05/05/2013 Sunday Politics East Midlands


Andrew Neil and Marie Ashby with analysis of the local election results, including interviews with Grant Shapps and Saddiq Khan, and what next for UKIP with Godfrey Bloom.

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the only two counties won by Labour. The new leaders of Nottinghamshire


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and Derbyshire are with us, and the the trend? UKIP have made advances


in Lincolnshire, but they have lost seats everywhere else in the


region. Instead, Labour are celebrating.


CHEERING And I am in Leicestershire at the


Battle of Bosworth Field bank holiday reenactment, from the days


when a swing in the polls could be a rather eye watering experience.


We have the leaders from Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire and


Derbyshire County Councils life in the studio. Labour's Anne Western


and the Conservatives Nick Rushton have both come in to talk to us. Has


its own in yet? It is starting to sink in. It is fabulous that the


people of Derbyshire have put their trust back in Labour by such a wide


margin. It gives us a clear mandate. We need to look at


Derbyshire because we have been a bit of an outlier and we have had a


fantastic result which has not reflected the rest of the country.


We have run a really positive campaign. There has also been


dissatisfaction with the previous Conservative council. Nick, everyone


was predicting a UKIP surgeon Leicestershire, but you have fought


them off. It was a tough campaign for us. Where UKIP stood, they did


get 24% of the vote. We need to respect that people voted for UKIP


and seek to get them back voting for We will be hearing more about both


of your plans for Leicestershire and Derbyshire in a moment. First,


let's look at the political map across the East Midlands.


Labour took control of Derbyshire from the Conservatives, winning 43


seats, an increase of 20. The Conservatives win 18, down by 13.


The Lib Dems took three seats, a fall of four. UKIP and independents


were left without any seats. Labour were Nottinghamshire two, but


it was close. They win 34 seats, the Mint -- million -- minimum number


required for a majority. The Conservatives had a drop of 14. The


Lib Dems lost one. UKIP lost their only seat on the council. The


Conservatives retained control of Leicestershire.


They now have 30 seats, a fall of three. The Liberal Democrats came


second with 13, one less than last time. Lady came third with ten


councillors. UKIP when two seats on the council.


There was a shock for the Conservatives in Lincolnshire, where


they lost overall control. They are still the largest party with 36


seats, but that is a fall of 24. UK may advantage -- made advances. The


Lib Dems came fifth, with three seats, a drop of two.


And, you -- Anne what are your priorities now? We have always said


that the priorities of any council is to serve the people we


represent, not the needs of the organisation. We have been looking


at the pressures that are falling on families in particular. We want to


support people through these difficult times. We are looking at


growing jobs in the county, bringing in new investment and helping young


people into work. We are looking at defending the health service within


the county. There is a lot of work to be done on adult social care,


especially for older people and those with learning disabilities.


And we want to reconnect the county council with communities. Derbyshire


is a large county, and the seat at Matlock feels quite remote. Nick


Rushton, you have similar priorities, but you have talked


about introducing big tent politics. What does that mean? We all know


that, whoever wins, there is no more money. The set-up a committee before


the election which will involve the Liberal opposition and the Labour


Party. We will meet and continue this straightaway as soon as we get


back to work, and we will decide to make savings or do things in a


different way, to deliver the frontline services for the least


possible money. And you think you can work together on that? I hope


so. I think many of the areas where we have to make savings are above


and beyond politics. We just have to get in there and get on with the


job. How are you going to deliver those promises, Anne? You are


talking about �1 million for potholes, for example. How can you


deliver that when you will be spending money like that? It is


about shifting the focus of whether money is spent. I take issue with


what Nick said about there being no more money. That is a choice that


the government has made. Money is not fairly distributed across the


country. Money goes to the South East at the expense of the Midlands


the North. We are still in one of the most wealthy countries in the


world, and it is not about there not being enough money, it is about the


distribution of money. All of us, regardless of politics, should be


taking those are to the government. Money is the most important thing at


the moment, because there is not enough of it. You have got to find


another �30 million of cuts. Where will those cuts fall? This is the


job that we start on as soon as we get back on Wednesday. It is going


to be very tough. We are a poorly funded local authority, the worst


funded education authority bar one in the whole country. We still pride


ourselves on being able to deliver excellent services for a low cost.


We will have to change. We will be speaking to the NHS and other


spenders, and even with Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire, if they want to


do business with us, I want to do business with them on backroom


services where we can save money and deliver frontline services.


On this banker, Day weekend, our Political Editor John Hess is at the


Battle of Bosworth Field in Leicestershire, where he has been


gathering results from the political battlefield.


Yes, I have got to county council is from Leicestershire here, Michael


Mullaney, Lib Dem, and newly elected UKIP county council for


Leicestershire, David Sprason. Michael, congratulations. If UKIP is


now the party of protest, what is the point of the Lib Dems? UKIP did


get a good vote across Leicestershire and the rest of the


East Midlands. But we defended all of our seeds in Bosworth and


Hinckley. But that is not an overall trend. It is a localised effect.


Leicestershire as a whole, we held all but one of our seeds, and we


still be main opposition to the Conservatives in Leicestershire. If


Labour were making any kind of recovery, they would have overtaken


us. They have not. What happens to the coalition is David Cameron has


to shift further to a Euro-sceptic line? Will that put unacceptable


strains on the coalition? The Lib Dems are fighting in government for


the things we believe in, like raising the income tax threshold. We


will continue to campaign and fight for our policies, and the Tories try


to push their way, we will try to stop them. David, you have had an


interesting journey. You were a senior Conservative and defected to


UKIP. Congratulations on your result. What do you think it tells


us about politics in this country, and in this corner of the Midlands?


I think it sends a clear message about the three main parties. They


have lost it. They have lost the working class man and woman, and


they are turning to UKIP, who actually represent their views. That


is the big picture that is emerging. What does UKIP policy say on adult


social care on fixing potholes? They are the bread and butter issues.


Like everybody else, absolutely. It is wrong that older people have to


sell their own homes to pay for their care. Why are we sending �54


million every day to Brussels when we have got pressure on adult social


care? It needs proper funding. I have been fighting for that for


years. Talking to ministers, you need to fund social care properly.


It is interesting what you are saying earlier. Do you think that


UKIP's appeal is to Labour voters in a region like this? Or is it the


Tories that are looking at the national polls, are more attracted


to the UKIP message? It was across the board. In my election, people


were talking to me he was saying they had not voted for eight or ten


years, who voted for UKIP, because the three main parties have let them


down. As you know, Nick Rushton is sitting in the studio. Is there any


particular message that you have for him, and for the Conservative


Party? Yes. One, can he apologised to the 24,000 people who voted UKIP


in Leicestershire, that he called them fruit loops? And secondly, what


is his vision for Leicestershire? Why is he going to increase council


tax and cut services? Is he going to actually look at the infrastructure


within County Hall and cut that instead? OK, let's see what he has


to say. Well, the fruit loops expression, in


my view, was electoral banter at the time. I am not -- I am big enough to


apologise for using it. I respect that a vast percentage of


Leicestershire did vote for UKIP and I will respect their views. What you


have to say to David, back to him? He was your former deputy wants.


When he was my deputy, we had a good working relationship, and he was an


excellent adult social care cabinet member. He is back there as the


leader of UKIP in the area, and I want to have a meaningful and


friendly relationship with him. He worked hard and he has been elected


by the people of his division. A meaningful relationship? Can it


work? I don't think so. They are totally different. We want to freeze


council tax. He wants to increase it by 6%. We want to stick up for the


working class people in Leicestershire and those


hard-pressed families. OK, David Sprason, thank you very much. Anne


Western has made way for another victorious Labour councillor here in


the studio. Alan Rhodes, you took Nottinghamshire from the


Conservatives, but it was close run. One seat involved. But I've


good as you had hoped for expected? It was a close. We kept it


interesting. It was a cliffhanger until the end. We got a mandate. We


are the Administration. We win the election, and we will now be rolling


out the programme that we promised the electorate. But he only won


because UKIP hit the Tory vote. UKIP had an impact... We won two


seeds in Westbridge food. To lay the seeds came to us from Westbridge fit


-- to Labour seats. Our priorities will be jobs and schools training.


Youth unemployment as well is of great concern. We want to create a


county that attracts inward investment, and we want to make sure


that Nottinghamshire people are able to access those opportunities. There


are other things that people on the doorstep told us they wanted. We are


going to introduce 20 Mph St -- speed limits outside schools. We are


going to keep street lights on, because committee safety is very


important. We're going to invest in our libraries and youth centres.


lands. Can you work together? Nick, you would like to open the door and


work with others, you were saying. am perfectly happy to work with


Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire and save money on back office services.


It would be a missed opportunity if we didn't. This is about delivering


affordable services to the people of Nottinghamshire, and I am happy to


work with Leicestershire and any other local authority, or the


business sector or any other organisation, to help us to do that,


to deliver. That is what we have been elected to do. We need to


deliver quality, affordable services. But you still have to make


huge cuts. Where will they fall? have always said it will not be


easy. We knew that we would, if we were elected into power in


Nottinghamshire, that we would have big decisions to make. We will be


sitting down in the coming weeks. We will open the Bucks and we will see


where the commitments are. -- open the books. We will decide from there


on in where we need to change. you have a reduced majority. Where


the heart for you to get any cuts packages through? I don't think so.


Some of the savings we have already identified. I said to you earlier


that we want to set up a new committee to work with opposition


members to identify where we can make savings. It will be difficult.


We have got to save around �100 billion over the next four years.


Will you close Snibston Discovery Park? Labour said they wanted to


save it. If they look in our manifesto, they will see that there


are no plans to shut it. So it will stay open? For all those people who


work there, they will be relieved to get that. There are no plans to shut


Snibston Discovery Park. Thank you very much.


Let's go back to John at the Battle of Bosworth Field site.


We are in the cafe area now. We have been joined by some very


well-dressed gentleman. -- gentle man. Tell us what you are doing here


this weekend. We are father and son. You said we were father and husband.


You misspoke expat I answer -- you misspoke! I and the Duke of Norfolk.


Why was it important to you to vote in the election? It is important


because I care about the community. I voted Conservative. What made you


the Conservative, and not UKIP? the Conservative Party, they are an


established party, and like everything else, they make


mistakes, but they have got the framework to put their mistakes


right. The others, to me, they were an unknown quantity. So you still


have confidence in David Cameron? Yes. Have a fantastic weekend.


Let's deputy of some of the visitors who have come here. -- let's get the


view of some of the visitors who have come here. Did you vote on


Thursday? Yes. If you don't vote, you don't qualify for any say in


what happens to you and who governs you. How did you vote?I am not


telling you. What is your take on where we are politically at the


moment? We are two years away from the general election. What went


through your mind before you voted? I always have had the same ideology


since I could vote, and the only thing that went through my mind was,


the way I would normally have voted... So you are not going to


change your mind? I have already changed my mind. You're a classic


swing voter. Your vote is up for grabs? No. It will only be changed


once. And that is only once in the last 25 years. OK, thank you very


much. The visitors have started to gather


here for this bank holiday event. I will speak to you shortly.


Interesting to hear what people have to say. They have already made their


minds as to how they may vote in the next general election. I thought


this was all about local. Obviously not? We are proud of our record, and


you're outside broadcast comes from one of our best visitor attractions


in the whole of Leicestershire, Bosworth battlefield. It is a good


example of how I want to work with the Labour authority. We want to


develop a whole Richard III weekend out. We are going to develop a


fantastic attraction on the site where the body was found. We look


forward to it. What do you think about what they were saying their?


They are making their minds up now about 2015. Elections are always


fought on a combination of national and local issues. That happened this


time, with dissatisfaction with the coalition government and the


Conservatives locally. Time for a round-up of the other


political stories in the East Midlands this week.


Voters are being asked to hold onto election leaflets they were given in


the run-up to the county council elections. The unlocked democracy


group wants them for a survey on what information is available to


people during an election. The Labour East Midlands NEP Glenis


Willmott is supporting a campaign to increase the awareness of strokes.


She is Labour's spokesperson in Europe. She is steering new laws on


clinical trials through the European Parliament which she says will help


research into medical emergencies. Knotting in MP Chris Leslie has


spoken out about their street's parliamentary break. Parliament will


be back on Tuesday, but the MP says that given the scale of the problems


facing the country, it is unbelievable that MPs have had


another break. Annie Battle of Bosworth Field be


long over, but the battle of the bonus rattles on. Distant relatives


of Richard III I going to the High Court to fight a decision to bury


him in Leicester. They want his remains taken to his home city of


York. The battle rumbles on. Richard III


met his end at Bosworth, John, so you better be careful! How do you


see the results now, a couple of days later?


I have got the ideal political metaphor for you come and four Nick


Rushton as well. There are some big tents in the background. Looking at


the outcome of the results, none of the main parties have got anything


to crow about. The other fact is that the turnout was abysmally low.


Even in a place like Rushcliffe in Nottinghamshire, or here in South


Leicestershire, where there is a tradition of a good turnout, barely


one third of people bothered to vote. That is a caveat that I would


add to these results. The question, I suppose, is UKIP. They have done


very well. That has had an effect. It could well be that the Labour


Party in some areas benefited from that. It may well be that in other


areas the Tories saw off the UKIP challenge. I think we will see this


time next year, with the European elections, UKIP doing well again.


But will the surge start their? Or will it end their? -- there?


What you think these results mean for the general election in 2015?


Not an awful lot. The real politics kicks off on Wednesday with the


Queens speech. Then we get back to bread and butter issues. The new


rail service will sweep not far from this whole battleground.


Thank you very much. Alan Rhodes, what is the first thing on your hit


list when you hit the ground running on Tuesday? What is up there, the


big thing you need to deal with first? We will be back in the office


on Tuesday, and the first thing I am going to do his name might even of


committee chairs and vice chairs who are going to take responsibility for


the various directorates and budget headings that we have at County


Hall. Then I am going to sit down with the most senior officers in the


county council, the chief executive, we will open the looks at -- open


the books and decide how to go forward. What is the big issue,


briefly? The big issue is how to find out how to put plans in place


to create new jobs and employment opportunities. And deliver the


promises that you made. What about you, Nick? On Tuesday, I am going to


spend a day at Melton Mowbray market, another institution we are


proud of. I am meeting with the chief executive on Wednesday, and I


will be getting my senior team. Our priorities are always the same.


Andrew Neil and Marie Ashby with the latest analysis of the local election results, including interviews with the Conservative Party chairman, Grant Shapps, former Tory frontbencher, David Davis and shadow justice secretary, Saddiq Khan. He also asks what next for UKIP with Godfrey Bloom MEP.

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