12/05/2013 Sunday Politics East Midlands


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violence on the increase. What is being done? Will the new care will

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ease the cost of looking after your violence on the increase and future

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funding uncertain. And more money for carers. Why have a legislation

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in place. But the question of how you fund that. Jessica Lee and Liz

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Kendall join me today. The big story this week has been the Queen's

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speech. The announcement around social care will be of particular

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interest to those. Jessica, what is there in that speech that will

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directly help us here in the East Midlands? There are lots of points

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in the speech. The key issue is immigration for me and for my

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constituents. The reason why that is important because it goes to

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measures to tackle things like private landlords, making sure they

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get references on people's immigration status. These affect

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issues with people seeking housing as well as the wider policy issues

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for the country, like deportation measures. Is that something you

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wanted to hear? What I wanted to hear is some proper action to get

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growth in this region. We have got so many of our young people who are

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unemployed. Young people have been unemployed for more than a year have

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gone up by more than a quarter, just as they have gone up in Lincoln and

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Sherwood. Those young people deserve a better chance and life. Do you

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think people are not interested in immigration? They are, they want

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tough and fair system. But they also want jobs and growth so they can pay

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their bills and that young people have a future. Are your priorities

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wrong? I disagree with what she has said. The measures for tackling

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immigration will help people. The second point is that the government

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is absolutely giving top priority to jobs and helping people get into

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work. That is why we had a jobs fair last year in which over 1000 people

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attended. I will have another one later this year. All these issues

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are to help businesses employ people. We will be focusing on the

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Care Bill. Domestic violence is on the increase. It has become a

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priority for the newly elected police and crime commission. Let's

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look at the figures from our police one force is tackling this problem.

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First we have been to Leicester to talk to an adviser who works on the

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frontline helping people who have been victims of violence from their

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partners. She has seen an increase in people seeking help. I have been

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supporting a lot of people. It is mostly women, but there are some men

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that are in domestic violent relationships. There is somewhere

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for them to go. With victim support you get the emotional support, you

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get some practical support. Joining us to discuss this issue is the

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deputy police and crime Commissioner for Nottinghamshire. You manage a

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women 's aid charity before you took on this new post. You know it is a

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big problem and when you know very well. This alarming rise in

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Nottinghamshire, up more than 3000, what are you doing about it? I do

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not think it is alarming. I think domestic violence is being reported.

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What we know is that one in three women in this country experienced

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domestic violence at some point in their lives. Is that alarming? It is

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an exceptionally alarming number. But more people reporting to the

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fleas can only be a good thing. are you doing about -- that doing

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about it to stop it? It was one of the priorities and plan this year it

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is a priority of the many police and crime Commissioner plans. It is all

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about partnership working. It is about making sure that organisations

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are funded properly, voluntary organisations. It is about making

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men help by doing their part. It is about making sure that even

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education and doing their part. Chris worked in women's aid. She has

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come to this with all this experience. You left your job to

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raise the profile of this very issue. I thought it was important

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that I had listened to victims for seven years, and I bring that

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prospective into the police and crime Commissioner's office. Money

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matters and something like this. If you do not have money to fund these

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projects, that affect that. Are you finding these projects. Yes, �40

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million has been ring fenced. It is a real priority for government.

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There are ministers such as Helen Grant and other MPs who have a

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background in working in family law, understanding how difficult it can

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be to deport and take action and get out of these difficult situations.

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Once the money is allocated, it is up to the police and crime

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Commissioner is to prioritise them. It has been a big priority in

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Leicester. Iran's a charity called the maternity Alliance before I

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became an MP and so how most new cases of domestic violence start

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when women is pregnant. That can destroy the life chances of

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children. So the NHS, health visitors have a rule. They say it as

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a sign that more people are coming forward. You can make some very

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practical changes. In pubs and clubs, in Leicester you can see

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their phone numbers on the back of toilet doors. We all have to play

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our part. I think lots of organisations and agencies are

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getting results. People are asking all the time if women are safe, if

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they feel safe, if anyone has hurt them. It is a standard question that

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midwives and health visitors now ask. We have a pilot of clear a

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small at the moment. -- clears law. How many people are taking part?

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have not got the figures on me. It is lesson we thought that would take

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it up. There are lots of reasons that women do not take it up. It is

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a complicated thing to do, it is very bureaucratic. And it doesn't

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necessarily make women safer. It is only possible if the perpetrator has

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got a conviction or is known to the police. The campaigns that are being

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run, you need to access people, and following on from once the police

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have taken the role, when it goes to the prosecuting authorities, there

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is an in crease in conviction rates for domestic violence. We need to

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learn from what we did with the use just a sport nationally. Dropped all

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the partners together, set the minimum standards. We are looking at

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whether we should have a similar thing for domestic violence. That

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would make a difference in some parts of the country. It is

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something we have not done in the past? We haven't done enough to get

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the different agencies together. say that you are all working

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together with the communities and you're more sensitive to these

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issues. Is it making a difference? I think we have to wait awhile to see

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what difference police crime Commissioner's make. It is on their

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agenda is on their agendas to make sure that domestic violence these

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priority. We want to see people as passionate as this woman across the

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country. Then we might have a better chance of that if we have something

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nationally, bringing all the different parties together. It is

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also about accessing young people and making them away. If we also

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include things like or worse of control, this is the reality, the

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statute needs to move with the times. We have topped about how much

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the police and crime Commissioner is a paying staff, how many they have

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been recruiting. Are you all worth it? I hope we are all worth it. We

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inherited staff from what was there before and the police authority. Our

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office costs less than it did before. Thank you very much for

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joining me. Let's take a closer look at another

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measure in the Queens speech. It is one that will affect tens of

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thousands of people dear in the East Midlands. Capping care costs for the

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elderly. Liz Coleman has been finding out what it means for carers

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here. I am going to talk to two people who

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will feel the effects of the new changes in the care system.

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Crossroads care provides health and support to over 600 carers in the

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community. I know you are caring for your mum

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and now it is your dad. What are the hard facts and terms of the care

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system? There are almost 7 million carers in the UK at the present

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time. They are people who are caring for a friend or a relative at home

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and that individual has also served temporary or permanent disability.

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Those carers are saving our economy around about �119 billion a year.

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The new Care Bill, is that a positive? It is a positive, yes. Up

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until now the assessment process, needs assessment, which then

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includes allocation of services, a that focus to ensure that the killer

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is equally as in that process. I think one of the biggest issues we

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have is to try and raise awareness to the point where these carers know

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that they are entitled to have some support. -- Taylor. -- the Keeler.

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If they do not have a good family network. If they have not got

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friends and neither is who rally round and for, you wouldn't call.

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there is one more thing that the government is can help some delight

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yourself, Christine, what would that be? The easy answer to that question

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is more money, of course it is. But for many years the health service

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and social care services have not been worked -- working in

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partnership together. It is very clear that when all health

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professionals, whether that be in social care or in the hospitals,

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when they come together and look at the provision of health and the peer

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services, there are innovative ways of providing clear services that are

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much more cost-effective. -- care as they are. They are trying to go in

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the right direction, but worries me is it is right having in place, but

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this question of how you fund that, obviously if you are going to meet

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carers needs. --, as proposed in the bill, the money has to come from

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somewhere to find the ways of supporting those carers. We are in a

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recession. Things are being cut. So where are they going to get the

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money from to implement the bill and put it in place to actually make a

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difference. Lots of questions there. Patricia is someone who has cared

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for both of her parents. Is that something she should have? This is

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such a huge and important bill. Common-sense has prevailed. We have

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60 years of legislation, over a dozen acts of Parliament, at long

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last it has been put together so the carers and the caring -- the people

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who are being cared for, have been put together to make sure they are

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looked after. I have confidence that parliamentarians will have a period

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of time to go through that Bill. It is cross-party that this is a

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sensible way forward. The devil is in the detail, we have got to get

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this right. With your brief, Liz, you must be pleased that this has

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been pushed up the political agenda? The former Labour government

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initiated the review of the legislation that is now led this

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Bill. I am determined to make sure that people and their family carers

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get the best possible deal out of it. But this legislation on its own

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will not solve the desperate crisis that is engulfing care in this

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country. I think we need a much bigger and bolder response. In parts

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of the country where there have been joined at services in one system,

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which we are proposing, one single care system covering the NHS. They

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have realised that if they help carers do what they want to do,

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which is look after their loved one, it is better for them, the person

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they care for and it saves money. Families, caring for the way they do

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for their loved ones at home, you would be worse off. They are doing

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it themselves voluntarily. What this bill is trying to do is to get the

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right balance. Yes, family members are involved in caring. What local

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authorities are providing has got to be correct. We need to get it right.

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Services are being cut by a third. I don't think the government realises

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the sheer scale of the crisis that is happening. There is a way

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forward, one system that looks at people's health and social care

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needs together. We should have one point of access, one phone number,

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one source of information for people not having to tell the story many

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times. We topped about a cap, we heard it was 72 thousand pounds. But

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it was not spelt out in the Queens speech. That is the figure that I

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have heard. That is why now we have, over the next weeks and

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months, we will have a detailed debate now about the detail of

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everything in the Queens speech. People at the moment are facing

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selling their homes. The cat does not cover your fool care costs. The

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way that it works is that the first person to benefit will not be until

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four or five years into the next Parliament. That is a long way away,

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and in the meantime people are suffering. We need to do something

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now to tackle the real crisis and care. I would say that the last

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government had 13 years to progress this matter. At least now we are

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getting on with it. This is urgent, isn't it? Will this Bill clear all

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these solutions up once and for all? -- this confusion. It is very easy

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to frighten people and start saying that things are still going to be

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just as bad. I don't think that is the most constructive approach. We

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have to have the detail on this. They want to know what you will be

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doing! That is why we will be debating it at great length in the

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House of Commons, and I very much look forward to doing that. The

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Secretary of State has then looking at that. -- Secretary of State for

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health. When they realised... We do not know what it will be.

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Christine Alexander the chief executive of Crossroads care has a

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question for both of you on another care issue. There are 700,000 young

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carers in this country and they are not mentioned in the bill. What can

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be done for them to make sure they are protected from the caring role?

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What can you do for these young carers? I think this is an issue

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that is going to have more involvement cross-party. It is

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definitely going to be raised. I will be raising it, I will be happy

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to do so. We have been looking at children who need extra support in

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schools. I think the voice of children and their contribution in

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society is coming more to the fore. This is an important issue and I

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look forward to raising it. At the -- lever back bench are brought

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forward -- a Labour backbencher brought an issue forward. We on the

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Labour side will be pushing for them. I hope we can get some

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movement out of the government. Brits have organised themselves to

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help their -- groups in Leicester have organised themselves to be able

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to help each other. A private members bill raised by opposition,

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is not likely to make much progress. But we have a real opportunity here.

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I hope you are right. Now for a round-up of the other political

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stories in the East Midlands this week. Here is John Hess.

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News that bombard DA of Derby has won an �88 million contract to make

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real courage is for the London network has been welcomed. -- real

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carriages. Anna Suu Kyi has criticised what she calls appalling

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leaflets from UKIP in the county council elections. -- Anna Soubry.

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The pomp and ceremony of the Queens speech was accompanied by another

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division. Royal mail for sale. Queens head privatised. His bar has

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become a political hit on the Internet.

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Dennis Skinner there. Have you both got a busy week, ladies? All sorts

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to do. I have got my constituency this week. I have a baking class

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with children, which has to be good fun. Monday is the launch of the big

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furniture federation. Then down to Westminster, so very busy.

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biggest thing for me this week is on Monday we have a debate about health

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and social care as part of the Queens speech. I will be closing

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