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The Conservative council leader who is accusing the Government to tax | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
and local authorities to fund academies. Has he got out case? | :01:40. | :01:50. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1767 seconds | :01:50. | :31:18. | |
Hello, I am Marie Ashby. Coming up: The Conservative council leader who | :31:18. | :31:22. | |
is accusing the Government of taxing local authorities to fund | :31:22. | :31:28. | |
his Academy's programme. In some sense -- some sense as bid talk to | :31:28. | :31:32. | |
the Secretary of State. We speak to the MP of Loughborough and poll | :31:32. | :31:42. | |
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homes. Nicky was a solicitor before entering Parliament,. First, | :31:45. | :31:54. | |
trouble A1 of her presence. -- prisons. It is not just Nottingham. | :31:54. | :31:59. | |
Nicky Morgan, we have 80,000 prisoners and more violent ones | :31:59. | :32:03. | |
than ever before. Officers say they do not have the time to form any | :32:03. | :32:10. | |
kind of relationship with them. What are you going to do? It is | :32:10. | :32:13. | |
something the Minister of Justice will have to consider. People want | :32:13. | :32:19. | |
is the hardened criminals in prison. People in prisons who work there | :32:20. | :32:25. | |
need to work with them. Officers and their early twenties are having | :32:25. | :32:28. | |
to retire on medical grounds because of the injuries they have | :32:28. | :32:37. | |
sustained. Something has to be done. There are nasty criminals and there. | :32:37. | :32:41. | |
It is a nasty environment. We lock up more people than anywhere else | :32:41. | :32:51. | |
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in Western Europe. The Government's changes to disability benefit have | :32:51. | :32:55. | |
also been in the news. The coalition have survived a number of | :32:55. | :33:02. | |
amendments by the skin of its teeth. 0.5 million people will not receive | :33:03. | :33:10. | |
it. If people need it, they should be given it. I feel the way that | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
the current situation now is, disabled people need more help than | :33:14. | :33:21. | |
ever before. I think the Government Sion it reduce it because disabled | :33:21. | :33:25. | |
people need it. -- should not. There are too many people using and | :33:25. | :33:34. | |
abusing the system when they should not be. People who are getting | :33:34. | :33:40. | |
benefits, those who should know, it is those issued Hett. Those with | :33:40. | :33:45. | |
disability does not compare with the number of tax dodgers in | :33:45. | :33:50. | |
business and banks that they raise. Are the Government's reforms | :33:50. | :33:55. | |
justified or are they just plain unfair. Sympathy For disability | :33:55. | :34:00. | |
claimants, but also a feeling that the system is being abused. A | :34:00. | :34:05. | |
system is being abused by a small number of people. The general | :34:05. | :34:09. | |
thrust of what the Government is doing well be a big step forward. | :34:09. | :34:15. | |
But penalising people on disability living allowance will takes about 5 | :34:15. | :34:23. | |
million people of, that is not based on a national -- rational | :34:23. | :34:33. | |
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need. -- 0.5 million. You have a proper assessment system. There are | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
people who have been on disability living allowance for a long time. | :34:37. | :34:42. | |
They have been asked, could you work? There are people who want to | :34:42. | :34:46. | |
work. They have not got the support to be able to do that. That is what | :34:46. | :34:51. | |
we are changing. It is about helping people to be as independent | :34:51. | :34:56. | |
as they can be. It seems incredible that many claimants do not have | :34:56. | :35:00. | |
that face to face contact to talk about the situation they are in. | :35:00. | :35:05. | |
is not a proper assessment system. They have said they're going to cut | :35:05. | :35:15. | |
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of 20% of the Bill. That is before you do an assessment. If you do | :35:18. | :35:25. | |
proper fist of his assessments, -- if you do a proper face to face | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
assessments, do them. There were 60 presenter people who appealed | :35:28. | :35:34. | |
against their decisions. They take a few boxes and do not do a full | :35:34. | :35:39. | |
medical assessment are told. have heard that half of those who | :35:39. | :35:44. | |
were denied the new benefit have had a reinstated on appeal. If that | :35:44. | :35:49. | |
does not show the need to tread carefully, what does? | :35:49. | :35:53. | |
Government recognises there is a need to tread carefully. We have a | :35:53. | :35:57. | |
difficult economic situation. We know the benefits bill has grown | :35:57. | :36:05. | |
and grown. When I go out, people say to me, how is it that I am | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
working very hard and saving, yet the people down the road appear to | :36:09. | :36:14. | |
be getting money in and have a better lifestyle than me? There is | :36:14. | :36:19. | |
an and furnace at the moment. If we as people on low salaries, we have | :36:19. | :36:23. | |
to make sure that people are getting the benefits are entitled | :36:23. | :36:30. | |
to. It was shown to be working in some areas of the country. There | :36:31. | :36:36. | |
has been some refinements which looked at the benefit of people | :36:36. | :36:41. | |
with health and mental conditions. There is also -- or was going to be | :36:41. | :36:46. | |
changes. There is a need to attack the system. What is your advice to | :36:46. | :36:51. | |
the Government? If you are doing a proper assessment, why announce in | :36:51. | :36:57. | |
advance that you are going to find 20% of people who will no longer | :36:57. | :37:07. | |
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get the benefit. You should do proper assessments. We had a very | :37:09. | :37:17. | |
good version. MH is a Lords tomorrow. We will be watching. -- | :37:17. | :37:23. | |
it will reach the Lords tomorrow. Academies Act - it they are already | :37:23. | :37:28. | |
controversial. Now the Conservative leader in Leicestershire is | :37:28. | :37:32. | |
accusing the Government of taxing local authorities to fund them. He | :37:32. | :37:36. | |
is demanding action. It is a central plank of the | :37:36. | :37:39. | |
Government's education policy - persuading schools under the | :37:39. | :37:44. | |
control of local authorities to convert to academy status. State | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
maintained but independently run, academies have more freedom to | :37:47. | :37:51. | |
manage their own affairs. If Education Secretary Michael Gove | :37:51. | :37:57. | |
has his way, they will become the norm. We have lots of excuses who | :37:57. | :38:01. | |
do not believe in giving children a better education. It is time to | :38:01. | :38:05. | |
call them what they are - ideals. Change is coming and to those who | :38:05. | :38:12. | |
want to get in the way, I have just two words - hands off. But the old | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
system of council control schools seems to be serving Leicestershire | :38:16. | :38:20. | |
very well. The county has a higher percentage of outstanding schools | :38:20. | :38:26. | |
than anywhere else in the country. Leicestershire's Conservative | :38:26. | :38:31. | |
leader has announced reservations about the past and he backs the | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
idea and was so well but see it is concerned about the financial | :38:35. | :38:41. | |
implications. Effectively there is �100 tax a local authority for | :38:41. | :38:46. | |
every pupil that goes into an academy. That equates to about �10 | :38:46. | :38:52. | |
million a year on a budget. In times of economic strength, that is | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
a lot of money. A 11% of schools and Leicestershire are academies or | :38:56. | :39:01. | |
applying to be. Academies are less popular in Derbyshire where the | :39:01. | :39:07. | |
figure is 6%. In Nottinghamshire 13% of schools are poor want to be | :39:07. | :39:13. | |
academies. And Lincolnshire has the highest proportion - around 20%. | :39:13. | :39:19. | |
Academy status is clearly a highly sensitive issue. We found it very | :39:19. | :39:25. | |
hard to pin their local authorities on what their official view is. | :39:25. | :39:29. | |
Individual schools are especially reluctant to peak -- speak out. One | :39:29. | :39:34. | |
head teacher told us academy status would be a tragedy for the pupils | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
of Leicestershire. But later pulled out of an interview he had agreed | :39:38. | :39:43. | |
to give us. But the Executive principle here at Melton Vale Post- | :39:43. | :39:50. | |
16 Centre has said he would speak to us. We have registered an | :39:50. | :39:54. | |
interest with the Department for Education which is the first that. | :39:54. | :39:59. | |
The governors have a meeting next week where they will be considering | :39:59. | :40:03. | |
where they want to take things forward. What is your own view of | :40:03. | :40:08. | |
academy status? I think it is a great shame. We were stronger by | :40:08. | :40:13. | |
being together. What the world has changed, the local authorities made | :40:14. | :40:19. | |
that clear that they can no longer fulfil that role. And we need to | :40:19. | :40:23. | |
become an academy. Do you feel as if you have been left with no | :40:23. | :40:28. | |
option? Yes, absolutely. challenge now is to ensure that | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
schools that prefer the status quo are not financially penalised. | :40:32. | :40:36. | |
Leicestershire council is working with local MPs to press the | :40:36. | :40:42. | |
Government for a fairer funding. Ian Lever from the National Union | :40:42. | :40:48. | |
of Teachers has joined us. You were one of the MPs who met David | :40:48. | :40:57. | |
Parsons this week. Has he got a kiss? A Yes, he has a case. Any | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
local authority... And that is what the MPs are there for her. There is | :41:02. | :41:07. | |
a lot of detail cut up in it. There is the underfunding of | :41:07. | :41:11. | |
Leicestershire Schools which is contributing to this problem. | :41:11. | :41:15. | |
it should be run the council should subsidise academies. That is right. | :41:15. | :41:20. | |
That is why the figures have got to be looked at. If it is part of a | :41:20. | :41:25. | |
bigger debate. Here we are in a position a change, or only 40% of | :41:25. | :41:29. | |
Leicestershire Schools are academies. We are in that | :41:29. | :41:31. | |
transitional period. That is why the Secretary of State will want to | :41:31. | :41:37. | |
hear the argument. Should Michael Gove give Leicestershire and other | :41:37. | :41:44. | |
councils the money they are losing? He will do because that is the aim | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
of the programme, to get schools to compete with one another. To do | :41:48. | :41:55. | |
that is to get along some. Why it a Conservative council is surprised | :41:55. | :42:00. | |
by that I do not know. One schools opted out in the 1980s, that is | :42:01. | :42:07. | |
what they were based UN. That is what academies are based on now. - | :42:07. | :42:12. | |
back based on. What do you think? share the view that it is baffling | :42:12. | :42:17. | |
to me that this is some surprise. If you encourage schools to leave | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
the local authority, Take That lump of money with them, the local | :42:22. | :42:27. | |
authority has less money left. is simple mass! Every teacher will | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
tell you that the best teaching is done by teachers working together. | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
The best schools are those the work with other schools in the area and | :42:35. | :42:39. | |
have the support of a local authority that is properly funded | :42:39. | :42:43. | |
so it is able to supply all the support it needs. If you take-away | :42:43. | :42:46. | |
the money when budgets are being cut anyway, they will not deal to | :42:46. | :42:51. | |
afford it. They're all saying you are missing something on this one. | :42:51. | :42:59. | |
They should have seen this coming. They have hysteric underfunding. -- | :42:59. | :43:05. | |
historical. That is one issue. We have to check the 50 pound figure | :43:05. | :43:11. | |
that David Parsons has used. We are waiting for details of that. I was | :43:11. | :43:15. | |
whether Ian up until he was worth it has to be under local authority | :43:15. | :43:19. | |
control. My schools are working collaborative, they are working on | :43:19. | :43:24. | |
curriculum. They have converted most of them and their working well. | :43:24. | :43:29. | |
It is a positive thing for pupils. It was mentioned twice in the film | :43:29. | :43:34. | |
as well and it is bandied around the whole time. Schools are not | :43:34. | :43:38. | |
under local authority control. Schools receive support from local | :43:38. | :43:43. | |
authorities. One of the big carrots for schools to be able to opt out | :43:43. | :43:49. | |
of local a 30 control, what they're doing it is moving away from the | :43:49. | :43:52. | |
support that the local authority offers them. We need to try and | :43:52. | :43:58. | |
move away from that terminology because it does not hold any water. | :43:58. | :44:03. | |
Does not hold any water. I am not sure about that. When the money has | :44:03. | :44:11. | |
come from the local authority, they have got control. The schools can, | :44:11. | :44:16. | |
we have to look at whether the local authority can provide support | :44:16. | :44:21. | |
which the schools can buy back from a local a 30. My schools are saying | :44:21. | :44:26. | |
they can get things cheaper from another provider. -- local | :44:26. | :44:31. | |
authority. It is not just the local a 30, one person sitting in an | :44:31. | :44:38. | |
office deciding how money will be allocated. -- and authority. There | :44:38. | :44:42. | |
are groups sitting together who decide how the money is allocated. | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
There is Nahla -- accountability there that is not there. You will | :44:47. | :44:56. | |
have a free-for-all where all schools do what they our doing -- | :44:56. | :45:03. | |
do what they want to do and there is no control. If you are competing | :45:03. | :45:09. | |
together a working together they can raise standards. We have the | :45:09. | :45:13. | |
head teacher more in control in terms of teaching and discipline | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
and the curriculum. My schools are saying they can offer a broader | :45:17. | :45:25. | |
curriculum because they can work together. This is nonsense. When I | :45:25. | :45:32. | |
was first working in Derbyshire in the 1980s, the local education | :45:32. | :45:37. | |
authority left to make a manager schools. That ended in the 1988 | :45:37. | :45:46. | |
Education Act. Michael gold manages was schools are doing not local | :45:46. | :45:53. | |
authorities. -- Michael Gove. In Sweden where they have gone down | :45:53. | :45:58. | |
this road, they found that they have had a drop in attainment. If | :45:58. | :46:02. | |
you have schools competing in a free-market which the ideological | :46:03. | :46:06. | |
approaches, then you have winners and losers instead of a | :46:06. | :46:09. | |
collaborative approach. Academies are shown that standards are going | :46:09. | :46:15. | |
up. No, academies have not shown this. There is no truth in that it | :46:15. | :46:20. | |
off. You cannot say local authorities control schools are | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
Michael Gove does. You cannot have it both ways. You cannot say there | :46:25. | :46:28. | |
system we had was perfect and now we are have not got one there is. | :46:28. | :46:32. | |
There is the danger year there once schools have elected to become | :46:32. | :46:36. | |
academies, there is no going back. So ever goes back, it goes wrong | :46:36. | :46:43. | |
beg. There is no going back and that is deliberate. They do not | :46:43. | :46:46. | |
want people to go back. One of the other points that was touched on, | :46:47. | :46:52. | |
schools could still buy these local a authority services. Local | :46:52. | :46:56. | |
authority Kate's back eight per 10% of the money to provide services | :46:56. | :47:03. | |
for Deaf children, that sort of thing. If you have a school in a | :47:03. | :47:06. | |
Naphill an area that has long it took -- special educational needs | :47:06. | :47:14. | |
and has no problem pupils, that money will not be there. It is a | :47:14. | :47:19. | |
very divisive process. One thing that does worry people is what does | :47:19. | :47:23. | |
happen in a situation when something goes wrong. Say an | :47:23. | :47:27. | |
academy has financial problems, you could end up with a horrible | :47:27. | :47:32. | |
scenario like the crisis of the Southern Cross old people's homes. | :47:32. | :47:37. | |
Then the Government came men. They would come in, would work with | :47:37. | :47:42. | |
management and centre in a school improvement team. That is what the | :47:42. | :47:48. | |
CFE would do. Which was the money which the council used to provide. | :47:48. | :47:52. | |
There is no great enthusiasm for this and Leicestershire. There is | :47:52. | :47:56. | |
no enthusiasm from parents. A lot of it is rushed through and it was | :47:57. | :48:00. | |
speeded up by Leicestershire County Council were saying you need to go | :48:00. | :48:03. | |
for it now because if there will be not any services provided for you | :48:03. | :48:08. | |
and 12 Munster. Our some principles they used on a report, they feel | :48:08. | :48:13. | |
they have no option but to become academies. They are being pressured | :48:13. | :48:16. | |
into it. There is strong encouragement. Leicestershire | :48:16. | :48:21. | |
County Council does encourage it. They have an option, they can just | :48:21. | :48:26. | |
say no. It is up to the governing bodies. They work with the head | :48:26. | :48:31. | |
teachers at the end of the day. It is the right way to go. I can say | :48:31. | :48:34. | |
locally it is an exciting time for my local schools, in terms of the | :48:34. | :48:38. | |
way they are running themselves. I am delighted. It is great to be | :48:38. | :48:43. | |
working with them. They are taking education forward. Deeply insulting | :48:43. | :48:48. | |
to hear Michael Gove saying that those of us who have been teachers | :48:48. | :48:53. | |
for many years not caring about the education of children. That is very | :48:53. | :48:58. | |
insulting. Thank you for joining her debate. Time For A round-up of | :48:58. | :49:07. | |
the political weaken the East Midlands in 60 seconds. -- | :49:07. | :49:10. | |
political week in their East Midlands. | :49:10. | :49:15. | |
Fry's Crimestoppers now a group of Leicestershire residents wants the | :49:15. | :49:20. | |
Government to help -- set up health cover so people can voice their | :49:20. | :49:24. | |
concerns about feelings and the NHS. Shopping ways -- shopping around | :49:24. | :49:29. | |
for ways to have revitalise our eyes streets. Some people say we | :49:29. | :49:34. | |
should converter NT shops and housing. Patients should be allowed | :49:34. | :49:39. | |
access a new cancer drug. She says it is the biggest breakthrough for | :49:39. | :49:43. | |
treating advanced melanoma has in the last 30 years. Dennis Skinner | :49:43. | :49:46. | |
wanted to know when the Prime Minister will be giving evidence to | :49:47. | :49:51. | |
the Levenson acquire it. Doesn't he agree that the British people | :49:51. | :49:57. | |
deserve an answer as to why he appointed one of Murdoch's toddler | :49:58. | :50:03. | |
tenants, Andy Coulson, to the heart of the British Government. -- | :50:03. | :50:11. | |
lieutenant. As I say to my children, do not go to the museum to see a | :50:11. | :50:15. | |
dinosaur. Come to the House of Commons. | :50:15. | :50:23. | |
Ouch! He's in trouble again about being ageist. I think he was a | :50:23. | :50:27. | |
clear that attitude. It was nice to see a politician to say what he | :50:27. | :50:35. | |
thinks. PMQs is not representative about the whole of the weekend | :50:35. | :50:45. | |
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Westminster. A bit of fun? Dennis Skinner's views have not changed | :50:47. | :50:51. | |
since the miners' strike. He cannot take offence because it is what he | :50:51. | :50:59. |