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barricades in this region. They did have six councillors. Now they've | :01:12. | :01:22. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2234 seconds | :01:22. | :38:36. | |
got 48. What does it mean for our the East of England. Coming up: | :38:36. | :38:44. | |
Revenge of the fruitcakes. You can make massive gains in the East. The | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
Prime Minister may have dismissed the other candidates as fruitcakes | :38:47. | :38:53. | |
and with addicts but thousands of voters decide they want a slice of | :38:53. | :39:00. | |
the action. -- fruitcakes and lunatics. Nobody trusts David | :39:00. | :39:06. | |
Cameron anymore. That made a difference on the doorstep. Norfolk | :39:06. | :39:14. | |
City Council goes from true will to no overall control. We have to | :39:14. | :39:20. | |
scramble around for a coalition. That is not good for services or the | :39:20. | :39:27. | |
people of Norfolk overall. But we now have two live with that. A full | :39:27. | :39:33. | |
spectrum of opinions today. Health Minister and Norfolk MP, Norman | :39:33. | :39:42. | |
Lamb, the UKIP director, Lisa Duffy, Brandon Lewis, local government | :39:42. | :39:49. | |
Minister and Conservative MP, and George Nobbs, the Labour group | :39:49. | :39:56. | |
leader on Norfolk county council. Later on, what happened partly by | :39:56. | :40:01. | |
party across the region. But no doubt about the big story. The rise | :40:01. | :40:11. | |
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of the UKIP. Nobody saw this coming. Not even the UKIP. They | :40:13. | :40:22. | |
hoped to pick up a handful of seats. But not as many as this. UKIP | :40:22. | :40:31. | |
armload cemented as the third party. -- are now. Candidates uncovered a | :40:31. | :40:38. | |
deep dissatisfaction. People in the three main parties are not listening | :40:38. | :40:48. | |
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to people. And another issue at play on the doorsteps. Top of peoples | :40:51. | :41:00. | |
concerns was immigration. When we have 29 million Bulgarians and | :41:00. | :41:06. | |
Europeans allowed access to this country, coming here for the system | :41:06. | :41:16. | |
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that they can get onto with benefits. Modern people are angry | :41:17. | :41:26. | |
and frustrated and frightened. -- moderate. Many candidates who never | :41:26. | :41:31. | |
expected to get elected are no county councils. Some of your | :41:31. | :41:37. | |
councillors have yet to even be inside a city chamber. It is | :41:37. | :41:46. | |
fabulous! They are not part of the professional political class. | :41:46. | :41:49. | |
will now make decisions about schools, social services, and | :41:50. | :41:54. | |
economic development. UKIP as the official opposition on the Norfolk | :41:54. | :42:04. | |
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county council. No longer a party of process. -- protest. It will be | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
expected to scrutinise the work of a main oddity Conservative | :42:08. | :42:17. | |
Administration. -- minority. The job of an opposition group is to | :42:18. | :42:24. | |
scrutinise what the administration is doing. To look at detail at | :42:24. | :42:31. | |
proposals and put forward alternatives. If you are a very | :42:31. | :42:35. | |
small minority, late UKIP were, you can say and do things and it will | :42:35. | :42:41. | |
not matter a great deal. But as the main opposition group, it does | :42:41. | :42:50. | |
matter. The other parties are not certain what to expect. They are | :42:50. | :42:58. | |
putting themselves up to make a protest to David Cameron. The new | :42:58. | :43:05. | |
councils need to prove themselves as effective col -- politicians. If | :43:05. | :43:09. | |
they do not, they run the risk of voters not taking them seriously | :43:09. | :43:17. | |
again. I want to begin by talking about this extraordinary success. | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
The same question for each of you. Norman Lamb, what do you the success | :43:21. | :43:31. | |
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of UKIP down to. Much of the Western world is facing economic turmoil. | :43:32. | :43:38. | |
People are anxious about the future. There is a sense of powerlessness | :43:39. | :43:47. | |
and remoteness from decision-making. People on low incomes with low skill | :43:47. | :43:54. | |
bases see a threat to their jobs. We need to understand why people are | :43:54. | :43:57. | |
anxious about remote power with the European Union bash which I | :43:57. | :44:04. | |
personally think must change. It is vital that we are part of a single | :44:04. | :44:12. | |
market and are trading nation but Europe must change. And some groups | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
in society are affected by immigration. If you are at low | :44:16. | :44:24. | |
skilled work and you will be anxious about the future. -- if you are a | :44:24. | :44:34. | |
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low skilled worker. Let's hear what others have to say. Brandon Lewis? | :44:36. | :44:43. | |
There is a mixture of things. Immigration was an SU. Welfare | :44:43. | :44:49. | |
reforms are so important. -- immigration was a concern. We need | :44:50. | :44:54. | |
to show to people that we can make a difference. The benefits of welfare | :44:54. | :45:00. | |
reform are only just beginning to come through. An important comment | :45:00. | :45:06. | |
there was about councillors who have never been in a chamber before. I | :45:06. | :45:13. | |
don't think that is a bad thing. Every politician when they are | :45:13. | :45:16. | |
elected for the fast time is doing it for their community. The | :45:16. | :45:20. | |
challenge now is to make sure these people are looking at the right | :45:20. | :45:30. | |
thing for Norfolk. We have got Norman and Brandon who are both | :45:30. | :45:36. | |
ministers in the same government. Normally with the opposition parties | :45:36. | :45:43. | |
there is a choice of who you vote for. In this election it was only a | :45:43. | :45:53. | |
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choice of labour and UKIP. Both did well. Although I wish we did better! | :45:54. | :46:04. | |
There was only one vote to dividing us in Thetford. So there is | :46:04. | :46:06. | |
discontent not just with the Liberal Democrats and the Conservatives | :46:07. | :46:13. | |
being government together, but also on Norfolk county council, a lot of | :46:13. | :46:19. | |
local concerns had made people sick and tired of the administration. | :46:19. | :46:25. | |
said Duffy, what do you make of the claim that it does not matter if | :46:25. | :46:35. | |
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people have never been in a council chamber? -- Lisa Duffy. What I think | :46:35. | :46:40. | |
is really fascinating is that we have got new, fresh people, with | :46:40. | :46:46. | |
fresh ideas. They are passionate about their community. That is | :46:46. | :46:50. | |
exciting, especially for a council like Norfolk were these fresh ideas | :46:50. | :46:58. | |
are coming. You need to have real life experience. What Bill can you | :46:58. | :47:04. | |
afford to pay, weird as the next job coming from? UKIP have stood up to | :47:04. | :47:12. | |
be counted in representing real people. There has been talk about a | :47:12. | :47:20. | |
lack of policy. What about education, transport, social care? | :47:20. | :47:25. | |
Absolutely. And that is what you will get from the UKIP. We have a | :47:25. | :47:31. | |
full local manifesto. We were clear about what we stand for. We have a | :47:31. | :47:41. | |
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zero whip system. We will deliver, working with other parties, to | :47:44. | :47:50. | |
deliver what is right for local people. Wilma to disagreement | :47:50. | :48:00. | |
amongst own members? -- well that? think it is correct we do not all | :48:00. | :48:07. | |
fought like sheep. It is about bringing votes together. -- vote | :48:08. | :48:15. | |
like sheep. How do the elections leave the tally of councils across | :48:15. | :48:21. | |
the region? This is how it looked before the elections. The | :48:21. | :48:31. | |
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Conservatives dominant. And he that is no. -- here it is. UKIP up from | :48:32. | :48:42. | |
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six to 48. What does it mean for the other parties? If we cannot take | :48:52. | :49:00. | |
control of this council now, we never can. Not totally disappointed. | :49:00. | :49:07. | |
But we are the main opposition again. These were achievable targets | :49:07. | :49:11. | |
for Labour but from great Yarmouth to catering, UKIP robs them of their | :49:11. | :49:21. | |
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prize. -- catering. A lot of those people have voted for UKIP. We have | :49:21. | :49:29. | |
a lot of work to do. Any great Yarmouth, Labour field in seats they | :49:29. | :49:39. | |
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were hoping to take from the Tories. -- Labour fell short. People are fed | :49:39. | :49:46. | |
up with Labour and the Conservatives and are looking for an alternative. | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
Advances in team is shy feel to materialise for the Liberal | :49:50. | :50:00. | |
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Democrats. -- Cambridge. This is the first time we have not held a seat. | :50:06. | :50:14. | |
The Greens suffered their first losses at county level. And it was | :50:14. | :50:16. | |
difficult for the Conservatives, even though they were braced for | :50:16. | :50:26. | |
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losses will stop 88 less councillors than before. I am obviously | :50:26. | :50:36. | |
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disappointed. It was devastating. And your election that we expected | :50:37. | :50:47. | |
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to win. We were heading for first-class services in Norfolk. And | :50:54. | :51:01. | |
we hoped to continue with the progress we have made. There were | :51:01. | :51:09. | |
still many savings to be made but this has made a difference. Fresh | :51:09. | :51:13. | |
political partnerships will now be put to the test. Some objected | :51:13. | :51:22. | |
Conservatives. -- ejected. If this carries on, you could lose your seat | :51:22. | :51:31. | |
in the next election. It is always a shame to lose councillors. But at | :51:31. | :51:37. | |
the same time, Labour did not make big gains the expected to. There is | :51:37. | :51:43. | |
a lesson for all the parties. Lots of work to do to years ahead of a | :51:43. | :51:53. | |
general election. It fell short of the result you were expecting. | :51:53. | :52:03. | |
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a little! Not by much! Extraordinary to hear a conservative sounding so | :52:06. | :52:14. | |
out of touch. Brandon, you contributed to some of the losses by | :52:14. | :52:17. | |
making the biggest cut to any authority in Britain when you made | :52:17. | :52:26. | |
the cut to the sport grant for a Yarmouth. Has that made a | :52:26. | :52:32. | |
difference? That was a legacy from the financial settlement of the last | :52:32. | :52:42. | |
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Labour government. I've got �10 million extra for the Yarmouth. The | :52:43. | :52:47. | |
last government left the place with �300 million per year less than | :52:47. | :52:57. | |
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before. They hadn't had the kind of losses that Labour left them. | :53:03. | :53:07. | |
Lamb, are you no longer a party of protest just an unpopular part of a | :53:07. | :53:15. | |
coalition government? It is a transition. We did pick up | :53:15. | :53:22. | |
previously protest votes and now that is happening with UKIP. We are | :53:22. | :53:24. | |
taking responsibility and doing the right thing working with another | :53:25. | :53:31. | |
party in the national interest. Our mission is a strong economy and feel | :53:31. | :53:41. | |
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society. -- better society. Where we are able to get our message across | :53:42. | :53:50. | |
on the ground, we actually did rather well. In many parts of the | :53:50. | :53:57. | |
country where there are Liberal Democrats MPs. I want to talk about | :53:57. | :54:04. | |
a 14, which needs investment. Can you confirm that your councillors | :54:04. | :54:14. | |
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will make it happen? We have to look at the priorities. What do we need | :54:15. | :54:21. | |
to do to begin with, we can cuts be made? Let's look at wages and | :54:21. | :54:28. | |
allowances. Not cutting frontline services, but those behind the | :54:28. | :54:33. | |
scene. Different groups within councils, are needed? Not | :54:33. | :54:43. | |
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necessarily. In Cambridge we have a good team. Peter Reid clearly better | :54:51. | :55:00. | |
good job because he got 67% of the vote. There is a danger that if you | :55:00. | :55:06. | |
make a seductive promises, extra things, and cut taxes, people will | :55:06. | :55:12. | |
end up disappointed and feel let down. We have cut taxes in Ramsey | :55:12. | :55:20. | |
and deliver more services. It can be reflected in a county council. Are | :55:20. | :55:27. | |
you seeing our town council is not important? Kill off all the elderly | :55:27. | :55:37. | |
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is critically important. -- here for the elderly. -- care. People who | :55:43. | :55:47. | |
never voted before starting to vote for UKIP because they have no trust | :55:47. | :55:54. | |
in the others. If this is engaging people in politics surely that is | :55:54. | :56:02. | |
good news? Whoever you vote for, please do vote. We want more people | :56:02. | :56:09. | |
engaged with politics. What ever reason people are getting involved, | :56:09. | :56:17. | |
that for democracy is a good thing. It gets a debate going. Do you | :56:17. | :56:25. | |
agree, Norman Lamb? I do. Particularly people who feel elated | :56:25. | :56:35. | |
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from the system. I agree with Lisa about that. -- eliminated. | :56:36. | :56:42. | |
Guaranteeing that we provide efficient services with limited | :56:42. | :56:52. | |
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resources is difficult and these are difficult decisions being made. | :56:52. | :57:02. | |
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are the groups you think we could do with open councils? We need to look | :57:02. | :57:12. | |
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at every element. Name one.Chief Executive wages. So you would have | :57:14. | :57:23. | |
him work for free? His council allowance... They do not get council | :57:23. | :57:33. | |
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allowances. We have two leave it there. What exactly does it mean for | :57:35. | :57:44. | |
the councils? And for the voters? No overall control means that no | :57:44. | :57:49. | |
individual party has enough councils to form a majority. -- enough | :57:49. | :57:59. | |
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councillors. The worst-case scenario is disagreements and stalemates. | :58:01. | :58:10. | |
Here is some advice. As officers, we tread the line conscious that the | :58:10. | :58:16. | |
next election can change results. We want every party and every council | :58:16. | :58:23. | |
to have the opportunity to be involved. Obviously it is the | :58:23. | :58:28. | |
cabinet making the majority of day-to-day decisions. Does it make | :58:28. | :58:35. | |
your life more difficult? It just means you have to work harder | :58:35. | :58:43. | |
engaging with all the leaders. George Nobs, and Norfolk Council | :58:43. | :58:53. | |
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or, -- a Norfolk councillor, let's talk about this booklet aimed about | :58:55. | :59:02. | |
helping with this situation and giving advice. Brandon Lewis, there | :59:02. | :59:08. | |
is the worry that decisions will not be made. I was actually an | :59:08. | :59:16. | |
opposition leader for one year, and have been through this. And we were | :59:17. | :59:22. | |
in the same situation with the Liberal Democrats. You need to work | :59:22. | :59:31. | |
together to bring the best thing for your community. Either through a | :59:31. | :59:35. | |
minority administration working properly with a small to get into a | :59:35. | :59:42. | |
position with an overall majority. So, different ways of doing it. | :59:42. | :59:52. | |
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at the be stuck in Norfolk? -- well a deal? The task will be to approach | :59:56. | :00:06. | |
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the other group and try and do a deal. It is unlikely. Crooks can | :00:06. | :00:16. | |
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elect who they like as their leader -- trips. -- groups. No overall | :00:20. | :00:29. | |
control is not a catastrophic situation. But there is the unitary | :00:29. | :00:39. | |
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status matter. They said, when we have this absolute power, we will | :00:39. | :00:48. | |
share it. Any advice for the Conservatives on the council? | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
at who you can work with, or you can do business with, and deliver the | :00:53. | :00:59. | |
services. Particularly when you have issues like adult social care and | :00:59. | :01:08. | |
children's care to deal with. Thank you all very much indeed. Some great | :01:08. | :01:15. |