretching back more than a century.

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I have a responsibility to the next generation.

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We didn't inherit this business from the last generation,

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we are merely caretakers for the next.

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He works alongside his wife, two children

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and 87-year-old father, who all muck in.

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Yeah, so we've got a few hundred ewes in here now,

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mainly twins, some ewe lambs here.

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John voted Remain,

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and sees huge peril in the wrong deal or a careless Brexit deal.

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Brexit could have a massive effect on our food-producing

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ability in this nation. That's a key strategic decision to make.

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Come on. Come on.

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He says continued subsidy is vital for the survival of hill

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farming especially.

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The new man in charge of agriculture, Michael Gove,

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has pledged to maintain current subsidy levels

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until at least 2022, but John is also very worried about trade.

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Trade is so important to sheep farmers because nearly 40%

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of lambs are exported and of those nearly all 95% go to the EU.

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We need unfettered

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and free access to the European market for what we produce.

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We need those standards to be equivalent for any products

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coming in.

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But if those standards are not the same, John fears cheap,

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mass-produced beef from international competitors

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will drive him to the wall.

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I'm really scared of imports produced to completely

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different standards, hormones, you know, feed-lock beef, etc.

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We're based on pasture, green, pleasant land.

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You know, high environmental standards.

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We really are proud of that.

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But pride alone can't support farming.

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He says we need a policy which echoes the wartime push to

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grow what we eat.

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-ARCHIVE:

-It's up to you - dig for victory.

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For John, it's important we aren't too dependent on foreign imports.

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He thinks it's a matter of our national security.

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I believe that we need to learn the lessons from the past.

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There was a real recognition of the need to produce a certain

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level of food here in the UK.

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We will soon dip below 50% of the food that we eat being

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produced in this country.

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I don't think that's a healthy position. I really don't.

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And across the border and into the Midlands,

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this British farming business say they could abandon these shores.

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G's Fresh in the Vale of Evesham is one of our biggest suppliers

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and growers of fresh vegetables.

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But they also have farms in Poland, the Czech Republic,

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Senegal and Spain.

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The company has around 3,000 foreign workers,

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mainly drawn from around Europe.

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Are there any British workers on the line here?

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-Yes.

-There are?

-Yes.

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-About roughly how many, I mean...

-Erm...

-Roughly.

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-Five.

-Five. Out of 80 or so working in here today?

-Yes.

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So they've got to find a lot more...

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-Yes.

-..if all the migrant labour goes.

-Yes. Yes.

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Yeah.

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So what are we looking at here?

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So this is the first of our UK asparagus, so we've literally

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just started harvesting in the last week, this crop is...

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Out in the field is managing director Derek Wilkinson.

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He's the boss and the only British passport holder.

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He's worried about losing his Bulgarian and Romanian pickers.

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The local area has very low unemployment, and Derek has

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found he can't recruit seasonal British workers in enough numbers.

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I can see why that matters to you

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but why should that matter to the UK shopper?

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Well, it depends whether the UK shopper wants British produce.

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Erm...

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You know, cos without the labour,

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75,000 seasonal staff employed in horticulture, and without

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that labour we will not have a British horticultural industry.

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The Government, aware of these concerns,

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may revitalise the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme,

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which gave access to foreign labour without the right to live here.

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Nearly four million people across the UK are employed in the food

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and drink sector, but Derek feels it's unloved.

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He's seen headlines about sweet hot deals for the car

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industry or banking, and fears farming may be sold out.

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The whole future of our horticultural

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industry could be decided in a simple late-night meeting

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and it could be a trade-off against something else, you know,

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keeping financial services here.

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That is the most worrying thing for us.

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And if it goes the wrong way for them,

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G's Fresh can still grow stuff - but just not here.

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We've got overseas operations,

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we've got the capability to go and set farms up anywhere.

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But leaving the UK is not a decision you'd take lightly?

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I'm a British farmer through and through and, yeah, to suddenly

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stop farming here, moving overseas, would be a heavy heart moment and...

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But, you know, we'd do it.

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The fate of farming is important

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but what happens to food and its price directly affects all of us.

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Some people are already struggling to afford three meals a day.

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This is a place where food prices really matter.

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The Kingstanding Food Community cafe is a charity serving

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affordable meals in a deprived area of Birmingham.

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It's open six days a week,

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staffed by a network of more than 80 volunteers.

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Since we voted Leave, some food staples have already risen 5%,

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mainly due to the fall in the value of the pound.

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Some analysts suggest another jump of 3-5% may be on the way.

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So what are you making here today?

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-We're making some bread today.

-Ah.

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So the bread is made every day in the community cafe to feed

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the local community.

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How do you think families round here are finding food prices currently?

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What we're finding is our volunteers increasingly,

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and rightly so, are going from shop to shop to shop to find

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where they can find their cheapest food.

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Kingstanding is in the top 1% on the deprivation index nationally, so

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you are in an area that's perhaps one of the most poverty stricken

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in the whole of the country in terms of both income and cuts in the area.

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We get people in here who are definitely hungry.

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So you really are trying to keep the prices as low as possible to make

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-them affordable for that clientele.

-To make them as affordable

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as possible for people, yes,

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so that they can access it daily if need be.

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To help keep meals healthy and their costs down,

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they get as much food as possible from their own allotment.

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Long term, if food prices continue to hike, it would have a

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massive impact on a project like this.

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We can't afford to put our prices up in order to cover

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the additional price because people simply won't come.

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So, yeah, it would have a massive negative impact.

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So how is leaving the EU going to affect food price and supply?

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The main supermarkets didn't want to be in this programme,

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so I met with Justin King,

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former chief executive of Sainsbury's, who supported Remain.

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There has been, in my estimation, almost no conversation

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about the potential impact of Brexit on the food supply chain.

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By definition, that means the public at large

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generally are completely in the dark.

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In the dark and, he says, facing three key dangers.

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I think one can say very clearly what the direction will be.

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You know, higher prices, less choice and poorer quality,

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because all of those dimensions have been improved by these open

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trading relationships that we've had over the last 40 years.

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Brexit, almost in whatever version it is, will introduce friction,

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it will introduce barriers.

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That makes it less efficient, which means all three of those

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benefits - prices, quality and choice - go backwards.

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Why are we not hearing this from the supermarkets?

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The last thing you're going to see the serving chief executive

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any retailer say is, "We intend to put up prices."

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The intention of supermarkets is to drive price down, quality up

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and, therefore, improve value for money.

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That was their ambition the day before the Brexit vote

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and it will remain their ambition after it.

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Brexit just made it a whole lot harder, in my estimation.

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Others are more optimistic.

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Consumer goods manufacturer and Leave campaigner John Mills

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believes the EU keeps prices artificially high for the shopper.

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Food prices inside the European Union vary from food

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product to food product, but on average they're something

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like 20% higher than they are in the rest of the world,

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so there's very substantial scope for food prices coming down

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if we switch source of supply outside the European Union.

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But that is because of a lower standard of production,

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and if we're going to get the cheaper price, we'll have to have

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-that lower standard.

-I don't think that's true at all.

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I think the reason why food prices are higher inside the European Union

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is because they've got tariffs which keep the prices up.

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It's not anything to do with quality,

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it's to do with the institutional arrangements, which means

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that the food prices are kept much higher to increase farmers' incomes.

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The Government has said little about plans for food

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and farming after Brexit, so we wanted to speak to the new

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Defra secretary, Michael Gove, or his team.

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But they declined.

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Defra said...

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The problem for our Brexit negotiators is that changing

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the food and farming system is likely to create winners and losers.

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If Britain opens up to the global market,

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shoppers might be winners, as it could drive down food prices.

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Under this scenario,

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farmers who mainly export worldwide could also win.

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But losers from freer trade would be those farmers unable to

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compete with cheap imports.

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And if instead the Government chose to protect those farmers and ensure

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higher standards, consumers could then lose out from higher prices.

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There's a lot at stake

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and the politicians want to get it right because every voter buys food.

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The Prime Minister has already been driving for new deals in America.

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Our special relationship with the USA could provide

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a source of cheap food.

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Much of that food could end up coming from here - this is Iowa,

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a state of pig farms, big fields and where pigs outnumber people by 7-1.

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Some feel food production in the USA is more factory than farming.

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The scale is huge in comparison to the UK.

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The USA is the world's largest beef producer,

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supplying one fifth of the beef eaten around the world.

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One person who has helped put steak many of those plates is

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Iowa cattleman David Trowbridge.

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So we are custom feeding these cattle,

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we like to say that we run a hotel and a restaurant.

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-So...

-And what is it that this hotel and restaurant is particularly

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offering that makes people bring their cattle here?

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Are you a farmer or a maitre d' for cows?

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We're pretty much cattlemen.

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Taking care of cattle is what we do every day.

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This farm houses up to 8,000 cattle

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being intensively fed and fattened up for market.

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They're outside, but not grazing, unlike our beef cattle,

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which are largely grass-fed.

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We have the grain and the resources

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to produce a very high nutrition,

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very desirable edible product for the world. And the United States

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is one...really the only place on earth that we can produce

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that product and Britain's a great possibility where we can go

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with our product and increase our profitability and provide a safe

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and nutritious product for the British people.

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With a new president in the White House, David feels it's time

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to make American farming great again and win new orders from abroad.

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With the new administration that we have, that wants to do

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bilateral agreements with individual countries, we are

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very excited about bringing the US product into Britain.

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What would you say to British cattle farmers -

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just tough that they've got to go to the wall?

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Well, we hope not, we don't want to destroy an industry

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within another country.

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But it's up to your consumers or what they want to pay

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for the product. If it costs more to produce it in Britain or

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if we can do it cheaper here, that is a concern.

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In the UK, we spend roughly 8% of our income on food.

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Americans spend just 6%.

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And that's less than any other country in the world.

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It's partly down to large-scale, cheap and efficient farming.

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Production methods may differ from Britain

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but one thing we have in common is family ownership.

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90% of farms here are run by families.

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The Meier have farmed here in Iowa for more than 100 years.

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Curtis has just invested 900,000 in this new cattle shed with

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rubber flooring, underfloor dung storage and variable ventilation.

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They're comfortable, they've got plenty of room to lay down.

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They're... You know, they're not overcrowded.

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We've had some southern cattle that we've brought in here,

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they were a little on the wild side, they'd be crawling the walls.

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You put them in here a week

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and they're a completely different pen of cattle.

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They're content, they just seem to adapt to the environment.

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Curtis' farm is surrounded by plenty of fields,

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but the cows aren't in them.

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It's where their feed grows, largely genetically modified crops.

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We don't grow any GM crops commercially in the UK -

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the EU severely restricts them.

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You've got 550 cattle in here.

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They're not going to get outside and be on grass.

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-Is that a problem for you?

-No. No. No.

-Is it a problem for them?

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I don't think so.

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Cos most British beef is raised outside on pasture

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and a lot of British farmers, and some shoppers,

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think that's the way it ought to be done.

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What would you say to that?

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You've got to have corn-fed beef to get marbling in the muscle.

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That is what adds flavour and juiciness

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and tenderness to that cut of beef, in my opinion.

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But probably the most controversial difference in livestock farming

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either side of the Atlantic is the American use of growth

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hormones banned in the EU.

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The hormone is administered with this

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and it goes in as an implant into the ear.

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Now, each shot costs about three or four dollars

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but the weight of meat it puts on is worth about 30-40.

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These hormones are banned in Britain.

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With potential foreign competitors using farming techniques

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currently prohibited in the UK, would we welcome their food?

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Let's ask. First stop on our trip, Leicester city centre.

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Here we go.

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Right, now we've got that sorted,

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the idea of this is to find out

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whether people would be inclined to buy imports

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if it made their food cheaper, and I'm going to get them

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to stick one of these Panorama logos on home-grown or

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imports, depending on what they think.

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If importing food made it cheaper, would you be happy to have

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more imports of food or would you stick with home-grown?

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Home-grown.

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-Lovely.

-If you can support the British farmers, I would.

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I could see us go back to the old values, really, you know,

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where everything was home-grown and England, you know,

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looked after itself.

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This, I would have 100%,

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-but we need to buy in...

-Mm-hm.

-..and we need to sell out.

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-OK.

-That's it.

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Lovely.

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Cross country, to a farm shop.

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Yeah, that's great.

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Here we are - Coventry farmers' market.

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-Here?

-Yup, perfect.

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-Come on, over you come. Don't be shy.

-Thank you.

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I can see you looking interested.

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People really do seem to favour the idea of British food.

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Whether they do that when they've actually

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got the money in their hands in the shop is a different matter,

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but they certainly sound convincing.

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So, I'm off - back to my lunch party.

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Guy, you know, we spoke to people and said, precisely,

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"If food imports were to make food a little cheaper,

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"would you like that scenario?" And they still said, "Stay home-grown."

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That's what WE hear.

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And that's really encouraging. And...

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But do you believe them?

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Well, I'm sceptical that they will deliver that.

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I'm aware that people tend to say things to people with

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clipboards outside supermarkets.

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Price sometimes sways consumers more than anything else

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and that's what we've got to be careful of.

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Price, of course, will be important.

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And for some people who are struggling financially,

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price of what you put on your plate and what you feed your children

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with is one of the most important decisions that they can make.

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It is very important, but we've got to remember when people

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are food poor, in food poverty, it's not necessarily

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about making food ever cheaper, lower quality or more processed.

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I get that, but you keep... you keep...

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And I'm going to pull you up on this every time you do it.

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You keep making the jump and it's a logic flaw

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to suggest that cheap means low quality.

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What you can see in America is a massive race to the bottom

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when it comes to food.

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They've really invested heavily in industrial systems,

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particularly when it comes to livestock.

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History has shown us that you can't just put up

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barriers to global markets.

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I mean, we do exist within global markets,

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we can't pretend that we don't and a lot of our animal welfare

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regulation, I think, is absolutely right and is not something I...

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I don't think, I don't perceive there being any appetite to row back

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on that. We don't need the EU's intervention to protect some of

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those things, cos British consumers would want to keep that.

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Well, I'm wary of that.

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That cheaper product grown to different standards,

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lower cost of production, will...

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may well win the day.

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We all eat and the food industry is worth more than car-making

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and aerospace combined.

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Farms cover almost three-quarters of our landscape.

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It's going to need a lot of

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special attention in Brexit negotiations,

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if we are not to have very material

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and adverse consequences downstream.

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It's not too late.

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But it's a pretty short period of time, a lot less than two

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years now, and food needs to get on the agenda pretty soon.

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The establishment doesn't really like Brexit

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and they're throwing up difficulties all over the place,

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which I don't think are going to materialise

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to anything like the extent to which they claim.

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The European Union is so ingrained in our food and farming

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that Brexit could change the face of our countryside,

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the fate of our farmers and the very stuff on our plates.

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