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Here in the East Midlands. The conservative MP who is calling
for David Cameron to go. And why are we always bottom of the
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league when it comes to health and The conservative MP who is calling
for David Cameron to go. And why are we always bottom of the
league when it comes to health and wealth? The Government should look
at younger ages earlier and inform them about healthier ways to live.
Hello, I'm Marie Ashby and hoping to lift the gloom a little, my guests
this week, the Conservative MP for North West Leicestershire, Andrew
Bridgen and Labour's MP for Leicester South, Jon Ashworth.
Well, Andrew, you have been rather busy causing quite a stir this week,
calling for a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister in a letter to
the 1922 Backbench Committee? wrote that many weeks ago and
informed many people, including the whip's office. That became public
knowledge at the weekend. It was leaked to a national newspaper, it
has caused a stir. It was a newsworthy item, I am disappointed
that it became public knowledge, it should have been confidential.
now he knows you don't want him to be there? Yes, he knows that. But
the thought of having Ed Miliband and Ed Balls in is distressing. But
I do think that mistakes have been made.
Well, as you might expect, Labour have made a lot of this. Looks like
you've got one thing in common now, Jon, you both want David Cameron
out! Absolutely, he has let people down, the economy is in the doldrums
and there is a huge squeeze. But I have to say, they have leaked his
name, what a terrible way to treat a member. I am up for it, I would not
treat our members this way. You have been let down? We will never find
out how it was leaked, now unwell admit it. That's not know one will
admit it. What is the difference between Ed and David? Labour have
largely accepted the austerity measures. We have a different set of
priorities, we want more investment in housing and capital
infrastructure, the other different approach to the economy. It will be
borrowing and spending and labourer. We worry about reducing the
deficit. You are not producing it though! . We are interested in
economy and jobs where I am MP. One of those tangents can create,
politically, situation we did not have to go to. Whatever way someone
votes, you will lose voters. It was unnecessary and politically not
about the issue of same sex marriage. It was very wrong.
next election will be about economy and jobs, I agree. But you are going
massive deficit at the next election. And your party voted
against the deficit reduction plan so far. You will never agree on that
one. Another East Midlands MP who has
been a bit of a problem for David Cameron is Patrick Mercer. The
Newark MP who has resigned from the Conservative Party Whip is now an
independent. He has referred himself to the Parliamentary Standards
Commissioner over allegations that he established an all-party
parliamentary group on Fiji after being contacted by undercover
reporters posing as lobbyists. It has split opinion in his
constituency. Sunday Politics reporter, Rob Pittam, has been to
Newark to find out more. It may look peaceful enough, but
Newark's a town that has had more than its fear share of strife in the
past. It was besieged several times in the English Civil War before much
of the castle was destroyed. Patrick Mercer might have been
expected to adopt a siege mentality himself. He has told us he cannot
give interviews well the Parliamentary enquiry is underway
into his conduct. But he is holding regular surgeries here in the time.
He says he has been buoyed by the support of hundreds of well-wishers.
Among those supporters, Andrew Smith from the National Farmers Union.
have done my role for 20 years, in that time he has been above and
beyond the rest of the MPs in constituency business. I hope he can
carry on doing such a great job. Not everyone agrees, Graham Gustard
is a Newark-based businessman who has been appalled by the allegations
against the MP. Someone who is independent should be free of undue
influence and control, he is not significantly independent. He should
not be standing as an independent. It is a divide that is reflected
everywhere in the town. Do you think he's doing a good job?
Yes, we do. No, he hasn't. Has the but the family? Think he has gone
against everything in democracy. has this split the family? I have no
objection to him staying on. There is agreement on wanting to prevent
this happening in the future. MPs want to prevent other MPs from
taking on second jobs, or give a pay rise to avoid them getting a second
job. I do not think that is a good idea, ex-special leave with the
economy the way it is. -- especially. You should just behave
properly, ethically, and do what you were supposed to be doing. I think
they are getting enough now. Yes, I think they've had enough.
Not everyone, though, is against paying MPs more. We need people
getting a commensurate salary with those who are specialists in the
fields in industry. We want people with real life experience and not
just Oxford and Cambridge router its spending all of their life in --
graduates spending all of their life in university and then in
Westminster. And so Newark finds itself under attack again from an
increasingly hostile electorate. What has gone wrong here, is it down
to individual MPs or is there something wrong with the system that
makes the lobbyists so attractive to the MPs? He has played the price for
it so far, -- he has paid the price for it so far, it will go through
Parliament. Was it him was that the system? Let us not talk about him
specifically. Individual MPs to blame for this system? I think MPs
have to take some of the blame, we are responsible for our own actions.
But it was quite a shabby entrapment plan that caught him out. It will be
a plague on all our houses, no doubt about it. But now, he should not
have done it. Some interesting attitudes in Newark
to MPs being paid more there. Where do you stand on the issue? I do not
think that MPs should be paid more, we have real week jurors squeezed --
we have real wages squeezed already. I would not be in favour of that.
If we paid MPs more would it stop them from taking on outside work?
am not sure that many MPs are looking for work outside. Patrick
Mercer has done the right thing by putting through the committee, but
he did do the wrong thing. Is the money not enough? It is enough for
me. Is the answer to ban you all from doing it? I think we need to
look at it carefully because I know there are other MPs that have
outside jobs as barristers and other things.
You have got a thriving business, how do you find time to be an MP
too? My job has no links to what I do as an MP. You should maybe look
at people taking on interests after they have become a politician. My
job was there before I was a politician. There is a difference
between doing things anyway and then doing things when you have, chairman
or something like that. At the moment the rules are not clear on
that and I think they need to work at that. People are talking about
getting more ordinary people into politics, in fact you have, but are
using you want fewer people like yourself? Actually, yes. Yes I want
to see fewer Labour MPs. Get over it. Yes, we want more ordinary
people getting into Parliament. Absolutely. But how? We have to look
at selection procedures and political parties, we have to entice
people in. We'll flatter look at the hours. There is a debate over
whether the hours are family friendly. -- we also have to look at
the others. Some MPs are saying that nursery should be closed and turned
into a bar. -- that the nursery. What would you do to attract
ordinary people? Yes, we need to attract a cross-section of people.
There needs to be at least one MP that anyone can relate to in the
chamber. But we need to look at the salary package, the pension. As far
as this parliament is concerned, we know we signed up for, but they will
stay the same for this Parliament. Now, we East Midlanders might be
forgiven for feeling a little depressed this week - a whole pile
of reports have put us at the bottom for wealth, health and, well, just
about everything. Parts of our region are among the worst for how
long people live and one of our cities is said to be the poorest in
the country. We will find out what our politicians are doing about it
all in a moment. But first, Des Coleman has been on a not-so magical
MISERY tour. There is high and deployment during
Leicester and a high death rate. But what do you want politicians to do
about it? Think we need to attack younger ages earlier and inform them
about healthier lifestyles and ways to live. What should politicians do?
Scrap the chicken shops. It is a politician 's faults, everyone can
think for themselves. There is better news in Rutland. There are
very good figures here, it is a wealthy community. When it comes to
health, it is in the top ten. you can help to boost pride in the
area. Here we have a lot of events that a lot of local councillors are
involved in. I think that helps to make people feel better about where
they live. From a politician 's point of view, to try to pinpoint
something they could do, that is now. -- that is unmoved. Official
figures say that the lowest disposable income is here in
Nottingham. When it comes to health they are in the bottom ten. I would
not have thought it was such a deprived place having lived here for
years. I am sure there are areas with plums than we have. -- with
worse problems than we have. It is not down to the politicians. It is
not up to them to increase our life expectancy, it is up to people
themselves. Look after themselves, look after their health.
I am joined by Andrew Pritchard, who is the director for policy and
infrastructure for East Midlands Councils - an association of local
authorities in the region. Is it really as bad as all that?
data has been collected in a very localised basis. If you look at it
in generality, you could see that the whole of the East Bali -- the
whole of the East Midlands is out of step with the rest of England.
Are these figures accurate? It seems incredible that Nottingham is the
poorest city in the country and yet the Office for National Statistics
says average disposable income is less than �11,000. If you look at
the boundaries around Nottingham, around the city, it includes more
aware of the areas. There is a clear difference there. If you look at the
hall you get a different conclusion. That is not to say that there are
not challengers, clearly there are. -- if you look at the hall.
There is little doubt there are problems here. What are you as MPs,
particularly the ones in Government, doing about it? We had to drive
growth and employment. But I would disagree because people are moving
here for the quality-of-life, we have an improving population.
everyone feels the benefit of that. Unemployment fell in my constituency
last month. We have two private sector investments coming in the
next couple of years which will generate over 8000 new jobs. Is that
what you see over? I would say it is unbalanced here. Unemployment is
still high on my constituency. It came down by single figures last
month, but it is still higher than it was that the general election.
You can see across the East Midlands in different areas, there are still
levels of deprivation and problems in unemployment. When you look at
the regional growth fund figures which we spoke of, you have to look
further... You always say that MPs need to get together more on this,
are you? Absolutely. MPs do work together. We are all singing from
the same hence G8 -- from the same hymn sheet in this. We want to get
on with that. Any optimistic signs? There are some really good things
around our competitiveness in manufacturing and construction work.
That is really positive. There is good reason to think that there is a
good offer in the East Midlands, there is a good housing offered here
as well. What about big infrastructure? We look at the
electrification upgrade. There are roads that are infrastructure
priorities that are now happening. There is more to do. The initiative
that you have both been leading in the all-party MPs, we have to work
with that in the councils. If we can join that up that would be the
thing. Why is there a reason to be cheerful? Before these projects, in
schemes we are already drawing and near the top. -- already roaring.
What we need to do more of us more strategy. Things are quite localised
at the moment. Perhaps there is a role for more strategic engagement
between council leaders and MPs. Apparently Derbyshire has the best
figures in the country for a liver disease, that is good news. At the
latest figures show that unemployment is falling. There are
reasons to be cheerful. Yes, and in the West Midlands if you compare us
with them, they are significantly higher. The public affairs officer
for British Airways said that all new aeroplanes will have Rolls-Royce
engines which is good news for the East Midlands. Yes, we have great
manufacturers and lots of food manufacturing. A city like Lester
has export of food to the Middle East and India, even. We have lots
of day Brett and communities, and we should be building on that. Would
you like to see politicians shouting up more for the East Midlands?
I think that is what we might need to do. Often we do not tell the
story in the same way that other parts of the country do. Now that
the councils are very active. is always a lot of lobbyists coming
down from Yorkshire saying how good Yorkshire is, I think we should do
more of that. We wanted about the East Midlands. So when a UNIX
meeting? We just did, and we will meet again just before the summer.
What happened at the meeting? were at the ATM meeting to talk
about the election, it was agreed OPEC priority is the East Midlands
economy. -- that our big. We will keep pupils did.
Do you and conservative MPs get together on this? Can you
realistically do anything? People we spoke to are not sure that you can
and we have to take responsibility for ourselves.
Time for our regular round-up of some of the other political stories
here in the East Midlands this week in 60 seconds.
Ignore letters saying that you have to pay for a new fibre-optic of -- a
new fibre-optic cable, it is a scam. A man has been charged with the
explosion near this building. He was remanded in custody after the
explosion of the MP's offices in time.
Local MPs have welcomed a move to suspend the moving of Linfield
hospital's children's heart surgery. Will you ensure that quality of care
including survival rates which matters most to parents is central
to any decision about the future of the services? The future of heart
surgery in England will now be reviewed again, but it is still not
certain that Linfield will stay open. -- Glenfield.
It seems to be good news, will it make any difference? All parties
said that the review into moving line fields was needed. --
Glenfield. We are awaiting further details, for now it is good news.
Some centres will still have to close some way. That's back
somewhere. I think Jeremy Hunt was very brave to admit that the review
was initially flawed, stop it and give confidence to the staff working
in all these areas that their jobs are safe for now. We will have a new
review on the timescale is yet to be set out. We do not want a quick
answer, we want the right answer, it is too important. Does this just
prolong the agony? It is nothing to do with that, we need the right
answer. Is keeping a small centre like Glenfield the answer?
proposal to close that unit was the wrong proposal, that is what we are
seeing. This was not MPs jumping on a bandwagon, we were listening to
local opinions. It is Father's Day, happy Father's Day to both of you.