12/05/2013 Sunday Politics East Midlands

violence on the increase. What is being done? Will the new care will

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ease the cost of looking after your violence on the increase and future

funding uncertain. And more money for carers. Why have a legislation

in place. But the question of how you fund that. Jessica Lee and Liz

Kendall join me today. The big story this week has been the Queen's

speech. The announcement around social care will be of particular

interest to those. Jessica, what is there in that speech that will

directly help us here in the East Midlands? There are lots of points

in the speech. The key issue is immigration for me and for my

constituents. The reason why that is important because it goes to

measures to tackle things like private landlords, making sure they

get references on people's immigration status. These affect

issues with people seeking housing as well as the wider policy issues

for the country, like deportation measures. Is that something you

wanted to hear? What I wanted to hear is some proper action to get

growth in this region. We have got so many of our young people who are

unemployed. Young people have been unemployed for more than a year have

gone up by more than a quarter, just as they have gone up in Lincoln and

Sherwood. Those young people deserve a better chance and life. Do you

think people are not interested in immigration? They are, they want

tough and fair system. But they also want jobs and growth so they can pay

their bills and that young people have a future. Are your priorities

wrong? I disagree with what she has said. The measures for tackling

immigration will help people. The second point is that the government

is absolutely giving top priority to jobs and helping people get into

work. That is why we had a jobs fair last year in which over 1000 people

attended. I will have another one later this year. All these issues

are to help businesses employ people. We will be focusing on the

Care Bill. Domestic violence is on the increase. It has become a

priority for the newly elected police and crime commission. Let's

look at the figures from our police one force is tackling this problem.

First we have been to Leicester to talk to an adviser who works on the

frontline helping people who have been victims of violence from their

partners. She has seen an increase in people seeking help. I have been

supporting a lot of people. It is mostly women, but there are some men

that are in domestic violent relationships. There is somewhere

for them to go. With victim support you get the emotional support, you

get some practical support. Joining us to discuss this issue is the

deputy police and crime Commissioner for Nottinghamshire. You manage a

women 's aid charity before you took on this new post. You know it is a

big problem and when you know very well. This alarming rise in

Nottinghamshire, up more than 3000, what are you doing about it? I do

not think it is alarming. I think domestic violence is being reported.

What we know is that one in three women in this country experienced

domestic violence at some point in their lives. Is that alarming? It is

an exceptionally alarming number. But more people reporting to the

fleas can only be a good thing. are you doing about -- that doing

about it to stop it? It was one of the priorities and plan this year it

is a priority of the many police and crime Commissioner plans. It is all

about partnership working. It is about making sure that organisations

are funded properly, voluntary organisations. It is about making

men help by doing their part. It is about making sure that even

education and doing their part. Chris worked in women's aid. She has

come to this with all this experience. You left your job to

raise the profile of this very issue. I thought it was important

that I had listened to victims for seven years, and I bring that

prospective into the police and crime Commissioner's office. Money

matters and something like this. If you do not have money to fund these

projects, that affect that. Are you finding these projects. Yes, �40

million has been ring fenced. It is a real priority for government.

There are ministers such as Helen Grant and other MPs who have a

background in working in family law, understanding how difficult it can

be to deport and take action and get out of these difficult situations.

Once the money is allocated, it is up to the police and crime

Commissioner is to prioritise them. It has been a big priority in

Leicester. Iran's a charity called the maternity Alliance before I

became an MP and so how most new cases of domestic violence start

when women is pregnant. That can destroy the life chances of

children. So the NHS, health visitors have a rule. They say it as

a sign that more people are coming forward. You can make some very

practical changes. In pubs and clubs, in Leicester you can see

their phone numbers on the back of toilet doors. We all have to play

our part. I think lots of organisations and agencies are

getting results. People are asking all the time if women are safe, if

they feel safe, if anyone has hurt them. It is a standard question that

midwives and health visitors now ask. We have a pilot of clear a

small at the moment. -- clears law. How many people are taking part?

have not got the figures on me. It is lesson we thought that would take

it up. There are lots of reasons that women do not take it up. It is

a complicated thing to do, it is very bureaucratic. And it doesn't

necessarily make women safer. It is only possible if the perpetrator has

got a conviction or is known to the police. The campaigns that are being

run, you need to access people, and following on from once the police

have taken the role, when it goes to the prosecuting authorities, there

is an in crease in conviction rates for domestic violence. We need to

learn from what we did with the use just a sport nationally. Dropped all

the partners together, set the minimum standards. We are looking at

whether we should have a similar thing for domestic violence. That

would make a difference in some parts of the country. It is

something we have not done in the past? We haven't done enough to get

the different agencies together. say that you are all working

together with the communities and you're more sensitive to these

issues. Is it making a difference? I think we have to wait awhile to see

what difference police crime Commissioner's make. It is on their

agenda is on their agendas to make sure that domestic violence these

priority. We want to see people as passionate as this woman across the

country. Then we might have a better chance of that if we have something

nationally, bringing all the different parties together. It is

also about accessing young people and making them away. If we also

include things like or worse of control, this is the reality, the

statute needs to move with the times. We have topped about how much

the police and crime Commissioner is a paying staff, how many they have

been recruiting. Are you all worth it? I hope we are all worth it. We

inherited staff from what was there before and the police authority. Our

office costs less than it did before. Thank you very much for

joining me. Let's take a closer look at another

measure in the Queens speech. It is one that will affect tens of

thousands of people dear in the East Midlands. Capping care costs for the

elderly. Liz Coleman has been finding out what it means for carers

here. I am going to talk to two people who

will feel the effects of the new changes in the care system.

Crossroads care provides health and support to over 600 carers in the

community. I know you are caring for your mum

and now it is your dad. What are the hard facts and terms of the care

system? There are almost 7 million carers in the UK at the present

time. They are people who are caring for a friend or a relative at home

and that individual has also served temporary or permanent disability.

Those carers are saving our economy around about �119 billion a year.

The new Care Bill, is that a positive? It is a positive, yes. Up

until now the assessment process, needs assessment, which then

includes allocation of services, a that focus to ensure that the killer

is equally as in that process. I think one of the biggest issues we

have is to try and raise awareness to the point where these carers know

that they are entitled to have some support. -- Taylor. -- the Keeler.

If they do not have a good family network. If they have not got

friends and neither is who rally round and for, you wouldn't call.

there is one more thing that the government is can help some delight

yourself, Christine, what would that be? The easy answer to that question

is more money, of course it is. But for many years the health service

and social care services have not been worked -- working in

partnership together. It is very clear that when all health

professionals, whether that be in social care or in the hospitals,

when they come together and look at the provision of health and the peer

services, there are innovative ways of providing clear services that are

much more cost-effective. -- care as they are. They are trying to go in

the right direction, but worries me is it is right having in place, but

this question of how you fund that, obviously if you are going to meet

carers needs. --, as proposed in the bill, the money has to come from

somewhere to find the ways of supporting those carers. We are in a

recession. Things are being cut. So where are they going to get the

money from to implement the bill and put it in place to actually make a

difference. Lots of questions there. Patricia is someone who has cared

for both of her parents. Is that something she should have? This is

such a huge and important bill. Common-sense has prevailed. We have

60 years of legislation, over a dozen acts of Parliament, at long

last it has been put together so the carers and the caring -- the people

who are being cared for, have been put together to make sure they are

looked after. I have confidence that parliamentarians will have a period

of time to go through that Bill. It is cross-party that this is a

sensible way forward. The devil is in the detail, we have got to get

this right. With your brief, Liz, you must be pleased that this has

been pushed up the political agenda? The former Labour government

initiated the review of the legislation that is now led this

Bill. I am determined to make sure that people and their family carers

get the best possible deal out of it. But this legislation on its own

will not solve the desperate crisis that is engulfing care in this

country. I think we need a much bigger and bolder response. In parts

of the country where there have been joined at services in one system,

which we are proposing, one single care system covering the NHS. They

have realised that if they help carers do what they want to do,

which is look after their loved one, it is better for them, the person

they care for and it saves money. Families, caring for the way they do

for their loved ones at home, you would be worse off. They are doing

it themselves voluntarily. What this bill is trying to do is to get the

right balance. Yes, family members are involved in caring. What local

authorities are providing has got to be correct. We need to get it right.

Services are being cut by a third. I don't think the government realises

the sheer scale of the crisis that is happening. There is a way

forward, one system that looks at people's health and social care

needs together. We should have one point of access, one phone number,

one source of information for people not having to tell the story many

times. We topped about a cap, we heard it was 72 thousand pounds. But

it was not spelt out in the Queens speech. That is the figure that I

have heard. That is why now we have, over the next weeks and

months, we will have a detailed debate now about the detail of

everything in the Queens speech. People at the moment are facing

selling their homes. The cat does not cover your fool care costs. The

way that it works is that the first person to benefit will not be until

four or five years into the next Parliament. That is a long way away,

and in the meantime people are suffering. We need to do something

now to tackle the real crisis and care. I would say that the last

government had 13 years to progress this matter. At least now we are

getting on with it. This is urgent, isn't it? Will this Bill clear all

these solutions up once and for all? -- this confusion. It is very easy

to frighten people and start saying that things are still going to be

just as bad. I don't think that is the most constructive approach. We

have to have the detail on this. They want to know what you will be

doing! That is why we will be debating it at great length in the

House of Commons, and I very much look forward to doing that. The

Secretary of State has then looking at that. -- Secretary of State for

health. When they realised... We do not know what it will be.

Christine Alexander the chief executive of Crossroads care has a

question for both of you on another care issue. There are 700,000 young

carers in this country and they are not mentioned in the bill. What can

be done for them to make sure they are protected from the caring role?

What can you do for these young carers? I think this is an issue

that is going to have more involvement cross-party. It is

definitely going to be raised. I will be raising it, I will be happy

to do so. We have been looking at children who need extra support in

schools. I think the voice of children and their contribution in

society is coming more to the fore. This is an important issue and I

look forward to raising it. At the -- lever back bench are brought

forward -- a Labour backbencher brought an issue forward. We on the

Labour side will be pushing for them. I hope we can get some

movement out of the government. Brits have organised themselves to

help their -- groups in Leicester have organised themselves to be able

to help each other. A private members bill raised by opposition,

is not likely to make much progress. But we have a real opportunity here.

I hope you are right. Now for a round-up of the other political

stories in the East Midlands this week. Here is John Hess.

News that bombard DA of Derby has won an �88 million contract to make

real courage is for the London network has been welcomed. -- real

carriages. Anna Suu Kyi has criticised what she calls appalling

leaflets from UKIP in the county council elections. -- Anna Soubry.

The pomp and ceremony of the Queens speech was accompanied by another

division. Royal mail for sale. Queens head privatised. His bar has

become a political hit on the Internet.

Dennis Skinner there. Have you both got a busy week, ladies? All sorts

to do. I have got my constituency this week. I have a baking class

with children, which has to be good fun. Monday is the launch of the big

furniture federation. Then down to Westminster, so very busy.

biggest thing for me this week is on Monday we have a debate about health

and social care as part of the Queens speech. I will be closing