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do see a good future for UK steel and the Department of International

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Trade looks forward to taking part in a hollow government approach to

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make sure that UK steel is sold the board. Order. Urgent question.

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Yvette Cooper. To of the Home Secretary to make a statement on the

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government 's decision to close the scheme for child refugees. Secretary

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of State. We have pledged over ?2.3 billion in

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aid to the simmering conflict. It is our largest ever humanitarian

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response to a single crisis. The UK has contributed significantly to

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hosting, supporting and protecting the most vulnerable children

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affected by the migration crisis. In the year ending September 2016, we

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granted asylum or another form of leave to over 8000 children. Of the

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4400 individuals resettled through the Syrian vulnerable persons

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resettlement scheme so far, around half our children. Within Europe in

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2016 we transferred over 900 unaccompanied asylum seeking

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children to the UK. This included more than 750 from France as part of

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the UK's support for the Calais camp clearance and I am proud that as

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Home Secretary the UK tape such a key role in the closing of the camp.

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Yesterday the government announced that in accordance with section 67

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of the immigration act we will transfer the specified number of 350

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children pursuant to that section who reasonably meet the intention

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and spirit behind the provision. This number includes over 200

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children already transferred under section 67 from France, and I want

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to be absolutely clear. The scheme is not closed. As required by the

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legislation we have consulted with local authorities on the capacity to

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care for unaccompanied asylum seeking children before arriving at

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the number and we are grateful for the way that local authorities have

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stepped up to provide places for those arriving and we will continue

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to work closely to address capacity needs. The government has always

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been clear that we do not want to incentivise perilous journeys to

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Europe, particularly by the most vulnerable children. That is why

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children must have arrived in Europe before the 20th of March 2016 to be

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eligible under section 67 of the immigration act. The obligation was

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accepted on the fact that it would be based on local authority

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capacity. The government has a clear strategy and we believe it is the

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right approach. We have launched the National transfer scheme and we have

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increased funding for local authorities caring for unaccompanied

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asylum seeking children by between 20 and 20%. The government has taken

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steps to improve an already comprehensive approach and we are

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providing protection to thousands of children and I am proud of this

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government's active approach to helping and sheltering the most

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vulnerable and that is a position that will continue. Yvette Cooper.

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Last week the Prime Minister said, on refugees this government has a

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proud record of support and long may it continue. This week the

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government cancelled the scheme after it had been running for less

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than six months. She says it has a close, but will she confirm what it

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said in the statement yesterday that one so 350 children are here, that

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is it, it is close. Where does it say in the hands of debate that I

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have here from our debates on the amendment that we will only help

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lone child referees to six months? Where does it say that instead of

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the 3000 that Parliament debated, we will only help the tenth of that

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number? Where does it say that when we get the chance we will turn our

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backs? It doesn't because we didn't say that. The Home Secretary knows

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what she is doing is shameful. Not only has she shocked the programme,

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but she has cancelled the fast track Dublin scheme to help those with

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families who are here. The Home Secretary did good work in the

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autumn of last year and I commended her for it, to help those in Calais

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and make sure we could take as many children as possible, but she also

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knows most of those have family here already and they were entitled to be

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here. She said local councils can't do more. They can, but it takes

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time. The scheme should not be closed down and there are still many

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children in need of help. She knows there are thousands in Greece in

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overcrowded accommodation or homeless. Or in Italy, still at risk

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of human trafficking. On teenagers in French centres that are being

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closed down and have nowhere to go now. In Calais, they are heading

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back to the dirt and danger and back into the arms of the abuse,

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prostitution rings, traffickers and modern slavery, that this government

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has pledged to end. We note that France and this government can do

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better. There are a rich array teenagers here now with a better

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future. We can do this. Britain can do better than this. Will she do

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better -- will she accept that and reinstate the scheme? I repeat that

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the amendment in place is not close. We have done what we were meant to

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do and we have put a number on it. She implies it is a business of

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accepting children and it is about numbers. What I will respectfully

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say to her is that these are children who need looking after over

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a period. When we accept them here it is not job done. It is making

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sure we work with local authorities, that we have the right safeguarding

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in place, and that is why we engage with local authorities, why we make

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sure they have sufficient funds, which we have increased, to look

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after those young people. I completely reject her attack. The UK

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has strong reputation in Europe and internationally for looking after

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the most vulnerable. That will continue. We have a different

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approach to wear those most vulnerable are. We believe that they

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are in the region. That is why we have made a pledge to accept 3000

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children from the region and we are committed to delivering on that.

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They are the most vulnerable. I am clear that when working with my

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French counterparts they do not want us to indefinitely continue to

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accept children under the amendment because they specify, and I agree

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with them, that it acts as a draw, it acts as a Paul, it encourages

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people traffickers. I know she doesn't want that, but I would ask

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her to think very carefully about the approaching prefers.

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I am very much aware of the great shortage of resources there are. I

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commend the Home Secretary for the resilience she's showing. Can she

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assure me the Government will remain committed, not only to bringing

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referee children here, where appropriate, but she'll have due

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regard to the children we already have? We are always grateful for the

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work that local authorities do. We must not underestimate the

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difficulty there is sometimes, particularly taking children who

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have been through war zones, the extra work and care that they need,

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which we work with them to ensure they deliver. Of course, he is

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absolutely right. We need to make sure that children within the UK are

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always looked after. Last year I visited a number of referee camps in

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Europe. I meted with the Red Cross volunteers who were saving refugees

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from the sea. And they said to me that the worst thing was the

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children. And I think the worst thing about this Government's

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failure to step up to the totality of the refugee crisis is the

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children. In the written statement yesterday, the minister for state

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for immigration said, all children, not transferred to the UK are in the

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care of the French authorities. They may be technically the

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responsibility of the French authorities, but many of these

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children are not being cared for at all. They are sleeping on the sleep.

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They are sleeping in formal encampmentens and they are making

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their way back to Calais, Dunkirk - can the Secretary of State tell me

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how does a UK plan to screen and process this extra 150 children, for

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which country will the remaining 150 children be transferred from? What

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conversations has been had with the Italian and French Governments

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regarding taking such a small number of children? How does she live with

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herself, leaving thousands of people, and members opposite can

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jeer - how does she live with herself? Leaving thousands of

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children subject to disease, people trafficking, squalor and

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hopelessness? Mr Speaker, I share one thing with The Right Honourable

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lady, that it is the children that matter most and it is an absolutely

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disgraceful situation we have on the borders of Europe where there are so

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many people being trafficked over through to Italy and in the past

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through to Greece in order to meet their desire to come to Europe and

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so often find themselves in the hands of the people traffickers. It

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is because we care in this way that we have put together our plan to

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take refugees from the most vulnerable places. She doubts how

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the children are looked after. The many children who are most

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vulnerable are the ones out in the vulnerable are the ones out in the

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camps out in Jordan, in Lebanon, these are the runs who are really

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vulnerable. These are the ones that we are determined to bring over

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here, to give them the benefit of the safety in the UK. I would also

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say to The Right Honourable lady that I do speak to my European

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counterparts about the best way to address helping these children and

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helping the refugees that are now coming in such numbers to Europe and

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the French are very clear that they are now processing the children who

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have come out of the Calais camp. They want to continue to do. That

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but one of the things that stops the children operating with the French

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authorities is the hope of being taken into the amendment and coming

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to the UK. They are clear with us that if they are to manage those

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children for the best for those children, which I think is what she

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wants, as I want, then making it clear that that is not going to be

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indefinitely open is the best outcome for them.

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I don't doubt the sincerity of the members opposite, but when I was

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chairing the all party group on human trafficking this is a classic

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dilemma we have. And if you continue to take unaccompanied children into

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this country you will have more and more taken from Syria, taken across

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sea routes, many will die and you are feeding and encouraging human

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trafficking. The honourable lady is very sincere but she's is wrong. I

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would urge the Home Secretary to continue to take people from Syria

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but abandon encouraging human trafficking by taking them from

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Europe. I thank my honourable friend for his intervention I know he has

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substantial experience in this area having worked so hard on human

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trafficking. I recognise the point he makes that it is a dilemma. It is

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not always clear what the right strategy is. I would ask honourable

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members opposite to recognise we have an approach, sitcom passionate,

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they do not have a monopoly on that and we can deliver the best and we

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would urge them to support us on that.

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Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, I am struggling to understand exactly

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what the Home Secretary is telling us. She says the scheme is not

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closed. But she seems to have specified a number of 350 and said

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that once the 350 are here, that will be an end of any scheme under

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the section. That must mean that the scheme is closed after 350 children

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get here. Will she clarify that? Will she appreciate if that is the

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case it is completely against the spirit of what was discussed in this

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House. I understand the pool argument, but there are thousands of

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children already in Europe and many of these children are unaccompanied

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and vulnerable. The Lord has described what was done

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yesterday as shabby and deceitful. It seems that the Government tried

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to sneak out what they knew would be an unpopular announcement when they

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were busy looking at the detail of the Brexit deal S this what comes of

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cosying up to President Trump? Well Well, I pecks ected better from the

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honourable and learned lady. She has not listened to the point I have

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made. We believe knit the interests of the children to take this view.

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Instead she casts assertions around. There's no attempt to hide anything.

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I must say, if there had, today might have been the day to put down

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the WMS rather than yesterday. Here I am to answer the urgent question

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and delighted to so to put any clarity on any misunderstanding. In

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terms of the right, the honourable and learned lady's first comment

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about the number, the scheme is still open because we still expect a

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transfer another 150 children. And we have Home Office representatives

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in Greece and in Italy making sure we can do that. But in accordance

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with the regulations as set out we had to put a number on it, having

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consulted with local authorities. That is what we've done.

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Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. I note the Secretary of State says the

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scheme is not closed. I would urge the Secretary of State to respect

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the House when the amendment was voted that it was never expected to

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be closed at any point. Does she agree with me that Britain, does the

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Secretary of State agree that Britain should be leading the way,

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there should be more resources for local authorities? Will the

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Government please reintroduce a minister for refugees, not just

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Syrian refugees to show the importance we give to this 21st

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century problem? I know she cares as I do, as the Government does very

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much about this issue, which is why we have substantial combhiments to

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help children interest the regions to help 20,000 from Syria to come

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over here. We are transferring 100 people. We will continue to step up

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to show the world that the UK is doing the right thing by helping

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these families, helping these children. And I disagree with her on

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one thing and with some honourable ladies and gentlemen opposite, which

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is that I believe that at the time of the amendment it was made

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perfectly clear that the number needed to be set. A number would be

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set and we have stuck absolutely both to the letter and the sprirt of

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that amendment. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Home

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Secretary says she's talked to the French authorities and they want to

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stop the scheme. Well, now there are an average 50 children every single

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day going back to Calais and the camps. What responsibility does the

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Home Secretary recognise that the policy clearly isn't working? What

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does she think will happen to those kids now she's closed the door to

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them? I would ask the honourable lady to consider why they are going

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back to the camps rather than staying in the centres the French

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have taken them to in order to process them. Perhaps it is because

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they think they will continue to be able to move to the UK? Does that

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help them? It does not. What will help those children is if they are,

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if they are processed in France, and can have their claims processed

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there. Rather than going back to Calais, back to the mud. I am sure

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she wouldn't want that, just as I don't.

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I share Jewish ancestry. May I say how distasteful I find it when I

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hear some commentators compare the situation today with that in the

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1930s and the kinner transport. In those days, there was no opportunity

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to go into Germany or the access countries and assist those children

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who faced death in concentration camps. In this situation it is very

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different. And I simply ask my Right Honourable friend condemn those

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commentators, thankfully no-one so far in this House, who do compare

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the situation in the '30s with today.

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Well, my honourable friend makes a very good point. It is not the same.

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Perhaps the one comparison one might make is the cop decisions stiemss of

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the camps -- conditions sometimes of the camps in the region, and there

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where there is a terrible situation, in some of the camps, is where we

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should put all our effort to make sure that we take the children that

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we can from that most vulnerable area.

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Thank you. Tens of thousands of refugees stranded in Greece,

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including hundreds of unaccompanied children are living in appalling

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conditions and face immense suffering. Last year the Government

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only took five children from there and none under D dubs. What will the

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Government do to seek out those who could benefit from the transfers? I

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can tell the honourable gentlemen we do have staff in the region to see

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which children might qualify under the amendment but also to see which

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children might been able to qualify under the Dublin regulations. We are

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looking to make sure we assist the children in Greece and Italy that we

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can. Thank you Mr Speaker. Whilst the

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amendment is one part of the overall strategy on refugees, would my Right

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Honourable friend agree with me that the UK's record on the full strategy

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has been exemplary and our biggest humanitarian contribution in our

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history? My honourable friend is absolutely right. The UK has stepped

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upfy Annan Shali and with sup-- financially and with support for

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refugees. Half of which will be children. He and the rest of the

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country can be proud of the UK's commitment to helping refugees and

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the most vunable. Thank you -- Vulnerable. The Prime Minister never

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misses an opportunity to tell us that she wants to see Britain as an

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out-ward looking player with a global vision. This is an issue

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where she would have the opportunity to demonstrate that this country's

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global vision is about more than just trade deals. Limiting our

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ambition to less than 1% of the desperate children who need to be

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helped is not worthy of that vision. Will the Home Secretary look at the

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way in which she uses the Dublin regulations? There are discretionary

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clauses that could be used more effectively to identify children

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with family links already in the UK. The fact is that until we had an

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accelerated process and really lent in to identify children that

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qualified under the Dublin arrangements into Calais, it was not

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really working. The number of children being transferred under

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Dublin pre--ously were very small. We managed to transfer nearly 600

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under Dublin, the end last year and we will now, I now feel that the

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Home Office and other associations, associated organisations with help

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us deliver, have learnt how to make sure it operates better in the

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future. I am confident that those numbers will improve going forward.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. A two-tire, in fact a multi-tire system in

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response to refugees and asylum seeker is emerging with

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incomprehensible contradictions. In order to live up to the well

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deserved representation that we should be proud for, for those

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fleeing war and persecution who see us as a place of safe haven and do

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our best for the thousands arriving in Europe, desperate but with huge

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potential to offer this country, will she appoint a minister for

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refugees and integration? I have a substantial ministerial

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team and an excellent Immigration Minister. I don't see the need at

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the moment for extra ministers, but I will keep it under review. The UK

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is helping the most vulnerable children in the region and it must

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be the principal focus for us, but we should revise our approach only

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after very careful thought. Can my right honourable friend confirmed

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this announcement follows the career advice of our French friends and

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allies? I can reassure my honourable friend that I work closely with my

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European counterparts and particularly France because it is in

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the camps in northern France that a lot of the young people arrive and

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create this environment that is so difficult for them and difficult for

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the local authorities as well. I will always work closely,

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particularly with the French, to ensure our plans work with them.

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Does the Minister agree that the secret to reform the system in this

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country is a fair dispersal of refugees and asylum seekers? And

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what she looked at the situation where my city is happy, with some

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strains, to take hundreds of asylum seekers every year. There has never

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been any asylum seekers welcome in the constituency of the present

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Prime Minister, the past Prime Minister or the present Chancellor

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of the Exchequer. I am proud that my constituency in Hastings and ride

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does welcome asylum seekers. He is right, we need more constituencies

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welcoming asylum seekers. Under the National transfer scheme which

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allows councils to help other councils where a lot of these

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children arrived, we are encouraging local authorities to step forward on

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a voluntary basis so they can spread the support around. The fact is,

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Kent had over 1000 children who arrived unaccompanied at one point.

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We must do more to spread that out and I would urge members to speak to

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the local authorities to take advantage of that. Those who traffic

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and abuse young children across Europe really do need the modern

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definition of evil people committing evil acts. What are the British

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security services and police, together with our European

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counterparts, doing to track down, arrest and prosecute these

:24:40.:24:44.

perpetrators of evil? My honourable friend raises an important point. He

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is absolutely right. The human trafficking and misery and abuse

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that goes with it is something we will always make sure we combat and

:24:54.:24:58.

I do work closely with my European counterparts to make sure that we

:24:59.:25:02.

share information. Our own National Crime Agency work so that we have

:25:03.:25:07.

serious organised crime groups carefully tracked and we have

:25:08.:25:11.

Europol which works with ours with other European partners to make sure

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we work across Europe to guard against the terrible damage that is

:25:16.:25:22.

done by these people. I think the Home Secretary is a good person, so

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I am not here today to make any personal attack on her, but I want

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to ask her what signal she thinks this sense to the world in the wake

:25:31.:25:34.

of the announcement last week from President Trump in a different

:25:35.:25:40.

context? There are always those who will say, look after our own.

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Charity begins at home. Britain first. America first. French first,

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and so on. Does she really want us to be aligned with that sentiment,

:25:52.:25:57.

or a different one? I would say to the honourable gentleman that we are

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not saying we are closing the door, we are pulling up the drawbridge. We

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are not saying that and I would urge him an honourable members across the

:26:06.:26:09.

whole House not to fall into the trap of suggesting that we are not a

:26:10.:26:14.

country that is welcoming of refugees, we are stepping up to our

:26:15.:26:19.

obligations and supporting the money and with refugee programme is the

:26:20.:26:23.

most vulnerable. I do not recognise the comparison he is making and I

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hope that other members will share in that position. Like several other

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members in this house I saw for myself the conditions in Calais and

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can I thank my right honourable friend for the work she did to

:26:38.:26:41.

transfer children with family in the UK from France to the UK. As she has

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also said, in Kent we look after 1000 unaccompanied asylum seeking

:26:50.:26:52.

children. Does she agree with me that when we welcome front of all

:26:53.:26:56.

children to the UK we must make sure we can give them a genuine welcome,

:26:57.:27:00.

that councils have the resources and capacity to look after them as well

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as the British children in need of care? It is a good point and we are

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fortunate that Kent dustup out because they so often take the brunt

:27:10.:27:13.

and how to take the largest number of unaccompanied children. We do

:27:14.:27:18.

need other councils to engage. We need to spread the responsibility

:27:19.:27:22.

around, but she makes a good point about the need not to feel that this

:27:23.:27:26.

is job done when we take the children in here. We need to have

:27:27.:27:31.

care, time, money, professional support to look after these refugees

:27:32.:27:35.

because they are children, they are here and we will make sure they are

:27:36.:27:40.

looked after. I think the unfortunate remarks of the

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honourable member for Lichfield, is it not the case that it was an act

:27:46.:27:53.

of humanity that he referred to and it is no less now the same as far as

:27:54.:28:01.

children are concerned? I think that people will use their own language,

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Mr Speaker, but it seems clear to me that the most vulnerable place that

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children are that we can help are from the region. We have agreed to

:28:11.:28:15.

take 3000 of those children by 2020. We will be absolutely sticking to

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that. We are also taking about half of the 20,000 coming from Syria by

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2020 and that will be children. We will take as many children as we can

:28:27.:28:33.

under the Dublin arrangement. British charities are working hard

:28:34.:28:37.

on the ground in the Symbian region is helping people. All my right

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honourable friend continued to support the work and continue to

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tackle the people trafficking networks who are exploiting the

:28:45.:28:50.

situation? He is right. British charities and British government is

:28:51.:28:56.

the second-largest bilateral donor in the region. We work hard to make

:28:57.:29:00.

sure part of the support we give does go to help children, help to

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educate children, so we don't have a children that grows up without any

:29:05.:29:07.

schooling. We are very focused on making sure we support the people

:29:08.:29:11.

and children in the region as well as our obligations under refugee

:29:12.:29:17.

arrangements. I'm genuinely struggling to understand how it

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could possibly be in vulnerable loan children's 's interest for us not to

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take more of them in. I don't understand what kind of leadership

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this is. If we have compassion and humanity and the capacity to take in

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more, why are we not doing so? Can I please ask the secretary of State to

:29:39.:29:40.

take the feeling from the house today and think about changing the

:29:41.:29:46.

decision she has made. I respect the honourable lady's views, but they

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are different to the one we take and it's not because of a lack of

:29:50.:29:52.

compassion, it's about trying to work out what is better those

:29:53.:29:57.

children. She has vowed to acknowledge the point that several

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members here have made and I have as well, that if we continue to take

:30:01.:30:04.

numbers of children from European countries, particularly from France,

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it will act as a magnet for the traffic that is. I wonder if she has

:30:09.:30:14.

come across traffickers or children that have been trafficked? The

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terrible crime, the danger done to lives. It is imperative that we take

:30:18.:30:22.

action here to protect those children stop that crime and part of

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our process is focusing on the most vulnerable from the region. We

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should applaud all councils individuals and families who have

:30:35.:30:39.

stepped up to the plate in assisting these honourable children. Camber

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secretary of State clarify whether the capacity of councils across the

:30:43.:30:48.

country to host these children has met, exceeded or disappointed the

:30:49.:30:53.

government's expectations? My honourable friend is right. The part

:30:54.:30:57.

of the proposal was to make sure the local authorities can support these

:30:58.:31:00.

children. We need to make sure that when the children arrive there is

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not a feeling of job done, rather they are supported to make sure they

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have a good life here as well. We consulted with them, they come up

:31:13.:31:16.

with a number of 400, but I'd like to remind the house that that is not

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the total number that councils take in. We have an average of 3000

:31:21.:31:29.

unaccompanied minors arriving in addition to that, councils

:31:30.:31:32.

generously stepped forward to support them and we should thank

:31:33.:31:38.

them for that. I am surprised the Home Secretary didn't understand the

:31:39.:31:41.

depth of feeling in the house make a statement to the house on base

:31:42.:31:45.

rather than putting it into a written ministerial statement

:31:46.:31:47.

yesterday, but I wanted to say to her I am struggling to understand

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how it is if you put a cap on the scheme of 350, that is not closing

:31:53.:31:58.

the scheme? Perhaps the Home Secretary can explain that one more

:31:59.:32:04.

time? In the act we were required by a date which is fast approaching to

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name a number, having consulted with the local councils. We have now done

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that. It remains at 150 transferred. At some point it will close, but it

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is not closed yet because we still need to transfer 150 under the

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amendment. My right honourable friend has already pointed out that

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disparity there is in terms of dispersal of these honourable long

:32:31.:32:36.

-- young children. What more can she do to ensure the children are

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received across the country in a variety of local authorities said

:32:41.:32:43.

they can have the opportunity of a life that we all want them to have?

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A good question and I can say we have worked closely with local

:32:50.:32:54.

authorities. People in my department have gone out, made presentations

:32:55.:32:58.

across the country. We have had over 400 people attend them. We are

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making sure local authorities are able to step up by making sure they

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have sufficient support each if the young people, but can also see it as

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something that represents the right thing to do when we are experiencing

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so many problems from the region and refugees arriving here. So we are

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working closely with local authorities on persuasion bases and

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urging them to participate and the sign is more of them are stepping

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up. When I spend time with my young niece and nephew I wonder what will

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happen to them if they were in similar circumstances and I hope and

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pray they will find a country of compassion and safety and that's

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what we want for all young children across the world. However, can be

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Home Secretary tell us what discussions she and her department

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had with Lord Dubs and charities before making the decision? My

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department meets regularly with children's charities and Lord Dubs.

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When the former Prime Minister announced that Britain would take

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20,000 Syrian refugees, West Yorkshire led the way in laying out

:34:11.:34:27.

the scheme. -- West Oxfordshire. Whilst it is necessary that we take

:34:28.:34:32.

in as many children that we can, it is important to ensure councils have

:34:33.:34:36.

the capacity to help these families because we are constrained, not by

:34:37.:34:40.

money, but by things like the availability of translators. It is a

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helpful point from my honourable friend. The fact is we want to make

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sure that the refugees who arrived here, children, families, adults,

:34:52.:34:56.

are looked after in the best tradition of the UK. I'm delighted

:34:57.:35:00.

to hear of his personal involvement and I have heard some fantastic

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stories about local churches, local charities stepping up and making

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sure that sometimes these frightened families are really well looked

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after. I think we see sometimes, Mr Speaker, the really -- the best of

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British families. We have been told that the scheme won't be close, just

:35:23.:35:27.

capped. It seems that hearts are close. Is it not the case that what

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we are being treated to is calculated in different just up as a

:35:36.:35:39.

measure commitment. Will the government do more in both respect

:35:40.:35:47.

of Dubs and Dublin? It's disappointing that the honourable

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gentleman has clearly not heard a word I have said. The efforts of the

:35:52.:35:56.

UK has gone through, the generosity from local authorities, the

:35:57.:36:05.

International aid budget. This country is stepping up to its

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responsibilities. Having been to a refugee camp on the Iraq border, I

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am proud of Britain's because of response to a humanitarian crisis.

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If communities and councils want to continue and take more vulnerable

:36:25.:36:28.

young refugees in the future, will they be welcome to do so? We always

:36:29.:36:34.

welcome initiatives from local councils to make sure we do look

:36:35.:36:37.

after the refugees and the children who come over here and I would urge

:36:38.:36:41.

any local authorities who think they can do more to get in touch with the

:36:42.:36:45.

national transfer scheme to make sure they can support the councils

:36:46.:36:49.

who sometimes having to have too many children in the area and long

:36:50.:36:56.

for additional support. All French centres are closing and today in

:36:57.:37:00.

this freezing weather there are children in Dunkirk with families in

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this country who were hoping to be considered. Will then needs be

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assessed if the Dubs scheme is not closed and if not, what she expect

:37:11.:37:15.

what happened to them? The French have transferred the young people

:37:16.:37:18.

and indeed all the people from the Calais camp to centres where they

:37:19.:37:24.

were given beds and food so the applications for asylum could be

:37:25.:37:28.

considered. She is right that there are some camps now beginning to form

:37:29.:37:32.

in northern France and I am in constant touch with my French

:37:33.:37:35.

counterparts. We are helping them with money, support to make sure

:37:36.:37:44.

another camp does not emerge. The French have a responsibility for the

:37:45.:37:48.

people the to allow them to apply for asylum in France where they

:37:49.:37:52.

should do that. We will continue to monitor where we can help and we

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will continue to act on Dublin arrangements.

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There will always be some who say charity begins at home. He is right.

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The important thing is that charity does not stop at home. It never has

:38:09.:38:13.

in this country and never will be. Which is why I applaud the comments

:38:14.:38:17.

made which the Home Secretary, recognising the work being done and

:38:18.:38:22.

will go on being done to help children and refugees from Syria in

:38:23.:38:30.

general. I thank Gloucestershire County Council and today there have

:38:31.:38:34.

been some very personal comments made, which I regret from the

:38:35.:38:38.

honourable member about the Home Secretary. Surely it is time all

:38:39.:38:42.

members of this House realise whatever our differences of opinion

:38:43.:38:45.

about the right way forward, everybody and particularly ministers

:38:46.:38:48.

in the department responsible start from the same position of wanting to

:38:49.:38:53.

do the best thing. Well, I thank my honourable friend

:38:54.:38:58.

for his comments and of course it is disappointing when people don't

:38:59.:39:03.

recognise that we are both sharing an ambition of compassion but we

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have a different strategy for delivering on that.

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Thank you Mr Speaker. I have to say to the Home Secretary, I think many

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in this House have listened to what she said with total disbelief. We

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cannot understand, given the intensity of the decision kugs and

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debate -- discussion and debate around an amendment made by this

:39:28.:39:31.

House that the Home Secretary has come forward with a closure of that

:39:32.:39:35.

scheme. A number well below what any of us would have expected. Does she

:39:36.:39:40.

not agree where me that the reality will be that many children across

:39:41.:39:45.

Europe, in desperate need l be left with no hope? No. I do not agree

:39:46.:39:52.

with him. We have communicated to the French, to other Europe pine

:39:53.:39:57.

countries what our plan is. And we have discussed with them what is the

:39:58.:40:01.

best for these children as well I think he fails to understand, he

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fails to listen, as so many members have, to the points I am making

:40:06.:40:10.

about how these children are made vulnerable and what is in their best

:40:11.:40:15.

interest. I respectfully ask him to reconsider that very high moral tone

:40:16.:40:19.

that he is taking. We are doing what we believe is best for those

:40:20.:40:25.

children. He may not agree with it. The honourable lady may say you are

:40:26.:40:29.

not, you are not. But we are doing what we believe is best. I recognise

:40:30.:40:33.

he has a different position. I ask him to reconsider his language. The

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THE SPEAKER: The capacity of the honourable laider to chunter is not

:40:42.:40:46.

in doubt. But she should desist. I politely say to her as she's a

:40:47.:40:51.

supporter of West Ham and, well, anyway, she represents, well, I'm

:40:52.:40:56.

glad she's an Arsenal supporter, but she represents... She still

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shouldn't Chunter. What she could do is blow some bubbles and find it is

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therapeutic! We have consulted local authorities on capacity. It is clear

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there is the capacity to support the children we intend to take from

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Calais as well as continuing to meet our other commitments. I find it

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unbelievable that councils would only be willing to take an average

:41:24.:41:28.

of two children each. Can I ask the Home Secretary, as I asked all local

:41:29.:41:33.

authorities individually, how many children they could take? Did the

:41:34.:41:38.

Home Office suggest numbers to each of them? No, Mr Speaker. We did not

:41:39.:41:43.

suggest numbers to the councils. We set out for them what the challenges

:41:44.:41:47.

were. What our payments were, which had been increased by 20% on one

:41:48.:41:53.

scale and 28% on another. So, under 16s were to get ?41,000 of support a

:41:54.:42:00.

year. Over 16s, ?33,000. We urge councils and we work with them and

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we did presentations around the country and they came back to us

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with this proposed number. I repeat, accepting the children is one thing,

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having the capacity and indeed the confidence to look after them is

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what we urge local authorities to think about. And can I say I would

:42:16.:42:19.

like to share particular thanks to the Scottish authorities, who did so

:42:20.:42:25.

much to accept particularly the vunlable young women who were moved

:42:26.:42:29.

from Calais. And they are now making their life in Scotland and we are

:42:30.:42:34.

very grateful for that. Contrary to what the Secretary of

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State seems to believe civil society in my constituency and I am sure

:42:39.:42:42.

many others are to help the children. I visited St Christopher's

:42:43.:42:49.

fellowship which took in 30 of the children last year and refugees

:42:50.:42:52.

welcome which sources accommodation for refugees. They want to do their

:42:53.:42:58.

bit. Why want her Government? Well, we are very grateful for the work

:42:59.:43:02.

that Hammersmith has done. I would urge them to consider taking

:43:03.:43:07.

children who are just as vulnerable from the national transfer scheme.

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It is not just from Calais but from the national transfer who need help.

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I would urge him to that that conversation as well.

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The closure of the scheme will affect the most vulnerable refugees

:43:23.:43:29.

who have been per cent suited -- persecuted, 90% of who are. Many who

:43:30.:43:36.

have been in the United Kingdom. Given the UK's role in Iraq over the

:43:37.:43:41.

last decade, is this where our legacy of aiding and assisting Iraqi

:43:42.:43:47.

citizens ends? Well, the UK position on aiding refugees from the region,

:43:48.:43:50.

which is what I think he's asking about, is very strong and it is

:43:51.:43:54.

added to by the fact that we have one of the largest aid donation

:43:55.:44:00.

plans in the world, that our point seven commitment and the ?2.3

:44:01.:44:06.

billion that goes into the region. I think he should join me in being

:44:07.:44:11.

proud of the commitment, the financial support we give to the

:44:12.:44:15.

region to make sure we do look after the vulnerable people. I think seen

:44:16.:44:22.

at first-hand the work my local community has done to assist

:44:23.:44:25.

refugees. But what sort of moral and political lead does she think the

:44:26.:44:32.

Government is giving by only doing the bear minimum under the scheme I

:44:33.:44:38.

identify what the Government and -- I wouldn't identify it as the bare

:44:39.:44:44.

minimum. We are taking 20,000 vulnerable citizens by 2020. And we

:44:45.:44:48.

are making sure that we give them thefy than shall support that they

:44:49.:44:54.

need. I don't recognise the honourable gentleman's

:44:55.:44:57.

characterisation. Thank you, Mr Speaker. As others have already

:44:58.:45:02.

said, the Home Secretary says the scheme is not closed, but the UK

:45:03.:45:07.

needs to send out a strong message against the pool factor. Both these

:45:08.:45:10.

statements can not be correct. She says she's working with the

:45:11.:45:14.

intention of the dubs scheme. If that is the case, can she confirm

:45:15.:45:20.

what she's doing to confirm council authorities to take in more

:45:21.:45:24.

children, rather than hide behind the excuse that ka passty is already

:45:25.:45:28.

reached -- capacity is already reached? There is no hiding. We have

:45:29.:45:33.

another 150 children who will be transferred over the next period

:45:34.:45:37.

under the Dubs agreement. We are working closely with local

:45:38.:45:40.

authorities to ensure they have the support for the children that they

:45:41.:45:43.

have said they will take. I would add that we already have

:45:44.:45:48.

approximately 3,000 children unaccompanied who arrive a year,

:45:49.:45:52.

which in addition to the Dubs commitment, local authorities work

:45:53.:45:56.

with us, through the national transfer scheme, to ensure they look

:45:57.:46:00.

after. What assessment has been made of the

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numbers of children in Greece and Italy, many of whom were working

:46:05.:46:08.

with charities that belief they would be eligible for the Dubs

:46:09.:46:11.

commitment? How many of these children will now not be eligible? I

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cannot answer how many children will or won't belible until those

:46:18.:46:22.

assessments have been made. I can say that having accepted 200

:46:23.:46:26.

children under the Dubs amendment, there'll be another 150. And in

:46:27.:46:28.

addition to that, we will continue to assess the children to see if

:46:29.:46:37.

they arelible for the -- are eligible for the Dubs arrangements.

:46:38.:46:41.

Talk of numbers, was surely the message is whether a children is

:46:42.:46:48.

vulnerable. On the bigger picture I have visited seven refugee camps. I

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want to ask this, there a east a disparity between poor standards and

:46:56.:46:59.

high standards and the Government seem to do inning to help these

:47:00.:47:04.

people. One camp is of a very high standard and provides good

:47:05.:47:07.

education. Some of the other camps are exceedingly poor. What is she

:47:08.:47:11.

doing and her Government to sort out the people living in these camps and

:47:12.:47:17.

to help this problem? Well, we do work closely with the organisations

:47:18.:47:20.

that run some of these camps. I absolutely recognise that they are

:47:21.:47:25.

of a different standard, but the UK is stepping up with financial

:47:26.:47:29.

commitment of ?2.3 billion to make sure that we do help make those

:47:30.:47:34.

camps somewhere where families can exist, where children the be taught.

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So I want the honourable gentleman to be in no doubt, we do lean in to

:47:39.:47:45.

make sure we acyst in the vast movement of people taking place --

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we do assist in the vast movement of people taking place in the region.

:47:50.:47:56.

My understanding as chair of the all party group for disability is the

:47:57.:48:00.

most vulnerable children, including those with dacts are to be

:48:01.:48:05.

prioritised. What number of children can disabilities have arrived? What

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are the arrangements for vulnerable children who are left behind? I do

:48:10.:48:15.

say to the honourable lady, that particularly in the clearance of the

:48:16.:48:20.

Calais camp we were determined to prioritise the most vulnerable,

:48:21.:48:24.

which is why we moved to remove a lot of the girls and young women who

:48:25.:48:29.

we believed and the evidence suggested were most vulnerable to

:48:30.:48:34.

being trafficked. We do prioritise the young people who are more likely

:48:35.:48:38.

to be vulnerable. In terms of the numbers on the actual amount of

:48:39.:48:41.

disabled people transferred, I don't have that information. I will

:48:42.:48:45.

endeavour to have it and come back to her. I know of just one Christian

:48:46.:48:52.

charity in London housing over 30 children, which appears to be 10% of

:48:53.:48:56.

the entire national effort. Many faith communities are willing to

:48:57.:48:59.

step up to what we would like the Government to do themselves. If they

:49:00.:49:02.

want to do more, will the Home Secretary let them? There is still

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plenty of need for support from community organisations like

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churches. I have met with several as well that are doing their bit to

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welcome families to look after children. I would urge the

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honourable gentleman to get in touch through the national transfer scheme

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or through my office and we will work loosely to ensure any community

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groups which think they can support families or children are able to do

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so. I am glad to hear there's going to

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be another 150 children coming to the UK under this scheme before it

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closes. But can the Secretary of State tell the House, is she able to

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look the 150 first child in the -- 150th child in the eye and say, no?

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I wonder how the lady would feel about the children from the region?

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The children in the camps - they are not in France, not in Italy, they

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are the ones in the camps, where the conditions are much, much worse. How

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would she feel about looking them in the eye?

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Is this not a shameful betrayal, not just of the thousands of children

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being secured a future but the tens of thousands of constituents who

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signed letters in support of the Dubs amendment. No-one is suggesting

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this country is not welcoming of refugees, but it increasingly

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appears the Government isn't. I would urge the honourable gentleman

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perhaps to correct any misunderstandings that anybody has

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got. The fact is, we have stuck to the agreement in the Dubs agreement.

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We were obliged to put out a number, having consulted with local

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authorities. Perhaps he would consider putting out a message to

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constituents so they are clear that the Government is stepping up to

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commitments. Is taking 2000 by 20 -- 20,000 by 2020. We are proud of our

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response. Mr Speaker, last week I met with a tech company, whose staff

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volunteered to create a digital classroom project for 150 children

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at a camp in Dunkirk. These children are stuck there. Why is it that

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everybody in this country seems to be willing to do something to help,

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organisations, companies, individuals, what signal does it

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send out that the Government is not meeting its commitments The

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honourable lady should be clear the Government is meeting its

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commitments. And it is exceeding them. In terms of the aid that we

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give to the region of ?2.3 billion. In terms of making sure we bring

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over from the region the most vulnerable. 20,000 by 2020. Most of

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all, most of all, making sure that the children who arrive here are

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looked after. They are given the support, they are often from

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vulnerable areas and we ensure that the local authorities have that. We

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should be proud of our response. Before we proceed to business

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question, I would like to congreat late the member from new port West

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on his 82nd birthday and on reaching the mid-point of his parliamentary

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career. Business

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