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Here, on BBC One, it's time for the news where you are.

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Good evening on Election Reporting Scotland tonight.

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The Labour group on Aberdeen council is suspended from the party

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after forming a coalition with the Conservatives

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And the husband of murdered MP Jo Cox brings his

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message of tolerance and understanding to Scotland.

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Scottish Labour has suspended all of its councillors in Aberdeen

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It comes after they formed a coalition with the Conservatives

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against the orders of the party's ruling body.

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Party leader Kezia Dugdale said voters had a right to expect

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them to defend local services against cuts.

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Labour's 5.00 deadline came and went.

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Kezia Dugdale demanding the nine Labour councillors remove themselves

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I am disappointed because I have been a member of the Labour

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Our group took the decision we wanted to go into coalition

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because we feel it is best thing for the people of Aberdeen,

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we feel that we have negotiated a good deal with our partners

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which means that we have anti-austerity means

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within the programme that will be brought forward.

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The controversial development seen by many as the reason Labour got

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a thumping at the local elections but tonight they are back in power,

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A Labour Lord Provost was elected, nominated by Conservatives.

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The SNP, the biggest party left in opposition.

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What have seen is a dark day for democracy, the three

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It it was a day of comings and goings, the Tories giving up

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council leadership to Labour, despite being the bigger party.

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It is not the party with the most councillors that formed

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the coalition, but the group is coming together to have a strong

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partnership, so with 23 members I think it is fantastic

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Amid the turmoil the Liberal Democrats lost a councillor when one

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of theirs crossed the chamber to join the independents.

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I think there will be anger among a large proportion

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They will be angry there is no change.

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I am shocked at the behaviour of the Conservative Party and Labour.

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One member of the public has made their feelings known

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On the campaign trail tonight the Liberal Democrats have

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The party leader Tim Farron's called on voters to support them and ensure

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they get a choice about Britain's future relationship

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with Europe, with the promise of a new EU referendum.

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Other measures in the manifesto include proposals to restore housing

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benefit for 18 to 21 year olds, as well as ending the freeze

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on benefits and putting a penny in the pound in income tax to spend

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Well, I'm joined by a panel of top pundits.

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Tonight we've got the former Scottish Lib Dem policy convenor,

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Siobhan Mathers, the consulting editor of the National,

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Richard Walker and the journalist Katie Grant.

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Thanks for coming. First to the Liberal Democrat manifesto, is a

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Brexit one issue that the Lib Dems can really set themselves aside from

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the other parties? I would think that is true but they're not sure

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that is good because in the main the idea of conducting another

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referendum on Brexit is not terribly attractive to voters. Many remain

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voters of which I was one would not welcome another referendum and also

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it makes a very difficult negotiation with Europe if Europe is

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thinking added a schoolteacher call this away? Enough is enough I think

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we need to move forward. Do you agree there would be a sense of

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that? I am grateful to the Liberal Democrats to offer some hope as they

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claim that they have absolutely no hope of this manifesto into action

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because they will not form the next Government and they have ruled out

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coalition with the Conservatives and even a coalition with the Labour

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Party is unlikely to form a majority so well there are some good points

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and the manifesto, mental health improvements are among those, I

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think in general there is not a hope in hell that they will be able to

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put any of these plans into action. Do you think it is a broad base of

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voters that this manifesto is trying to reach out to? The is

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traditionally middle-class and highly student. If you look at the

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detail of the manifesto there is something for everybody. There is

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detail from want than usual grants to banning diesel cars to rolling

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back benefit cuts, the problem is that nobody is actually listening to

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that detail, they are focusing on the Europe question and here in

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Scotland on the constitutional question so it is a little bit

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difficult to actually cut through the noise at the moment. I wonder

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how liberal it is? There is stuff about voting reforms, introducing

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single transferable vote to MPs and House of Lords reformed with the

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democratic mandate, do you think those will be popular? I think most

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people would find something to agree with them in that but I think they

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are not top of most people's priority list. In terms of the

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liberal credentials, they have gone back to the liberalisation of

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cannabis, the legalisation of cannabis and this time they have

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added an economic part of that but it will be raise ?1 billion, not

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quite sure what effect it will have on the economy if everyone is

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stunned and unable to get out of bed. And what about the penny in the

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pound on income tax which with that be enough? I would really like a

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political party not to talk about the NHS so much in terms of money

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because we can put all the money in the universe into the NHS and it

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still would work properly because that is the way life is. I would

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think it is far better if the Democrats had really thought about

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how to have a different attitude towards the NHS, and we only to

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think about the NHS so any political party, not just the Liberal

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Democrats will stop this is an old message that the bulk of more to the

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NHS but at every election it comes up as an issue so this is giving it

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for money isn't really the way forward. The wider picture, the Lib

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Dems now have a new leader, the coalition is now a couple of years

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behind them but have they will they be able to shake off that legacy?

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It's difficult. Political memories are wrong, there are those voters

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out there who still have not forgiven in the party for the

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coalition with the Conservatives but at least in ten Brexit does provide

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a new agenda and the party is finding there are plenty out there

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who are disappointed with Brexit and the failure of the Conservatives and

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Labour to really stand up for Brexit. There are a core of voters

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and remember the Lib Dems are not expecting to win a majority, there

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is enough to increase the number of MPs. Moving on to the Labour story,

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how do you think the story in Aberdeen is making Labour look?

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Disastrous for them. I think Kezia Dugdale has done the right thing but

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it speaks volumes about the discipline within the party that

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Labour councillors can just ignore the party ruling and form a Cornish

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and with the Conservatives and it speaks volumes about the standard of

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candidate they had in those elections at the first sniff of

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power they could deal the ditch the principles and form an alliance and

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I think what is welcome to the obvious conclusion. A quick reaction

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from you on Aberdeen kitty. I agree, this is not a surprise from the

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Labour Party is in disarray, how they think it will help the general

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election prospects, I have no idea. Thank you. Sock

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More from the campaign trail coming up, but first Catriona has

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Thanks, Laura. Good evening.

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Unemployment in Scotland has fallen by 14,000 in the last

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But the world of work is changing, with more people now earning money

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through the so-called "gig economy" where one-off services like taxi

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rides and takeaway meals are arranged by mobile phone.

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Our political correspondent Andrew Kerr has this report.

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This massage therapist is enjoying her new career

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Being self-employed, Elizabeth is her own boss.

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She doesn't receive sick pay or paid holidays but there is freedom.

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I think if I sat down with somebody, and spoke about the plus points

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and also the challenges of being self-employed,

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to being on a payroll we could probably come up

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we the same amount of items on each list, albeit

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There has been a rise in traditional self-employment like this

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At the swipe of a screen, with the new gig economy.

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Big companies link workers to customers for a one officer

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It's sold as giving workers more control but the reality for an Uber

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We don't set our own fare, we are not in control

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of our own earnings, we have to do it the Uber

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But on the highways of Glasgow, Uber put us in touch with one driver

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who sees the benefits of working for himself and the company.

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You press a button you are working, you press a button and you stop

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working, nobody is there telling you what to do.

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That is the foundation of flexible working as far as I'm concerned.

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There is currently an independent review into the gig economy.

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In this election the parties are making various promises

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round increasing workers' right and better pay.

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Budding Chancellors will want to make sure they don't

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miss out on tax revenue as self employment increases.

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If the next UK Government tries to address some of these issues

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round differences in tax treatment, between the self-employed

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and employees that has to go alongside changes in the employment

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rights of people working in the self employment sector.

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So as office staff enjoy a lunchtime rest in George Square,

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politicians in this general election campaign are working hard,

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to try to adapt to this changing world of employment.

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A child's travel mug has been withdrawn from sale across Europe

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by the Disney Store after a seven year old girl from Kirkintilloch

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Hospital staff had to use bolt cutters, a hacksaw

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and a drill to remove the screw-top cup from Megan Donald's mouth.

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The company said it was an unfortunate incident

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that they had taken seriously by immediately stopping sales

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A man who planned to end his life at a Switzerland suicide clinic next

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month is to reconsider the decision after being encouraged by a fellow

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56 year old Colin Campbell from Inverness says he feels more

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optimistic after being contacted by a local woman whose condition

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Both have called for more support for those affected

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My situation was extremely bleak. And this has given me is some kind

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of optimism which I definitely didn't have. I could see Colin the

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way I used to be and I just wanted to give him every chance.

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Football, and Inverness are still in with a chance

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of avoiding automatic relegation from the Premiership,

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Elsewhere, Aberdeen beat Rangers at Ibrox,

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It's almost a year since MP Jo Cox was murdered in her

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constituency in West Yorkshire by a far right extremist.

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At the time, her husband, Brendan, warned of the dangers of allowing

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intimidation and abuse to subvert the political process.

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Today he brought that message to Scotland.

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Leaders of all the main parties broke off from campaigning

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to meet him and hear his message of tolerance and understanding.

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For Election Reporting Scotland, he also spoke to Stephen Jardine.

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Brendan Cox, it is a year since your wife, Jo has died, what have the

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last few months been like? The hardest of our lives and we feel we

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are in the early stages of it. We are still coming to terms with

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what's happened and the permanence of it, which, I think, you don't

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fully appreciate at the beginning. And the grief keeps coming. It keeps

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coming in waves. But the kids are resilient, and they are still

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enjoying life. The thing I said when Jo died, the most important thing I

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wanted to do is make sure our kids felt loved and secure which they do.

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The response of the public right across the country has been immense

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which has given us some solace. I've said once or twice that on that day,

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when Jo was killed, there was one act of supreme evil but, since then,

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there have been tens of thousands, millions of acts of compassion from

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people we didn't know, from people we do know, that have given us

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incredible kindness and generosity and have helped us cope with this.

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In Scotland, politics became particularly polarised during the

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independence referendum campaign. When does passion in politics become

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a problem? Passion in politics isn't a problem at all. I think hatred in

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politics is a problem. At when you start to build group -based

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identities of hating the person not in your group, whether it's people

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that don't vote your way, whether it is the independence referendum,

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Brexit, the colour of your skin, your faith, that is the problem, we

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have to drive hatred out while maintaining passion. We disagree on

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many things, on which football team we support or which way we vote in a

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referendum, that's normal. What isn't normal is that turning to

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hatred, people fixating on that and defining the other as the enemy. And

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I think sometimes certainly in recent years politics has fallen

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into that trap too often and I hope in this election and in future

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referendums, and in public life, we get better at the passionate without

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allowing hatred from the extremes to seep in because that isn't what

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resonates with people. It's a tiny minority of extremists but they are

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given too much purchase in the political debate. Thinking about

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social media, Brendan, there is a responsibility on all of us when it

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comes to behave you. Absolutely and I think social media sometimes

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because of the anonymity of it, sometimes because how should you

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have to be with responses, it can polarised in an unhelpful way.

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Brendan Cox, thank you very much. Let's talk to our politicians now,

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we've got Scottish Labour candidate I'm joined by the SNP

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candidate Hannah Bardell, the Scottish Lib Dem

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MSP Alex Cole-Hamilton, and the Scottish Conservative

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MSP Graham Simpson. Good evening to you all and thanks

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for joining us. Blair, people in Aberdeen have been left with no

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representation on the council as a result of the suspensions, is it

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serving Labour voters well? It is one of the situations where we as a

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Labour Party have to consider to work with parties we disagree with.

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The Labour Party is sending a signal that we won't put local services in

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jeopardy. There is a pretty strong disagreement between the part be

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locally and nationally but I think Kezia Dugdale did the right thing to

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say we are not going to countenance deals with people who are going to

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cut local services, which is what people would expect from the Labour

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Party. After the 2012 local elections, there was a Labour-

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conservative- independent coalition, so why is it now OK now? There are

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deals all the way across Scotland between different parties, who have

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different worldviews but the principle that we set out which is

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right after such a hit a few years of cuts from both Westminster and

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the Scottish government that we are clear we won't do deals with parties

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that are going to cut local services. Graham Simpson, what is

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your reaction to today's suspensions? I think it is

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absolutely extraordinary what's happened. My own party would not

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interfere with anything, any of our council group stood because we

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believe in localism. What Kezia Dugdale has done today is strive

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coach and horses through that concept in the Labour Party. It is

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quite extraordinary that Labour are prepared to do deals with the SNP in

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certain councils. Kezia Dugdale is saying that the Unionist coalition

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is not OK. And the voters throughout Scotland and in Aberdeen will be

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utterly confused by this. Let me ask you something the BBC has heard

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about this evening about the head of the Tory manifesto, that Theresa May

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is going to make a commitment to bring immigration down to the tens

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of thousands target. I wonder what your reaction is to that and the

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justification to that? Obviously, I haven't seen the manifesto. Theresa

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May will know what is in it and I don't. But that sounds like a good

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target to aim for. It has been a target missed since 2010. When we

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leave the European Union, we will be able to control immigration far

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better than we've been able to up until now. There is a call for

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higher immigration in Scotland, it is something that has been

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encouraged for the economy here so would voters not welcome it here? We

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are part of the UK and Blair McDougall and I've fought on the

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same side in the campaign to keep us in the United Kingdom. Voters in

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Scotland agreed with us then, so I think if we are part of the United

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Kingdom, then the immigration policy has to be UK wide. Kebab, the

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Liberal Democrats launch their manifesto today with the call for a

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second EU referendum on the Brexited deal that ends up being offered, is

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its democratic to ignore that first vote? On the 23rd of June last year

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the British people voted by a small majority for a departure but not a

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destination. Within hours we saw a lot of the prospectus from the leave

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campaign evaporate. The ?350 million for the NHS on the side of the bus

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was gone by the morning. We believe when the terms of this deal are in

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place, the people best place to decide on those terms are the

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British people themselves. They started this process and they should

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finish it and they should be offered a second option on the ballot paper

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which is to remain in the European Union and that's what my party will

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campaign for. Do you think that might affect the negotiation

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process, though, if it is deemed the UK is dipping its toe in? Not in the

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slightest. It is a sensible and democratic process by which Britain

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can get to decide what Britain wants to do. People should be given the

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opportunity to be asked again, is it really what you meant when you told

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us he wanted Brexit? When the reality sets in when we see

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ourselves potentially adrift, isolated without a trade agreement,

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with all the implication that means for our expats, for people that live

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here, they will actually want to think again and not leave it to

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compile Tory MPs at the top of the Conservative government. The SNP

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oppose Brexit, Hannah Bardell, so would you support a second vote? We

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put in our manifesto in the 2016 Scottish elections that if Scotland

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was taken out of the EU against its well, we would seek to give people

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in Scotland a choice between a hard Tory Brexit and a choice of Scotland

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remaining in the single market. We've just seen I think a very

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moving piece by Brendan Cox and I think with everything happening it

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is important to take a moment and reflect where we are. I actually sat

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alongside Jo Cox in the House of Commons and I took part in the

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target of war with her. I didn't know her well but I was able to be

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in the same choir is her and we owe it to her memory to say where we can

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find common cause, I'm looking at the manifesto Pramac of the various

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parties, we will disagree on many things, but there will be things we

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can agree on and work together on. You don't have to always be in a

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formal coalition. The SNP went into a minority coalition in 2007 and we

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were able to work together with other parties. The public want to

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see that and they understand there will be disagreements and

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differences of opinion but it is about having a respectful

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disagreement. The question I was putting to you is when we have a

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Brexit deal, would it make sense to have a second vote on that, to give

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people a boat on the actual outcome on Brexit? That doesn't respect,

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performing, the way voted in Scotland. What is important is that

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Scotland's place in the single market is protected, and that is

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what we have very much proposed, and that's what we will continue to

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stand up for in Westminster. We have a general election upon us, and we

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have, unfortunately, a government that doesn't have a plan going into

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Brexit. It didn't put forward a proper prospectus and we know

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already it has no plan if there is no deal which is a terrifying

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prospect. That's why the SNP wants to protect Scotland's place and

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Nicola Sturgeon said clearly that if we win the election in Scotland, we

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will have a mandate to put on the table. Thank you for joining us.

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And that's Election Reporting Scotland.

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The Conservative UK manifesto, Scottish Lib Dem leader

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Willie Rennie is on Good Morning Scotland, and the First Leader's

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So, join us again tomorrow night at 10:30pm for all of that.

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Largely dry conditions across the country with some heavy showers in

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the south-west and drifting northwards but by tomorrow morning

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most of those will have gone. Perhaps if you morning showers for

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the Hebrides, elsewhere reasonably dry tomorrow, some sunny spells,

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some cloud, some passing showers through Lanarkshire and

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Stirlingshire and Highland Perthshire but temperatures tomorrow

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morning, 9-10, with the sunshine it is a pleasant start. The showers

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towards sky and the Western Isles, drifting inland through the day,

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perhaps some light showers to start things off across the Northern

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Isles. Heading through tomorrow, we see the showers in the west edging

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eastwards. They will increase in number and also in intensity

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becoming quite heavy across the north-east for a time by early to

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mid afternoon. South of the border, a few showers around but probably

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unlucky if you catch one. Plenty of fine weather with those showers, and

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temperatures up to 20 in the south-east. Plenty of showers for

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Northern Ireland. Let's take a closer look at home. By

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mid-afternoon, 4pm, those heavier showers across the Northeast, Halen

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fund in the mix so if you get caught in one, difficult conditions on the

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roads. A few heavy showers edging into the south-west as well by the

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end of the day, but they ease off heading overnight. Looking ahead

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towards Friday, low pressure out in the Atlantic feeding in some showers

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into the West. It edges up the North Sea giving wet weather for the East

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of Scotland. The North of England wet and East Anglia as well. Taking

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a closer look at us by mid-afternoon, some light showers

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but there's the rain clipping the East Coast. If you avoid the rain

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and showers, reasonably With the general election

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approaching, with the leaders from six

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Scottish political parties going head-to-head before you, the voters,

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in the Scottish Leaders' Debate. with the leaders from six

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Scottish political parties going head-to-head before you, the voters,

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in the Scottish Leaders' Debate.

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