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the only two counties won by Labour. The new leaders of Nottinghamshire
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and Derbyshire are with us, and the the trend? UKIP have made advances
in Lincolnshire, but they have lost seats everywhere else in the
region. Instead, Labour are celebrating.
CHEERING And I am in Leicestershire at the
Battle of Bosworth Field bank holiday reenactment, from the days
when a swing in the polls could be a rather eye watering experience.
We have the leaders from Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire and
Derbyshire County Councils life in the studio. Labour's Anne Western
and the Conservatives Nick Rushton have both come in to talk to us. Has
its own in yet? It is starting to sink in. It is fabulous that the
people of Derbyshire have put their trust back in Labour by such a wide
margin. It gives us a clear mandate. We need to look at
Derbyshire because we have been a bit of an outlier and we have had a
fantastic result which has not reflected the rest of the country.
We have run a really positive campaign. There has also been
dissatisfaction with the previous Conservative council. Nick, everyone
was predicting a UKIP surgeon Leicestershire, but you have fought
them off. It was a tough campaign for us. Where UKIP stood, they did
get 24% of the vote. We need to respect that people voted for UKIP
and seek to get them back voting for We will be hearing more about both
of your plans for Leicestershire and Derbyshire in a moment. First,
let's look at the political map across the East Midlands.
Labour took control of Derbyshire from the Conservatives, winning 43
seats, an increase of 20. The Conservatives win 18, down by 13.
The Lib Dems took three seats, a fall of four. UKIP and independents
were left without any seats. Labour were Nottinghamshire two, but
it was close. They win 34 seats, the Mint -- million -- minimum number
required for a majority. The Conservatives had a drop of 14. The
Lib Dems lost one. UKIP lost their only seat on the council. The
Conservatives retained control of Leicestershire.
They now have 30 seats, a fall of three. The Liberal Democrats came
second with 13, one less than last time. Lady came third with ten
councillors. UKIP when two seats on the council.
There was a shock for the Conservatives in Lincolnshire, where
they lost overall control. They are still the largest party with 36
seats, but that is a fall of 24. UK may advantage -- made advances. The
Lib Dems came fifth, with three seats, a drop of two.
And, you -- Anne what are your priorities now? We have always said
that the priorities of any council is to serve the people we
represent, not the needs of the organisation. We have been looking
at the pressures that are falling on families in particular. We want to
support people through these difficult times. We are looking at
growing jobs in the county, bringing in new investment and helping young
people into work. We are looking at defending the health service within
the county. There is a lot of work to be done on adult social care,
especially for older people and those with learning disabilities.
And we want to reconnect the county council with communities. Derbyshire
is a large county, and the seat at Matlock feels quite remote. Nick
Rushton, you have similar priorities, but you have talked
about introducing big tent politics. What does that mean? We all know
that, whoever wins, there is no more money. The set-up a committee before
the election which will involve the Liberal opposition and the Labour
Party. We will meet and continue this straightaway as soon as we get
back to work, and we will decide to make savings or do things in a
different way, to deliver the frontline services for the least
possible money. And you think you can work together on that? I hope
so. I think many of the areas where we have to make savings are above
and beyond politics. We just have to get in there and get on with the
job. How are you going to deliver those promises, Anne? You are
talking about �1 million for potholes, for example. How can you
deliver that when you will be spending money like that? It is
about shifting the focus of whether money is spent. I take issue with
what Nick said about there being no more money. That is a choice that
the government has made. Money is not fairly distributed across the
country. Money goes to the South East at the expense of the Midlands
the North. We are still in one of the most wealthy countries in the
world, and it is not about there not being enough money, it is about the
distribution of money. All of us, regardless of politics, should be
taking those are to the government. Money is the most important thing at
the moment, because there is not enough of it. You have got to find
another �30 million of cuts. Where will those cuts fall? This is the
job that we start on as soon as we get back on Wednesday. It is going
to be very tough. We are a poorly funded local authority, the worst
funded education authority bar one in the whole country. We still pride
ourselves on being able to deliver excellent services for a low cost.
We will have to change. We will be speaking to the NHS and other
spenders, and even with Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire, if they want to
do business with us, I want to do business with them on backroom
services where we can save money and deliver frontline services.
On this banker, Day weekend, our Political Editor John Hess is at the
Battle of Bosworth Field in Leicestershire, where he has been
gathering results from the political battlefield.
Yes, I have got to county council is from Leicestershire here, Michael
Mullaney, Lib Dem, and newly elected UKIP county council for
Leicestershire, David Sprason. Michael, congratulations. If UKIP is
now the party of protest, what is the point of the Lib Dems? UKIP did
get a good vote across Leicestershire and the rest of the
East Midlands. But we defended all of our seeds in Bosworth and
Hinckley. But that is not an overall trend. It is a localised effect.
Leicestershire as a whole, we held all but one of our seeds, and we
still be main opposition to the Conservatives in Leicestershire. If
Labour were making any kind of recovery, they would have overtaken
us. They have not. What happens to the coalition is David Cameron has
to shift further to a Euro-sceptic line? Will that put unacceptable
strains on the coalition? The Lib Dems are fighting in government for
the things we believe in, like raising the income tax threshold. We
will continue to campaign and fight for our policies, and the Tories try
to push their way, we will try to stop them. David, you have had an
interesting journey. You were a senior Conservative and defected to
UKIP. Congratulations on your result. What do you think it tells
us about politics in this country, and in this corner of the Midlands?
I think it sends a clear message about the three main parties. They
have lost it. They have lost the working class man and woman, and
they are turning to UKIP, who actually represent their views. That
is the big picture that is emerging. What does UKIP policy say on adult
social care on fixing potholes? They are the bread and butter issues.
Like everybody else, absolutely. It is wrong that older people have to
sell their own homes to pay for their care. Why are we sending �54
million every day to Brussels when we have got pressure on adult social
care? It needs proper funding. I have been fighting for that for
years. Talking to ministers, you need to fund social care properly.
It is interesting what you are saying earlier. Do you think that
UKIP's appeal is to Labour voters in a region like this? Or is it the
Tories that are looking at the national polls, are more attracted
to the UKIP message? It was across the board. In my election, people
were talking to me he was saying they had not voted for eight or ten
years, who voted for UKIP, because the three main parties have let them
down. As you know, Nick Rushton is sitting in the studio. Is there any
particular message that you have for him, and for the Conservative
Party? Yes. One, can he apologised to the 24,000 people who voted UKIP
in Leicestershire, that he called them fruit loops? And secondly, what
is his vision for Leicestershire? Why is he going to increase council
tax and cut services? Is he going to actually look at the infrastructure
within County Hall and cut that instead? OK, let's see what he has
to say. Well, the fruit loops expression, in
my view, was electoral banter at the time. I am not -- I am big enough to
apologise for using it. I respect that a vast percentage of
Leicestershire did vote for UKIP and I will respect their views. What you
have to say to David, back to him? He was your former deputy wants.
When he was my deputy, we had a good working relationship, and he was an
excellent adult social care cabinet member. He is back there as the
leader of UKIP in the area, and I want to have a meaningful and
friendly relationship with him. He worked hard and he has been elected
by the people of his division. A meaningful relationship? Can it
work? I don't think so. They are totally different. We want to freeze
council tax. He wants to increase it by 6%. We want to stick up for the
working class people in Leicestershire and those
hard-pressed families. OK, David Sprason, thank you very much. Anne
Western has made way for another victorious Labour councillor here in
the studio. Alan Rhodes, you took Nottinghamshire from the
Conservatives, but it was close run. One seat involved. But I've
good as you had hoped for expected? It was a close. We kept it
interesting. It was a cliffhanger until the end. We got a mandate. We
are the Administration. We win the election, and we will now be rolling
out the programme that we promised the electorate. But he only won
because UKIP hit the Tory vote. UKIP had an impact... We won two
seeds in Westbridge food. To lay the seeds came to us from Westbridge fit
-- to Labour seats. Our priorities will be jobs and schools training.
Youth unemployment as well is of great concern. We want to create a
county that attracts inward investment, and we want to make sure
that Nottinghamshire people are able to access those opportunities. There
are other things that people on the doorstep told us they wanted. We are
going to introduce 20 Mph St -- speed limits outside schools. We are
going to keep street lights on, because committee safety is very
important. We're going to invest in our libraries and youth centres.
lands. Can you work together? Nick, you would like to open the door and
work with others, you were saying. am perfectly happy to work with
Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire and save money on back office services.
It would be a missed opportunity if we didn't. This is about delivering
affordable services to the people of Nottinghamshire, and I am happy to
work with Leicestershire and any other local authority, or the
business sector or any other organisation, to help us to do that,
to deliver. That is what we have been elected to do. We need to
deliver quality, affordable services. But you still have to make
huge cuts. Where will they fall? have always said it will not be
easy. We knew that we would, if we were elected into power in
Nottinghamshire, that we would have big decisions to make. We will be
sitting down in the coming weeks. We will open the Bucks and we will see
where the commitments are. -- open the books. We will decide from there
on in where we need to change. you have a reduced majority. Where
the heart for you to get any cuts packages through? I don't think so.
Some of the savings we have already identified. I said to you earlier
that we want to set up a new committee to work with opposition
members to identify where we can make savings. It will be difficult.
We have got to save around �100 billion over the next four years.
Will you close Snibston Discovery Park? Labour said they wanted to
save it. If they look in our manifesto, they will see that there
are no plans to shut it. So it will stay open? For all those people who
work there, they will be relieved to get that. There are no plans to shut
Snibston Discovery Park. Thank you very much.
Let's go back to John at the Battle of Bosworth Field site.
We are in the cafe area now. We have been joined by some very
well-dressed gentleman. -- gentle man. Tell us what you are doing here
this weekend. We are father and son. You said we were father and husband.
You misspoke expat I answer -- you misspoke! I and the Duke of Norfolk.
Why was it important to you to vote in the election? It is important
because I care about the community. I voted Conservative. What made you
the Conservative, and not UKIP? the Conservative Party, they are an
established party, and like everything else, they make
mistakes, but they have got the framework to put their mistakes
right. The others, to me, they were an unknown quantity. So you still
have confidence in David Cameron? Yes. Have a fantastic weekend.
Let's deputy of some of the visitors who have come here. -- let's get the
view of some of the visitors who have come here. Did you vote on
Thursday? Yes. If you don't vote, you don't qualify for any say in
what happens to you and who governs you. How did you vote?I am not
telling you. What is your take on where we are politically at the
moment? We are two years away from the general election. What went
through your mind before you voted? I always have had the same ideology
since I could vote, and the only thing that went through my mind was,
the way I would normally have voted... So you are not going to
change your mind? I have already changed my mind. You're a classic
swing voter. Your vote is up for grabs? No. It will only be changed
once. And that is only once in the last 25 years. OK, thank you very
much. The visitors have started to gather
here for this bank holiday event. I will speak to you shortly.
Interesting to hear what people have to say. They have already made their
minds as to how they may vote in the next general election. I thought
this was all about local. Obviously not? We are proud of our record, and
you're outside broadcast comes from one of our best visitor attractions
in the whole of Leicestershire, Bosworth battlefield. It is a good
example of how I want to work with the Labour authority. We want to
develop a whole Richard III weekend out. We are going to develop a
fantastic attraction on the site where the body was found. We look
forward to it. What do you think about what they were saying their?
They are making their minds up now about 2015. Elections are always
fought on a combination of national and local issues. That happened this
time, with dissatisfaction with the coalition government and the
Conservatives locally. Time for a round-up of the other
political stories in the East Midlands this week.
Voters are being asked to hold onto election leaflets they were given in
the run-up to the county council elections. The unlocked democracy
group wants them for a survey on what information is available to
people during an election. The Labour East Midlands NEP Glenis
Willmott is supporting a campaign to increase the awareness of strokes.
She is Labour's spokesperson in Europe. She is steering new laws on
clinical trials through the European Parliament which she says will help
research into medical emergencies. Knotting in MP Chris Leslie has
spoken out about their street's parliamentary break. Parliament will
be back on Tuesday, but the MP says that given the scale of the problems
facing the country, it is unbelievable that MPs have had
another break. Annie Battle of Bosworth Field be
long over, but the battle of the bonus rattles on. Distant relatives
of Richard III I going to the High Court to fight a decision to bury
him in Leicester. They want his remains taken to his home city of
York. The battle rumbles on. Richard III
met his end at Bosworth, John, so you better be careful! How do you
see the results now, a couple of days later?
I have got the ideal political metaphor for you come and four Nick
Rushton as well. There are some big tents in the background. Looking at
the outcome of the results, none of the main parties have got anything
to crow about. The other fact is that the turnout was abysmally low.
Even in a place like Rushcliffe in Nottinghamshire, or here in South
Leicestershire, where there is a tradition of a good turnout, barely
one third of people bothered to vote. That is a caveat that I would
add to these results. The question, I suppose, is UKIP. They have done
very well. That has had an effect. It could well be that the Labour
Party in some areas benefited from that. It may well be that in other
areas the Tories saw off the UKIP challenge. I think we will see this
time next year, with the European elections, UKIP doing well again.
But will the surge start their? Or will it end their? -- there?
What you think these results mean for the general election in 2015?
Not an awful lot. The real politics kicks off on Wednesday with the
Queens speech. Then we get back to bread and butter issues. The new
rail service will sweep not far from this whole battleground.
Thank you very much. Alan Rhodes, what is the first thing on your hit
list when you hit the ground running on Tuesday? What is up there, the
big thing you need to deal with first? We will be back in the office
on Tuesday, and the first thing I am going to do his name might even of
committee chairs and vice chairs who are going to take responsibility for
the various directorates and budget headings that we have at County
Hall. Then I am going to sit down with the most senior officers in the
county council, the chief executive, we will open the looks at -- open
the books and decide how to go forward. What is the big issue,
briefly? The big issue is how to find out how to put plans in place
to create new jobs and employment opportunities. And deliver the
promises that you made. What about you, Nick? On Tuesday, I am going to
spend a day at Melton Mowbray market, another institution we are
proud of. I am meeting with the chief executive on Wednesday, and I
will be getting my senior team. Our priorities are always the same.
Andrew Neil and Marie Ashby with the latest analysis of the local election results, including interviews with the Conservative Party chairman, Grant Shapps, former Tory frontbencher, David Davis and shadow justice secretary, Saddiq Khan. He also asks what next for UKIP with Godfrey Bloom MEP.