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is still too close to call. Now on BBC News, Reporters. Welcome to the

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special edition of Reporters, I am Lucy Hocking 's, in Edinburgh. As

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Scotland prepares to vote in a historic referendum about whether to

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break away from the UK, we have a special series of reports for you

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from our global network correspondence on the challenges

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which lie ahead. Coming up: a thirst for change. Alan Little reports from

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a place is famous for its single malt whiskey on how both sides of

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the debate are keen for reform. Yes, there has been national flag waving.

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extraordinary and energetic debate which has energised

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part of the country. David Grossman canvasses

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border on how Scotland's neighbours see the debate. If we were a

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separate, foreign country, different states, with that bother you? They

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would just do what they want to do anyway, wouldn't they? We report on

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how the yes and no campaigns are trying to woo the nation's biggest

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ethnic minority. Everyone will have their own opinion. The story of

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Scotland's historic failure to build its own empire 300 years ago in

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Paraguay. And the old alliance, Hugh Schofield investigates how Scottish

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ties with France mean more than just a love of haggis. There is clearly

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deep sympathy for the Scots, not just here but right across France.

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To be or not to be independent, that is the Scottish question. And soon

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the 5 million people in Scotland will vote in a historic referendum

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to decide whether to break away from the UK and become and an independent

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nation. It is a deceptively simple question which has been so divisive,

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of course, dividing not only the nation but splitting family and

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friends. Our correspondent went to an island famous for its single malt

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whiskeys, where there is a thirst for change. Just 90,000 people live

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in Bute, but it has a coastline longer than that of France. There

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are so few people in Scotland that it has a population density just 1/7

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that of England and Wales. Pro`independence campaigner say that

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makes it a different kind of country with different political challenges

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and needs. The hotelier David Graham leaves his guests in no doubt about

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his allegiance. For him independent is about making government more

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accountable. We still feel distant from Westminster. Westminster still

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control a lot of the key levers which could make such a difference

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to Scotland as an independent country. I personally feel that the

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politicians closer to home can be more answerable to the demands of

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the people. The independence debate reaches into every community. The

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level of engagement is unprecedented. The annual Isla

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agricultural show brings the area together. Mines are being made up in

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places like this in lengthy conversations with friends and

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neighbours. I can just see chaos. What is the point of saying you want

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to be separate, but meantime all we get is a list of the things that we

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don't want to lose? It must be nice to be either one or the other and so

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choose what you want to do. I keep getting pulled back and forth. I

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think it is great. I think it is that we will be able to take this

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step won't be easy, it will probably be

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very hard and Neither side now is backing the

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status passionate no campaigners, like the

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local postmaster, also want change. Centralisation to a centre of zest

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technocracy in Edinburgh has not helped us on the islands. The best

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way to achieve devolution is not just devolution to Edinburgh, but

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from Edinburgh, more local devolution, and the National 's have

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a terrible track record on this. In a place like this you see something

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very important about the nature of this whole debate. It is not just

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about the national about power, about where it should

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properly centre more accountable to people

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who been national flag waving, but this

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is also people in every part of the country,

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and groups of friends, about the nature of democracy

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itself, and how to make it that. pace of that debate has now

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accelerated fast. Both sides now say they want change, and the decision,

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changed in or out of the UK, is now just days away. But what about those

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people across the border in England, who care passionately about the

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independence debate here but don't get to vote. Our correspondent has

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been to a town on the border between England and Scotland to find out

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more. Obviously the debate about Scottish independence is mainly

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focused on the people who live behind me, in Scotland. But what of

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the other participants in this 300 `year`old marriage? What does it

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mean for the people who lived over their? `` live over there? For 200

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years the people in this community have witnessed a changing world and

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the changing UK. For the entirety of this campaign there has been an

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border that voters here don't need to really

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is going on over there. After all, the polls suggest that independence

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defeated. Now however some polls suggest a different picture. So what

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do voters over here think now. Barry and Nancy Smith are on

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Staffordshire. Changing polls worry them. We go to Scotland quite

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regularly, I think this is the third or fourth time in the last few

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years. We love going north of the border. But it doesn't feel like we

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are going abroad. Maybe in future it will do. As an English person I am

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sort of feeling that we are the British Isles, and we are better

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together. We are better together than going our separate

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ways, a thick we can be stronger and are stronger together. Most people

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who live here identify themselves first of all as Berrickers, as

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opposed to Scottish or English. Things would change, but perhaps not

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culturally, I think there would still be cross`border link ``

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Berwickers. Berlot might depend exactly what Scottish independence

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looks like. Walking through Berwick, you get a sense of a town

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which looks in both directions. What would it mean for you as a West

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Highland terrier, do you think? Anything in particular? WOOF! If

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Scotland were another country, a separate foreign country, a

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different state, would that bother you? No. They were just do what they

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want to do anyway. This bridge spans written's life is a great power.

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Opened just after the Battle of Waterloo, it stood throughout the

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golden age of British identity. It may begin an era ratcheted by border

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posts, the union gone, the chain broken. 3% of people in Scotland

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identify as Asian, making them the largest ethnic group. Our

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correspondent went to a Sikh temple in Glasgow. The women here are

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preparing over 2000 chapati, with help or hindrance from me. This is a

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place of prayer, not politics. But still the referendum comes up in

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conversation. Everyone is different. Everyone has their own

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opinion. I am told that for all the Sikhs, very serious in India

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influences their vote. There were separate states, and we lost the

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lot. This might have negative connotations for them in terms of

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their voting. Do they want a separate or stay as one United

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Kingdom? There are others who see a new future in an independent

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Scotland. Chandeep Singh is from an independent family. It is about

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smashing the grass ceiling `` glass ceiling at every level. They use the

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language which is all about trying to put Scotland on the world stage.

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And I think that is kind of way I see a lot of what I am trying to

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achieve. In the streets of this town, it seemed yet Scotland have

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been making their presence felt. This woman from Muslim Friends of

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Labour was voting no but has changed her mind. She says business voters

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in particular are listening. If we are independent we have the ability

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to say what taxes we want, and we can

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effectively, aiding small businesses, predominantly the

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Scottish Asian community what this. The idea of a shared history

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resonates with the Asian vote. They see the UK as a place where they

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have been given opportunities. My father talks a lot about what it was

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like when he the opportunity to give his daughter

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's education. representation of that opportunity.

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Evra has their own reasons for voting yes or no. The Asian

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population has `` is no The implications of this referendum

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are being watched all around the world, even in Quebec which has had

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two referendum campaigns themselves in which both times they decided to

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stay with in Canada. Nick Bryant has been to Quebec City. A parade

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through the streets retelling the story of the settlement of what was

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then called New France. The province has retained its brand of foam

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character although it never achieved independence. The festival organiser

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explains the dilemma. He sees himself as a Quebec residents burst

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and a Canadian second `` resident first. Will be still have the

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Canadian dollar? Will be still trade with our neighbours? Will it be that

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easy to trade with the other Canadian provinces? How would the

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other Americans consider us? Those are big concerns for parts of the

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population. In a decades long struggle, Divac has dealt with

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losing two referendums, in one case coming within 1% of separation. The

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lesson for Scotland is that independence is a multiphase

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affair. It is unbelievable. They just got a new parliament in 1997

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and now they are having a referendum to be a free country. If it won't

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work this time, it's Mike's next time. `` it might. Quebec has

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achieved a great deal of autonomy but for Scotland, the separatist

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spirit has been dampened. The last referendum was almost 20 years ago

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in Quebec but the wish for separation hasn't run away. In

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Canada, Baycol at never ending referendum `` they call it. For all

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of Quebec's distinctive culture, there is no appetite for a third

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referendum. Many feel that the culture of this province has not yet

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reached its pinnacle. It is widely acknowledged that Scotland became

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much more keen to join England years ago after the catastrophic failure

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of their own attempts to build an empire. This scheme was to take over

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part as Paraguay known as Darien. It almost bankrupted Scotland and led

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to the phrase, if you can't beat them, join them. This attempt at

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settling brought ruin to the Scots. The Anglo Scottish union that is now

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being challenged has its origins here in Darien in Panama. When a

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nation rethinks its future as Scotland now does, it also

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re`examines its past. Scotland is rethinking the lessons of what is

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still known as the Darien Disaster. Documents tell the story of an

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attempt by Scottish merchants to found a trading colony which they

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were going to call Caledonia and its capital city New Edinburgh. Here is

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the Constitution of Caledonia in America. Here is how they wanted

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their economy to be run. Everything from judiciary to have disputes

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would be settled. Not just a new colony but a new country. All of

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these things about beginning. How do you begin a country? It was

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fantastically ambitious. Very. There would be two major expeditions to

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Panama carrying 3000 settlers between them. The first embarked in

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a mood of national euphoria. They set sail on the 14th of July 1698.

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The Hull City came down to see the colonists depart `` entire city.

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This was an adventure that everyone wanted to be part of. The colonists

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bought themselves the luckiest Scotsman alive. They had no idea

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that they were sailing into personal and national catastrophe. There it

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is. Scottish harbour and when the hole in his came here after four

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grueling months at sea, they found themselves surrounded by fertile

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land not occupied by any European party and they thought this would

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have had great implications. What they didn't know is that it rains

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here for most of the year and that nothing ever dries out. It was the

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amazing fertility of this place that brought the Scots here in the first

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place. One of the colonisers wrote that the back `` asked breaking work

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of breaking down the jungle was futile as it grew back after only a

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month. They had to fight against disease like malaria and yellow

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fever. Somewhere in this tangle is Scottish cemetery with hundreds of

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graves. No one has ever found it stop nine months after the first

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fleet set sail, two thirds of the colonists were dead. We went to the

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place they named New Edinburgh. It is still named that on some maps.

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Nothing survives of that capital city. Descendents of the Indians

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that they try to defend and no one more. It was the goal of the English

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that was to cause lasting bitterness in Scotland. In London, the king

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ordered colonies not to trade with Caledonia. To deny all assistance to

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the colonists. He was placed in a difficult position because English

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trading interests were very much against the Scottish competition.

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The realities were that he was going to side where the power and money

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was. Orders were sent to English plantations saying that they were

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not allowed to supply the Scots with extra provisions. They were trying

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to starve them out. Scotland's Imperial ambitions in Canada were

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defeated by disease and starvation `` Panama. Under the treaty with

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England, England agreed to pay a sum of money to the investors which was

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known as the equivalent of the price of Scotland. The referendum debate

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has been closely followed by Britain's European allies and no

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country more so than France. They have a union that goes back to the

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13th century. How has that shaped French attitudes Scottish

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independence? What are Scottish pipe band 's doing parading in July

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through and after central Frenchtown? They have annual

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festivities to mark the old alliance in this small town. Warriors from

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one Scottish family fought alongside the French against the English and

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were rewarded with lordships and a chateau which stayed Scottish were

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nearly 400 years. Enthusiasm for things Caledonia and here extends to

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the culinary. This is French haggis. The bond is felt. It is a

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question of blood. They bled for us and French people bled for

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Scotland. What else? Whether it is the old alliance and their common

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antipathy towards the English or whether it is just that both

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countries like to share a drink, there is clearly deep sympathy for

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the Scots, not just in here that right across France. We carried out

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an impromptu poll with the audience about Scottish independence and the

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result was clear enough. The old alliance has left its traces. The

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French instinctively like the Scots but Scottish independence? It is not

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really their fight. That is all from this special edition of Reporters

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with just days to go until Scotland decides. Goodbye for now.

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Mixed fortunes up and down the UK as we look ahead through the coming

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week. There will

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