12/05/2013 Sunday Politics East Midlands


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violence on the increase. What is being done? Will the new care will


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ease the cost of looking after your violence on the increase and future


funding uncertain. And more money for carers. Why have a legislation


in place. But the question of how you fund that. Jessica Lee and Liz


Kendall join me today. The big story this week has been the Queen's


speech. The announcement around social care will be of particular


interest to those. Jessica, what is there in that speech that will


directly help us here in the East Midlands? There are lots of points


in the speech. The key issue is immigration for me and for my


constituents. The reason why that is important because it goes to


measures to tackle things like private landlords, making sure they


get references on people's immigration status. These affect


issues with people seeking housing as well as the wider policy issues


for the country, like deportation measures. Is that something you


wanted to hear? What I wanted to hear is some proper action to get


growth in this region. We have got so many of our young people who are


unemployed. Young people have been unemployed for more than a year have


gone up by more than a quarter, just as they have gone up in Lincoln and


Sherwood. Those young people deserve a better chance and life. Do you


think people are not interested in immigration? They are, they want


tough and fair system. But they also want jobs and growth so they can pay


their bills and that young people have a future. Are your priorities


wrong? I disagree with what she has said. The measures for tackling


immigration will help people. The second point is that the government


is absolutely giving top priority to jobs and helping people get into


work. That is why we had a jobs fair last year in which over 1000 people


attended. I will have another one later this year. All these issues


are to help businesses employ people. We will be focusing on the


Care Bill. Domestic violence is on the increase. It has become a


priority for the newly elected police and crime commission. Let's


look at the figures from our police one force is tackling this problem.


First we have been to Leicester to talk to an adviser who works on the


frontline helping people who have been victims of violence from their


partners. She has seen an increase in people seeking help. I have been


supporting a lot of people. It is mostly women, but there are some men


that are in domestic violent relationships. There is somewhere


for them to go. With victim support you get the emotional support, you


get some practical support. Joining us to discuss this issue is the


deputy police and crime Commissioner for Nottinghamshire. You manage a


women 's aid charity before you took on this new post. You know it is a


big problem and when you know very well. This alarming rise in


Nottinghamshire, up more than 3000, what are you doing about it? I do


not think it is alarming. I think domestic violence is being reported.


What we know is that one in three women in this country experienced


domestic violence at some point in their lives. Is that alarming? It is


an exceptionally alarming number. But more people reporting to the


fleas can only be a good thing. are you doing about -- that doing


about it to stop it? It was one of the priorities and plan this year it


is a priority of the many police and crime Commissioner plans. It is all


about partnership working. It is about making sure that organisations


are funded properly, voluntary organisations. It is about making


men help by doing their part. It is about making sure that even


education and doing their part. Chris worked in women's aid. She has


come to this with all this experience. You left your job to


raise the profile of this very issue. I thought it was important


that I had listened to victims for seven years, and I bring that


prospective into the police and crime Commissioner's office. Money


matters and something like this. If you do not have money to fund these


projects, that affect that. Are you finding these projects. Yes, �40


million has been ring fenced. It is a real priority for government.


There are ministers such as Helen Grant and other MPs who have a


background in working in family law, understanding how difficult it can


be to deport and take action and get out of these difficult situations.


Once the money is allocated, it is up to the police and crime


Commissioner is to prioritise them. It has been a big priority in


Leicester. Iran's a charity called the maternity Alliance before I


became an MP and so how most new cases of domestic violence start


when women is pregnant. That can destroy the life chances of


children. So the NHS, health visitors have a rule. They say it as


a sign that more people are coming forward. You can make some very


practical changes. In pubs and clubs, in Leicester you can see


their phone numbers on the back of toilet doors. We all have to play


our part. I think lots of organisations and agencies are


getting results. People are asking all the time if women are safe, if


they feel safe, if anyone has hurt them. It is a standard question that


midwives and health visitors now ask. We have a pilot of clear a


small at the moment. -- clears law. How many people are taking part?


have not got the figures on me. It is lesson we thought that would take


it up. There are lots of reasons that women do not take it up. It is


a complicated thing to do, it is very bureaucratic. And it doesn't


necessarily make women safer. It is only possible if the perpetrator has


got a conviction or is known to the police. The campaigns that are being


run, you need to access people, and following on from once the police


have taken the role, when it goes to the prosecuting authorities, there


is an in crease in conviction rates for domestic violence. We need to


learn from what we did with the use just a sport nationally. Dropped all


the partners together, set the minimum standards. We are looking at


whether we should have a similar thing for domestic violence. That


would make a difference in some parts of the country. It is


something we have not done in the past? We haven't done enough to get


the different agencies together. say that you are all working


together with the communities and you're more sensitive to these


issues. Is it making a difference? I think we have to wait awhile to see


what difference police crime Commissioner's make. It is on their


agenda is on their agendas to make sure that domestic violence these


priority. We want to see people as passionate as this woman across the


country. Then we might have a better chance of that if we have something


nationally, bringing all the different parties together. It is


also about accessing young people and making them away. If we also


include things like or worse of control, this is the reality, the


statute needs to move with the times. We have topped about how much


the police and crime Commissioner is a paying staff, how many they have


been recruiting. Are you all worth it? I hope we are all worth it. We


inherited staff from what was there before and the police authority. Our


office costs less than it did before. Thank you very much for


joining me. Let's take a closer look at another


measure in the Queens speech. It is one that will affect tens of


thousands of people dear in the East Midlands. Capping care costs for the


elderly. Liz Coleman has been finding out what it means for carers


here. I am going to talk to two people who


will feel the effects of the new changes in the care system.


Crossroads care provides health and support to over 600 carers in the


community. I know you are caring for your mum


and now it is your dad. What are the hard facts and terms of the care


system? There are almost 7 million carers in the UK at the present


time. They are people who are caring for a friend or a relative at home


and that individual has also served temporary or permanent disability.


Those carers are saving our economy around about �119 billion a year.


The new Care Bill, is that a positive? It is a positive, yes. Up


until now the assessment process, needs assessment, which then


includes allocation of services, a that focus to ensure that the killer


is equally as in that process. I think one of the biggest issues we


have is to try and raise awareness to the point where these carers know


that they are entitled to have some support. -- Taylor. -- the Keeler.


If they do not have a good family network. If they have not got


friends and neither is who rally round and for, you wouldn't call.


there is one more thing that the government is can help some delight


yourself, Christine, what would that be? The easy answer to that question


is more money, of course it is. But for many years the health service


and social care services have not been worked -- working in


partnership together. It is very clear that when all health


professionals, whether that be in social care or in the hospitals,


when they come together and look at the provision of health and the peer


services, there are innovative ways of providing clear services that are


much more cost-effective. -- care as they are. They are trying to go in


the right direction, but worries me is it is right having in place, but


this question of how you fund that, obviously if you are going to meet


carers needs. --, as proposed in the bill, the money has to come from


somewhere to find the ways of supporting those carers. We are in a


recession. Things are being cut. So where are they going to get the


money from to implement the bill and put it in place to actually make a


difference. Lots of questions there. Patricia is someone who has cared


for both of her parents. Is that something she should have? This is


such a huge and important bill. Common-sense has prevailed. We have


60 years of legislation, over a dozen acts of Parliament, at long


last it has been put together so the carers and the caring -- the people


who are being cared for, have been put together to make sure they are


looked after. I have confidence that parliamentarians will have a period


of time to go through that Bill. It is cross-party that this is a


sensible way forward. The devil is in the detail, we have got to get


this right. With your brief, Liz, you must be pleased that this has


been pushed up the political agenda? The former Labour government


initiated the review of the legislation that is now led this


Bill. I am determined to make sure that people and their family carers


get the best possible deal out of it. But this legislation on its own


will not solve the desperate crisis that is engulfing care in this


country. I think we need a much bigger and bolder response. In parts


of the country where there have been joined at services in one system,


which we are proposing, one single care system covering the NHS. They


have realised that if they help carers do what they want to do,


which is look after their loved one, it is better for them, the person


they care for and it saves money. Families, caring for the way they do


for their loved ones at home, you would be worse off. They are doing


it themselves voluntarily. What this bill is trying to do is to get the


right balance. Yes, family members are involved in caring. What local


authorities are providing has got to be correct. We need to get it right.


Services are being cut by a third. I don't think the government realises


the sheer scale of the crisis that is happening. There is a way


forward, one system that looks at people's health and social care


needs together. We should have one point of access, one phone number,


one source of information for people not having to tell the story many


times. We topped about a cap, we heard it was 72 thousand pounds. But


it was not spelt out in the Queens speech. That is the figure that I


have heard. That is why now we have, over the next weeks and


months, we will have a detailed debate now about the detail of


everything in the Queens speech. People at the moment are facing


selling their homes. The cat does not cover your fool care costs. The


way that it works is that the first person to benefit will not be until


four or five years into the next Parliament. That is a long way away,


and in the meantime people are suffering. We need to do something


now to tackle the real crisis and care. I would say that the last


government had 13 years to progress this matter. At least now we are


getting on with it. This is urgent, isn't it? Will this Bill clear all


these solutions up once and for all? -- this confusion. It is very easy


to frighten people and start saying that things are still going to be


just as bad. I don't think that is the most constructive approach. We


have to have the detail on this. They want to know what you will be


doing! That is why we will be debating it at great length in the


House of Commons, and I very much look forward to doing that. The


Secretary of State has then looking at that. -- Secretary of State for


health. When they realised... We do not know what it will be.


Christine Alexander the chief executive of Crossroads care has a


question for both of you on another care issue. There are 700,000 young


carers in this country and they are not mentioned in the bill. What can


be done for them to make sure they are protected from the caring role?


What can you do for these young carers? I think this is an issue


that is going to have more involvement cross-party. It is


definitely going to be raised. I will be raising it, I will be happy


to do so. We have been looking at children who need extra support in


schools. I think the voice of children and their contribution in


society is coming more to the fore. This is an important issue and I


look forward to raising it. At the -- lever back bench are brought


forward -- a Labour backbencher brought an issue forward. We on the


Labour side will be pushing for them. I hope we can get some


movement out of the government. Brits have organised themselves to


help their -- groups in Leicester have organised themselves to be able


to help each other. A private members bill raised by opposition,


is not likely to make much progress. But we have a real opportunity here.


I hope you are right. Now for a round-up of the other political


stories in the East Midlands this week. Here is John Hess.


News that bombard DA of Derby has won an �88 million contract to make


real courage is for the London network has been welcomed. -- real


carriages. Anna Suu Kyi has criticised what she calls appalling


leaflets from UKIP in the county council elections. -- Anna Soubry.


The pomp and ceremony of the Queens speech was accompanied by another


division. Royal mail for sale. Queens head privatised. His bar has


become a political hit on the Internet.


Dennis Skinner there. Have you both got a busy week, ladies? All sorts


to do. I have got my constituency this week. I have a baking class


with children, which has to be good fun. Monday is the launch of the big


furniture federation. Then down to Westminster, so very busy.


biggest thing for me this week is on Monday we have a debate about health


and social care as part of the Queens speech. I will be closing


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