16/06/2013 Sunday Politics East Midlands


16/06/2013

Andrew Neil and Marie Ashby with the latest political news, interviews and debate, including the G8 and an interview with EDL leader Tommy Robinson.


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Here in the East Midlands. The conservative MP who is calling

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for David Cameron to go. And why are we always bottom of the

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2333 seconds

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league when it comes to health and The conservative MP who is calling

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for David Cameron to go. And why are we always bottom of the

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league when it comes to health and wealth? The Government should look

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at younger ages earlier and inform them about healthier ways to live.

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Hello, I'm Marie Ashby and hoping to lift the gloom a little, my guests

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this week, the Conservative MP for North West Leicestershire, Andrew

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Bridgen and Labour's MP for Leicester South, Jon Ashworth.

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Well, Andrew, you have been rather busy causing quite a stir this week,

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calling for a vote of no confidence in the Prime Minister in a letter to

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the 1922 Backbench Committee? wrote that many weeks ago and

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informed many people, including the whip's office. That became public

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knowledge at the weekend. It was leaked to a national newspaper, it

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has caused a stir. It was a newsworthy item, I am disappointed

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that it became public knowledge, it should have been confidential.

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now he knows you don't want him to be there? Yes, he knows that. But

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the thought of having Ed Miliband and Ed Balls in is distressing. But

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I do think that mistakes have been made.

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Well, as you might expect, Labour have made a lot of this. Looks like

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you've got one thing in common now, Jon, you both want David Cameron

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out! Absolutely, he has let people down, the economy is in the doldrums

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and there is a huge squeeze. But I have to say, they have leaked his

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name, what a terrible way to treat a member. I am up for it, I would not

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treat our members this way. You have been let down? We will never find

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out how it was leaked, now unwell admit it. That's not know one will

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admit it. What is the difference between Ed and David? Labour have

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largely accepted the austerity measures. We have a different set of

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priorities, we want more investment in housing and capital

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infrastructure, the other different approach to the economy. It will be

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borrowing and spending and labourer. We worry about reducing the

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deficit. You are not producing it though! . We are interested in

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economy and jobs where I am MP. One of those tangents can create,

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politically, situation we did not have to go to. Whatever way someone

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votes, you will lose voters. It was unnecessary and politically not

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about the issue of same sex marriage. It was very wrong.

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next election will be about economy and jobs, I agree. But you are going

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massive deficit at the next election. And your party voted

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against the deficit reduction plan so far. You will never agree on that

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one. Another East Midlands MP who has

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been a bit of a problem for David Cameron is Patrick Mercer. The

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Newark MP who has resigned from the Conservative Party Whip is now an

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independent. He has referred himself to the Parliamentary Standards

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Commissioner over allegations that he established an all-party

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parliamentary group on Fiji after being contacted by undercover

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reporters posing as lobbyists. It has split opinion in his

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constituency. Sunday Politics reporter, Rob Pittam, has been to

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Newark to find out more. It may look peaceful enough, but

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Newark's a town that has had more than its fear share of strife in the

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past. It was besieged several times in the English Civil War before much

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of the castle was destroyed. Patrick Mercer might have been

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expected to adopt a siege mentality himself. He has told us he cannot

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give interviews well the Parliamentary enquiry is underway

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into his conduct. But he is holding regular surgeries here in the time.

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He says he has been buoyed by the support of hundreds of well-wishers.

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Among those supporters, Andrew Smith from the National Farmers Union.

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have done my role for 20 years, in that time he has been above and

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beyond the rest of the MPs in constituency business. I hope he can

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carry on doing such a great job. Not everyone agrees, Graham Gustard

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is a Newark-based businessman who has been appalled by the allegations

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against the MP. Someone who is independent should be free of undue

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influence and control, he is not significantly independent. He should

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not be standing as an independent. It is a divide that is reflected

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everywhere in the town. Do you think he's doing a good job?

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Yes, we do. No, he hasn't. Has the but the family? Think he has gone

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against everything in democracy. has this split the family? I have no

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objection to him staying on. There is agreement on wanting to prevent

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this happening in the future. MPs want to prevent other MPs from

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taking on second jobs, or give a pay rise to avoid them getting a second

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job. I do not think that is a good idea, ex-special leave with the

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economy the way it is. -- especially. You should just behave

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properly, ethically, and do what you were supposed to be doing. I think

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they are getting enough now. Yes, I think they've had enough.

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Not everyone, though, is against paying MPs more. We need people

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getting a commensurate salary with those who are specialists in the

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fields in industry. We want people with real life experience and not

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just Oxford and Cambridge router its spending all of their life in --

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graduates spending all of their life in university and then in

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Westminster. And so Newark finds itself under attack again from an

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increasingly hostile electorate. What has gone wrong here, is it down

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to individual MPs or is there something wrong with the system that

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makes the lobbyists so attractive to the MPs? He has played the price for

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it so far, -- he has paid the price for it so far, it will go through

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Parliament. Was it him was that the system? Let us not talk about him

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specifically. Individual MPs to blame for this system? I think MPs

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have to take some of the blame, we are responsible for our own actions.

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But it was quite a shabby entrapment plan that caught him out. It will be

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a plague on all our houses, no doubt about it. But now, he should not

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have done it. Some interesting attitudes in Newark

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to MPs being paid more there. Where do you stand on the issue? I do not

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think that MPs should be paid more, we have real week jurors squeezed --

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we have real wages squeezed already. I would not be in favour of that.

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If we paid MPs more would it stop them from taking on outside work?

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am not sure that many MPs are looking for work outside. Patrick

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Mercer has done the right thing by putting through the committee, but

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he did do the wrong thing. Is the money not enough? It is enough for

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me. Is the answer to ban you all from doing it? I think we need to

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look at it carefully because I know there are other MPs that have

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outside jobs as barristers and other things.

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You have got a thriving business, how do you find time to be an MP

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too? My job has no links to what I do as an MP. You should maybe look

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at people taking on interests after they have become a politician. My

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job was there before I was a politician. There is a difference

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between doing things anyway and then doing things when you have, chairman

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or something like that. At the moment the rules are not clear on

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that and I think they need to work at that. People are talking about

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getting more ordinary people into politics, in fact you have, but are

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using you want fewer people like yourself? Actually, yes. Yes I want

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to see fewer Labour MPs. Get over it. Yes, we want more ordinary

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people getting into Parliament. Absolutely. But how? We have to look

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at selection procedures and political parties, we have to entice

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people in. We'll flatter look at the hours. There is a debate over

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whether the hours are family friendly. -- we also have to look at

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the others. Some MPs are saying that nursery should be closed and turned

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into a bar. -- that the nursery. What would you do to attract

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ordinary people? Yes, we need to attract a cross-section of people.

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There needs to be at least one MP that anyone can relate to in the

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chamber. But we need to look at the salary package, the pension. As far

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as this parliament is concerned, we know we signed up for, but they will

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stay the same for this Parliament. Now, we East Midlanders might be

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forgiven for feeling a little depressed this week - a whole pile

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of reports have put us at the bottom for wealth, health and, well, just

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about everything. Parts of our region are among the worst for how

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long people live and one of our cities is said to be the poorest in

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the country. We will find out what our politicians are doing about it

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all in a moment. But first, Des Coleman has been on a not-so magical

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MISERY tour. There is high and deployment during

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Leicester and a high death rate. But what do you want politicians to do

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about it? Think we need to attack younger ages earlier and inform them

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about healthier lifestyles and ways to live. What should politicians do?

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Scrap the chicken shops. It is a politician 's faults, everyone can

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think for themselves. There is better news in Rutland. There are

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very good figures here, it is a wealthy community. When it comes to

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health, it is in the top ten. you can help to boost pride in the

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area. Here we have a lot of events that a lot of local councillors are

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involved in. I think that helps to make people feel better about where

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they live. From a politician 's point of view, to try to pinpoint

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something they could do, that is now. -- that is unmoved. Official

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figures say that the lowest disposable income is here in

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Nottingham. When it comes to health they are in the bottom ten. I would

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not have thought it was such a deprived place having lived here for

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years. I am sure there are areas with plums than we have. -- with

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worse problems than we have. It is not down to the politicians. It is

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not up to them to increase our life expectancy, it is up to people

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themselves. Look after themselves, look after their health.

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I am joined by Andrew Pritchard, who is the director for policy and

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infrastructure for East Midlands Councils - an association of local

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authorities in the region. Is it really as bad as all that?

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data has been collected in a very localised basis. If you look at it

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in generality, you could see that the whole of the East Bali -- the

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whole of the East Midlands is out of step with the rest of England.

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Are these figures accurate? It seems incredible that Nottingham is the

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poorest city in the country and yet the Office for National Statistics

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says average disposable income is less than �11,000. If you look at

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the boundaries around Nottingham, around the city, it includes more

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aware of the areas. There is a clear difference there. If you look at the

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hall you get a different conclusion. That is not to say that there are

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not challengers, clearly there are. -- if you look at the hall.

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There is little doubt there are problems here. What are you as MPs,

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particularly the ones in Government, doing about it? We had to drive

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growth and employment. But I would disagree because people are moving

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here for the quality-of-life, we have an improving population.

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everyone feels the benefit of that. Unemployment fell in my constituency

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last month. We have two private sector investments coming in the

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next couple of years which will generate over 8000 new jobs. Is that

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what you see over? I would say it is unbalanced here. Unemployment is

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still high on my constituency. It came down by single figures last

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month, but it is still higher than it was that the general election.

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You can see across the East Midlands in different areas, there are still

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levels of deprivation and problems in unemployment. When you look at

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the regional growth fund figures which we spoke of, you have to look

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further... You always say that MPs need to get together more on this,

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are you? Absolutely. MPs do work together. We are all singing from

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the same hence G8 -- from the same hymn sheet in this. We want to get

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on with that. Any optimistic signs? There are some really good things

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around our competitiveness in manufacturing and construction work.

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That is really positive. There is good reason to think that there is a

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good offer in the East Midlands, there is a good housing offered here

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as well. What about big infrastructure? We look at the

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electrification upgrade. There are roads that are infrastructure

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priorities that are now happening. There is more to do. The initiative

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that you have both been leading in the all-party MPs, we have to work

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with that in the councils. If we can join that up that would be the

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thing. Why is there a reason to be cheerful? Before these projects, in

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schemes we are already drawing and near the top. -- already roaring.

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What we need to do more of us more strategy. Things are quite localised

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at the moment. Perhaps there is a role for more strategic engagement

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between council leaders and MPs. Apparently Derbyshire has the best

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figures in the country for a liver disease, that is good news. At the

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latest figures show that unemployment is falling. There are

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reasons to be cheerful. Yes, and in the West Midlands if you compare us

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with them, they are significantly higher. The public affairs officer

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for British Airways said that all new aeroplanes will have Rolls-Royce

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engines which is good news for the East Midlands. Yes, we have great

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manufacturers and lots of food manufacturing. A city like Lester

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has export of food to the Middle East and India, even. We have lots

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of day Brett and communities, and we should be building on that. Would

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you like to see politicians shouting up more for the East Midlands?

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I think that is what we might need to do. Often we do not tell the

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story in the same way that other parts of the country do. Now that

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the councils are very active. is always a lot of lobbyists coming

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down from Yorkshire saying how good Yorkshire is, I think we should do

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more of that. We wanted about the East Midlands. So when a UNIX

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meeting? We just did, and we will meet again just before the summer.

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What happened at the meeting? were at the ATM meeting to talk

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about the election, it was agreed OPEC priority is the East Midlands

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economy. -- that our big. We will keep pupils did.

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Do you and conservative MPs get together on this? Can you

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realistically do anything? People we spoke to are not sure that you can

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and we have to take responsibility for ourselves.

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Time for our regular round-up of some of the other political stories

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here in the East Midlands this week in 60 seconds.

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Ignore letters saying that you have to pay for a new fibre-optic of -- a

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new fibre-optic cable, it is a scam. A man has been charged with the

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explosion near this building. He was remanded in custody after the

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explosion of the MP's offices in time.

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Local MPs have welcomed a move to suspend the moving of Linfield

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hospital's children's heart surgery. Will you ensure that quality of care

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including survival rates which matters most to parents is central

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to any decision about the future of the services? The future of heart

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surgery in England will now be reviewed again, but it is still not

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certain that Linfield will stay open. -- Glenfield.

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It seems to be good news, will it make any difference? All parties

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said that the review into moving line fields was needed. --

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Glenfield. We are awaiting further details, for now it is good news.

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Some centres will still have to close some way. That's back

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somewhere. I think Jeremy Hunt was very brave to admit that the review

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was initially flawed, stop it and give confidence to the staff working

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in all these areas that their jobs are safe for now. We will have a new

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review on the timescale is yet to be set out. We do not want a quick

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answer, we want the right answer, it is too important. Does this just

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prolong the agony? It is nothing to do with that, we need the right

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answer. Is keeping a small centre like Glenfield the answer?

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proposal to close that unit was the wrong proposal, that is what we are

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seeing. This was not MPs jumping on a bandwagon, we were listening to

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local opinions. It is Father's Day, happy Father's Day to both of you.

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