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This programme contains scenes of repetitive flashing images. | 0:00:00 | 0:00:04 | |
She's the most famous missing person in the world. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:09 | |
Please continue to pray for Madeleine. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
She's lovely. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
Ten years ago tonight, Madeleine McCann disappeared. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:21 | |
Clap your hands together. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:22 | |
One, two, three. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
But we're still finding out more about the case. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:28 | |
If you have Madeleine, let her come home to her Mummy, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Daddy, Brother and sister. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
Two police forces in two countries came to different conclusions | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
about what happened to her. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
Did two doctors cover up the death of their own | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
daughter whilst on holiday? | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
Of course not. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
For the first time, Portuguese detectives tell us what they think. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:59 | |
In your heart, do you think it will be solved? | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
It doesn't depend on my heart - it depends very much on our minds. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:08 | |
And we find the men British police have questioned about that night. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
What did they ask you about the burglary, Mr Ribiero? | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
No, no, no, no, no. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
What do you remember about it? | 0:01:26 | 0:01:27 | |
I remember everything. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
Ten years on ? what happened in this holiday village? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
What happened to Madeleine McCann? | 0:01:36 | 0:01:42 | |
The search for Madeleine McCann has moved a long way | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
from where she disappeared. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
It's now run from Lisbon by Portugal's most senior detectives. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:08 | |
The Policia Judiciaria - or PJ - are Portugal's national criminal | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
investigation force. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:17 | |
I've been asking for an interview for ten years. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:22 | |
Now they've finally said yes. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:27 | |
I've never been able to talk to somebody from the PJ. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
Why did you think it was important to talk now? | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
Madeleine McCann is a very unique case in Portugal. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
We've never had a case like Madeleine McCann | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
before and since then, never one after. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
So we really want to know what happened. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
First, because it's still a missing child case. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
Second, because we want to know in case in the future we face | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
another case like this. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
Across the city, Madeleine McCann's parents have been involved | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
in an important legal battle this spring. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
They sued a Portuguese detective who accused them of involvement | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
in their daughter's disappearance. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
They initially won, but there was an appeal. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
And the Supreme Court ? citing freedom of speech - | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
found against them. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
But it was worse for Madeleine's parents. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
The judges pointed out that the McCanns hadn't | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
been found innocent. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Rather, the case had been shelved because the police hadn't been able | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
to gather sufficient evidence. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
To the contrary. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
A decade since we all first heard Madeleine McCann's name, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
the case is still alive. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
And attention is once again falling onto a holiday | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
resort on the Algarve - Praia da Luz. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:07 | |
It has always been popular with British families. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:12 | |
But Luz changed ten years ago tonight. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:18 | |
Anyone who may have any information related to Madeleine's | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
disappearance, no matter how trivial, contact | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
the Portuguese police. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
Please, please do not hurt her. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
Please don't scare her, please tell us where to find her. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:37 | |
I first came here ten years ago, and when I was sent here I had no | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
idea what Madeleine McCann as a story would become, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
what this apartment ? 5A ? would come to mean. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Everybody would kind of know this place and everyone would get to know | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
this little girl's name. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
It's nearly a week now, can you tell us whether you really | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
are any nearer to knowing what happened to Madeleine? | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
We are still looking for her and we are pursuing | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
lines of investigation. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
I have a sort of weird relationship with this place because it's a long | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
time since I first came here, to this bland apartment, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
and yet something happened in there, something extraordinary | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
happened in there. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
A little girl went missing and she's never been found. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
Luz has also lived with the story for all these years. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
As we film, people are quick to let us know how they feel. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:47 | |
Sorry, are you starting the circus already? | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
Er, we are doing a documentary. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
Er, what's wrong with that? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
Because Luz should be left alone. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
Not McCann again. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
Why? | 0:06:00 | 0:06:01 | |
Because it's a waste of taxpayers' money. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
No, go on home. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:04 | |
Why? | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
Because it's a waste of taxpayers' money and I'm fed up of it. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
Give it to the bloody National Health. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
You go away. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
It could go on forever. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
And for the people here, they don't want that. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
It's just a big reminder of something really bad that | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
happened right on their doorstep. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:34 | |
So how close are we to really knowing what happened | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
to Madeleine McCann? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
The fact is that two different police forces in two different | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
countries have come up with two different theories. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
And both contradict each other. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
Tonight, we will show you the two theories and why both have failed | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
to solve this mystery. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:04 | |
The basic facts are well known. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
Nine friends went on holiday to the Ocean Club. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:18 | |
They went for meals at the tapas restaurant with the green roof. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:24 | |
Their eight children ? including three-year-old Madeleine ? had been | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
left sleeping in this apartment block 70 metres away. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:35 | |
The friends say they took it in turns to check on the children. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:42 | |
At 10 o'clock, it was Kate McCann's turn. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
She left the restaurant area and went up this road | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
to her corner apartment - number 5A - where Madeleine | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
and younger twins, Sean and Amelie, were asleep. | 0:07:54 | 0:08:01 | |
She went in through the unlocked patio door and went | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
to the children's bedroom. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:10 | |
She then opened the door, looked in, and in the darkness didn't | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
immediately realise that Madeleine wasn't there. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
She realised the curtains were flapping in the | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
window to the street. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
And it was open, which was not how they left it. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
They'd left the shutters down and the window closed. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
So, it was just this sense of sheer panic and rising fear and terror. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
She very, very quickly ran around the apartment, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
checking the wardrobes and other rooms to just make doubly sure. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:38 | |
But it was obvious that Madeleine wasn't there. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
And that's when she hurtled out through the patio door, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
shouting that somebody's taken her. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
Kate McCann told the police that when she came back to the apartment | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
and first realised her daughter had gone, this window at the back | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
of the flat was open. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
There weren't bars here ten years ago. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
The family thought she was taken through it. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
Much of what we're about to tell you has never been broadcast before. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:12 | |
The Portuguese case against the McCanns started right here. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:19 | |
Detectives did not believe Madeleine had been abducted through a window. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
They said these shutters could only be opened from the inside, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
and there was no forensic evidence that anyone had climbed | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
through the window. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:35 | |
The fingerprint traces collected are identified as being the middle | 0:09:35 | 0:09:44 | |
-- The only fingerprint traces were Kate McCann's. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
We couldn't show it at the time, but this is what Goncalo Amaral - | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
the original lead investigator - told me about the case. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
Detectives also had doubts about the group's | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
account of the night. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:20 | |
The police didn't believe the McCanns' time line ? | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
there were inconsistencies, they say, in the way the group | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
at the restaurant described the events of that night. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
Like the times they went up and down this street | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
to check on the children. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:34 | |
The police didn't pull their punches. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:40 | |
This is what the PJ's official report said. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
Where are we going, please? | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
The Portuguese police were also suspicious of the way | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
the McCanns were behaving. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
They clashed within hours because Madeleine's parents | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
contacted the media. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
A three-year old British girl has gone missing in Portugal. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
It's thought that she may have been abducted. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
The shutters had been broken open and they've gone into the room | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
and taken Madeleine. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
Madeleine McCann from Leicestershire was on holiday with her | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
family in the Algarve. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
Well, the Portuguese police advice was, "no media, no media". | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
That might be the Portuguese way, but it ain't, certainly | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
isn't the British way or the Western European way. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
Why would the McCanns feel that they know more | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
than a police force? | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
Richard, by midnight, 1am, the British media were being alerted | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
and the British media were beginning to make relevant enquiries. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
Now, there's none, there's nothing. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
I would do the same if I felt my child was missing and the police | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
officer in front of me was not really wanting to move heaven | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
and earth to get them back. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:05 | |
Do they regret it? | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
No, they don't regret doing anything that they felt increased the chances | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
of somebody seeing Madeleine, somebody spotting her, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
that could give that lead. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
We have got a short statement to make. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
Words cannot describe the anguish and despair | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
that we are feeling as the parents of our beautiful | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
daughter, Madeleine. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:29 | |
Never forget, at the centre of this is a child who is missing | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
and they were trying to do all that was humanly | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
possible for their daughter. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:42 | |
A British investigator brought in to help the Portuguese says | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
he initially had concerns about Gerry McCann. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
When I met Gerry I was struck by how cold and clinical he appeared to be. | 0:12:55 | 0:13:03 | |
So I did, you know... | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
I'm human as well as having been a police officer. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
I did think "hmm" and reflect on that. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
But I want to say very clearly that as time has gone on I became | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
absolutely convinced it wasn't the parents. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
But Portuguese detectives were looking at Kate and Gerry McCann. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:26 | |
And central to their theory were two sniffer dogs from the UK. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:33 | |
They assist investigations because they can find minute traces | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
of blood or where bodies have been. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
They were taken into apartment 5A ? three months after | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
Madeleine disappeared. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
Both reacted. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
The cadaver dog, which tracks the smell of a dead body, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
also grabbed Madeleine's favourite toy - Cuddle Cat. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
When the police found out the soft toy had been washed, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
they became more suspicious. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
Kate washed it because simply it had become dirty, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
quite filthy and grubby. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:12 | |
She'd been holding onto it in front of the world's media | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
for something like 70 days. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
If it was that important a piece of evidence, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
why did the Portuguese police allow her to keep it for 70 days | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
before she washed it? | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
Can you see why the police might view it as suspicious, though? | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
Particularly given that the dogs reacted to it? | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
Yeah, if you see the video, Richard, the dog pulls it out at one point | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
and then walks past it twice, without even going back to it. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:42 | |
But Cuddle Cat remained part of the Portuguese theory. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:48 | |
The sniffer dogs were also taken to check ten vehicles. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:55 | |
They only barked when they came to the McCann's hire car. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:00 | |
The dogs jumped into the boot. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
Their reaction was widely reported and was seen as damning | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
evidence in Portugal. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
How can you explain the coincidence of the scent of cadaver found | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
by British and not Portuguese dogs? | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Sandra, maybe you should be asking the judiciary, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
because they've examined all this. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:21 | |
So you don't have any explanation for that? | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
Ask the dogs, Sandra. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
Ask the dogs? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:27 | |
No, Gerry. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
Now I feel free to ask you. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
Do you remember talking | 0:15:34 | 0:15:35 | |
to Kate and Gerry McCann about the sniffer dogs? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
Do you remember that exchange? | 0:15:37 | 0:15:38 | |
I remember as if it was today. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
He answered me, ask the dogs. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
And I... | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
But what did you think about them? | 0:15:43 | 0:15:44 | |
I replied, I'm asking you, Gerry. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:45 | |
I think it was something like that. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
What did you make of Gerry McCann's reaction? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
I thought he's being arrogant, he's not understanding my point. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
I'm not offending him. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
I just want him to give me his opinion. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
Don't you feel free to answer me? | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
I can tell you that we've both looked at evidence about cadaver | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
dogs and they're incredibly unreliable. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
Unreliable? | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
Cadaver dogs. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:08 | |
Yes. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
That's what the evidence shows. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
If they're tested scientifically. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
He just tried to fight. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
It was a kind of a fight, not a kind of an interview. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
It got worse for the McCanns. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
Traces of blood were discovered in the apartment. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:29 | |
The police found tiny samples of DNA in the car and in this apartment. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
Early tests suggested that DNA could be Madeleine McCann's. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:38 | |
The Portuguese had settled on their theory even before | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
they knew the final DNA results. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
Madeleine had died in apartment 5A and her parents had covered it up. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:56 | |
The official PJ report concluded... | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
After he left the police, lead investigator Goncalo Amaral | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
explained his theory in a controversial TV documentary. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:24 | |
It was this documentary - and a book - that led | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
the McCanns to sue Mr Amaral. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
I think people in Portugal prefer to believe that a PJ, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
or a former PJ, is saying the truth. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
It's easier for the Portuguese to believe that the McCanns are lying. | 0:17:54 | 0:18:00 | |
Four months after she disappeared, Madeleine McCann's parents were made | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
official suspects, or arguidos. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:18 | |
Kate and Gerry McCann have both been today declared Arguido | 0:18:18 | 0:18:24 | |
with no bail conditions. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:30 | |
Kate McCann now declined to answer their questions. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
The police offered her a deal. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:37 | |
If she confessed to Madeleine's death, which didn't happen, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
in some sort of accident, which didn't happen, she would get | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
a lesser jail sentence. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
And it wouldn't affect Gerry, he could come back to Britain | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
and keep earning the family's money. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
It was outrageous, it was not true. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
She had answered all of the PJ's questions in at least | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
four interviews, openly, completely collaboratively, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:02 | |
up to that point. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:07 | |
Two days later the McCanns left Portugal. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:13 | |
Gerry, Gerry ? why do you leave now? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
I covered their departure for BBC News. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
What I didn't know was my report would become part of the case. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:25 | |
The McCanns flew from the UK as a five, but came home as a four. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:33 | |
We have played no part in the disappearance | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
of our lovely daughter, Madeleine. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
At the time of Madeleine's disappearance, an Irish family | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
called the Smiths had reported seeing a man carrying a child. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:49 | |
When he saw my TV piece, Martin Smith believed the man he had | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
seen was probably Gerry McCann. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:58 | |
It was the way Gerard McCann turned his head down which was similar | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
to what the individual did on May 3rd 2007 when we met him. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
I would be 60 to 80% sure that it was Gerard McCann that I met | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
that night carrying a child. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:16 | |
The Portuguese had built their case about what happened in apartment 5A. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:22 | |
But it soon came tumbling down. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
Take that sighting by the Smith family. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
It couldn't have been Gerry McCann because so many witnesses place him | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
at the Ocean Club at the same time. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
The Smiths themselves now believe they saw someone else. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:46 | |
Then there's the dogs. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:52 | |
The footage may have looked damning, but it didn't prove anything. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
Well, sniffer dogs are only as reliable | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
as the evidence that's found to corroborate their indications. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
So they'll provide an indication but a sniffer dog cannot talk. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
It's not evidence, there needs to be corroboration. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
And when they came back, the final forensic results didn't | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
back up the barking dogs. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:13 | |
"Weak and incomplete" was the conclusion repeated | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
by forensic scientists. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
Of the 66 forensic samples from the car and apartment 5A, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
none directly matched Madeleine. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
The fact is, Madeleine's parents had that car. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
Madeleine's parents were using that car. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
50% of Madeleine's DNA would have come from each parent so to have | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
some crossover of DNA is not unusual. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:46 | |
And I question the professionalism of anyone who drew a substantive | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
position from that, that that gave them evidence that Madeleine had | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
been in the boot of the car. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
This footage shows how DNA from Madeleine's parents probably | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
ended up in the boot. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
And the car wasn't even hired until 25 days | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
after Madeleine disappeared. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
So the PJ believed the parents had hidden their daughter's | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
body for almost a month. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
Is it plausible that Kate and Gerry McCann ? in the full glare | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
of the world's media ? hid their daughter's body, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
pretended to be looking for her and then, a month later, | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
moved the body? | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
There were cameras with the McCanns on the very day the police suspected | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
they moved their daughter's body. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:45 | |
As these personal pictures show, the McCanns went | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
to Spain to put posters up. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
Would you put it in the window? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
Si, si. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
Would they really have agreed to be filmed if they were secretly trying | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
to dispose of their daughter's body? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:11 | |
How ridiculous does it sound? | 0:23:11 | 0:23:12 | |
It is categorically not true. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
Something happened in that flat, yes, that removed Madeleine from it. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
Did she die? | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
Did two doctors cover up the death of their own | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
daughter whilst on holiday? | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
Of course not. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:25 | |
And it's ridiculous to suggest it. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
The evidence does not stack up. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
The theory was falling apart. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Goncalo Amaral was removed from the case. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:40 | |
He blamed political interference from London. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:47 | |
Mr Amaral's supporters claim that he was taken off the case | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
after an ultimatum from Gordon Brown to the Portuguese PM | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
at a European summit. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
Did Gordon Brown take time out of the negotiations | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
for the Lisbon Treaty to talk to you about Madeleine McCann? | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
No. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
No, of course not. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
That has been suggested. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:09 | |
But it's not true. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
It's not true. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
The lead investigator on the McCann case, Goncalo Amaral, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
he has claimed ? he may have been joking - that his job | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
was the price of Britain signing the Lisbon Treaty. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
What do you make of that? | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
Well, I think he considers himself in a high level. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
But it's not true. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
The Lisbon Treaty with Goncalo Amaral, the head of Goncalo, no, no. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:43 | |
Well, sometimes people like to make some characters of a drama | 0:24:43 | 0:24:50 | |
that they never lived. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:59 | |
In 2008, the Portuguese police shelved the case. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:09 | |
The McCanns were told they were no longer suspects. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:18 | |
It's hard to describe how utterly despairing it was to be named | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
arguido and subsequently portrayed in the media as suspects | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
in our own daughter's abduction. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:33 | |
For ten years the PJ never spoke publicly | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
about their handling of the case. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
That's now changed. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
Do you think it was right to make Kate and Gerry McCann | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
arguidos back then? | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
When we came up with a team to review the case was that, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
at that point, um, the McCann were no suspects to us of any kind | 0:25:53 | 0:25:59 | |
of involvement in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
so that's what I can tell you about it. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
So was it a mistake in 2007? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
I cannot give you an answer on that. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
I repeat it and I'm saying again now, the McCann | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
were no suspects to us. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Do you rule them out of any part of Madeleine McCann's disappearance? | 0:26:14 | 0:26:20 | |
There is no fact at this point or evidence that suggests | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
that they were involved in Madeleine McCann's disappearance. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:32 | |
The McCanns had set up a charity ? the Find Madeleine Fund. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
With the police no longer looking for her, the family now used | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
some of the money to pay for private detectives. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
Even though it's illegal for private detectives to work on active | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
criminal cases in Portugal. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:57 | |
Well, by definition, private detectives detect privately, | 0:26:57 | 0:26:58 | |
and as a result, they would use whatever methods were legal | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
and at their disposal. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
But you can't have a private investigator in Portugal, can you? | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
That's not legal from the off. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
Technically it's not legal, yes, this is another problem. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
Another problem that you couldn't do that there. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
However... | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
They did. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
However, they employed Spanish agencies, Spanish-based agencies | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
who had a cultural and language understanding and connection, | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
and whom the PJ were happy to not turn a blind eye, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
but to work with, as long as they didn't step on their toes. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:34 | |
Private detectives were the only ones now looking for clues. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:40 | |
An agency put people undercover in the Ocean Club, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
used covert surveillance and lie detectors. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
One target was Robert Murat. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
He lived close to apartment 5A and in the days after Madeleine | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
disappeared had helped the police with translation. | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
Like the McCanns, he was later made an official | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
suspect and then cleared. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
What was it like to live through those times where people | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
are scratching around for information and casting | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
aspersions about you? | 0:28:10 | 0:28:15 | |
There's only one word ? devastating. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
Absolutely devastating. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
I was very lucky because I have a very, very, very strong family. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:27 | |
I have a very strong group of friends and they supported me | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
and helped me through it. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
If it had been somebody else that didn't have the support I had, | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
I'm not sure that I'd be here right now. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:45 | |
He believes another team of private detectives followed his mother. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:52 | |
My mother felt like she was being followed by them and she'd seen, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
felt that they were there and she'd seen people that she felt | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
were actually following her. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:00 | |
What did she see? | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
She saw people that she thought were following her, | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
that she kept on seeing. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:09 | |
Through their lawyers, the McCanns told us they were not party to any | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
form of intimidation or targeting. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:19 | |
They also say they didn't know anything about a deal that was put | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
to me by one of their supporters. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
I was offered exclusive access to any new developments | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
in the case ? an inside track on any new breakthrough. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
But there was a price. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
I was expected to act as a spy within the press pack. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:44 | |
I said to you before the interview that the thing that | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
I was going to tell you that I hadn't told you before. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
During that period, I was offered a deal by somebody inside the McCann | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
camp ? not the family. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
They said they would give me access to lines from the enquiry, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
new stories, if I reported back on what the press pack | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
were saying about you. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
Right. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:06 | |
OK. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:07 | |
I mean, I turned them down, obviously. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:08 | |
But what do you think about that? | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
That would make me incredibly angry. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
Again because, again they've taken the focus away from trying to get | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
to the bottom of this, to find out actually what happened. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:24 | |
Trying to put the full focus on somebody else. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:30 | |
And it just, it's incredulous, as I say, it stuns me. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
# If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:47 | |
The effort to find Madeleine McCann was about to shift to the UK. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:53 | |
# Clap your hands together ? one, two, three. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
For the first time, we can show you how the second big | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
investigation into Madeleine's disappearance came about. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
How a national newspaper forced the government | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
to fund an unprecedented Scotland Yard operation. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
And these are my shoes! | 0:31:15 | 0:31:16 | |
Are they new? | 0:31:16 | 0:31:17 | |
Yes. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:18 | |
And what colour are they? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:19 | |
Pink! | 0:31:19 | 0:31:20 | |
Lovely. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
In June 2010, an internal Home Office report had | 0:31:24 | 0:31:29 | |
recommended a UK police review of the Madeleine McCann case. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
But it was ignored for months. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
Jim Gamble wrote the report. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:38 | |
I met with the Home Secretary in the lead-up, the end | 0:31:38 | 0:31:44 | |
of the summer of 2010, with Theresa May, the | 0:31:44 | 0:31:46 | |
new Home Secretary. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:47 | |
It was made clear to me by her and her private secretary | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
at the time that she hadn't have time to review the McCann Report. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
So at that stage I don't believe it had even been read. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:59 | |
Madeleine's family were told by a national newspaper | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
that it would put pressure on the government. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
In May 2011, The Sun serialized a book written by Kate McCann. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:14 | |
The deal raised ?500,000 for the Find Madeleine Fund. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:20 | |
The Sun were able to offer a very wide package of how | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
they would handle it, and part of that was putting | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
an appeal on the front page for Mr Cameron, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
as he was then Prime Minister, to do something about having | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
the Portuguese material properly reviewed and assessed | 0:32:32 | 0:32:33 | |
by Scotland Yard. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
This would be a running request that would have continued | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
to appear in the paper, should a review not take place. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:48 | |
Three sources close to the government decision have told | 0:32:48 | 0:32:53 | |
us that this front page ? and the threat of more to follow - | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
changed everything. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:57 | |
The Sun got what the McCanns wanted. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
The government changed its position. | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
A police review was started. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:10 | |
My opinion is that that report lay gathering dust up | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
to and until there was another letter published in a newspaper | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
on the front page and that resulted in the government responding | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
in public and instantly commissioning something that we'd | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
asked for much, much earlier. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:30 | |
That's not what Theresa May told the Leveson Inquiry into the press. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
I swear by Almighty God that the evidence I shall | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
give shall be the truth, the whole truth and | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
nothing but the truth. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
She said the government had been considering a review before | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
The Sun got involved. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
Did you feel that any pressure was put on you behind the scenes | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
to order this review or not? | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
I felt that the work we were doing to look at this review had been | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
going on for some time, it was coming to fruition | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
around this time anyway, and obviously the issue was a matter | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
of public concern. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:09 | |
Theresa May told Leveson that the work had gone on for some time? | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
So it's just coincidence? | 0:34:12 | 0:34:13 | |
What do you think? | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
Well, I know that whenever I spoke to her in the late summer of 2010 | 0:34:15 | 0:34:19 | |
that it wasn't on the agenda. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
Because I had presented the report to them and I know that, you know, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
she hadn't reflected, reviewed or read it at that time. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:32 | |
However it started, the government was now persuaded. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:39 | |
Madeleine McCann would be a special case. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
And Scotland Yard was asked to help. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
Clearly I was aware that within the media there was a lot | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
of media reports of connections or contacts between newspaper | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
proprietors and senior politicians. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
Frankly, that was all irrelevant to me. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
Why? | 0:34:55 | 0:34:56 | |
Why was it irrelevant? | 0:34:56 | 0:34:57 | |
Because you're getting the request, you're the end of it, if you like. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
Because it wouldn't make the slightest bit | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
of difference to my decision. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
I was always very clear of what my responsibilities were. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
I was the operational lead and any decisions to get involved in this | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
would be an operational decision, not one for politicians. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
Were you comfortable with that chain of events? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
Could you have said, no, we're not getting involved? | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
Yes. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:18 | |
Would you have done that? | 0:35:18 | 0:35:19 | |
If my criteria hadn't been satisfied, yes. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
Are there legitimate lines of enquiry that we, the Met, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
can bring our expertise to? | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
Do we have the background of dealing internationally | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
that other people don't? | 0:35:29 | 0:35:30 | |
Yes. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:31 | |
Is there a precedent? | 0:35:31 | 0:35:32 | |
Yes. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
And is there additional funding for these additional pieces of work? | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
Yes. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:39 | |
Based on all those four things, well, why would I not want to help? | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
The British investigation into the Madeleine McCann | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
case, Operation Grange, was started. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
The first job for the man assembling the team was to assess the parents. | 0:35:55 | 0:36:01 | |
Even on the first glance of what we looked at and when we took | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
the information back and ran it through our own understanding | 0:36:09 | 0:36:14 | |
and verified sightings and accounts and statements and all the rest | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
of it, it was perfectly clear to us that the McCanns themselves had | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
nothing at all to do with the actual disappearance. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
Why? | 0:36:26 | 0:36:27 | |
Because it just... | 0:36:27 | 0:36:28 | |
It was just... | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
It was just obvious from, you know, that everything | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
stacked up that they, you know they were, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
they were where they were when the child went missing. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
Commander Foy chose Andy Redwood to run the investigation. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
He had a full murder squad. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
35 officers and staff. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:53 | |
In 2012, he gave his first interview to Panorama. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
We are here in terms of seeking to bring closure to this case. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
That would be the ultimate objective for us and is our | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
ultimate objective. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:05 | |
What does that mean? | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
Well, closure means establishing what happened to Madeleine McCann. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
Solving it? | 0:37:10 | 0:37:11 | |
Solving it, yes, of course. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:16 | |
We've told you the Portuguese theory, now here's the British. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:21 | |
They thought the answer was in the back streets of Praia da Luz. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
Where the tourists seldom go. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
Scotland Yard have focused on the idea that Madeleine McCann | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
disappeared as part of a burglary that went wrong. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:40 | |
It might have a safe, upmarket image, but Praia da Luz has | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
suffered from low-level crime. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
There had been a spate of burglaries before the McCanns | 0:37:47 | 0:37:54 | |
arrived here in 2007, a mini crime-wave that, it is said, | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
tour operators and hoteliers tried to keep quiet because it would be | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
bad for business. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:06 | |
I was told that there was such concern and alarm amongst hoteliers, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:13 | |
villa owners and companies in the area that they had a meeting | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
with the relevant authorities to discuss what could be done, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
obviously to try and stop it. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
There was, I'm told, concern as well, that it was threatening | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
to damage the tourism industry, the image of the Algarve. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:32 | |
But, of course, Kate and Gerry weren't aware of any | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
of that when they arrived. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
Criminologist Heriberto Janosch provided Scotland Yard | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
with key evidence to support the burglary theory. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:47 | |
Two months and a half before the abduction, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
there were a burglary there. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:50 | |
At the end of this run. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
In the next block. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:53 | |
Yeah. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:54 | |
60 metres from the McCann apartment. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
And 17 days before the abduction, there was a burglary in the second | 0:38:59 | 0:39:05 | |
floor here in the same block that the McCanns. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:11 | |
And one week before the abduction there was another burglary right | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
above Madeleine's apartment. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
Here? | 0:39:16 | 0:39:17 | |
There, yes. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
And the real thing is that in the three cases, the modus | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
operandi of the burglary was the same. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:30 | |
Opening a window from the outside. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
So, burglars were breaking in through windows in the block | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
where the McCanns were staying. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
Remember, the Portuguese police said that couldn't have happened | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
to the McCanns because the shutters didn't open from the outside. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
But they were wrong. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
Mr Janosch has demonstrated that they do. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
They lift the shutters, move the window pane, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
the right hand inside, grab the cord, and lift | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
the shutter in a normal way, without noise and without damage | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
to the window. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:18 | |
Scotland Yard's burglary theory focused on individuals | 0:40:19 | 0:40:20 | |
who lived nearby. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
This is what they thought. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
Three local men were potentially involved in a burglary | 0:40:28 | 0:40:33 | |
here in Luz on the night that Madeleine McCann disappeared. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
And we know their names. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:40 | |
They are Jose da Silva, Ricardo Rodrigues and Paulo Ribeiro. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:48 | |
Scotland Yard were particularly interested in their phone | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
records on the night Madeleine McCann disappeared. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
They show a text and a phone call from Carlos da Silva | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
to Ricardo Rodrigues. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:04 | |
They were around the times parents left the tapas bar | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
to check on their children. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:12 | |
Then, at 21:51, a few minutes before Madeleine is reported missing, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
there's a 58-second phone call between the two. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:22 | |
And in my opinion, it was the right time when Madeleine was abducted. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
You think that's when she was abducted? | 0:41:25 | 0:41:30 | |
Yes, I think that Madeleine was abducted at 21:50, more or less. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
British police thought that text and those calls were significant. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
But many Portuguese detectives thought Scotland Yard | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
were clutching at straws. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:52 | |
TRANSLATION: Listen, they lived in the area. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
If he and I, if we lived in the area and called each other that day, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
that would not make us suspicious. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
Those three individuals talked to each other | 0:42:08 | 0:42:09 | |
because they were friends, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
they knew each other. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
Remember that sighting by the Smith family, the one originally | 0:42:14 | 0:42:20 | |
mistaken for Gerry McCann? | 0:42:20 | 0:42:26 | |
The British police now believed that sighting supported their theory. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:33 | |
Mr Smith and his family were coming home from a night out in Luz | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
centre when at this point, this spot here, they saw a man | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
carrying a child on his shoulder. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
Now this was just before 10 o'clock, about the same time that | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
Madeleine McCann was discovered missing at the Ocean Club | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
which is a few hundred metres in that direction. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:54 | |
The British police thought that could be a burglar carrying | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
away Madeleine McCann. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:57 | |
They issued these e-fits. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:03 | |
Sorry, no comment for you today, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
thank you, good morning. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
Sorry I'm not able to talk to you today. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
DCI Andy Redwood brought his team to Portugal to investigate | 0:43:11 | 0:43:19 | |
the burglary theory. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:20 | |
They spent a week searching an area near where their suspects live. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:25 | |
They were not welcomed by all. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:30 | |
TRANSLATION: What they came to do in Portugal was | 0:43:43 | 0:43:45 | |
a show-off, a joke. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:46 | |
You can't look, seven years later, for the corpse of a little | 0:43:46 | 0:43:49 | |
girl in a sewage pipe through which all of Algarve's | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
rain water had flowed. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
That's because either the sewage pipe would have blown or transported | 0:43:53 | 0:43:56 | |
everything to the sea. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
You don't look for the corpse of a child, seven years later, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
in a field full of herbs and vegetation as if she had | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
just entered that field. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:12 | |
But Scotland Yard pressed ahead and in 2014 issued a formal request | 0:44:12 | 0:44:16 | |
to question the three men. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:19 | |
They were brought in and made official suspects. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
I want to hear their side. | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
First, Carlos da Silva. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:33 | |
He worked as a driver at the Ocean Club. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:37 | |
He was at the heart of this burglary theory. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:40 | |
And was questioned by the Portuguese police on behalf of the British. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:47 | |
And as I understand it, he's just in this supermarket here, | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
so I'm going to try and grab a word with him. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:52 | |
He doesn't want to talk. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:59 | |
So, Mr da Silva was in that supermarket. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:04 | |
And I approached him and asked for an interview, he said no, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:07 | |
he was quite keen not to talk. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
Now he's a man who's not been charged with anything so I've got | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
no right to barrel up and demand an interview. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
I asked him, he made it quite clear he didn't want to talk to me | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
so that's the end of that. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:20 | |
I can't get his side. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:25 | |
All three of the men questioned by Scotland Yard have continued | 0:45:28 | 0:45:34 | |
to live in Luz and under suspicion. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
Ricardo Rodrigues is one of the guys we've been trying to track down. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:41 | |
And we've found out he lives here in this block. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:46 | |
So, I'm just going to knock on his door, see if he'll | 0:45:46 | 0:45:49 | |
have a word with us. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:53 | |
So, we found the address of Mr Rodrigues, it was quite | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
difficult to get that, lots of digging, but we got it, | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
knocked on his door, no response. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:03 | |
Probably out, could have been in there, chose not to talk to us, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
doesn't have to talk to us, we just wanted to get | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
his side, but we can't find him, can't get him. | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
As we're filming, the third suspect turns up and agrees | 0:46:18 | 0:46:21 | |
to talk to our translator. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:28 | |
He doesn't have parents. | 0:46:28 | 0:46:30 | |
Paulo Ribeiro was asked 250 questions by the British police, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
including, "Did you kill Madeleine McCann?" | 0:46:34 | 0:46:37 | |
What did you think when the police asked | 0:47:19 | 0:47:21 | |
you if you were involved in Madeleine McCann's disappearance? | 0:47:21 | 0:47:24 | |
He said they came there with an e-fit. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
The police came with an e-fit and said that somebody had said | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
he looked very similar to the person that was seen walking with a child. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:56 | |
That was the occasion, but that he was amazed by that. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
Paulo Ribeiro and the other two men told British Police | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
they had nothing to do with Madeleine McCann's | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
disappearance. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
And the Portuguese police clearly believed them. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:13 | |
What do you think of that, having seen all of the evidence? | 0:48:19 | 0:48:22 | |
I cannot say what I think. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
I can only say that we questioned those people | 0:48:24 | 0:48:26 | |
on request of the Metropolitan police and only based on the request | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
of the Metropolitan police. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
As I understand it, the PJ didn't ever think that was a viable theory. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:39 | |
We never questioned those people, we never... | 0:48:39 | 0:48:45 | |
we never questioned those people, we never saw or look at those people | 0:48:45 | 0:48:48 | |
as suspects of the crime. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
TRANSLATION: This burglary theory is absurd. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:00 | |
Not even a wallet disappeared, no television disappeared, | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
nothing else disappeared. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:03 | |
A child disappeared. | 0:49:03 | 0:49:05 | |
What did the British tax payer get for their money? | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
Nothing. | 0:49:09 | 0:49:13 | |
Absolutely nothing. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
But that is a problem of yours, the British taxpayer. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
After six years and more than ?11 million, Scotland Yard made | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
an announcement last week. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
They say there's no evidence to implicate the three men | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
who had been suspects for almost three years. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
And the case against them is now closed. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:47 | |
But we've discovered something else. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:53 | |
Scotland Yard also interviewed the man who took the McCanns' | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
booking, the reception manager at the Ocean Club. | 0:49:56 | 0:50:01 | |
He was first interviewed by the Portuguese back in 2007. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:07 | |
So this is the witness statement of Vitor dos Santos, | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
he took the bookings, in fact he took the booking | 0:50:10 | 0:50:12 | |
for the McCann family. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
And he says that he saw the scene of the flat, at 5A, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
and to him it didn't look like there'd been a break in. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:25 | |
Now we've also got hold of this, which is, it's from the PJ files | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
so it's the investigative files and it's a list of the people | 0:50:29 | 0:50:33 | |
who worked at the Ocean Club at the time of Madeleine McCann's | 0:50:33 | 0:50:36 | |
disappearance and he's right down at the bottom here, | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
Vitor Manuel de Jesus Santos. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:41 | |
When you look at the list there's a cross by all of these names | 0:50:41 | 0:50:47 | |
as if they've been ruled out, and then you get down to the bottom | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
and by Vitor Santos there's a question mark. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
That was ten years ago. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:59 | |
I want to know why he was questioned by the British Police. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:04 | |
The first piece of information we got was just a name, | 0:51:05 | 0:51:07 | |
nothing else, Vitor Santos. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
Then we did some digging and we found out that Mr Santos now | 0:51:11 | 0:51:17 | |
makes a living by running tourists around the bays to the east of Luz. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:21 | |
He's moved five miles down the coast and he works | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
in the nearest town, which is Lagos. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
The problem in terms of finding him is there are a lot | 0:51:27 | 0:51:30 | |
of boat operators in Lagos. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:35 | |
We've found him. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
The man who took the booking for the McCann family holiday, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
the man who had the keys to every room. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:44 | |
Is that Vitor? | 0:51:44 | 0:51:46 | |
Yes. | 0:51:46 | 0:51:49 | |
Can I have a word with him? | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
It's the first time he's spoken to the media. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:59 | |
Vito Santos. | 0:51:59 | 0:52:00 | |
Hello, yes. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:01 | |
Pleased to meet you. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:02 | |
Nice to meet you, no problem. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:03 | |
My name is Richard Bilton, I'm a BBC reporter. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:05 | |
Yes. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:06 | |
As you can see. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:07 | |
Can I ask you a couple of questions? | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
Yes. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:10 | |
OK, so did you work at the Ocean Club back in the day? | 0:52:10 | 0:52:13 | |
Yes. | 0:52:13 | 0:52:14 | |
What did you do there? | 0:52:14 | 0:52:16 | |
Why? | 0:52:16 | 0:52:17 | |
Well, I'll tell you why. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
I mean, two reasons. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:21 | |
We're, we're doing a documentary so... | 0:52:21 | 0:52:22 | |
Yes. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
We're looking at those periods and as I understand | 0:52:24 | 0:52:26 | |
it's from the PJ files. | 0:52:26 | 0:52:27 | |
Yes. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:28 | |
You took, you took the booking for the family. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:30 | |
Is that right? | 0:52:30 | 0:52:31 | |
That's right, yes. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:32 | |
Can you tell me about that? | 0:52:32 | 0:52:34 | |
What do you remember about it? | 0:52:34 | 0:52:35 | |
I remember everything, but now I am here because I lost my job. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
Why did you lose your job? | 0:52:38 | 0:52:40 | |
Because the, the main reasons why, why I have the, the proper letter, | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
the McCann was the, I lost the job, that's it. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
Wow. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:50 | |
And the people said it's because the Maddy McCann | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
reasons I lost the job. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:53 | |
And do you remember the McCanns, do you remember | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
the group that they were with? | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
What can you tell us? | 0:52:57 | 0:52:57 | |
Well I don't talk any more about that. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:00 | |
OK. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:01 | |
So, one other thing is, have you spoken to the British police? | 0:53:01 | 0:53:04 | |
Yes. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:05 | |
What did you tell them? | 0:53:05 | 0:53:06 | |
Well, I just make the quest. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:07 | |
I have. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:08 | |
I am here because another reason. | 0:53:08 | 0:53:10 | |
I don't want to speak with you. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:12 | |
I understand. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:13 | |
So have the British police said that they want to talk to you again? | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
No, never more. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:19 | |
The last time was 2014, 2015. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
What did they say to you then? | 0:53:21 | 0:53:28 | |
Make the questions, as usual. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:31 | |
The same questions as uh when the, the girl went missing. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:34 | |
That's it. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:35 | |
Did they ask you whether you had anything to do | 0:53:35 | 0:53:37 | |
with Madeleine McCann's disappearance? | 0:53:37 | 0:53:38 | |
Well, the police asked just | 0:53:38 | 0:53:43 | |
the things about our job, because I was the head | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
of some departments and I, but now I lost the job. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
I have to do this, unfortunately. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
Did you have anything to do with Madeleine | 0:53:51 | 0:53:52 | |
McCann's disappearance? | 0:53:52 | 0:53:53 | |
Me? | 0:53:53 | 0:53:55 | |
Yes. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:56 | |
About what? | 0:53:56 | 0:53:57 | |
Did you do anyth-? | 0:53:57 | 0:53:58 | |
Were you there on the evening? | 0:53:58 | 0:53:59 | |
Did you, do, anything you can help us with? | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
Well I already speak with the police, that's it. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | |
What did you tell them about that night? | 0:54:03 | 0:54:10 | |
Only questions about the timetables and things | 0:54:10 | 0:54:11 | |
like that and the staff because I was the head of the, | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
the reservation and the reception and I speak about, it's | 0:54:14 | 0:54:17 | |
normal questions. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
Mr dos Santos says he had nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:28 | |
As for Operation Grange, it's been scaled back, but it isn't over. | 0:54:33 | 0:54:37 | |
It's got a new head, new money and a new lead. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:42 | |
Police investigating the disappearance of | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
Madeleine McCann in Portugal nearly 10 years ago have been granted more | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
money to extend their inquiry. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
They are to get an extra ?85,000 to continue for another six months. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
We've got some critical lines of inquiry. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
They are of great interest to ourselves and our Portuguese | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
colleagues and there are some significant investigative avenues | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
we are pursuing. | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
It's been reported that the new lead is a woman seen | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
acting suspiciously outside apartment 5A. | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
But former Scotland Yard officers believe the investigation | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
is being wound down. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:24 | |
I remember as a detective superintendent, and also detective | 0:55:24 | 0:55:27 | |
chief superintendent on the murder command, stopping cases | 0:55:27 | 0:55:29 | |
and saying, "There is no more." | 0:55:29 | 0:55:30 | |
We cannot go on. | 0:55:30 | 0:55:32 | |
And I've done that, and that hurts, because as a murder investigator, | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
you want to bring people to justice, but if you don't have the evidence, | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
then you can't do that. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
And it's maybe time that someone said to Kate and Gerry, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
despite everything, we've done everything, but enough is enough, | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
and maybe, you know, in the passage of time, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:51 | |
in years to come, allegiances change, and then we might | 0:55:51 | 0:55:54 | |
find out what happened. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
But at the moment, I think ten years on, it's time | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
to say enough is enough. | 0:56:00 | 0:56:05 | |
The British search for Madeleine McCann only has | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
funding until September, but the Portuguese say | 0:56:08 | 0:56:10 | |
they have no deadline. | 0:56:10 | 0:56:14 | |
As the years roll on, does it become harder to solve? | 0:56:14 | 0:56:20 | |
As in any other case, as the years roll on, | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
it is, it gets harder, that's true in this case. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
You know more about this case than almost anyone else, | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
do you think in your heart it will be solved? | 0:56:29 | 0:56:35 | |
If it depended on my heart, the case would have already been | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
solved but it doesn't depend on my heart, it depends | 0:56:38 | 0:56:40 | |
very much on our minds. | 0:56:40 | 0:56:45 | |
There's never been a case like Madeleine McCann. | 0:56:49 | 0:56:52 | |
It was a huge amount of money, I just look at the human factor. | 0:56:55 | 0:56:59 | |
The human factor is there's still a little girl missing | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
and we don't know why. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
We don't know what happened. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
This week, Madeleine's parents said, even after ten years, | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
they haven't given up hope. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:16 | |
No parent is going to give up on their child unless they know | 0:57:16 | 0:57:19 | |
for certain their child is dead. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:25 | |
We just don't have any evidence, so we've got to... | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
My hope of Madeleine being out there is no less | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
than it was almost 10 years ago. | 0:57:29 | 0:57:34 | |
I mean, apart from those first 48 hours, nothing actually has changed. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:39 | |
I mean, the most difficult thing has been, how will we find her, | 0:57:39 | 0:57:42 | |
you know, because you are relying on the police doing | 0:57:42 | 0:57:44 | |
everything they can. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:46 | |
And you are relying on somebody with information coming forward. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:52 | |
Are we going to post it today? | 0:57:52 | 0:57:54 | |
No. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:55 | |
We are. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
It isn't a letter. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:04 | |
Ten years, two theories, but so far no solution. | 0:58:08 | 0:58:13 | |
The truth about what happened here, what happened to Madeleine McCann, | 0:58:13 | 0:58:17 | |
seems as far away as ever. | 0:58:17 | 0:58:24 |