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Here in the East, the end of council tenants having a home for


life, as fixed term tenancies are introduced.


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And MPs renewing calls for banks to Hello and happy new year to you all.


Welcome back to Sunday Politics East. I'm Etholle George. Coming


up... Your house, but not your home? An end to lifetime tenancies


will mean families in the future could be moved after only a few


years at the same address. We think it is important for tenants to move


into their homes securely and knowing this is their home or light.


-- for life. And MPs get bankers and businesses


together to see why so many firms are still struggling for funds.


cannot imagine how a start-up would get finance it looking to a bank.


But first, let us meet our guests for this week. Dr Therese Coffey,


the Conservative MP for Suffolk Coastal. And Tom Beattie, the


Labour leader of Corby Council. Let us start with news of that annual


price hike to rail fares. Above inflation for the 10th consecutive


year. Tom Beattie, the highest rise in the region is 4.7% in


Northamptonshire. I think it is difficult to justify them, putting


a bigger burden on people travelling to work. I think it is a


significant amounts of money for someone to have from their salary.


I pick it is difficult to justify that. Therese Coffey, not all bad


news, though. �10 billion worth of investment for rail across the


region covering the period up to 2019. 1.4 billion will improve one


of the services. That is absolutely vital. We have seen increases in


people using the trains. But the track is not always standing up to


the stream. And also improving across the counties, which is to be


welcomed. Other important its infrastructure improvement on


Northamptonshire? I absolutely vital. The opening of the new


railway station really helped with economic regeneration plans. We


welcome particularly the proposal to elect replied that section of


the line between Kettering and Corby and also to have two rats.


Those infrastructure improvements will be vital to the success of


regeneration projects. Now to one of the biggest changes


for council tenants in generations. Next week is the deadline for our


local authorities to decide whether to end lifetime tenancies and


replace them with fixed terms. We can reveal a split among local


authorities in our region along political lines. We have found that


Labour-run councils are to retain lifetime tenancies for their own


housing stock. Only Tory-run Waveney will join them. While


Conservative and Lib Dem councils plan to move to five or even two


year tenancies. The Government hopes the change will free up more


homes for those on the housing register. But critics say the move


could create problem neighbourhoods in the future.


I had let years since my daughter was seven and she is denied that


the two. -- I have lived here. Maureen Connolly brought up her


family in this three-bedroomed Norwich house. She now has plenty


of space for visitors and grand children. I would Heat 2 move. But


I have said the only way I would leave his in a box, beat bards. --


and would not like to move. Maureen's tenancy with Norwich City


Council means she can comfortably see out her days in this house, if


she chooses to. But soon new tenants in other areas will no


longer have the right to a home for life. We think it is important for


tenants to move into homes securely and knowing this is their home for


life. It is more than a political stance. We believe people should


have the same rights to be able to live securely and make a life for


themselves and their families in a community around them. That is our


priority. Orwell Housing, based in Suffolk, was among the first in the


UK to introduce Affordable Rent Tenures a year ago. Alex Fitton and


his partner Sapphira moved in three months ago. That was after a two


and a half year wait for their own flat. They're on a yearlong starter


tenancy which, all being well, should be extended for five more


years. Allied time Kinsey would not make a difference. We would not be


looking to stay. -- a lifetime tenancy. We would probably want to


move to a bigger house at some point. That's exactly the kind of


move Orwell Housing says the shorter tenancy should prompt. It


is said that shorter tenses could cost more in the Long Run. Every


time you in the tenancy, you have to deal with administrative costs


and the loss of rent that inevitably occurrence -- at an


inevitably happen. That can cost over �2,500 on a very time we have


to let again. This month, councils are required to publish new tenancy


strategies as guidance for social landlords. Research by the Sunday


Politics shows Labour councils in the East favouring lifetime


tenancies. Conservative and Lib Dem authorities are likely to move to


the five year deal. What a lot of us, we have to think about job


prospects, we are we are going and it might add that somebody not


staying in a school for a full term, but children adapt and can change


and we have to change. Can you give guarantees to people they would not


be to work out that they did not want to go? They would be given


every support. It depends on every individual case. Or Maureen and all


existing social housing tenants, the changes will have no impact.


But for future generations, a rented home or like could be a


thing of the past. Well, earlier this week, political


correspondent Andrew Sinclair spoke to Brandon Lewis. He is Communities


and Local Government Minister and a Great Yarmouth MP. He defended the


changes. It gives an opportunity to make sure people have more


opportunity on appropriate housing. We do not want areas blog, giving


people the chance to move on to something more suitable. But you


are talking about people who want to move. The trouble with this


fixed tenancy is you will have to make people move. First of all,


people in a property at the moment are protected. This is for people


new to properties after April. every four or five years, made to


move? Not necessarily. It is giving flexibility on a local authority to


look at things, making sure people have the right housing. That does


not mean making people move every for five years. The landlord and


his fight to get a longer tenancy. -- the landlord can decide. It a


family of four meat at home, that is still needed. What will change


potentially its, its someone goes into a property as a family of four,


and then down the line, it their needs change, we can then make sure


that authority as the flexibility to get them into appropriate forms.


But isn't this going to undermine people's security. It can be


difficult to put down roots knowing you might be moved. There are a lot


of people in private accommodation move quite regularly. But choosing


to do that. A understand. We Assington local authorities that --


I understand that. We are saying to local authorities that people's


circumstances change. And people might be less inclined to get


involved in community activities because of the possibility of


moving. I do not think so. People doing that want to be involved in


their communities. People who want to be part of their humanity will


always do that. People who move home rejoice are getting older will


still take a choice about getting involved and usually do. Shelter is


very critical of this, saying short-term finances could


destabilise communities. I just do not accept that. People want to be


part of their humanity. People can still be choose to be part of the


community and get involved. I am not sure that us that end of impact.


What about the argument that this causes more -- that this cost more


when looking at the negotiating and letting properties out again?


not buy into that. We need to make sure we use housing stock to the


best ability for residents. Tom Beattie, why are you not


changing things? We believe that tenants require security and that


is widely countenances are the best. I also take the point about


destabilising communities that stop people stewed up the choice to move


and began of a bat. -- people should have the choice. These


changes an increase in security. People feel insecure in their jobs.


What about this will show fabric of these communities? I think a point


was well made by Brandon Lewis that people do want to be involved get


involved anyway. If you were guaranteed somewhere to live for


five years, that does not stop you becoming a school governor of


becoming involved with local schools. But if you are only there


for a couple of years, but you key in as much about the property and


maintaining it? -- what you care as much. I know one council is


proposing a two-year tenancy bring young people under the age of 25. I


think that is sensible. When I do not agree with Tom is there are


waiting lists. I think it is right that councils and housing


associations have the appropriate tools we have there is an


assumption people will stay in their homes. But when you no longer


need three bedrooms, I think it is fair to say that we need this


family home for a family that is growing. What about children moving


schools. Is it be at the she did that? I think that is unlikely.


is it fair that children should add that? I know in London there is a


member of parliament it is in social housing. That is quite a


change. He has been an MP for quite a long time. Should the council be


able to say to him it is time to move? That will not up and on that


individual, or the people in the film, being existing tenants, but


it will change for new or tenants. What about being up much-needed


social housing stock? I be there is the need for more housing. That is


a demand for more housing. Rather than attempt to moving people on


against their will. The notion of social housing only been available


to people with low ink comes or vulnerable its dangerous. I grew up


on a council estate. Those were very mixed communities back then.


You could be up at any work and living next door to a school


teacher. -- you could be a factory worker. This drives communities


into nothing more than sink estates. I do not agree. We have seen how


social housing has changed. What you want to see from councils,


working with housing developers, is a greater mixture of housing.


Surely this will cost more? Administration? And on local-


authority reviewing every two years will cost a lot of money?


necessarily. Some people could be in unsuitable accommodation at the


moment. These are balanced. I do not think the reason for having to


sign a new tenancy agreement of the five years is a reason not to have


this policy. What about it children have moved on, should people still


live in a family-sized house? can do things to encourage people


to downsize and already do that, but it is someone's choice and we


have to recognise and respect that choice. Use of the woman in Norwich


who has lived in that house for probably most of her life. She is


probably comfortable there. It seems harsh to ask her to move.


Isn't it localism that has given you as accounts of the chance to go


your own way? Yes. We were asked if he wanted to make changes to


housing strategy and if we wanted to adopt lits -- adopt fixed and


penances and be said no. We want to provide tenants with the security


wanted. I respect the decisions for councils to make these decisions.


Those will be voted on by the public. I have a lot of people


asking why bother saving to buy their house when they could have


just got a council house. My answer is you have the choice of where you


live. Often, when the state provides for you, ultimately you


end up losing choices. This is not tended to be punitive, but about


saying we do need to make sure housing stock is used to its


maximum capacity. We shall leave it there and stay with finances. In a


bit of a groundhog day moment, MPs from Norfolk and Suffolk have been


holding their second annual banking summit. They met with senior


figures from the banking industry, and more than 100 business people,


to try to help kick-start the economy of this region. Despite new


figures showing a small increase in lending, many firms are finding it


tough to get affordable finance. A similar conference was held last


year. But small businesses, across the region, like this one in Harlow,


still insist that banks aren't doing enough to help.


We make bespoke kitchens, furniture, fitted furniture and various other


things. We started in 2006. It was just my partner and myself. The


group from a small workshop to this place. We have about five employees.


We decided to refinancing and looked around for a bank loan. We


then discovered that the banks were not lending money easily and look


elsewhere and bound Foundation Easts. That is a not-for-profit


organisation in this region that lends money to small businesses.


The rate was higher than the banks, but the banks were not interested.


At best, it was difficult. At worst, it was downright obstructive. The


banks are looking for a sure bet, not a safe bet or good lane -- plan.


They are looking for something so 100%, why would I want to borrow


money it by did not need to borrow it? I was looking to borrow to


expand rather than prop up a business. I would dread to think


about it would be on a start-up business. I was established, trying


to borrow to expand. I cannot imagine how a start-up would get


financing it looking to a bank. Therese Coffey, you would hosting


this summit. What did it hoped to achieve? It was about bringing


accountability, everything together to talk about problems. We also had


success stories. I think it was a positive day. Undoubtedly, there


are still issues in terms of making sure that businesses get access to


appropriate finance to stop that you had to have a second one?


rather sad you had to have a second one? I think it was successful and


we are planning another one next year. Foundation East, amongst


others, are getting equity. There are also start-up schemes,


particularly for young people. The latest one has been extended to


their peak. What about Corby, anything you can do? We try to work


its closely with businesses. The whole approach as a council is


about economic development. That runs like a thread through all the


stuff we do. We do not have a specific development department,


but make sure that economic development and access to finance


is taken seriously. At a practical level, how can you help that?


can work with developers to make available land. We are not a bank


and cannot lend money. I have come from a meeting with my local


strategic partnership where we were talking about this issue. That was


in relation to the Northamptonshire Chambers of Commerce to have called


on a business bank. It is the difficulty here that businesses are


not getting access to needed money. Those tend to be small businesses


generally. The big companies have money and find it easier. There is


a lot of positive action, but not much happening. Net lending is up


in the region, which is good news, are being used to help companies


grow. There is still more we want to do and try to do it was that are


aspects -- and try to do. One thing to do is help with business


planning. You are not blaming the businesses or lack of lending?


businesses are operating in their overdraft. Others are nervous about


investing when they could get finance. We shall leave it there.


Now, just time for our political round-up. Commuting by train


resumed for many of us this week. But not, it seems, for the Rail


Minister. Deborah McGurran reveals in 60 seconds.


A special BBC investigation by Inside Out found hundreds of cases


of abuse against elderly people in care homes. It is intolerable and


we should all feel confident when a loved one goes into a care home


that they should be safe and well looked after.


And Julian Huppert, MP for Cambridge, finds it intolerable


that the county's funding per pupil is one of the lowest in the country.


Cambridgeshire school children will suffer from underfunding fought


even longer unless action is taken now.


Now the Corby by-election is over, cross party consensus breaks out


over the future of Kettering Hospital. We want to keep the vital


acute health services in the north and Northamptonshire.


Rail Minister Simon Burns faced criticism for using a ministerial


car to get to London instead of travelling by train.


And Derek Murphy, the leader of Norfolk County Council, is stepping


down temporarily to face his critics. It is while he's


investigated by the council's standards committee. I have to put


forward a very effective case to defend my position.


More shortfalls in elderly care. What more needs to be done?


Care Quality Commission was criticised for being unclear about


their remit. I think they are clear. Care should be of the best quality.


I welcome their instant inspections. I am meeting them next month,


because there are some homes in my part of the region that a not doing


what they should be. I am also following up with the county


council to see how be an inspecting. Vital that people in Kear need to


be looked after properly. -- care. It is terrible people in care are


being treated this way? Absolutely. You would expect you are elderly


relatives, when going into care, to be looked after well. The elderly


and very young are the two most vulnerable groups and will deserve


the best. We need to do what we can to make sure that happens. We shall


come back to this on another day. Thank you both very much for


joining us. That's all for now. Keep in touch


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