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seatbelts for a transport special. First up, the case for HS2 and the | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
people now fighting to save their homes. | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
And get your cycling clips ready, as we look at the problems of getting | :01:39. | :01:49. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2215 seconds | :01:49. | :38:44. | |
seatbelts for a transport special. First up, the case for HS2 and the | :38:44. | :38:53. | |
people now fighting to save their homes. It is a shock, we know that | :38:53. | :39:03. | |
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they are going to go ahead with it whether we like it or not. | :39:12. | :39:15. | |
And get your cycling clips ready, as we look at the problems of getting | :39:15. | :39:19. | |
more of us onto our bikes.How do we make it safer? I broke my nose, I | :39:19. | :39:24. | |
cut through my lip, I have 52 stitches. I knocked out 60 -- six | :39:24. | :39:27. | |
teeth. My guests this week, the Derbyshire | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
Dales MP and Secretary of State for Transport, Patrick McLoughlin and | :39:30. | :39:32. | |
Nottingham South MP and Labour's shadow rail minister, Lilian | :39:32. | :39:37. | |
Greenwood. We 'll come to transport issues shortly, but first of all, | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
cigarettes: Lilian, what do you think is going on in government | :39:40. | :39:48. | |
after it shelved its plan on Friday for plain packaging for cigarettes? | :39:48. | :39:53. | |
I think it is incredibly disappointing. Tobacco smoking is | :39:53. | :39:58. | |
the number one public health issue in this city. 1000 people in | :39:58. | :40:02. | |
Nottingham will die in the next year as a result of smoking, and we need | :40:02. | :40:07. | |
to stop young people from taking up smoking. It is about protecting | :40:07. | :40:17. | |
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children. Was the government lent on by the big tobacco interests? | :40:17. | :40:19. | |
has been introduced in Australia, we'll see what the evidence is from | :40:19. | :40:23. | |
there before we take a final decision. We have announced we're | :40:23. | :40:27. | |
going to move forward with the fact you won't be able to display | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
cigarettes in shops, as you can't at the moment in supermarkets, but we | :40:31. | :40:38. | |
have taken measures to go forward. The position we are adopting is the | :40:38. | :40:45. | |
same as the last government. Anna Soubry says she wants more time for | :40:45. | :40:50. | |
consultation. Is that a good idea? While we are sitting around having | :40:50. | :40:56. | |
more time for consultation, young people are continuing to take up | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
smoking. They will develop ill-health or die as a result of | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
that. I think the last Labour government took strong action to try | :41:02. | :41:07. | |
to curb smoking because we know how dangerous it is. I think the rest of | :41:07. | :41:12. | |
the world is looking at introducing these measures and it is wasteful. | :41:12. | :41:20. | |
In principle, are you in favour of plain packaging? I would like to see | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
how it works in Australia, whether it does have an impact. I supported | :41:23. | :41:31. | |
the ban on smoking in public places, so it was a cross-party vote, I | :41:31. | :41:38. | |
would like to see the evidence. Now, probably the biggest file in | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
Patrick McLoughlin's intray is the one marked HS2 - judging by your | :41:41. | :41:44. | |
tweets and emails to us, it's certainly a story that gets a | :41:44. | :41:47. | |
massive reaction from you. In a moment the anti-HS2 campaign will be | :41:47. | :41:51. | |
putting their case directly to the minister. But first Wesley Mallin | :41:51. | :42:01. | |
looks at the winners, and losers, in this grand project. So, HS2, | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
technology of the future, vital boost the economy a giant white | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
elephant stampeding through the countryside gobbling up tens of | :42:08. | :42:15. | |
billions of pounds of cash? That is certainly the view here in Long | :42:15. | :42:21. | |
Eaton. HS2 would come right down this road, requiring levelling all | :42:21. | :42:26. | |
of these houses. For residents around here, it is not so much not | :42:26. | :42:32. | |
in my backyard as, not through my front room. Valerie he'd lived here | :42:32. | :42:42. | |
for over 20 years. She will get the value of her home plus 10%. We will | :42:42. | :42:49. | |
get �40,000 compensation for a �400,000 house. My stress is no more | :42:49. | :42:56. | |
different than what their stresses. It is not just bricks and mortar, it | :42:56. | :43:00. | |
might be to them but it is not when you have spent 26 years and you have | :43:00. | :43:05. | |
good neighbours, an old lady next door, I look after her. She sees to | :43:05. | :43:10. | |
me, I have family around here. I see to my mother who lives five streets | :43:10. | :43:17. | |
away. I'm not to be able to afford new mortgage. But for every home | :43:17. | :43:22. | |
being flattened up the track, there is a business waiting to cash in. | :43:22. | :43:28. | |
For our particular content... Lee 's firm is met a lot of money | :43:28. | :43:31. | |
out of the revamp and stands to make much more if it makes a successful | :43:31. | :43:40. | |
raid on HS2. It is major opportunity. There are others along | :43:40. | :43:43. | |
a pathway but clearly when it arrives, there is a competition for | :43:44. | :43:49. | |
it. It is not guaranteed we will win it but given the scope of the work, | :43:49. | :43:53. | |
it is clearly a major opportunity and something that will knock on in | :43:53. | :44:00. | |
terms of employment. This man has seen all the oddments and comes down | :44:00. | :44:08. | |
just in favour of the big-money project. -- arguments. However, we | :44:08. | :44:14. | |
do have to be wary of the increasing costs, some of the media are hyping | :44:14. | :44:18. | |
this up based on the fact that many projects have overrun in recent | :44:18. | :44:25. | |
years. However the railway industry is getting better at delivering on | :44:25. | :44:33. | |
time on budget. The rail industry might be getting better at sticking | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
to budget, but the money is still coming from the public purse, | :44:36. | :44:42. | |
appoint not lost on Valerie. My tax is paying me to have my own house | :44:42. | :44:48. | |
pulled down. It'll be 20 years before we even see a high-speed | :44:48. | :44:50. | |
train in the East Midlands and in the meantime, who knows what | :44:50. | :45:00. | |
obstacles could end up in the way? We are joined from -- by Joe from | :45:00. | :45:07. | |
the Stop HS2. The project is now estimated to cost �50 billion, those | :45:07. | :45:11. | |
costs are bound to rise. Isn't the arguments about the money bound to | :45:11. | :45:17. | |
diminish? When we had the second reading of the bill, I set out | :45:17. | :45:23. | |
clearly what the figures were as to what I had been told. That included | :45:23. | :45:28. | |
a large contingency. It may be below that contingency. That is what | :45:28. | :45:33. | |
happened with the Olympic Games. That hasn't happened with big | :45:33. | :45:38. | |
industrial projects before, though. But the Olympic Games came in below | :45:38. | :45:43. | |
what the contingency was. I know that this is a big project. The fact | :45:43. | :45:49. | |
is that 15 years ago, there were 750 million passenger journeys. Last | :45:49. | :45:55. | |
year there was 1.5 Ilium. We are seeing more freight railways, more | :45:55. | :45:58. | |
people using railways, there hasn't been a new railway line built north | :45:58. | :46:05. | |
of London for 120 years. There surely a host of other projects you | :46:05. | :46:09. | |
would like to see funded and surely the money that will be invested into | :46:09. | :46:13. | |
HS2 could be better spent on some of those local project is? Isn't there | :46:13. | :46:23. | |
a danger that this is an especially -- expensive mistake? There is a | :46:23. | :46:26. | |
huge capacity crunch coming on our railways and rightly, the last | :46:26. | :46:30. | |
Labour government looked at how we meet that demand for rail travel. We | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
concluded the best way was to load a new north to south railway line. It | :46:35. | :46:41. | |
can't happen in isolation. We still need of improvement in our transport | :46:41. | :46:47. | |
networks. But if we are going to be ready for the talented of the future | :46:47. | :46:53. | |
we had to have that capacity. you have the problem, surely, you | :46:53. | :46:58. | |
have a coalition in favour. How can you stop it? That is the problem, we | :46:58. | :47:02. | |
have a lot of politicians in favour but not paying attention to the | :47:02. | :47:11. | |
plans. What is the point you put the Secretary of State? The Olympic | :47:11. | :47:19. | |
budget, which budget we're talking about? It ended up as 10 billion. In | :47:19. | :47:21. | |
reality you should look at the transport experts, the people from | :47:21. | :47:26. | |
the rail industry who are now saying that you could deliver the capacity | :47:26. | :47:29. | |
a lot cheaper, a lot quicker and benefiting a lot more people by | :47:29. | :47:38. | |
investing... So your question is?I know you are doing other | :47:38. | :47:46. | |
investments, but why are you not looking seriously at options like | :47:46. | :47:48. | |
the rail package six, all of these things that could deliver the | :47:48. | :47:53. | |
capacity quicker? On the West Coast Main line north of rugby, there was | :47:53. | :48:03. | |
�10 billion spent on improving that line. Mostly on maintenance.It is a | :48:03. | :48:08. | |
Victorian railway system. It takes a lot of repair. We spent 10 million, | :48:08. | :48:15. | |
it does not improve capacity. We are spending �960 million on Redding | :48:15. | :48:21. | |
Station to improve the capacity. We are spending money. What would you | :48:21. | :48:28. | |
ask the shadow transport Minister? What I say to you is do you really | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
want to be lumbered with this project, with God knows what costs | :48:32. | :48:35. | |
it will end up with, at a time when we have a national debt that seems | :48:35. | :48:42. | |
completely impossible to repay? think the point to be made is, how | :48:42. | :48:46. | |
do we get the capacity we need on our railways? Of course the | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
government need to be controlling costs, that is one of the issues we | :48:49. | :48:56. | |
have been raising with Patrick and his fellow ministers. Are you | :48:56. | :48:59. | |
against HS2 because of the route, or because you are against high-speed | :48:59. | :49:06. | |
travel? I'm against this project and everyone within Stop HS2 is against | :49:06. | :49:11. | |
this project specifically. A solution was devised that any | :49:11. | :49:13. | |
attention being paid as to what was in the best interests of this | :49:13. | :49:20. | |
country. We keep getting hit with the tag when people can defend the | :49:20. | :49:27. | |
oddments be get put. You can't find an economist or an environment list | :49:27. | :49:33. | |
for this. There are a number of people who are in favour of the | :49:33. | :49:38. | |
argument. There is no big piece of infrastructure, no one would deny | :49:38. | :49:40. | |
that HS2 is not a massive piece of infrastructure which is not | :49:40. | :49:48. | |
controversial. Holding the M1 was controversial. -- building. Building | :49:48. | :49:55. | |
the original railways was incredibly controversial. The sort of experts | :49:55. | :50:02. | |
there were in those days, there were some people against them, of course. | :50:02. | :50:09. | |
The academics are backing it, too. would say look at the evidence to | :50:09. | :50:14. | |
the paving bill committee this week, absolutely convinced that it is not | :50:14. | :50:20. | |
going to deliver the promises in terms of regional development. The | :50:20. | :50:24. | |
one you really want to look at is Adam Mills, who was chair of | :50:24. | :50:30. | |
Eurostar, he was saying that the figures were completely made up. He | :50:30. | :50:32. | |
spent two years defending the indefensible and the whole case for | :50:32. | :50:39. | |
HS2 is away with the fairies. have had a lot of response on e-mail | :50:39. | :50:43. | |
and on twitter, many people both in the wide Midlands and in the | :50:43. | :50:52. | |
Chilterns, these are Tory areas. Isn't this the problem you have got? | :50:52. | :50:56. | |
Anyone who is going to be affected is going to be upset, obviously. | :50:56. | :50:59. | |
That quite often the attack on the political classes in general is we | :50:59. | :51:03. | |
don't look to the future. No one can say this is not something looking a | :51:03. | :51:07. | |
long way to the future. We need those connections between our big | :51:07. | :51:11. | |
cities. At the moment we are spending almost 20 billion on | :51:11. | :51:17. | |
crossrail in London. The biggest construction site anywhere in Europe | :51:17. | :51:20. | |
at the moment. We have got to also make sure we have the connections | :51:20. | :51:24. | |
between our great cities, too. We don't want everything based just in | :51:24. | :51:31. | |
the South. Thinking about some of the highly marginal seats in the | :51:31. | :51:36. | |
Midlands, Erewash, for example, the only parties is to be against it is | :51:36. | :51:43. | |
UKIP? We are in favour of building this high-speed rail line, it is | :51:43. | :51:46. | |
important for generating jobs and growth for the future which people | :51:46. | :51:50. | |
in those marginal seats want as much as they do in our cities. Of course | :51:50. | :51:54. | |
we need to be sensitive to the views of those people, though. It is | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
difficult and we need to get the compensation package right and the | :51:57. | :52:00. | |
government have two address that because that is an issue that came | :52:00. | :52:05. | |
through loud and clear when we took evidence on the paving committee. | :52:05. | :52:12. | |
Where do you take the campaign now? We keep going to stop the multiple | :52:12. | :52:17. | |
find out about it, the more people come out against. People say they | :52:17. | :52:24. | |
were conned by the spin, then they bothered reading the evidence. I | :52:24. | :52:27. | |
suggest more MPs actually read the evidence that shows it is just go to | :52:27. | :52:33. | |
drag... Thank you very much. We will come back to this in years to come. | :52:33. | :52:36. | |
Let's slow down the form of transport now from High Speed2 to | :52:36. | :52:45. | |
just two wheels. When MPs return after the summer parliamentary | :52:45. | :52:48. | |
break, one of the first things they'll be debating is how to get | :52:48. | :52:52. | |
more people cycling. But it comes at a time when cycling deaths are on | :52:52. | :52:55. | |
the rise. We've spoken to one Nottingham biking commuter who had | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
an horrific accident. Here's his story, and just to warn you, you may | :52:58. | :53:04. | |
find some of the pictures of his injuries disturbing. Hi, I am Chris. | :53:04. | :53:09. | |
I'm a cyclist and I was involved in a pretty major cycling accident. The | :53:09. | :53:16. | |
device which was holding my iPhone, to safely mounted on the handlebars, | :53:16. | :53:21. | |
failed, dropping the phone into my front wheel. That stopped me at 30 | :53:21. | :53:25. | |
miles an hour, and I landed on my face. I broke my nose, cut through | :53:25. | :53:29. | |
my top lip, and my bottom lip. I understand there are some 52 | :53:29. | :53:37. | |
stitches there, I knocked out six teeth. I broke my neck, my back, it | :53:37. | :53:40. | |
has taken six months to start to rebuild me and I'm looking forward | :53:40. | :53:47. | |
to having a bone graft to replace the bone, so they can screw implants | :53:47. | :53:52. | |
into my bone, it will be a long recovery. I want to see what the | :53:52. | :53:57. | |
government is doing to support cyclists generally. They do it more | :53:57. | :54:02. | |
and more on the continent, in other countries, yes, we have schemes like | :54:02. | :54:06. | |
cycling to work, how accessible it is that everybody in the community? | :54:06. | :54:10. | |
How much testing is going into accessories we all use on a bike? | :54:10. | :54:16. | |
How much is the government seriously looking at cycling? Cycle lanes are | :54:16. | :54:22. | |
great but how many can we put into Nottingham and around the country? | :54:22. | :54:29. | |
Only last week, the girl was killed in London on one of Boris 's bikes. | :54:29. | :54:32. | |
Is that going to save everybody? When it comes to cycle helmets, I | :54:32. | :54:36. | |
think people should use them, whether they make the law or not, I | :54:36. | :54:41. | |
think the government should make a decision and say, these are the | :54:41. | :54:48. | |
reasons why. At the end of the day my decision is, if you have an | :54:48. | :54:51. | |
accident and hit your head, would you want to protect yours? I was | :54:51. | :55:00. | |
wearing mine and that is what saved my life. It is public the best 50 or | :55:00. | :55:06. | |
�60 I have spent in my life. -- probably. Despite my accident, I | :55:06. | :55:10. | |
really want to get more people cycling. It is a healthy way to get | :55:10. | :55:16. | |
to work. It is cost-effective and good preview and your back pocket. | :55:16. | :55:23. | |
-- good for you. People need to ensure there is enough safety. It is | :55:23. | :55:29. | |
also doing a fun bit of exercise. pretty gruesome story but he still | :55:29. | :55:33. | |
wants people to get on their bikes, what can politicians do to make the | :55:33. | :55:40. | |
roads safer? It was a terrible story but it is good he is saying people | :55:40. | :55:43. | |
should get on their bikes. It is healthy and we want to encourage | :55:43. | :55:48. | |
people. There is a lot politicians can do. We heard that a number of | :55:48. | :55:51. | |
people have been injured on bikes recently, particularly associated | :55:51. | :55:56. | |
with heavy goods vehicles. More could be done to ensure the safety | :55:56. | :56:01. | |
of heavy goods vehicles, the safety equipment. The government should be | :56:01. | :56:07. | |
doing more rather than that stating for longer heavy goods vehicles. | :56:07. | :56:13. | |
What is your view on cycling, is it a priority? We all want to encourage | :56:13. | :56:16. | |
cycling, we want to help make it safer. It is a long-term plan, there | :56:16. | :56:22. | |
are a lot of things you can do in engineering of roads, it is a slow | :56:22. | :56:25. | |
process because you have to take more account of the needs of | :56:25. | :56:33. | |
cyclists. You have to take account of cycling deaths rising by 10%. | :56:33. | :56:40. | |
acknowledge that, I made the point in the House of Commons. One of the | :56:40. | :56:46. | |
elements of cycling was the rising death. But you scrapped road safety | :56:46. | :56:50. | |
targets. It has been very much criticised by the Road safety | :56:50. | :56:59. | |
industry. The overall fertility 's were down last year. -- fatalities. | :56:59. | :57:02. | |
A lot of cyclists won't see it that way, they think they are under | :57:02. | :57:07. | |
threat from Article eight of lorries and all sorts of things. When we are | :57:07. | :57:11. | |
doing that, we are making money available to local authorities to be | :57:11. | :57:16. | |
able to take those measures. I also want to see the money that George | :57:16. | :57:20. | |
Osborne made available in the autumn statement, that we start engineering | :57:21. | :57:25. | |
cycling into our future plans. Should the wearing of safety helmets | :57:25. | :57:32. | |
be compulsory now? I encourage people to do it, I'm not sure we | :57:32. | :57:37. | |
need a law, I think people should have the choice. I always wear a | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
cycle helmet but I know that in other parts of the world where they | :57:40. | :57:44. | |
have introduced compulsory helmets it has led to a reduction in the | :57:44. | :57:49. | |
number of people cycling, and that isn't what we want. The evidence is, | :57:49. | :57:55. | |
don't have a law but do encourage people. Chris was telling us in the | :57:55. | :57:58. | |
film that he welcomes the government 's cycle to work scheme, this tax | :57:58. | :58:01. | |
concession. Is that going to be further encouraged by the | :58:02. | :58:08. | |
government? We will look at many measures, we are seeing schemes, | :58:08. | :58:15. | |
putting money available for them, we will look at that. I still sure what | :58:15. | :58:24. | |
the Labour policy is? -- not sure. With any new transport scheme, there | :58:24. | :58:26. | |
should be a cycling safety assessment as part of that, to make | :58:26. | :58:31. | |
sure it is safe. We think the proportion of the road but it should | :58:31. | :58:35. | |
be used to improve cycling infrastructure, like looking at | :58:35. | :58:39. | |
dangerous junctions. They should restore road safety targets and | :58:39. | :58:46. | |
scrap the plan to have longer heavy goods vehicles, they need to improve | :58:46. | :58:54. | |
the safety of HGVs. Are you a cyclist? I'm afraid not. I cycle | :58:54. | :58:57. | |
every day to work. Time for a round-up of some of the | :58:58. | :59:01. | |
other political stories in the East Midlands this week - in 60 seconds | :59:01. | :59:11. | |
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Council wants meetings broadcast on the Internet after what he said was | :59:12. | :59:16. | |
shocking behaviour by the Labour opposition. He made the announcement | :59:16. | :59:21. | |
after an unruly council meeting this month. The East Midlands has a third | :59:21. | :59:26. | |
MP on Labour 's governing the, the National executive committee. John | :59:26. | :59:35. | |
Ashwood joins Dennis Skinner and Margaret Beckett. The euro | :59:35. | :59:40. | |
referendum has already happened in Derbyshire. On a tour of the Toyota | :59:40. | :59:45. | |
plant, Nick Clegg asked for a show of hands. Should we remain in the | :59:45. | :59:53. | |
European Union? Hands up who thinks we should go out of it? Only a | :59:53. | :59:59. | |
handful they did to leave, and as he pointed out, perhaps not surprising | :59:59. | :00:06. | |
in a company that exports 85% of its cars to mainland Europe. -- voted to | :00:06. | :00:14. | |
leave. We may see more of this straw | :00:14. | :00:21. | |
polls. In or out, in the EU? We saw that the Toyota workers understand | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
the importance of knowing what is happening, and they want people to | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
invest in the UK, they want the certainty of knowing we are part of | :00:28. | :00:34. | |
it. I figure we need to stay in. Renegotiation, better deal for the | :00:34. | :00:43. | |
United Kingdom, and in. That is my line. We are heading for the summer | :00:43. | :00:53. | |
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recess. Plans for the months ahead? In the nobles stacked away? I have | :00:55. | :01:00. | |
several which I'm forward to reading. The job of Secretary of | :01:00. | :01:03. | |
state means you are still on duty throughout summary says months, but | :01:03. | :01:09. | |
I am making my West Italy through the official biography of Margaret | :01:09. | :01:19. | |
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