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is still too close to call. Now on BBC News, Reporters. Welcome to the | :00:00. | :00:23. | |
special edition of Reporters, I am Lucy Hocking 's, in Edinburgh. As | :00:24. | :00:29. | |
Scotland prepares to vote in a historic referendum about whether to | :00:30. | :00:31. | |
break away from the UK, we have a special series of reports for you | :00:32. | :00:37. | |
from our global network correspondence on the challenges | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
which lie ahead. Coming up: a thirst for change. Alan Little reports from | :00:43. | :00:49. | |
a place is famous for its single malt whiskey on how both sides of | :00:50. | :00:57. | |
the debate are keen for reform. Yes, there has been national flag waving. | :00:58. | :01:01. | |
extraordinary and energetic debate which has energised | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
part of the country. David Grossman canvasses | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
border on how Scotland's neighbours see the debate. If we were a | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
separate, foreign country, different states, with that bother you? They | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
would just do what they want to do anyway, wouldn't they? We report on | :01:20. | :01:22. | |
how the yes and no campaigns are trying to woo the nation's biggest | :01:23. | :01:31. | |
ethnic minority. Everyone will have their own opinion. The story of | :01:32. | :01:37. | |
Scotland's historic failure to build its own empire 300 years ago in | :01:38. | :01:43. | |
Paraguay. And the old alliance, Hugh Schofield investigates how Scottish | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
ties with France mean more than just a love of haggis. There is clearly | :01:49. | :01:54. | |
deep sympathy for the Scots, not just here but right across France. | :01:55. | :01:59. | |
To be or not to be independent, that is the Scottish question. And soon | :02:00. | :02:06. | |
the 5 million people in Scotland will vote in a historic referendum | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
to decide whether to break away from the UK and become and an independent | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
nation. It is a deceptively simple question which has been so divisive, | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
of course, dividing not only the nation but splitting family and | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
friends. Our correspondent went to an island famous for its single malt | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
whiskeys, where there is a thirst for change. Just 90,000 people live | :02:29. | :02:37. | |
in Bute, but it has a coastline longer than that of France. There | :02:38. | :02:42. | |
are so few people in Scotland that it has a population density just 1/7 | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
that of England and Wales. Pro`independence campaigner say that | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
makes it a different kind of country with different political challenges | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
and needs. The hotelier David Graham leaves his guests in no doubt about | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
his allegiance. For him independent is about making government more | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
accountable. We still feel distant from Westminster. Westminster still | :03:04. | :03:10. | |
control a lot of the key levers which could make such a difference | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
to Scotland as an independent country. I personally feel that the | :03:15. | :03:18. | |
politicians closer to home can be more answerable to the demands of | :03:19. | :03:25. | |
the people. The independence debate reaches into every community. The | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
level of engagement is unprecedented. The annual Isla | :03:30. | :03:38. | |
agricultural show brings the area together. Mines are being made up in | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
places like this in lengthy conversations with friends and | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
neighbours. I can just see chaos. What is the point of saying you want | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
to be separate, but meantime all we get is a list of the things that we | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
don't want to lose? It must be nice to be either one or the other and so | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
choose what you want to do. I keep getting pulled back and forth. I | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
think it is great. I think it is that we will be able to take this | :04:09. | :04:14. | |
step won't be easy, it will probably be | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
very hard and Neither side now is backing the | :04:21. | :04:27. | |
status passionate no campaigners, like the | :04:28. | :04:34. | |
local postmaster, also want change. Centralisation to a centre of zest | :04:35. | :04:35. | |
technocracy in Edinburgh has not helped us on the islands. The best | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
way to achieve devolution is not just devolution to Edinburgh, but | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
from Edinburgh, more local devolution, and the National 's have | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
a terrible track record on this. In a place like this you see something | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
very important about the nature of this whole debate. It is not just | :04:55. | :04:57. | |
about the national about power, about where it should | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
properly centre more accountable to people | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
who been national flag waving, but this | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
is also people in every part of the country, | :05:11. | :05:17. | |
and groups of friends, about the nature of democracy | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
itself, and how to make it that. pace of that debate has now | :05:22. | :05:29. | |
accelerated fast. Both sides now say they want change, and the decision, | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
changed in or out of the UK, is now just days away. But what about those | :05:34. | :05:40. | |
people across the border in England, who care passionately about the | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
independence debate here but don't get to vote. Our correspondent has | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
been to a town on the border between England and Scotland to find out | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
more. Obviously the debate about Scottish independence is mainly | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
focused on the people who live behind me, in Scotland. But what of | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
the other participants in this 300 `year`old marriage? What does it | :06:04. | :06:09. | |
mean for the people who lived over their? `` live over there? For 200 | :06:10. | :06:20. | |
years the people in this community have witnessed a changing world and | :06:21. | :06:26. | |
the changing UK. For the entirety of this campaign there has been an | :06:27. | :06:32. | |
border that voters here don't need to really | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
is going on over there. After all, the polls suggest that independence | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
defeated. Now however some polls suggest a different picture. So what | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
do voters over here think now. Barry and Nancy Smith are on | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
Staffordshire. Changing polls worry them. We go to Scotland quite | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
regularly, I think this is the third or fourth time in the last few | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
years. We love going north of the border. But it doesn't feel like we | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
are going abroad. Maybe in future it will do. As an English person I am | :07:08. | :07:10. | |
sort of feeling that we are the British Isles, and we are better | :07:11. | :07:12. | |
together. We are better together than going our separate | :07:13. | :07:18. | |
ways, a thick we can be stronger and are stronger together. Most people | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
who live here identify themselves first of all as Berrickers, as | :07:23. | :07:28. | |
opposed to Scottish or English. Things would change, but perhaps not | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
culturally, I think there would still be cross`border link `` | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
Berwickers. Berlot might depend exactly what Scottish independence | :07:39. | :07:42. | |
looks like. Walking through Berwick, you get a sense of a town | :07:43. | :07:50. | |
which looks in both directions. What would it mean for you as a West | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
Highland terrier, do you think? Anything in particular? WOOF! If | :07:57. | :08:06. | |
Scotland were another country, a separate foreign country, a | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
different state, would that bother you? No. They were just do what they | :08:11. | :08:16. | |
want to do anyway. This bridge spans written's life is a great power. | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
Opened just after the Battle of Waterloo, it stood throughout the | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
golden age of British identity. It may begin an era ratcheted by border | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
posts, the union gone, the chain broken. 3% of people in Scotland | :08:31. | :08:38. | |
identify as Asian, making them the largest ethnic group. Our | :08:39. | :08:46. | |
correspondent went to a Sikh temple in Glasgow. The women here are | :08:47. | :08:56. | |
preparing over 2000 chapati, with help or hindrance from me. This is a | :08:57. | :09:03. | |
place of prayer, not politics. But still the referendum comes up in | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
conversation. Everyone is different. Everyone has their own | :09:07. | :09:16. | |
opinion. I am told that for all the Sikhs, very serious in India | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
influences their vote. There were separate states, and we lost the | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
lot. This might have negative connotations for them in terms of | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
their voting. Do they want a separate or stay as one United | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
Kingdom? There are others who see a new future in an independent | :09:37. | :09:44. | |
Scotland. Chandeep Singh is from an independent family. It is about | :09:45. | :09:50. | |
smashing the grass ceiling `` glass ceiling at every level. They use the | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
language which is all about trying to put Scotland on the world stage. | :09:56. | :09:58. | |
And I think that is kind of way I see a lot of what I am trying to | :09:59. | :10:06. | |
achieve. In the streets of this town, it seemed yet Scotland have | :10:07. | :10:12. | |
been making their presence felt. This woman from Muslim Friends of | :10:13. | :10:21. | |
Labour was voting no but has changed her mind. She says business voters | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
in particular are listening. If we are independent we have the ability | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
to say what taxes we want, and we can | :10:31. | :10:33. | |
effectively, aiding small businesses, predominantly the | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
Scottish Asian community what this. The idea of a shared history | :10:38. | :10:43. | |
resonates with the Asian vote. They see the UK as a place where they | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
have been given opportunities. My father talks a lot about what it was | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
like when he the opportunity to give his daughter | :10:52. | :10:56. | |
's education. representation of that opportunity. | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
Evra has their own reasons for voting yes or no. The Asian | :11:03. | :11:03. | |
population has `` is no The implications of this referendum | :11:04. | :11:20. | |
are being watched all around the world, even in Quebec which has had | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
two referendum campaigns themselves in which both times they decided to | :11:25. | :11:32. | |
stay with in Canada. Nick Bryant has been to Quebec City. A parade | :11:33. | :11:42. | |
through the streets retelling the story of the settlement of what was | :11:43. | :11:53. | |
then called New France. The province has retained its brand of foam | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
character although it never achieved independence. The festival organiser | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
explains the dilemma. He sees himself as a Quebec residents burst | :12:04. | :12:11. | |
and a Canadian second `` resident first. Will be still have the | :12:12. | :12:17. | |
Canadian dollar? Will be still trade with our neighbours? Will it be that | :12:18. | :12:24. | |
easy to trade with the other Canadian provinces? How would the | :12:25. | :12:27. | |
other Americans consider us? Those are big concerns for parts of the | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
population. In a decades long struggle, Divac has dealt with | :12:34. | :12:42. | |
losing two referendums, in one case coming within 1% of separation. The | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
lesson for Scotland is that independence is a multiphase | :12:48. | :12:54. | |
affair. It is unbelievable. They just got a new parliament in 1997 | :12:55. | :13:00. | |
and now they are having a referendum to be a free country. If it won't | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
work this time, it's Mike's next time. `` it might. Quebec has | :13:07. | :13:17. | |
achieved a great deal of autonomy but for Scotland, the separatist | :13:18. | :13:24. | |
spirit has been dampened. The last referendum was almost 20 years ago | :13:25. | :13:32. | |
in Quebec but the wish for separation hasn't run away. In | :13:33. | :13:39. | |
Canada, Baycol at never ending referendum `` they call it. For all | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
of Quebec's distinctive culture, there is no appetite for a third | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
referendum. Many feel that the culture of this province has not yet | :13:51. | :14:02. | |
reached its pinnacle. It is widely acknowledged that Scotland became | :14:03. | :14:08. | |
much more keen to join England years ago after the catastrophic failure | :14:09. | :14:11. | |
of their own attempts to build an empire. This scheme was to take over | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
part as Paraguay known as Darien. It almost bankrupted Scotland and led | :14:18. | :14:22. | |
to the phrase, if you can't beat them, join them. This attempt at | :14:23. | :14:36. | |
settling brought ruin to the Scots. The Anglo Scottish union that is now | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
being challenged has its origins here in Darien in Panama. When a | :14:43. | :14:51. | |
nation rethinks its future as Scotland now does, it also | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
re`examines its past. Scotland is rethinking the lessons of what is | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
still known as the Darien Disaster. Documents tell the story of an | :15:01. | :15:04. | |
attempt by Scottish merchants to found a trading colony which they | :15:05. | :15:10. | |
were going to call Caledonia and its capital city New Edinburgh. Here is | :15:11. | :15:17. | |
the Constitution of Caledonia in America. Here is how they wanted | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
their economy to be run. Everything from judiciary to have disputes | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
would be settled. Not just a new colony but a new country. All of | :15:28. | :15:34. | |
these things about beginning. How do you begin a country? It was | :15:35. | :15:42. | |
fantastically ambitious. Very. There would be two major expeditions to | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
Panama carrying 3000 settlers between them. The first embarked in | :15:46. | :15:52. | |
a mood of national euphoria. They set sail on the 14th of July 1698. | :15:53. | :16:04. | |
The Hull City came down to see the colonists depart `` entire city. | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
This was an adventure that everyone wanted to be part of. The colonists | :16:10. | :16:15. | |
bought themselves the luckiest Scotsman alive. They had no idea | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
that they were sailing into personal and national catastrophe. There it | :16:22. | :16:34. | |
is. Scottish harbour and when the hole in his came here after four | :16:35. | :16:41. | |
grueling months at sea, they found themselves surrounded by fertile | :16:42. | :16:48. | |
land not occupied by any European party and they thought this would | :16:49. | :16:55. | |
have had great implications. What they didn't know is that it rains | :16:56. | :17:01. | |
here for most of the year and that nothing ever dries out. It was the | :17:02. | :17:17. | |
amazing fertility of this place that brought the Scots here in the first | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
place. One of the colonisers wrote that the back `` asked breaking work | :17:23. | :17:33. | |
of breaking down the jungle was futile as it grew back after only a | :17:34. | :17:39. | |
month. They had to fight against disease like malaria and yellow | :17:40. | :17:41. | |
fever. Somewhere in this tangle is Scottish cemetery with hundreds of | :17:42. | :17:48. | |
graves. No one has ever found it stop nine months after the first | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
fleet set sail, two thirds of the colonists were dead. We went to the | :17:55. | :18:01. | |
place they named New Edinburgh. It is still named that on some maps. | :18:02. | :18:07. | |
Nothing survives of that capital city. Descendents of the Indians | :18:08. | :18:15. | |
that they try to defend and no one more. It was the goal of the English | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
that was to cause lasting bitterness in Scotland. In London, the king | :18:21. | :18:26. | |
ordered colonies not to trade with Caledonia. To deny all assistance to | :18:27. | :18:36. | |
the colonists. He was placed in a difficult position because English | :18:37. | :18:38. | |
trading interests were very much against the Scottish competition. | :18:39. | :18:48. | |
The realities were that he was going to side where the power and money | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
was. Orders were sent to English plantations saying that they were | :18:54. | :18:58. | |
not allowed to supply the Scots with extra provisions. They were trying | :18:59. | :19:02. | |
to starve them out. Scotland's Imperial ambitions in Canada were | :19:03. | :19:09. | |
defeated by disease and starvation `` Panama. Under the treaty with | :19:10. | :19:20. | |
England, England agreed to pay a sum of money to the investors which was | :19:21. | :19:26. | |
known as the equivalent of the price of Scotland. The referendum debate | :19:27. | :19:36. | |
has been closely followed by Britain's European allies and no | :19:37. | :19:44. | |
country more so than France. They have a union that goes back to the | :19:45. | :19:50. | |
13th century. How has that shaped French attitudes Scottish | :19:51. | :19:58. | |
independence? What are Scottish pipe band 's doing parading in July | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
through and after central Frenchtown? They have annual | :20:04. | :20:10. | |
festivities to mark the old alliance in this small town. Warriors from | :20:11. | :20:19. | |
one Scottish family fought alongside the French against the English and | :20:20. | :20:26. | |
were rewarded with lordships and a chateau which stayed Scottish were | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
nearly 400 years. Enthusiasm for things Caledonia and here extends to | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
the culinary. This is French haggis. The bond is felt. It is a | :20:37. | :20:44. | |
question of blood. They bled for us and French people bled for | :20:45. | :20:53. | |
Scotland. What else? Whether it is the old alliance and their common | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
antipathy towards the English or whether it is just that both | :20:59. | :21:02. | |
countries like to share a drink, there is clearly deep sympathy for | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
the Scots, not just in here that right across France. We carried out | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
an impromptu poll with the audience about Scottish independence and the | :21:13. | :21:18. | |
result was clear enough. The old alliance has left its traces. The | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
French instinctively like the Scots but Scottish independence? It is not | :21:24. | :21:30. | |
really their fight. That is all from this special edition of Reporters | :21:31. | :21:35. | |
with just days to go until Scotland decides. Goodbye for now. | :21:36. | :21:53. | |
Mixed fortunes up and down the UK as we look ahead through the coming | :21:54. | :21:59. | |
week. There will | :22:00. | :22:03. |