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rather than allow in those who'd made it to Europe.

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As the latest migrants adapt to a new life and culture they're

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grateful they're alive, as Fiona Walker has been finding

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This is what is left of part of the strategic city of Homs in Syria.

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This man is not showing his face because he is fearful that family

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still in Syria will be harmed if he is recognised. Can you describe what

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made you think we need to leave Syria? TRANSLATION: Destroying my

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house. I was fleeing from place to place. After a while they started

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bombing there to. When Scottish people found out that families like

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hers were coming to live here son decided to do their bit.

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These people have got together to knit warm cloud or the refugees. It

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is good to do it because you are helping someone. Volunteers like

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this are helping the Syrians settle in. He is offering friendship.

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He also gets familiar food for them. How important is it for people

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arriving here to get this kind of help?

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It is difficult when you arrive for the first time. The Scottish

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Government said it would take 2000 refugees through the city and

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resettlement programme co-ordinated by the Home Office in London. So far

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400 have arrived. Smaller numbers are expected over the coming months.

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This man arrives in Clydebank to visit. It is one of 16 areas in

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Scotland where the new arrivals are being housed. This is the oldest Dr.

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She is 12. TRANSLATION: I would like to say, thank you and I hope we will

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be a good example. I am happy because they settled as with

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Scottish neighbours to learn the language. We just miss our family

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because we are far away from them. She has already learned her first

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100 words of English and she has not got a bad one to say about Scotland.

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She is working out which are the key words to help her integrate.

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Families in the same block of flats deleted these scooters.

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The latter is such a contrast to the sounds of the war.

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TRANSLATION: We have come from hell to Paradise. In the context of war

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Clydebank is his Paradise. Because this is the alternative. What do you

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think would have happened to you if you had stayed in Homs? We would be

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dead. Just before we came on air,

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the minister for Europe, Humza Yousaf came into

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our Edinburgh studio. When I first arrived in Glasgow

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airport when one of the planes was touching down at the refugees were

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coming through the airport it was an emotional moment, not for ourselves,

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but using what they had come from. And the weekend that past I was at a

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lunch with a number of refugees that have settled in Scotland and I

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cannot tell you how pleased they are to be in safety and sanctuary and

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also how faculty are for the warm welcome they have received

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throughout Scotland. I read an article published today where a

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refugee displayed Clydebank as Paradise. But is a great reaction

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and that is down to the people of Scotland. How many more refugees can

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we expect over the next few months? Do the local authorities have the

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resources to cope Mr Mac my hats off and absolute admiration for the

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local authorities in Scotland. 400 refugees out of the 1000th that have

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arrived in the UK in the last month have come to Scotland. 40%. A

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monumental effort. We have said they would take a minimum of 10% of

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refugees in -- that the UK would accept. That is a flaw not a

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ceiling. We will take as many as we can. Social housing stock

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availability. I am confident we will meet 2000. Anything above and the on

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that, apologies have expressed a will to do so.

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But governments still have to make tough decisions. You were critical

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of David Cameron last year for taking in 20,000 refugees over five

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years when Germany was taking in as many in one weekend but is now

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Germany is looking at limiting the number of refugees. Some German

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local authorities say they are angered over Wales by that number.

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Do you think David Cameron took the correct action? I am not trying to

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discredit what the UK Government has done in terms of Syrian refugees. I

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welcome that. My suggestion was that the UK Government might want to opt

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into the EU relocation scheme. I still believe that. We should be

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taking refugees come to our doorstep in Europe. I saw for myself the

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difficulty facing those refugees, all of them risking their lives to

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do so for a safer life. It is an abandonment of our obligation to our

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fellow human beings if we failed to assist them. I think the UK

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Government should opt into the European relocation scheme and that

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would add another few thousand refugees which is still only

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scratching the surface. It is now a 4.5 million refugee crisis in Syria

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alone. This crisis has had a huge impact in Europe. Do you think this

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might have an impact on the European referendum as we head towards that

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referendum M do you think the refugee crisis might be changing the

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way people are thinking about the European Union? I would hope that

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the referendum campaign is not seen through the prism of migration

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alone. It'll certainly at issue. My advice to UK Government is to not

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make this referendum only about migration. There are many other

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issues we should be campaigning on. Job opportunities that it creates.

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Opportunities to study and travel. But it would be difficult if the

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referendum was only viewed through the prism of what is a very

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sensitive issue. But at the same time the solidarity of people across

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Europe, the many welcoming images we have seen, is a positive thing.

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Thank you. As a nation, we love sugar

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and always have done. We refined it by the ton-load

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and we still consume far too It means adult obesity levels

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could rise to 40% in 15 years. Food Standards Scotland is now

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considering the merits of a sugar tax and they're giving the industry

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just 12 months to think Sugar - it's the current big bad boy

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that everyone is taking a pop at and today Scotland's food

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standards body has stepped up The research shows that we are

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cutting down to sugary fizzy drinks. But we are still taking in the same

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amount of sugar. That might be coming through ready meals or even

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tins of beans. But what they are seeing is tough action is needed

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now. We cannot rule out either regulation or taxation. It is not

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realistic with the present statistics for Bobby city that you

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can rule that out. We are saying to Government let us get this entity

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are many. -- present statistics for obesity.

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It's not just the food producers the agency has in its sights.

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They want to say bye bye to biscuit and chocolate bargain bonanzas

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Their data found half of our sweet or unhealthy treats

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I was buying a colleague a cheat and I ended up buying clean eggs. If it

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was more expensive or ' out of the chocolate aisle? I do not think so.

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I cannot live without it. There are plenty of snacks that are sweet that

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have plenty of sugar within them such as fruit. It is difficult to

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know if that is healthy or not. But you somehow think that is better

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than seats. Data from the Chief Medical Officer

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today suggested that a woman living in a deprived area will drink more

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than twice the amount of sugary drinks than her

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better off counterpart. But the FSS report shows when it

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comes to eating sausage rolls the poorest consumers aren't

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the worst offenders. It's the better off,

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and that is the same for puddings and cakes and pastries,

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the better off are the ones We need to do something about

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reaching all the population of Scotland and taking measures that

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help them understand how to make the healthy choice. We think that this

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measures proposed today, taxation and regulation, help with that

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because basically saying that individual environment and help the

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consumer to make that choice when they see the place deferential and

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for the healthy choice should be, the easy choice for them.

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The Scottish Government however don't seem to be keen on slapping

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At the moment we do not have the power to permit a sugar tax and

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unfortunately a sugar tax would not be the silver bullet that people

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would expect it to be. In some countries where it has been in post

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it has not made that stance of difference that you might think it

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think it would. would.

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Whatever the solution, poor diet is blamed as

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the major cause of the nation's ever expanding waistlines.

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It's how to effectively beat the nation's love of sugar that

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Joining me now from our Edinburgh studio is the new CEO

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for the Scottish Food and Drinks Federation,

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David Thompson, and in the studio we have health specialist

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Penny, you saw in the report how so many of us are addicted to sugar and

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treats but there is so much hidden sugar as well. Do you think a sugar

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tax would help cut consumption? I think it is a powerful tool in the

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armoury. There is a need for information for consumers. If you

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look at that contents of the average weekly shop, it is extraordinary how

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many products like stock cubes have sugar in them that you would not

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expect and once you start looking you see this deal of this. A tax, I

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am sure the sugar industry would say it is a heavy weapon but it is

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potentially a quick one because in Mexico, where they imposed a sugar

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tax, sales of high sugar foods have fallen quickly. But you saw Maureen

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Watt say it is quite a blunt instrument and perhaps has not

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worked so well in Mexico. Mexico say it has worked for them and if we saw

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a 12% drop in consumption we would be pleased, but there is

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recalibration of the ingredients of food, marketing, putting

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restrictions on that, but information for consumers, if you

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don't look at the small print how do you know there are sugar in what you

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buy? David Thompson, you represent the industry, you'd just heard we

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could not rule out regulation or taxation, it sounds like the clock

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is ticking. Nobody in the industry is suggesting there isn't an obesity

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problem. We want to help tackle the problem of obesity and it will cause

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problems in future if we don't, but we think the measures set out today

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in terms of ultimatums and the potential for a sugar tax are the

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wrong types of measures. We want to work with food standards Scotland

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and the Government to deliver evidence-based measures that will

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make a difference for people. But as Penny was pointing out, if you have

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a tax, consumption will fall by 10%. We would quibble with those figures.

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For confectionery and snacks we already have a tax called VAT at

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20%. The evidence from around the world on sugar and fat tax is not

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convincing. It is almost a question of political philosophy, how much

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should government control someone's live? Given that Scotland's obesity

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crisis is now acute, we have high rates of diabetes, directly linked

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to what we eat. This is a health crisis. You could spend the next 15

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years trying to come up with evidence would do what we have done

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with the tobacco industry that has had a real impact on changing

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people's relationship with tobacco, we could do the same with sugar and

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achieve a lot for the help of Scotland. Some people feel the

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industry has been allowed to run riot here, like using fruit toast

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and corn syrup, the Government has been regulating the food industry

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since Victorian times so why not have more regulation when it comes

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to something that causes obesity? All sugar has to be shown on the

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back of a pack as per regulation and many members of the food industry in

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the UK require more information than required by legislation. There is no

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evidence that they sugar tax will make a difference in Mexico. While

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there has been a drop, it is too early to tell and that drop has been

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estimated as five or six calories per person. To put that in

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perspective, a slice of white bread is 80 calories, so it is minuscule

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change. Penny, I saw your face when David mentioned hidden sugars. Yeah,

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if you read the small print and know what the language means you can work

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out what it meant in terms of sugar content, but the fact I have the one

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looking at that small print and discovering sugar in surprising

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products. That constitutes hidden sugar and it has been estimated the

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average Briton eats one kilogram of sugar every fortnight without

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necessarily knowing it. Thank you both.

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It's the ultimate rags to riches story.

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When designer Paul Smith opened his first shop in London

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in 1970, he could little imagine he'd one day have 300 shops

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worldwide, a cult following in Japan, and a knighthood

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His story is told in an exhibition which opens at the Lighthouse

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Our arts correspondent, Pauline McLean, went to meet him.

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This is the start of the exhibition, and all my shops around the world

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have what we call art was, so there is always inspiration, from the age

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of 11 until 18th I didn't have a lot of interest in fashion because I

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wanted to be a racing cyclist and I was doing OK, I didn't think I would

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ever have been a professional, I wasn't good enough for brave enough

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but at 17 I had a bad crash and was in hospital for three months, came

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out of hospital and agreed to meet a few of the other patients who were

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coming out at the same time and one of them, luckily for me, selected a

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pub in my home town of Nottingham that was where all the art students

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went. I think the 60s was a very interesting period because it was

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about second or third generation after the horror of war and it was

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just first-time people could let their hair down and say of course,

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I'll paint the building think or I will wear flowery shirts. How did

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Nottingham compared to that? You were still between the two. I stood

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out probably in a bad way in Nottingham because one day a man

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stopped me in the street because I had long hair and a flurry shirt and

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velvet trousers, you looked like a girl and he was right, absolutely

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right, and it was self-expression. What was lovely was that it was

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self-expression through how you look, what you sign, what you did.

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You were one of the first designers to become yourself, almost as famous

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as what you were making, which sounds like the bit your wife is

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more uncomfortable with. What was going on? The cars I worked in the

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shop, I ran my friend's Little shop, did the windowdressing and then when

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we first started the collections I used to sell the clothes, then audit

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the fabric and arrange to get them made somewhere, then I had to pack

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the box and write the invoice, so all these jobs that made my way more

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rounded, so that is why I think I've managed to have good continuity and

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progress and also because we are in 73 countries now, very popular in

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Japan. That is an understatement, I'm afraid. How do you feel about

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that? I did a talk at a university there in October and they said there

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might be about 600 people and I said that was great, then we arrived in

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our little as the forehand and there were thousands of people outside the

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University. I asked if there was an event on and they said, yes, you! I

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thought they had the Ron Paul, Paul McCartney and not me. The fact there

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were so many celebrities who wear these clothes, somebody like the

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much missed David Bowie. He was a good pal of mine, we produced a

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T-shirt on his birth date to do with the album because he called me

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before Christmas to ask if I would do that and I had done it before for

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him with the last album and I dressed him urgently, not for stage,

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for 79 or something. but he just came to this shop,

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and we never gift clothes. A lot of undergrounds gift clothes

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to attract celebrity but we've never done that, not because I'm a meanie

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but because I want people to like the clothes

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because they like them. I made trousers for Jimmy Page of

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lead supple and, 24 inch waist, can you believe it? -- led Zeppelin. I

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was 18. For anyone who comes into this exhibition and enjoys learning

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about your life, what would you hope they take away from it? Goose bumps,

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serious goose bumps, when they leave, they go...

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So we started with a little 12 foot square shop, ?600,

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only open Fridays and Saturdays, and you can progress

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which sets out the rules and responsibilities so the process of

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devolution by consent will be fairer and more comprehensive ball. We are

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trying to find a devolution and more comprehensive ball. We are

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deploy that language, but something that acknowledges it is a looser

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union is much needed. And could we be looking at something more

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federal? How would that work? Tricky that group is listed by peers, a lot

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of people did not like the F word but I think we have a quad is I

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federal status quo, and moving towards a more federal version is

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something I could bear. Before the referendum, I thought the UK

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Government would have a more holistic approach to the UK but then

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we ended up with Smith. Might some ministers regret that and want to

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look at the UK as a whole when it comes to devolution? Possibly but I

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think now we have the Scotland Bill coming through, we had English votes

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for English laws, David Cameron wants to look at the referendum on

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the EU and not have more discussion about what we do with the governance

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of the UK, he wants to concentrate on that EU referendum and staying in

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power. The land reform bill is being debated at Holyrood. 49 amendments

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were tabled, the leadership of the SNP suffered a defeat from members

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of the conference in October, people wanted it toughened up. They wanted

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it to be more radical, although that is an overused word, not just in

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Scottish politics. The bill is not radical, it is like a lot of

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legislation that claims to be radical but is not and if you look

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at the amendments it is tweeting, the Government has been trying to

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dazzle with the number of amendments, 49 sounds impressive but

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individually does not amount to much. It agree with what David is

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saying, 49 amendments put Ford, one from the Green Party which was

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looking at taking away the possibility for people and companies

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and tax havens to own land in this shady way without knowing who they

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are without paying tax in this country, the Greens but that Ford

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but the Government do not support that. You could say that would be a

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radical move that the Government have not gone for. Let's look at

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something more fun from stateside. Are you ready for a commander in

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chief who will let our warriors do their job and go kick Isis as? Even

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Donald Trump looking embarrassed there. I have always been a bit AV

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Sarah Pailin fan, say what you like about her politics politics needs

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personalities, it needs more senior women and I thought she was great

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value. What does it mean politically for Trump having her support? It

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means name recognition, everyone knows who she is and what she stands

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for, I think she is quite well liked with Conservative Republicans and

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maybe a natural and political partner for Donald Trump, so I think

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it is good for his nomination. Thank you both for joining me tonight.

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Shelley will be here at the same time tomorrow night.

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From all of us tonight, have a very good night. Bye-bye.

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