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Sean Quinn. He was island's richest man. Now, its biggest ever bankrupt. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
I don't think anybody has come across anything like this before. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:17 | |
The scale is unprecedented. Bankrupt but not beaten. Clearly | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
these people are desperate and desperate people do desperate | 0:00:22 | 0:00:29 | |
things. Half a billion dollars at stake in a perilous game of hide- | 0:00:29 | 0:00:35 | |
and-seek. There are police with a semi-automatic rifles and flak | 0:00:35 | 0:00:41 | |
vests. As the hunt goes joke -- Global, I am joining in. I | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
discovered an underworld of international finance, home to | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
secret deals, hidden millions and forgery. A place where vast sums of | 0:00:49 | 0:00:59 | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 47 seconds | 0:00:59 | 0:01:46 | |
money can be stashed beyond the There are millions going out in the | 0:01:46 | 0:01:52 | |
silent, millions that are hidden. More than �100 million of Sean | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
Quinn's money disappeared in South America and I am in police to find | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
out why. I have been halfway across the world, following Sean Quinn's | 0:02:01 | 0:02:07 | |
hidden millions. A fortune he spent a lifetime building, a fortune he | 0:02:07 | 0:02:13 | |
lost to a wildly ambitious bank and then snatched back from under their | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
nose. He saw that as his family's inheritance and said he would not | 0:02:17 | 0:02:22 | |
give up without a fight. That is exactly what the bank has got, to | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
the four corners of the world. Quinn says he is a simple farmer's | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
son and some of the things he did would point to a highly | 0:02:31 | 0:02:37 | |
sophisticated businessman. Just how far will he go to keep the money? | 0:02:37 | 0:02:47 | |
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All the way to jail? Derrylin, County Fermanagh, home to the | 0:02:55 | 0:03:03 | |
business empire built by a scratch by Sean Quinn. Born in the tiny | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
parish of Teemore, he took the family farm and made a global | 0:03:07 | 0:03:17 | |
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empire that would make his own It was an empire built on sand. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:36 | |
Doug from his family farm. Sand became cement, and massive business | 0:03:36 | 0:03:45 | |
that made him millions. Next, a glass plant, the biggest in Ireland. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:53 | |
Plastics, packaging, insulation, energy, all followed. Then there | 0:03:53 | 0:03:59 | |
was Quinn Direct insurance. He kept climbing. An Irish man buying the | 0:03:59 | 0:04:09 | |
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In the the Fermanagh cavern borderlands, a place blighted for | 0:04:14 | 0:04:20 | |
generators by poverty and unemployment, he provided jobs 2000. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:27 | |
Sean Quinn made this improbable dream happen here in Derrylin. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
First of all there is a great deal of gratitude and affection for him | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
because he build something magnificent from nothing and has | 0:04:35 | 0:04:40 | |
given substantial and worthwhile employment to a couple of | 0:04:40 | 0:04:45 | |
generations for 38 years. He has survived this region and made it a | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
viable and vibrant community where as before it wasn't and without him | 0:04:50 | 0:05:00 | |
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it certainly wouldn't have been. Sean Quinn's fortune was entirely | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
self-made. Leaving school at 15, he started at nothing. He wanted his | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
own children to start with a billion each and achieve that at | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
the height of his influence and power when the Quinn family was | 0:05:14 | 0:05:24 | |
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valued at $6 billion. He wanted more, much more. During the Celtic | 0:05:28 | 0:05:34 | |
Tiger good times, everyone was enjoying the party. Sean Quinn and | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
Ireland grew rich together. As his fortune grew, he turned to the | 0:05:38 | 0:05:44 | |
stock market for bigger rewards. Quinn's eye fell upon island's | 0:05:44 | 0:05:50 | |
fastest-growing financial institution, are Anglo Irish Bank. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
The bankers and Sean Quinn saw a lot of themselves in one another. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
They were entrepreneurial and to con risks and were aggressive. They | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
had very low cost bases and were all very profitable during the good | 0:06:03 | 0:06:09 | |
times. I think Sean Quinn saw a lot that he admired in Anglo Irish Bank | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
and certainly, Anglo Irish Bank would have admired the fact that | 0:06:12 | 0:06:20 | |
Sean Quinn was a major shareholder and investor in the bank. Really | 0:06:21 | 0:06:27 | |
they were like kindred spirits almost. But theirs was a dangerous | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
embrace. Anglo Irish Bank bankrolled Quinn but at the same | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
time he secretly signed vast amounts of money into building | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
control over their shares. Even by Celtic Tiger standards, his | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
investment was an enormous risk. If share prices fell, he would lose | 0:06:43 | 0:06:49 | |
everything and the Bank would lose its biggest investor, a slip by one | 0:06:49 | 0:06:59 | |
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would track down both. The critical moment came on 17th March, 2008. A | 0:07:01 | 0:07:09 | |
date when island's back was turned. -- island's back was turned. The | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
banks were closed and the Government was away and the | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
carnival atmosphere hit a crisis that would bring the good times to | 0:07:16 | 0:07:25 | |
an end. Stockmarkets across the world tumbled. It was the day the | 0:07:25 | 0:07:33 | |
Celtic tiger died. For ever known as the St Patrick's Day massacre. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:40 | |
IBRC's share price -- Anglo's share price plummeted and both it and | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
Quinn were in serious jeopardy. The loss threatened to drag down the | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
share price even further. The Bank frantically tried to keep him | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
afloat. Contact was made with Anglo Irish Bank saying there was a major | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
problem. The bank ended up providing more than 300 million in | 0:07:59 | 0:08:08 | |
new loans to cover those losses. But the shares continued to fall. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
As he watched his disastrous investment nosedive, Quinn borrowed | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
more and Anglo gave it to him. Desperation setting. The more they | 0:08:17 | 0:08:27 | |
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lent him, the more he lost. These are the only credit agreements that | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
bought Sean Quinn down. It shows an astonishing amount of lending. It | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
shows �42,000,000.10 day and this one is for a remarkable $1 billion | 0:08:47 | 0:08:54 | |
in a single day. A tower block in Moscow and a shopping centre in | 0:08:54 | 0:09:00 | |
Kiev among many others. A 500 million a property portfolio signed | 0:09:00 | 0:09:06 | |
away to the bank as security. At the final tally Anglo had lent Sean | 0:09:06 | 0:09:12 | |
Quinn more than 2 billion euro, 2.8 billion in fact. It was not their | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
only bad loan but it was the single biggest. In early 2009, riddled | 0:09:17 | 0:09:26 | |
with debt, Anglo simply ran out of money. I think Frank Carson once | 0:09:26 | 0:09:32 | |
had a joke that I am so rich, last week I wrote a cheque and the bank | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
bounced. What is happening here is that this is a unique set of | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
circumstances in Irish corporate history and it was not just to | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
check that was bouncing or the individual bills this person, it | 0:09:43 | 0:09:50 | |
was the bank itself. Anglo Irish Bank was just a sort of big | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
flashing neon sign it, get rich quick. That's what it was. They | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
took chances that other banks wouldn't take and they cut corners | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
and they moved fast. They started it. They started the phenomenon | 0:10:03 | 0:10:09 | |
that led to the crash. There is no doubt about that. It was a culture | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
of banking that was recklessness and not the cautious people you | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
would expect to be handling finances. The Irish government | 0:10:19 | 0:10:25 | |
stepped in. Anglo was nationalised. Over to the tax payer to clear up | 0:10:25 | 0:10:35 | |
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the mess -- mess. The party was Anglo was renamed as the Irish Bank | 0:10:47 | 0:10:55 | |
Resolution Corporation or IBRC. Now the biggest debt collector in | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
Ireland. This building would have been the headquarters of Anglo | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
Irish Bank. Its scale is testament to their grand ambitions. But the | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
bank itself is now a shell, owned by the Irish state, its sole | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
purpose to recover money on behalf of Irish tax payers. And the tax | 0:11:14 | 0:11:20 | |
payers expected Sean Quinn to pay up. At 2.8 billion euros | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
outstanding to a bank owned by the state is a matter of serious | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
concern to the taxpayer. I am not giving away any secrets when I say | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
we don't expect to recover all of that but our job in the bank is to | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
recover as much of it as we possibly can. A bank has been | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
bailed out to the tunes of Italians -- tens of billions and the | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
taxpayer would expect the bank up to aggressively pursue individuals | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
to recover as much money as possible. In this case they would | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
expect Anglo to recover as much property as they possibly could | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
from the Quinn Group. Sean Quinn publicly promised to pay everything | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
back. We do not want to know anything. We want to pay the tax | 0:12:04 | 0:12:09 | |
payer at 100% of the money. 0 need to change his mind months later | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
after he lost his insurance business, his main source for tax. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
-- ass. The family then said they would not pay the money and Sean | 0:12:17 | 0:12:22 | |
Quinn was on borrowed time. The state had taken over the bank and | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
now we moved to takeover the entire Quinn Group. Quinn was effectively | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
nationalised. What once belonged to him, have now belonged to the Irish | 0:12:30 | 0:12:39 | |
Once the richest man in Alun, Sean Quinn walked into a court in | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
Belfast and filed for bankruptcy. But that banquet later bankrupt him | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
in Dublin, where a tougher regime would finish his business career | 0:12:49 | 0:12:54 | |
for good. A bitter Quinn said the bank had ruined his chances of | 0:12:54 | 0:13:02 | |
recovering money for taxpayers. was destroyed. I have grandchildren | 0:13:02 | 0:13:12 | |
now. What Anglo Irish Bank have done to the Quinn Group is like | 0:13:12 | 0:13:20 | |
somebody taking a sledgehammer Tear churl's toys. It is wrecked. Sean | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
Quinn looked crushed. His company gone. The fortune he had set aside | 0:13:25 | 0:13:30 | |
for his children wrote to the state. He had been worth billions, now he | 0:13:30 | 0:13:40 | |
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said he had just �11,000 to his name. Somebody said, get his head | 0:13:45 | 0:13:52 | |
on a spike or some kind of trophy. It appears to a lot of people that | 0:13:52 | 0:13:58 | |
did does not make sense. Consequently, in the group, there | 0:13:58 | 0:14:06 | |
is great concern. They do not like smart Alex in the City and he was a | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
real -- and he ran to some real smart Alex, they were slicker as | 0:14:11 | 0:14:21 | |
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they come. And they proved his Quinn employees said their former | 0:14:25 | 0:14:30 | |
boss was brought down by a vindictive bank. Many protested at | 0:14:30 | 0:14:40 | |
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the new management. We want him Others took it further, as intense | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
local loyalty boiled over into violence. It was the manner of Sean | 0:15:01 | 0:15:07 | |
Quinn's remove fault that was most resented. In terms of the takeover | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
of the Quinn Group, the family allege subterfuge. He was invited | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
to Dublin for a meeting while the troops moved in. Why this underhand | 0:15:19 | 0:15:27 | |
manner? It was not subterfuge, it was a prudent arrangement to make | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
sure that the bank could actually get hold of the security that was | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
their for the loans. There was no vindictiveness at all. I have no | 0:15:36 | 0:15:42 | |
personal animosity towards Mr Quinn or any member of his family. Simply | 0:15:42 | 0:15:48 | |
cheering a bank that is concerned with recovering as much as it can | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
in terms of this security it legally holes. The insurance | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
business was sold. The manufacturing business burdened | 0:15:55 | 0:16:01 | |
with massive debt, it was restructured. The only hope of | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
payback for the taxpayers they in a vast portfolio of overseas property. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:12 | |
Worth over half a billion. international property portfolio is | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
the last area of contention between the Bank and the family and Sean | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
Quinn made it clear to Anglo Irish that they would face a hard-fought | 0:16:22 | 0:16:27 | |
battle over that international portfolio. The bank thought they | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
had already won that battle, but it took control of the entire Quinn | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
Group, but they were in for a surprise. -- when it took control. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:42 | |
Last summer, a Bill unexpectedly arrived at Quinn Group headquarters, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:48 | |
now in the hands of the bank's representatives. An invoice for | 0:16:48 | 0:16:56 | |
companies in Stockholm. Few knew what it meant. The answer had been | 0:16:56 | 0:17:01 | |
hidden on a hard drive on a Quinn Group computer. In it, a file | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
marked strictly private and confidential. Accessible to just | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
five senior staff. It sketched out a brand new Quinn corporate | 0:17:10 | 0:17:16 | |
structure based on does new companies in Sweden. The Quinns had | 0:17:16 | 0:17:26 | |
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Stockholm. This city was the headquarters for the Quinn Group's | 0:17:32 | 0:17:42 | |
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Overseas Properties, now owned by The Quinn family owned property | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
worth hundreds of millions of pounds, located all across the | 0:17:53 | 0:17:58 | |
globe. But it was controlled from here, Stockholm in Sweden. That is | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
why this city became a key battleground in their fight with | 0:18:01 | 0:18:11 | |
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There are more than 20 properties, in many corporate entities in many | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
different countries, it is a very complex way that a family created | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
and it does not meet a whole lot of sense when Sean Quinn says he is | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
just a simple farmer's son. Certainly the corporate structure | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
he established around his business interests would 0.2 highly | 0:18:36 | 0:18:42 | |
sophisticated businessman. -- would point to a highly sophisticated | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
businessman. Today there are mountains of legal papers all over | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
the world detailing that battle between Quinn and the bank. Some of | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
the most revealing ones are probably here in Sweden and I am | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
off to the Appeal Court archive in the old town in Stockholm where I | 0:18:58 | 0:19:05 | |
hope to find them. Sean Quinn had been removed from all his companies | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
by the back, including those based in salute -- in Sweden. But in a | 0:19:11 | 0:19:18 | |
secret boardroom coup, he had apparently got back charge. Here | 0:19:18 | 0:19:27 | |
are the papers. Excellent. This is the whole case? Yes. The whole case. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
These papers show Sean Quinn is still in control of companies worth | 0:19:32 | 0:19:39 | |
hundreds of millions. What is he up to? I found a vital piece of | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
evidence, that may show Sean Quinn trying to get rid of the property. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
He is moving a fortune into that new network beyond the reach of the | 0:19:46 | 0:19:56 | |
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bank. Of the shareholders representatives... Here we have a | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
document dated June 15th, 2011. Two months after the banks supposedly | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
took control. But who is in charge of the property here in Sweden? | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
None other than Sean Quinn himself. What is he doing at this meeting? | 0:20:12 | 0:20:18 | |
It seems as if he is signing over control of the entire empire to his | 0:20:18 | 0:20:28 | |
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nephew, Peter. Peter Quinn, known as P D. Aged 35, he managed Quinn | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
properties across Europe for his uncle. Now he was controlling the | 0:20:34 | 0:20:41 | |
family's new word work -- new network. The family had signed away | 0:20:41 | 0:20:47 | |
control of valuable companies, 11 in total. Potentially millions due | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
to the state were now disappearing from its reach into this new | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
network. Local contacts were listed on the documents that established | 0:20:53 | 0:20:59 | |
the foundation here. I wanted to find out more, so I thought I would | 0:20:59 | 0:21:09 | |
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My name is Jim Fitzpatrick. I am from the BBC. I am in Stockholm at | 0:21:17 | 0:21:25 | |
the moment. From that documentary point of view, your name comes up | 0:21:25 | 0:21:31 | |
against some companies. We would like to clarify what your position | 0:21:31 | 0:21:41 | |
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or role within it was. Goodbye. None wanted to speak to us, even | 0:21:42 | 0:21:49 | |
the registered agent said the new nothing about it. -- they knew. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
What we do know is that the foundation was set up for the Quinn | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
grandchildren, so they were in line for those valuable property | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
transfers made between Peter and Sean. It seems that a clear attempt | 0:22:02 | 0:22:12 | |
to move millions be on the bank was made. -- beyond. So, why are the | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
grandchildren the ultimate beneficiaries of the mysterious | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
foundation? We have spoken to one Quinn associate who said the | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
intention was to be to offer a new beginning for the Quinn family. But | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
the bank, Banahan was a blatant attempt to put assets worth | 0:22:28 | 0:22:36 | |
hundreds of millions of pounds forever beyond its reach. Sean | 0:22:36 | 0:22:41 | |
Quinn and his children had legally pledged their entire empire to the | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
publicly owned bank and to the state. Up a public had no such | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
claim or anything owned by the grandchildren. The bank had | 0:22:49 | 0:22:59 | |
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witnessed a fortune taken from right under its nose. Was the Bank | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
caught napping when they discovered there had been a plan to ship | 0:23:06 | 0:23:12 | |
assets through Sweden? It has become clearer that there is a | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
process, there has been a process underway to try to put assets | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
beyond the reach of the bank. I regret that, it is a process which | 0:23:23 | 0:23:29 | |
we oppose, we are pursuing that. We have made a certain amount of | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
progress through the courts, I hope we can continue. There is a way for | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
that process to come to an end and that would be that the Quinn family | 0:23:40 | 0:23:46 | |
the first Bush processes. -- reversed those processes. Peter | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
Quinn denies the move was to hide millions from the bank. But he has | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
not explained by the property was being transferred into the network | 0:23:55 | 0:24:01 | |
he controlled for the family. A significant stride forward had been | 0:24:01 | 0:24:07 | |
taken by the family in moving control away from the bank. The | 0:24:07 | 0:24:13 | |
Quinns were winning the war, but the fight Adderley just begun. I | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
suppose what we have learned in Stockholm is the lengths to which | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
the Quinn family would go in order to keep control of parts of that | 0:24:20 | 0:24:30 | |
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property empire. The bank says The episode in Sweden set alarm | 0:24:36 | 0:24:42 | |
bells ringing in the bank. Sean Quinn, a simple farmer's son, had | 0:24:42 | 0:24:51 | |
been one step ahead of them. Back in Dublin, the Bank rushed to get a | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
worldwide court order. Its terms were simple, Sean Quinn and his | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
family could not interfere in anyway with the overseas property. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:04 | |
This was a serious escalation. Any further meddling by the Quinns | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
could put them in jail. Once the court order has been made, any | 0:25:09 | 0:25:15 | |
action in breach of that order to be content. It is not a mere | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
technicality, it becomes central. For the bank, obtaining a court | 0:25:19 | 0:25:29 | |
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order was one thing. Enforcing it would be quite another. Kiev, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
capital of Ukraine. An emerging market, still shaking off a Soviet | 0:25:38 | 0:25:45 | |
past. Sean Quinn invested millions here. The City, as staging posts in | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
his move deep into eastern Europe. He promised a great fortune, which | 0:25:50 | 0:25:57 | |
still lies in wait. -- it promised. Kiev is a funny kind of city, it is | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
much bigger than you imagine it beforehand. This mixture of old and | 0:26:02 | 0:26:08 | |
new, the old architecture, the new, swanky investments, and of some | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
some pretty mad Communists staff. This part of the city is on the | 0:26:11 | 0:26:20 | |
cusp. It has some of the new and plenty of the old as well. Irish | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
taxpayers now owned this huge shopping malls. It generates almost | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
$1 million a month in rent. But that is not going to the public | 0:26:28 | 0:26:38 | |
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coffers. I am here to find out why and to find out who is getting it. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
So, this is what $60 million of prime retail real estate in Kiev | 0:26:44 | 0:26:53 | |
looks like. It is called the Univermag. A local landmark and | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
Kiev's first shopping mall. My translator and I can only get so | 0:26:57 | 0:27:07 | |
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What is your problem? We are just taking some television shots. It is | 0:27:18 | 0:27:25 | |
security of the Mall, OK. We are not in the Mall, though? So we are | 0:27:25 | 0:27:32 | |
filming the more but we are not on the Mall, does that...? A Paris we | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
are told we are not allowed to film here even though we are from the | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
public street and we have not tried to get into the Mall. Hello. We are | 0:27:39 | 0:27:47 | |
just taking some film. No... guards did not want us anywhere | 0:27:47 | 0:27:54 | |
near the Mall. Frustrating for us, but worse for this man. He is | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
supposed to run the place. The bank appointed him but even he cannot | 0:27:58 | 0:28:08 | |
get in. Unfortunately when I came the first time, I went to the | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
office on the third floor of this building and first all I found that | 0:28:12 | 0:28:20 | |
the offices closed. It is closed, it is locked, despite some noises | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
and some light that I saw outside. So there were people hiding inside? | 0:28:24 | 0:28:31 | |
Yes, definitely. So these people who were running the Mall, you are | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
the new boss but they were the ones in charge it seemed. Yes, they | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
still pretend to be in charge. At the same time I called the police. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:46 | |
The police came and by the way it was very interesting to see the | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
police with machine guns and dozens of police are men. It is a building | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
in the heart of Kiev. It was embarrassing for everybody there | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
because the management office is next to the bowling alley and this | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
was afternoon time when a birthday party for kids was taking place and | 0:29:04 | 0:29:09 | |
mothers saw people with flak vests and helmets and machine guns come | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
in and they were shocked. This is bad for business overall the | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
weather is in charge of the place. The police refused to help the bank | 0:29:17 | 0:29:26 | |
take charge amounts on this man is still locked out. And who is | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
keeping him and the Irish Bank out? A female employee of the more has | 0:29:30 | 0:29:40 | |
0:29:40 | 0:29:50 | ||
taken legal action to block him. I I think this is the building we are | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
looking for. The woman inside was standing beside -- between the | 0:29:55 | 0:30:01 | |
Irish taxpayer and $1 million a month in rent. Now, this is her | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
home address in a normal residential area of Kiev and we are | 0:30:05 | 0:30:15 | |
0:30:15 | 0:30:24 | ||
going to ring the bell and see if she will talk to us. SHE SPEAKS | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
RUSSIAN They said she was out and she has been avoiding our calls | 0:30:27 | 0:30:32 | |
ever since. It seems unlikely she single-handedly masterminding an | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
attempt to take over the more but they have succeeded in leading the | 0:30:35 | 0:30:44 | |
bank into the quagmire of the Ukrainian court system. They call | 0:30:44 | 0:30:49 | |
Ukraine the Wild East, the rule of law can be haphazard at best. The | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
Irish Bank has discovered why. Every attempt to persuade courts in | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
Kiev of their rightful claims to the mall has been deposed and | 0:30:58 | 0:31:06 | |
obstructed. It is a notoriously gyp corrupt judicial and court system | 0:31:06 | 0:31:10 | |
and it is being used to further the aims of whoever is behind it. That | 0:31:11 | 0:31:17 | |
is to keep this shopping centre out of the reach of the Bank, fire | 0:31:17 | 0:31:23 | |
stalling tactics and delaying tactics. There is an opportunity to | 0:31:23 | 0:31:28 | |
open up cases in a court system that is amenable to taking bribes | 0:31:28 | 0:31:34 | |
to make decisions against your firm and so that is a big issue. For our | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
companies and our member companies we do our best to try and stay out | 0:31:38 | 0:31:43 | |
of the Ukrainian court system when and if up at all possible. When the | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
Irish government complained last year, Ukraine ordered an | 0:31:46 | 0:31:52 | |
investigation into the court's handling of cases linked to the | 0:31:52 | 0:31:58 | |
Mall. Money is still pouring into the tales inside. It is not going | 0:31:58 | 0:32:04 | |
to the Irish taxpayer. I need to find out who is getting it. We | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
never got to see the more employee who is blocking the bank but we did | 0:32:08 | 0:32:16 | |
discover the identity of her boss. Maybe she could tell us more. This | 0:32:17 | 0:32:22 | |
is the woman we are trying to speak to. Unfortunately she does not want | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
to speak to us. She is currently running the mourner at the moment. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
She is the more's Rosenior executive, shown here at an | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
international function. The banks sacked her but she remains in | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
charge. She must know where the money goes but she is also behind | 0:32:41 | 0:32:47 | |
closed doors. She was hired by the Quins. Then they doubled her salary. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
During the takeover by the bank. The question is, if she still | 0:32:52 | 0:32:57 | |
working for them? I have tracked down the man he used to run the | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
Ukraine operation for the family. Following a disagreement three | 0:33:00 | 0:33:07 | |
years ago he was replaced by this woman. He answered directly to Sean | 0:33:07 | 0:33:13 | |
Quinn's nephew Peter. I was the contact person for major decisions. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:19 | |
The approval of rents and leases. These kind of things. A at the time | 0:33:19 | 0:33:28 | |
when you were working within the group, the chief accountant was a | 0:33:28 | 0:33:34 | |
woman, do you know her? Are she is quite knowledgeable and industrious. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
She is concentrating on what she's doing and I think she was | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
performing well and she was promoted to the permission -- | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
position of director. So she would have a lot of loyalty to the group | 0:33:46 | 0:33:52 | |
because she was promoted into that position. Well, I would say she was | 0:33:52 | 0:33:57 | |
loyal and looks like she still is. We have asked her about her role | 0:33:57 | 0:34:03 | |
but she has not answered any of our written questions. If Quinn family | 0:34:03 | 0:34:10 | |
deny she is working for them. Last August, she took part in a meeting | 0:34:10 | 0:34:17 | |
at this Kiev office building. She met the two visitors from Ireland. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
Peter Quinn and his cousin Sean Quinn junior. On the same day a | 0:34:21 | 0:34:28 | |
Quinn company ordered a major deposit for her personal account. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:34 | |
Half-a-million dollars. Apparently signed over by Peter Quinn. Peter | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
Quinn says he didn't approve the payments but he cannot explain why | 0:34:38 | 0:34:48 | |
0:34:48 | 0:34:48 | ||
his signature is there. Sean Quinn Jnr denies any role in the payment | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
which was later blocked and is being investigated by Ukrainian | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
police. The banks say it is a bright and that is because soon | 0:34:56 | 0:35:03 | |
after that meeting, she delivered a knockout blow. She agreed to pay a | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
multi-million-pound debt that would strip the more of all it was worth. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:13 | |
How do you Robber Bank? You can go in with a gun or, as the bank in | 0:35:13 | 0:35:18 | |
this case alleges, you can go to court. Here a couple of days before | 0:35:19 | 0:35:23 | |
Christmas the Kiev national court handed a �28 million debt to an | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
offshore company called Lyndhurst. In so doing -- in so doing they | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
gave them complete control over the Mall. The more should belong to the | 0:35:32 | 0:35:37 | |
Irish public but suddenly it is in hock to a mysterious company in the | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
British Virgin Islands for millions of pounds. This offshore company | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
claims the more owns it a massive debt, but for what? The demand | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
appears to have come from nowhere. You read the press reports of what | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
was happening in the court and you saw these amounts materialise and | 0:35:55 | 0:36:02 | |
what was your reaction? Well, I think my reaction is similar to | 0:36:02 | 0:36:11 | |
many others. The purpose is evident. So only doubt was, it is evident to | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
you but what is the purpose of Bayern been stupid? The purpose is | 0:36:15 | 0:36:22 | |
to keep the property and to get ownership on it, in my | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
understanding. Despite the Bank's protests, the Ukrainian courts are | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
allowed when Lyndhurst to take control, a company that appeared | 0:36:31 | 0:36:38 | |
from nowhere. Vladimir was the man in charge of the entire Quinn | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
operation in the Ukraine. You would like to think that if there were | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
multi-million-dollar loans from the Quinn a corporation to other | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
companies that he would have known about it, and yet he says he knew | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
nothing. Surely if someone was going to know, it would have been | 0:36:53 | 0:37:03 | |
0:37:03 | 0:37:03 | ||
him. Now, after months of silence, Lyndhurst's reported owner has | 0:37:03 | 0:37:08 | |
turned up in Kiev. He claims there is no mystery. He says the Mall was | 0:37:08 | 0:37:18 | |
0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | ||
simply put up for sale. The price was $50 million, cash. The seller | 0:37:21 | 0:37:30 | |
was Peter Quinn. He denies this. The Quinn family say that locals | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
did it and they are not involved. The Bank believes that the Quinn | 0:37:34 | 0:37:44 | |
0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | ||
family orchestrated the move of the more from its control. The pattern | 0:37:48 | 0:37:55 | |
set in Kiev has been repeated in other parts of the former Quinn | 0:37:55 | 0:38:05 | |
0:38:05 | 0:38:06 | ||
empire. Sudden attempt to snatch property away from the bank. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:11 | |
Attempts by faceless companies with one thing in common, they appear to | 0:38:11 | 0:38:21 | |
0:38:21 | 0:38:28 | ||
know the Quinn empire inside out. Russia. Where the bank expected its | 0:38:28 | 0:38:38 | |
0:38:38 | 0:38:38 | ||
biggest pay back. Thanks mainly to this office block in Moscow. It is | 0:38:38 | 0:38:44 | |
nearly $200 million of prime real estate. Prestige tenants like a | 0:38:44 | 0:38:50 | |
Coca Cola guarantee nearly $20 million a year in rent. Part of the | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
Bank's inheritance from Quinn's East and inheritance -- expansion. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:01 | |
Even as late as 2009, with his business under intolerable pressure, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:08 | |
Sean Quinn was still expanding, he at the opening of a business park. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:15 | |
We are involved in seven locations in Russia in total. Dozens of | 0:39:15 | 0:39:24 | |
properties here promise to millions to the Irish taxpayer. But last | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
year the Russian properties were hit with the same style of take | 0:39:28 | 0:39:33 | |
over that was happening in Kiev. They were hit with claims for | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
hundreds of millions of pounds from a host of offshore companies, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:46 | |
demanding a pay up or shut down. The bank was effectively losing | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
control. A fortune was on the move, away from the bank. The question | 0:39:50 | 0:39:58 | |
was, where would it wind up? One company laid claim to more than any | 0:39:58 | 0:40:08 | |
0:40:08 | 0:40:08 | ||
other. Over �100 million of the Bank's money. It is based six-and- | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
a-half 1,000 miles away in Central America. It is an excellent place | 0:40:13 | 0:40:23 | |
0:40:23 | 0:40:34 | ||
Good morning and welcome to beautiful Belize. The only English- | 0:40:34 | 0:40:43 | |
speaking country in Central America. The population is presently 330,000. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:48 | |
Belize, Central America. Despite the poverty, this country plays | 0:40:48 | 0:40:54 | |
host to a lucrative offshore financial industry. The companies | 0:40:54 | 0:41:01 | |
that are based here are collectively worth billions. Not | 0:41:01 | 0:41:11 | |
0:41:11 | 0:41:12 | ||
that the locals see much of it. is not good. The economy is really, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
really bad. The poverty is really overwhelming. I know you will | 0:41:17 | 0:41:23 | |
notice that, right? Right. You cannot help noticing Cup. He can't | 0:41:23 | 0:41:29 | |
help. In high finance offshore areas are a established feature of | 0:41:29 | 0:41:35 | |
the modern world. Good luck and thanks for talking to me. OK. So, | 0:41:35 | 0:41:44 | |
you got to face book made. OK! I have come to believe because this | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
is where the biggest slice of the former Quinn property empire that | 0:41:47 | 0:41:52 | |
should be owned by the Irish taxpayer has turned up. I'm looking | 0:41:52 | 0:41:59 | |
for the company claiming that it now owns that valuable Moscow tower | 0:41:59 | 0:42:07 | |
block. We hadn't much to go on other than its name and an address. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:17 | |
0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | ||
We are looking for somewhere that is a post office box. It is a post | 0:42:19 | 0:42:25 | |
office box address, would that be near here? Pose of his box. Does it | 0:42:25 | 0:42:35 | |
0:42:35 | 0:42:35 | ||
ring any bells? No, the Post Office is over the bridge, I think. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
company is based here, it is claiming Russian property but it is | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
Irish taxpayers who are losing out to the tune of $100 million. The | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
company is supposed to be here summer, but offshore in places like | 0:42:48 | 0:42:56 | |
Belize, everything is a little elusive. In the of sure, there is | 0:42:56 | 0:43:01 | |
an ability to keep the true ownership of the company | 0:43:01 | 0:43:06 | |
confidential. -- offshore. The true ownership of the company can be | 0:43:06 | 0:43:16 | |
0:43:16 | 0:43:17 | ||
withheld or hidden. Finally, I found it. The lucrative office | 0:43:17 | 0:43:22 | |
block in Moscow is controlled by a company based here. It is worth | 0:43:22 | 0:43:28 | |
more than $100 million on paper. You would expect the headquarters | 0:43:28 | 0:43:38 | |
0:43:38 | 0:43:44 | ||
to be quite plush. OK. Box office number 1906. It should be somewhere | 0:43:44 | 0:43:54 | |
0:43:54 | 0:44:08 | ||
here. 1916. 1962. 1906. This is it, this is the number. This is the | 0:44:08 | 0:44:15 | |
registered office, if you like, of the company which owns $100 million | 0:44:15 | 0:44:22 | |
of assets in Moscow. This is it. Irish taxpayers' money effectively | 0:44:22 | 0:44:28 | |
locked up in a dusty post office box in Belize. Controlled by an | 0:44:28 | 0:44:38 | |
0:44:38 | 0:44:39 | ||
offshore company created just last year, its ownership a secret. How | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
this conjuring trick is performed is a mystery. But the bank has its | 0:44:43 | 0:44:53 | |
0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | ||
suspicions about who is behind it. The Quinns. The thing about the | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
offshore world is that basic company information like the owners, | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
directors, financial records, are almost impossible to get hold of. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:08 | |
That is the point. If you want to keep your secrets, you start by | 0:45:08 | 0:45:12 | |
moving your business offshore. Defined as a more on this, I went | 0:45:12 | 0:45:18 | |
to see the man who created that offshore world year in Belize. -- | 0:45:18 | 0:45:23 | |
to find out some more. Clem got free is a former Attorney General | 0:45:23 | 0:45:28 | |
of Belize. He was instrumental in establishing Belize as an offshore | 0:45:28 | 0:45:33 | |
haven for international companies. -- Glenn got free. He knows how to | 0:45:33 | 0:45:39 | |
crack open those secrets. How could I find out if I wanted to know who | 0:45:39 | 0:45:44 | |
owns a company in Belize? international business which is | 0:45:44 | 0:45:50 | |
offshore, you have to go to the court. You have to show that there | 0:45:50 | 0:45:56 | |
are some fraud being committed, the company being misused. A lot of the | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
information is not available, it is up to the court to get the | 0:46:00 | 0:46:05 | |
information. So that is where I am going. And where the bank has | 0:46:05 | 0:46:12 | |
already been in its pursuit of the money. The bank had one shot at | 0:46:12 | 0:46:16 | |
breaking through the secrecy. Take the company to court and prove that | 0:46:16 | 0:46:22 | |
the takeover of Quinn property was illegal. And that is what they did. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:32 | |
0:46:32 | 0:46:42 | ||
The suspicion was that the company It is here indisputable court room | 0:46:42 | 0:46:47 | |
with the colonial symbols very much in place that this Irish battle | 0:46:47 | 0:46:52 | |
took place between the state-owned bank and the company it suspects is | 0:46:52 | 0:46:58 | |
controlled by the man who used to be its richest citizen. The court | 0:46:58 | 0:47:02 | |
ordered the company's owner to reveal his identity. He said he was | 0:47:02 | 0:47:06 | |
a restructuring expert. The banks said he was an unemployed railway | 0:47:06 | 0:47:11 | |
worker in Moscow. They thought he had been put up by the Quinn is mac | 0:47:11 | 0:47:15 | |
to hide their involvement. They had unquestioned on a video link. He | 0:47:15 | 0:47:22 | |
did not have many answers. What I know is that they started the | 0:47:22 | 0:47:26 | |
interview and it became obvious there was somebody else and the | 0:47:26 | 0:47:31 | |
them coaching the witness. The judge said, get out of the room, | 0:47:32 | 0:47:38 | |
you are not supposed to be here. At that point, the person seemed to | 0:47:38 | 0:47:44 | |
have left the room, then a couple of questions after that, the | 0:47:44 | 0:47:50 | |
transmission went dead. Before his abrupt departure, the man claiming | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
to own the company was very specific about when the property | 0:47:53 | 0:47:59 | |
rights were handed over. He said it was on April 4th last year. There | 0:47:59 | 0:48:07 | |
was one problem. On April 4th, that company did not exist. This is | 0:48:07 | 0:48:12 | |
testimony from a lawyer who set up the company. He says it was | 0:48:12 | 0:48:18 | |
effectively an empty shell. No owners, the shareholders, no funds, | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
nothing, until it was purchased in July. That is three months after it | 0:48:23 | 0:48:28 | |
supposedly took hold of the Quinn properties. How could Sean Quinn | 0:48:28 | 0:48:34 | |
signed a transfer to a company that did not exist? It had only been | 0:48:34 | 0:48:38 | |
established as a working company after Sean Quinn had been expelled | 0:48:38 | 0:48:43 | |
from his business. The deal was a fake. Forged to make it look like | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
Sean Quinn was still in charge and before the court order that would | 0:48:48 | 0:48:55 | |
have made it illegal. The question is, did the Quinns perpetrate this | 0:48:55 | 0:49:05 | |
fraud, or someone else masquerading as them? Sean and Peter Quinn | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
insisted they only signed a deal with the man from Moscow directly, | 0:49:08 | 0:49:12 | |
not his company. They say the documents showing that they gave | 0:49:12 | 0:49:17 | |
money to the company that did not exist must have been faked by | 0:49:17 | 0:49:22 | |
someone else. But the court here has turned up another crucial bit | 0:49:22 | 0:49:29 | |
of evidence. The company claiming that Quins' Russian property was | 0:49:29 | 0:49:37 | |
set up by Peter Quinn. I have discovered that it is just one of | 0:49:37 | 0:49:42 | |
half-a-dozen offshore companies now laying claim to buy property in | 0:49:42 | 0:49:47 | |
Russia, all sharing the same set of directors, or purchased on the same | 0:49:47 | 0:49:54 | |
day and all bought by Peter Quinn. -- all purchased. The Bank believes | 0:49:54 | 0:49:59 | |
he did this for the Quinn family to take assets worth millions from the | 0:49:59 | 0:50:08 | |
taxpayer. Peter Quinn says there was no master plan. Yet, he now | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
admits that he and his uncle had signed away millions were per | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
property to a host of company hoping to recover it at a later | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
date. But he says he did this before the bank took charge and | 0:50:19 | 0:50:29 | |
0:50:29 | 0:50:31 | ||
denies he broke the law. Clearly, these people are desperate. The | 0:50:31 | 0:50:38 | |
network just vanished, people do desperate things. The family say | 0:50:38 | 0:50:44 | |
they were acting within the law, but the bank say far from it. By | 0:50:44 | 0:50:48 | |
the time the money and was moving to Belize, the family had no right | 0:50:48 | 0:50:54 | |
to it. Their charge against Sean Quinn is very serious. And this is | 0:50:54 | 0:50:59 | |
it. He was a bogus director using fake documents to take assets that | 0:50:59 | 0:51:03 | |
belonged to the Irish taxpayer beyond their control. No wonder the | 0:51:03 | 0:51:08 | |
back tickets are seriously, no wonder they are prepared to see him | 0:51:08 | 0:51:13 | |
in jail. -- the bank took it. Courts in almost a dozen countries | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
having tied up with a hunt for Sean Quinn's missing millions. They have | 0:51:17 | 0:51:22 | |
heard how the Bank believe that even as far away as Belize, the | 0:51:22 | 0:51:26 | |
farmer's son from County Fermanagh remains in control. The banks say | 0:51:26 | 0:51:36 | |
0:51:36 | 0:51:52 | ||
he is Master and Commander of a At Dublin court must now it | 0:51:52 | 0:51:57 | |
determine Sean Quinn's fate along with his son and his nephew, they | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
are accused of breaking that court order to leave the property well | 0:52:01 | 0:52:06 | |
alone. The charge is contempt of court, possible penalty, if guilty, | 0:52:06 | 0:52:12 | |
his prison. Peter Quinn has faced the most intense questioning in | 0:52:12 | 0:52:22 | |
0:52:22 | 0:52:23 | ||
court. We had questions for him as well. Peter Quinn, BBC Spotlight. | 0:52:23 | 0:52:27 | |
Can I ask you, are you worried about the prospect of going to jail | 0:52:28 | 0:52:33 | |
over this? It is pending at the moment, it is not appropriate... | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
What do you think about the taxpayers to stand to lose hundreds | 0:52:37 | 0:52:47 | |
of millions? -- who stand. Peter Quinn has admitted he wanted to | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
move as much property as possible away from the back for the family. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:59 | |
But like his uncle, he denies he broke the law in doing so. Mr Quinn, | 0:52:59 | 0:53:05 | |
BBC Spotlight. How have you got on today? Is your family hiding its | 0:53:05 | 0:53:15 | |
0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | ||
millions? Oh, billions. The banks say you are. They Quinn's -- the | 0:53:19 | 0:53:29 | |
0:53:29 | 0:53:34 | ||
Quinns said legal advice prevented them from asked -- answering any | 0:53:34 | 0:53:39 | |
further questions. They deny the charge are you comfortable with the | 0:53:39 | 0:53:46 | |
prospect of Sean Quinn going to jail? I regret the fact that there | 0:53:46 | 0:53:51 | |
was so much litigation about that case. But we have no option but to | 0:53:51 | 0:54:01 | |
0:54:01 | 0:54:03 | ||
proceed. What had been so next? there any happy ending? That would | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
be that the people through tried to put assets beyond our reach reverse | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
that process. It is a pity it has come to this but the by and has no | 0:54:12 | 0:54:22 | |
0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | ||
option but to proceed. There will be no happy ending to this. No | 0:54:24 | 0:54:34 | |
happy ending for the other people. But you can be sure that they will | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
not be going to soup kitchens. They will live in some comfort and spend | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
the rest of the day's grieving about why they are not a more | 0:54:41 | 0:54:46 | |
gilded surroundings. Perhaps it did not have to come to this. The | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
Quinns have a court -- court case of their own, alleging they do not | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
owe the money claimed. That is because they say the Daily ins they | 0:54:54 | 0:55:00 | |
borrowed were illegally lent by at bank trying to save its own skin. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:07 | |
-- the billions. While it is accepted that Anglo bank did loan | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
almost 3 billion to the Quinn family, the Quinn family have in | 0:55:11 | 0:55:18 | |
essence alleged that they did so to prevent Sean Quinn unengaging in a | 0:55:18 | 0:55:22 | |
fire sale of his shareholding. That would have led to further downward | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
pressure on the Anglo share price. The Quinn family are arguing the | 0:55:26 | 0:55:31 | |
bag was engaging in an illegal share support scheme. It goes to | 0:55:31 | 0:55:34 | |
the heart of the matter as to whether the ban was trying to | 0:55:34 | 0:55:38 | |
protect itself or to protect Sean Quinn. I would say it is one and | 0:55:39 | 0:55:43 | |
the same. If Sean Quinn went, the bank would have got. In the first | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
instance, the bank was trying to protect Sean Quinn. I think Sean | 0:55:47 | 0:55:52 | |
Quinn was trying to protect himself by approaching the bang regularly | 0:55:52 | 0:56:00 | |
to get loans to cover his losses. What if the Quins are right and the | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
loans were illegal and unenforceable? We dispute that, of | 0:56:04 | 0:56:12 | |
course. But they still have a case they hope to have heard. I do not | 0:56:13 | 0:56:18 | |
contemplate their winning that case. Clearly, we have a different view | 0:56:18 | 0:56:25 | |
of that. Tonight, Sean Quinn's freedom is in the hands of a judge. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:29 | |
A judge to excuse the Quinns from court last week for Sean junior's | 0:56:29 | 0:56:35 | |
winning. Peter, his best man. Temporary respite from the case and | 0:56:35 | 0:56:39 | |
judgment that awaits them. It has been a staggering four for the | 0:56:39 | 0:56:45 | |
billionaire. The bankruptcy case of Sean Quinn was the largest | 0:56:45 | 0:56:51 | |
bankruptcy across Ireland and England. The scale is just | 0:56:51 | 0:56:59 | |
unprecedented. Sean Quinn, perhaps the personification of Ireland's | 0:56:59 | 0:57:05 | |
boom-and-bust. I think it is the best story to describe what | 0:57:05 | 0:57:10 | |
happened in this country, the story of Sean Quinn and I -- Anglo Irish | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
Bank. The most successful bank and the | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
most successful private company family business in this country. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:26 | |
have seen both go from rags to riches to rags again. The bank and | 0:57:26 | 0:57:35 | |
the bankrupt billionaire are not finished with each other yet. We | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
followed the money across the globe and it is clear that the Quinn | 0:57:38 | 0:57:43 | |
family faces years of grinding legal action against the bank and | 0:57:43 | 0:57:48 | |
essentially, the entire Irish state. So far, all the courtrooms in the | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
world have not been able to secure the money that the Quins helped | 0:57:51 | 0:58:00 | |
snatch away. Stockholm, Kiev, Moscow and Belize. The bank's' | 0:58:00 | 0:58:10 | |
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investigators have moved on again. To date, the bank has lost control | 0:58:11 | 0:58:15 | |
of around half a billion, most of that has washed up in offshore | 0:58:15 | 0:58:19 | |
companies around the world. Added fears that it may lose that money | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
entirely into a Quinn family bank account. What further chances of | 0:58:23 | 0:58:28 | |
that happening? Considered this. On the very same day that he set up | 0:58:28 | 0:58:32 |