05/05/2013 Sunday Politics East Midlands


05/05/2013

Andrew Neil and Marie Ashby with analysis of the local election results, including interviews with Grant Shapps and Saddiq Khan, and what next for UKIP with Godfrey Bloom.


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the only two counties won by Labour. The new leaders of Nottinghamshire

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2232 seconds

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and Derbyshire are with us, and the the trend? UKIP have made advances

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in Lincolnshire, but they have lost seats everywhere else in the

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region. Instead, Labour are celebrating.

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CHEERING And I am in Leicestershire at the

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Battle of Bosworth Field bank holiday reenactment, from the days

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when a swing in the polls could be a rather eye watering experience.

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We have the leaders from Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire and

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Derbyshire County Councils life in the studio. Labour's Anne Western

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and the Conservatives Nick Rushton have both come in to talk to us. Has

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its own in yet? It is starting to sink in. It is fabulous that the

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people of Derbyshire have put their trust back in Labour by such a wide

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margin. It gives us a clear mandate. We need to look at

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Derbyshire because we have been a bit of an outlier and we have had a

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fantastic result which has not reflected the rest of the country.

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We have run a really positive campaign. There has also been

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dissatisfaction with the previous Conservative council. Nick, everyone

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was predicting a UKIP surgeon Leicestershire, but you have fought

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them off. It was a tough campaign for us. Where UKIP stood, they did

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get 24% of the vote. We need to respect that people voted for UKIP

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and seek to get them back voting for We will be hearing more about both

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of your plans for Leicestershire and Derbyshire in a moment. First,

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let's look at the political map across the East Midlands.

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Labour took control of Derbyshire from the Conservatives, winning 43

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seats, an increase of 20. The Conservatives win 18, down by 13.

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The Lib Dems took three seats, a fall of four. UKIP and independents

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were left without any seats. Labour were Nottinghamshire two, but

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it was close. They win 34 seats, the Mint -- million -- minimum number

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required for a majority. The Conservatives had a drop of 14. The

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Lib Dems lost one. UKIP lost their only seat on the council. The

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Conservatives retained control of Leicestershire.

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They now have 30 seats, a fall of three. The Liberal Democrats came

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second with 13, one less than last time. Lady came third with ten

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councillors. UKIP when two seats on the council.

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There was a shock for the Conservatives in Lincolnshire, where

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they lost overall control. They are still the largest party with 36

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seats, but that is a fall of 24. UK may advantage -- made advances. The

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Lib Dems came fifth, with three seats, a drop of two.

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And, you -- Anne what are your priorities now? We have always said

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that the priorities of any council is to serve the people we

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represent, not the needs of the organisation. We have been looking

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at the pressures that are falling on families in particular. We want to

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support people through these difficult times. We are looking at

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growing jobs in the county, bringing in new investment and helping young

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people into work. We are looking at defending the health service within

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the county. There is a lot of work to be done on adult social care,

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especially for older people and those with learning disabilities.

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And we want to reconnect the county council with communities. Derbyshire

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is a large county, and the seat at Matlock feels quite remote. Nick

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Rushton, you have similar priorities, but you have talked

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about introducing big tent politics. What does that mean? We all know

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that, whoever wins, there is no more money. The set-up a committee before

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the election which will involve the Liberal opposition and the Labour

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Party. We will meet and continue this straightaway as soon as we get

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back to work, and we will decide to make savings or do things in a

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different way, to deliver the frontline services for the least

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possible money. And you think you can work together on that? I hope

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so. I think many of the areas where we have to make savings are above

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and beyond politics. We just have to get in there and get on with the

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job. How are you going to deliver those promises, Anne? You are

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talking about �1 million for potholes, for example. How can you

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deliver that when you will be spending money like that? It is

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about shifting the focus of whether money is spent. I take issue with

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what Nick said about there being no more money. That is a choice that

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the government has made. Money is not fairly distributed across the

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country. Money goes to the South East at the expense of the Midlands

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the North. We are still in one of the most wealthy countries in the

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world, and it is not about there not being enough money, it is about the

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distribution of money. All of us, regardless of politics, should be

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taking those are to the government. Money is the most important thing at

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the moment, because there is not enough of it. You have got to find

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another �30 million of cuts. Where will those cuts fall? This is the

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job that we start on as soon as we get back on Wednesday. It is going

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to be very tough. We are a poorly funded local authority, the worst

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funded education authority bar one in the whole country. We still pride

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ourselves on being able to deliver excellent services for a low cost.

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We will have to change. We will be speaking to the NHS and other

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spenders, and even with Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire, if they want to

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do business with us, I want to do business with them on backroom

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services where we can save money and deliver frontline services.

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On this banker, Day weekend, our Political Editor John Hess is at the

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Battle of Bosworth Field in Leicestershire, where he has been

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gathering results from the political battlefield.

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Yes, I have got to county council is from Leicestershire here, Michael

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Mullaney, Lib Dem, and newly elected UKIP county council for

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Leicestershire, David Sprason. Michael, congratulations. If UKIP is

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now the party of protest, what is the point of the Lib Dems? UKIP did

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get a good vote across Leicestershire and the rest of the

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East Midlands. But we defended all of our seeds in Bosworth and

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Hinckley. But that is not an overall trend. It is a localised effect.

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Leicestershire as a whole, we held all but one of our seeds, and we

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still be main opposition to the Conservatives in Leicestershire. If

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Labour were making any kind of recovery, they would have overtaken

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us. They have not. What happens to the coalition is David Cameron has

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to shift further to a Euro-sceptic line? Will that put unacceptable

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strains on the coalition? The Lib Dems are fighting in government for

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the things we believe in, like raising the income tax threshold. We

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will continue to campaign and fight for our policies, and the Tories try

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to push their way, we will try to stop them. David, you have had an

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interesting journey. You were a senior Conservative and defected to

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UKIP. Congratulations on your result. What do you think it tells

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us about politics in this country, and in this corner of the Midlands?

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I think it sends a clear message about the three main parties. They

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have lost it. They have lost the working class man and woman, and

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they are turning to UKIP, who actually represent their views. That

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is the big picture that is emerging. What does UKIP policy say on adult

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social care on fixing potholes? They are the bread and butter issues.

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Like everybody else, absolutely. It is wrong that older people have to

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sell their own homes to pay for their care. Why are we sending �54

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million every day to Brussels when we have got pressure on adult social

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care? It needs proper funding. I have been fighting for that for

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years. Talking to ministers, you need to fund social care properly.

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It is interesting what you are saying earlier. Do you think that

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UKIP's appeal is to Labour voters in a region like this? Or is it the

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Tories that are looking at the national polls, are more attracted

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to the UKIP message? It was across the board. In my election, people

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were talking to me he was saying they had not voted for eight or ten

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years, who voted for UKIP, because the three main parties have let them

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down. As you know, Nick Rushton is sitting in the studio. Is there any

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particular message that you have for him, and for the Conservative

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Party? Yes. One, can he apologised to the 24,000 people who voted UKIP

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in Leicestershire, that he called them fruit loops? And secondly, what

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is his vision for Leicestershire? Why is he going to increase council

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tax and cut services? Is he going to actually look at the infrastructure

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within County Hall and cut that instead? OK, let's see what he has

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to say. Well, the fruit loops expression, in

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my view, was electoral banter at the time. I am not -- I am big enough to

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apologise for using it. I respect that a vast percentage of

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Leicestershire did vote for UKIP and I will respect their views. What you

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have to say to David, back to him? He was your former deputy wants.

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When he was my deputy, we had a good working relationship, and he was an

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excellent adult social care cabinet member. He is back there as the

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leader of UKIP in the area, and I want to have a meaningful and

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friendly relationship with him. He worked hard and he has been elected

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by the people of his division. A meaningful relationship? Can it

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work? I don't think so. They are totally different. We want to freeze

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council tax. He wants to increase it by 6%. We want to stick up for the

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working class people in Leicestershire and those

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hard-pressed families. OK, David Sprason, thank you very much. Anne

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Western has made way for another victorious Labour councillor here in

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the studio. Alan Rhodes, you took Nottinghamshire from the

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Conservatives, but it was close run. One seat involved. But I've

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good as you had hoped for expected? It was a close. We kept it

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interesting. It was a cliffhanger until the end. We got a mandate. We

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are the Administration. We win the election, and we will now be rolling

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out the programme that we promised the electorate. But he only won

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because UKIP hit the Tory vote. UKIP had an impact... We won two

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seeds in Westbridge food. To lay the seeds came to us from Westbridge fit

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-- to Labour seats. Our priorities will be jobs and schools training.

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Youth unemployment as well is of great concern. We want to create a

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county that attracts inward investment, and we want to make sure

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that Nottinghamshire people are able to access those opportunities. There

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are other things that people on the doorstep told us they wanted. We are

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going to introduce 20 Mph St -- speed limits outside schools. We are

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going to keep street lights on, because committee safety is very

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important. We're going to invest in our libraries and youth centres.

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lands. Can you work together? Nick, you would like to open the door and

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work with others, you were saying. am perfectly happy to work with

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Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire and save money on back office services.

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It would be a missed opportunity if we didn't. This is about delivering

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affordable services to the people of Nottinghamshire, and I am happy to

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work with Leicestershire and any other local authority, or the

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business sector or any other organisation, to help us to do that,

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to deliver. That is what we have been elected to do. We need to

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deliver quality, affordable services. But you still have to make

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huge cuts. Where will they fall? have always said it will not be

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easy. We knew that we would, if we were elected into power in

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Nottinghamshire, that we would have big decisions to make. We will be

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sitting down in the coming weeks. We will open the Bucks and we will see

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where the commitments are. -- open the books. We will decide from there

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on in where we need to change. you have a reduced majority. Where

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the heart for you to get any cuts packages through? I don't think so.

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Some of the savings we have already identified. I said to you earlier

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that we want to set up a new committee to work with opposition

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members to identify where we can make savings. It will be difficult.

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We have got to save around �100 billion over the next four years.

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Will you close Snibston Discovery Park? Labour said they wanted to

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save it. If they look in our manifesto, they will see that there

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are no plans to shut it. So it will stay open? For all those people who

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work there, they will be relieved to get that. There are no plans to shut

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Snibston Discovery Park. Thank you very much.

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Let's go back to John at the Battle of Bosworth Field site.

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We are in the cafe area now. We have been joined by some very

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well-dressed gentleman. -- gentle man. Tell us what you are doing here

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this weekend. We are father and son. You said we were father and husband.

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You misspoke expat I answer -- you misspoke! I and the Duke of Norfolk.

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Why was it important to you to vote in the election? It is important

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because I care about the community. I voted Conservative. What made you

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the Conservative, and not UKIP? the Conservative Party, they are an

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established party, and like everything else, they make

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mistakes, but they have got the framework to put their mistakes

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right. The others, to me, they were an unknown quantity. So you still

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have confidence in David Cameron? Yes. Have a fantastic weekend.

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Let's deputy of some of the visitors who have come here. -- let's get the

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view of some of the visitors who have come here. Did you vote on

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Thursday? Yes. If you don't vote, you don't qualify for any say in

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what happens to you and who governs you. How did you vote?I am not

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telling you. What is your take on where we are politically at the

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moment? We are two years away from the general election. What went

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through your mind before you voted? I always have had the same ideology

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since I could vote, and the only thing that went through my mind was,

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the way I would normally have voted... So you are not going to

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change your mind? I have already changed my mind. You're a classic

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swing voter. Your vote is up for grabs? No. It will only be changed

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once. And that is only once in the last 25 years. OK, thank you very

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much. The visitors have started to gather

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here for this bank holiday event. I will speak to you shortly.

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Interesting to hear what people have to say. They have already made their

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minds as to how they may vote in the next general election. I thought

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this was all about local. Obviously not? We are proud of our record, and

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you're outside broadcast comes from one of our best visitor attractions

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in the whole of Leicestershire, Bosworth battlefield. It is a good

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example of how I want to work with the Labour authority. We want to

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develop a whole Richard III weekend out. We are going to develop a

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fantastic attraction on the site where the body was found. We look

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forward to it. What do you think about what they were saying their?

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They are making their minds up now about 2015. Elections are always

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fought on a combination of national and local issues. That happened this

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time, with dissatisfaction with the coalition government and the

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Conservatives locally. Time for a round-up of the other

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political stories in the East Midlands this week.

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Voters are being asked to hold onto election leaflets they were given in

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the run-up to the county council elections. The unlocked democracy

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group wants them for a survey on what information is available to

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people during an election. The Labour East Midlands NEP Glenis

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Willmott is supporting a campaign to increase the awareness of strokes.

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She is Labour's spokesperson in Europe. She is steering new laws on

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clinical trials through the European Parliament which she says will help

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research into medical emergencies. Knotting in MP Chris Leslie has

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spoken out about their street's parliamentary break. Parliament will

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be back on Tuesday, but the MP says that given the scale of the problems

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facing the country, it is unbelievable that MPs have had

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another break. Annie Battle of Bosworth Field be

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long over, but the battle of the bonus rattles on. Distant relatives

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of Richard III I going to the High Court to fight a decision to bury

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him in Leicester. They want his remains taken to his home city of

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York. The battle rumbles on. Richard III

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met his end at Bosworth, John, so you better be careful! How do you

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see the results now, a couple of days later?

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I have got the ideal political metaphor for you come and four Nick

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Rushton as well. There are some big tents in the background. Looking at

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the outcome of the results, none of the main parties have got anything

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to crow about. The other fact is that the turnout was abysmally low.

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Even in a place like Rushcliffe in Nottinghamshire, or here in South

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Leicestershire, where there is a tradition of a good turnout, barely

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one third of people bothered to vote. That is a caveat that I would

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add to these results. The question, I suppose, is UKIP. They have done

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very well. That has had an effect. It could well be that the Labour

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Party in some areas benefited from that. It may well be that in other

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areas the Tories saw off the UKIP challenge. I think we will see this

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time next year, with the European elections, UKIP doing well again.

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But will the surge start their? Or will it end their? -- there?

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What you think these results mean for the general election in 2015?

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Not an awful lot. The real politics kicks off on Wednesday with the

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Queens speech. Then we get back to bread and butter issues. The new

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rail service will sweep not far from this whole battleground.

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Thank you very much. Alan Rhodes, what is the first thing on your hit

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list when you hit the ground running on Tuesday? What is up there, the

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big thing you need to deal with first? We will be back in the office

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on Tuesday, and the first thing I am going to do his name might even of

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committee chairs and vice chairs who are going to take responsibility for

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the various directorates and budget headings that we have at County

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Hall. Then I am going to sit down with the most senior officers in the

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county council, the chief executive, we will open the looks at -- open

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the books and decide how to go forward. What is the big issue,

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briefly? The big issue is how to find out how to put plans in place

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to create new jobs and employment opportunities. And deliver the

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promises that you made. What about you, Nick? On Tuesday, I am going to

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spend a day at Melton Mowbray market, another institution we are

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proud of. I am meeting with the chief executive on Wednesday, and I

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will be getting my senior team. Our priorities are always the same.

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Andrew Neil and Marie Ashby with the latest analysis of the local election results, including interviews with the Conservative Party chairman, Grant Shapps, former Tory frontbencher, David Davis and shadow justice secretary, Saddiq Khan. He also asks what next for UKIP with Godfrey Bloom MEP.


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