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Here in the East: The region's Eurosceptic MPs lead | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
the charge for an in-out referendum. And armed police take to the | :01:29. | :01:31. | |
streets of Luton, providing the local police commissioner with his | :01:31. | :01:41. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2149 seconds | :01:41. | :37:31. | |
Hello, and welcome to the Sunday Politics here in the East. I'm | :37:31. | :37:36. | |
Amelia Reynolds. On the menu today: A large helping of Brussels. And | :37:36. | :37:41. | |
it's a subject giving many of the region's Tory MPs indigestion. 21 | :37:41. | :37:44. | |
of them led the way last Wednesday, voting against the Government on | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
the Euro amendment. That's almost half of our Conservative | :37:47. | :37:52. | |
backbenchers critical of David Cameron's Queen speech. Arch | :37:52. | :37:55. | |
Eurosceptic Peter Bone is on our panel. | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
Plus, the new system of police commissioners is facing its biggest | :37:58. | :38:01. | |
operational test in Bedfordshire. Armed police are patrolling the | :38:01. | :38:06. | |
streets in Luton after a surge in gun crime. We ask the Police | :38:06. | :38:10. | |
Commissioner if he can deal with the crisis. | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
But first let's meet our guests. As I said, we have Peter Bone, the | :38:13. | :38:16. | |
Conservative MP for Wellingborough. He joins us from his home in | :38:17. | :38:20. | |
Rushden. And it's a first appearance on the | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
programme for Clive Lewis, Labour's prospective candidate in Norwich | :38:22. | :38:28. | |
South. Clive is no stranger to our studios. He works for the BBC here | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
in the East. But, has been working in a non-editorial capacity since | :38:31. | :38:37. | |
he became a candidate. So let's start with Europe, and a | :38:37. | :38:40. | |
question: Could some Tory MPs in marginal seats stand on a joint | :38:40. | :38:44. | |
ticket with UKIP at the next election? It's something the Mid | :38:44. | :38:52. | |
Bedfordshire MP Nadine Dorries has been talking about. | :38:52. | :38:59. | |
Birth mac is that a divided right, which is what we have now, only | :38:59. | :39:02. | |
allows the left to come through the middle. The Right has not been | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
divided in this way since the second world war and we have to | :39:05. | :39:11. | |
look at imaginative ways of healing the rift on the right of the | :39:11. | :39:15. | |
political arena and find a way to unite them and show the people out | :39:16. | :39:21. | |
there that if you vote Conservative, you are going to get that socially | :39:21. | :39:26. | |
conservative type MP that you want. It is interesting, have you been | :39:26. | :39:32. | |
considering the same move? Well, I think what Nadine was saying and | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
other Conservative MPs are saying is that we have to somehow | :39:35. | :39:41. | |
harnessed the enormous power of the right and we saw that in the local | :39:41. | :39:45. | |
elections. Nearly 50% of people either voted Conservative or UKIP | :39:45. | :39:50. | |
and if we could somehow unite that we would be returned to government | :39:50. | :39:55. | |
with a large majority and one of the ways... Are you interested in | :39:55. | :40:01. | |
joining the UKIP yourself? No, I have not and neither have my | :40:01. | :40:05. | |
association. You can be selected as a Conservative candidate and then | :40:05. | :40:11. | |
endorsed by UKIP, rather like we were a endorsed by the Unionists | :40:11. | :40:15. | |
and a Labour candidates are endorsed by the co-operative | :40:15. | :40:18. | |
candidates. Liberal Democrats are of course the two parties, the | :40:18. | :40:22. | |
Liberals and the Social Democrats. It is nothing new and one of the | :40:22. | :40:29. | |
ways we could unite the right. OK, nothing in you. Labour has had | :40:29. | :40:35. | |
people standing on a joint platform. The Labour and the co-operative R | :40:35. | :40:40. | |
joint sister parties. It is completely different. What we are | :40:40. | :40:44. | |
seeing here, as happy as I am to see the Tories tear themselves | :40:44. | :40:49. | |
apart on this matter, Nadine Dorries is box office. You wonder | :40:49. | :40:53. | |
what she will do next and what she will say. The reality is that why | :40:53. | :40:58. | |
they are fighting with each other everyone wakes up thinking about | :40:58. | :41:02. | |
dhurries -- Nadine Dorries and David Cameron should be thinking | :41:02. | :41:07. | |
about the economy. David Cameron has served no pacts and no deals, | :41:07. | :41:13. | |
or would you defy him? Of course not. I absolutely support David | :41:13. | :41:16. | |
Cameron. The Conservative Party is more united on Europe than we have | :41:17. | :41:22. | |
ever been. The vote last week, there was no Tory rebellion of | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
there. We all supported the amendment or abstained. It was the | :41:26. | :41:31. | |
Labour Party that was all over the place. We are very United. We are | :41:31. | :41:37. | |
staying with Europe. 21 of the region's Tory MPs defied David | :41:37. | :41:39. | |
Cameron on Wednesday, reflecting their deep seated dissatisfaction | :41:39. | :41:42. | |
with the coalition. Now attempts will be made to steer a referendum | :41:42. | :41:45. | |
bill onto the statute book, so we could have that in-out vote within | :41:45. | :41:51. | |
four years. Now, we've heard a lot this week about why we should leave | :41:51. | :41:54. | |
the EU, and in coming weeks we will be looking at those arguments,but | :41:54. | :41:57. | |
there is also a strong case, particularly in this region, for | :41:57. | :42:03. | |
staying in. This week Andrew Sinclair has been looking at some | :42:03. | :42:09. | |
of those who are keen on the European dream. For many people, | :42:09. | :42:13. | |
Europe is more than a political argument, it is part of their | :42:13. | :42:21. | |
everyday life. This company in Stowmarket processes 300,000 tonnes | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
of malt every year for the brewing and food industry. One third of its | :42:25. | :42:31. | |
trade is with Europe. Here, staying in the EU makes total sense. At the | :42:31. | :42:37. | |
moment we stand together with Europe and Britain going alone | :42:37. | :42:40. | |
would be too small on the international scene. Contracts are | :42:40. | :42:45. | |
made globally these days. If Britain was alone it would need a | :42:45. | :42:49. | |
lot of financial support. The legislation has protected trade | :42:49. | :42:53. | |
within Europe. A survey by the local chambers of commerce recently | :42:53. | :42:58. | |
found that 95% of firms believe withdrawing from the you would be a | :42:58. | :43:04. | |
step backwards for the region's economy. 55% of the East of | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
England's trade is with the EU and it is responsible for one in 10 | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
jobs here in the UK. They have a 5 million potential customers | :43:12. | :43:16. | |
throughout Europe and the fact they have no administrative or tariff | :43:16. | :43:19. | |
restrictions means they can do business as easily with Berlin as | :43:19. | :43:27. | |
with Leeds. The eastern region has received more than �400 million in | :43:27. | :43:31. | |
grants from the EU in the last seven years. Companies find it easy | :43:31. | :43:35. | |
to invest here. The biggest investors bring money into how | :43:35. | :43:40. | |
power businesses and help create jobs in the east of Europe, those | :43:41. | :43:46. | |
are Germany and France. We are playing with fire if we put that at | :43:46. | :43:51. | |
risk. David Cameron famously told his party to stop banging on about | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
Europe. His reasoning was that most people do not really care about it. | :43:56. | :44:01. | |
A recent survey by Lord Ashcroft found that 4% of people regard our | :44:01. | :44:06. | |
future relations with EU as a future -- major issue. If one | :44:06. | :44:11. | |
country goes down then everyone suffers. At this school in | :44:11. | :44:13. | |
Cambridgeshire the sixth-form politics class is getting in some | :44:13. | :44:17. | |
last-minute revision. Everyone around this table has travelled to | :44:17. | :44:22. | |
Europe. Some are thinking about studying or working there. If there | :44:22. | :44:26. | |
were a vote today most would choose to stay in the year. So much goes | :44:26. | :44:29. | |
on in our lives that we do not notice that is done by the EU | :44:29. | :44:32. | |
Commission rather than our government but we have grown up | :44:32. | :44:36. | |
with it so there is no problem with it. As soon as we left we would see | :44:36. | :44:40. | |
so many bad things like so many of our rights could be withdrawn or we | :44:40. | :44:45. | |
would not get the benefits that we do see being part of the EU. | :44:45. | :44:50. | |
think the benefits at the moment outweigh the negatives. In fact the | :44:50. | :44:56. | |
Fabian Society recently found that 54% of 18 to 24-year-old woodwork - | :44:56. | :45:00. | |
- would vote to stay in the EU, just 31% would want to leave. There | :45:00. | :45:07. | |
is a strong argument for saying at the heart of Europe but they are | :45:07. | :45:15. | |
going to have to make a better case if they are to win a referendum. | :45:15. | :45:21. | |
What are your main reasons for wanting us out of the you? First of | :45:21. | :45:27. | |
all, can I correct your introduction. When you said most | :45:27. | :45:31. | |
Conservative MPs defied David Cameron, absolutely not, we are | :45:31. | :45:37. | |
putting forward David Cameron's policy. That little piece you ran | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
there was considerably unbalanced, in my view, towards an argument | :45:41. | :45:46. | |
that only the BBC can make. We are asking you now, let us not waste | :45:46. | :45:51. | |
any time, what I your views on why you want to come out of the EU. Let | :45:51. | :45:57. | |
us know. If we just keep to the economic arguments, it is quite | :45:57. | :46:03. | |
clear that we lose millions of jobs by being in the year. We have a | :46:03. | :46:08. | |
trade deficit with the EU of �30 billion a year, in other words more | :46:08. | :46:12. | |
imports into our country than we export which means more jobs in | :46:12. | :46:15. | |
Europe than in our country from being in the EU, where as the rest | :46:15. | :46:20. | |
of the world, we are in surplus. When you are free to trade with the | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
rest of the world we do rather well. The basic idea that somehow being | :46:25. | :46:30. | |
in the EU economic creates jobs, I am afraid that is complete rubbish. | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
We had in that package that 195% of firms believe that withdrawing from | :46:36. | :46:38. | |
the EU would be bad for the region's economy. | :46:38. | :46:43. | |
How come they are all round and you are right? Well, what I think you | :46:43. | :46:47. | |
have to say is what was the question that was put? Nobody is | :46:47. | :46:50. | |
seriously suggesting that we wouldn't trade with the EU and a | :46:50. | :46:54. | |
thing that was the issue that those businesses were referring to. What | :46:54. | :46:58. | |
would happen is there would be a free-trade area, rather like I | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
guess Norway and Switzerland to were doing rather well by not being | :47:01. | :47:07. | |
in the EU but having a free trade. -- area. We would be able to trade | :47:07. | :47:09. | |
with the the rest of the world without all of these regulations | :47:09. | :47:13. | |
imposed on business. If you ask business people will the real | :47:13. | :47:17. | |
problem is with their business they will say over-regulation and most | :47:17. | :47:23. | |
of those regulations come from the European Union. 95% of the British | :47:23. | :47:28. | |
companies do not have -- export at told the European Union and yet | :47:28. | :47:31. | |
they are affected by those regulations. Get rid of those | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
regulations and more people will be employed. Let us look at the latest | :47:35. | :47:43. | |
polling data on the E year. 46% are in favour of restoring while 30% | :47:44. | :47:52. | |
say they would vote to stay in. Labour are in the minority, if you | :47:52. | :47:56. | |
had a referendum you do not want one because you would lose a. | :47:56. | :48:01. | |
week the polls were showing it was virtually a second next so they | :48:01. | :48:03. | |
changed. The point that Peter is making about Europe is that if we | :48:03. | :48:08. | |
were to lead Europe everything would fall apart. As far as I am | :48:08. | :48:14. | |
concerned that is not true. Just look at the eastern region. �5 | :48:14. | :48:17. | |
billion worth of exports go to France and Germany alone here. | :48:17. | :48:23. | |
Trade with France and Germany every year. That is much more than we | :48:23. | :48:28. | |
contribute. Leaving the EU would be a catastrophe for this country. | :48:28. | :48:35. | |
shouldn't people have the choice? We have said quite clearly that we | :48:35. | :48:40. | |
do not want a referendum. Our focus must be on the economy. I put the | :48:40. | :48:43. | |
0.2 Peter and he has said before that Labour are running scared | :48:43. | :48:48. | |
about Europe that we are the only party that has ever given the | :48:48. | :48:52. | |
British people a referendum on Europe so we are not taking lessons | :48:52. | :48:57. | |
from the Conservatives when it comes to referendums and democracy. | :48:57. | :49:03. | |
The reality is that our focus needs to be on the economy. You have | :49:03. | :49:09. | |
heard what Clive Lewis has said and Vince Cable has also criticised a | :49:09. | :49:13. | |
referendum for causing uncertainty among for business community and so | :49:13. | :49:16. | |
has no serious friend of the business community would consider | :49:16. | :49:21. | |
severing links with Brussels. You are damaging business and the | :49:21. | :49:24. | |
economy. I think that Vince Cable is gearing up his leadership | :49:24. | :49:30. | |
campaign to replace Nick Clegg. You know, I think he is probably being | :49:30. | :49:34. | |
a disaster as a Business Secretary. The sooner he leaves the Government | :49:34. | :49:38. | |
and runs for lead but -- leader of the Liberal Democrats is better | :49:38. | :49:44. | |
that -- better for everyone. Seaside towns, farming, transport | :49:44. | :49:48. | |
infrastructure has had a lot of money from Europe, but we are not | :49:48. | :49:52. | |
getting that there's much, are we? I think we have been talking a lot | :49:52. | :49:56. | |
about money here, and that is extremely important but something | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
else, and this is where me and Peter were completely and -- | :50:00. | :50:04. | |
disagree, it is the idea of Europe. You think of European history, | :50:04. | :50:09. | |
centuries of bloodshed and warfare, it has come together in the last 40 | :50:09. | :50:13. | |
or 50 years, the idea of people working together to improve the | :50:13. | :50:17. | |
environment and economy and people's rights at work, I call it | :50:17. | :50:22. | |
right at work, he called it red tape, that is the idea of Europe | :50:22. | :50:26. | |
and the kind of leadership Europe should be offering to the world. | :50:26. | :50:30. | |
You Lukacs Syria and Africa and this shows that people can come | :50:30. | :50:34. | |
together and work together for the common good and it is a fantastic | :50:34. | :50:39. | |
piece of leadership we can show the rest of the world. Peter Bone, when | :50:39. | :50:43. | |
the European campaign takes off and the business community is behind it, | :50:44. | :50:48. | |
you will have a real fight on your hands. Of course the bills this -- | :50:48. | :50:51. | |
of course the business community will not be behind it, it is | :50:51. | :50:57. | |
rubbish that we are getting money from the EU, we pay �19 billion of | :50:57. | :51:01. | |
money into the EU and a kindly give us some back. They cost a fortune, | :51:01. | :51:06. | |
it costs jobs. Economically it is a nonsense to continue in the year in | :51:06. | :51:10. | |
the present situation. What we need to do is go back to what everybody | :51:10. | :51:14. | |
thought they were voting for, a common market, a free trade area, | :51:14. | :51:20. | |
which will be great for Europe and great for Britain. We will lose -- | :51:20. | :51:30. | |
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we will leave Europe now and moved on to law and order. In particular | :51:34. | :51:38. | |
the worrying surge in violence in Luton. This week a local man was | :51:38. | :51:40. | |
jailed for life for the murder of 19-year-old Delaney Brown last | :51:40. | :51:43. | |
September. The incident has been followed by a spate of violent | :51:43. | :51:46. | |
attacks, some involving guns. It's prompted the police to deploy | :51:46. | :51:49. | |
armed officers on the streets. And we've been speaking to people in | :51:49. | :51:52. | |
the Marsh Farm area, where much of the violence has taken place. At | :51:52. | :51:55. | |
the church's weekly community cafe people were ready and willing to | :51:55. | :51:58. | |
talk about how it's affected the area. It seems to be coming from | :51:58. | :52:00. | |
the authorities all over the place that Marsh Farm is Dodge City in | :52:00. | :52:04. | |
Bedfordshire. Where are all these guns coming from? That actually, in | :52:04. | :52:10. | |
the town, and I have been for a long time, they are being passed | :52:10. | :52:15. | |
around for money. What the police have done is they have put images | :52:15. | :52:18. | |
in the local media of people walking around with machine guns | :52:18. | :52:23. | |
that gives the impression that most Jan people in our town I'm fired -- | :52:24. | :52:28. | |
of violence and their his gang war going on. There is a tiny minority | :52:28. | :52:34. | |
of young people that have an issue, it is a tiny minority. The | :52:34. | :52:37. | |
overwhelming majority are positive and doing good things. It is only | :52:37. | :52:40. | |
in the last few weeks that the Troubles have hit the headlines | :52:40. | :52:44. | |
again and we have seen increased police activity. I have done a lot | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
of work with Bedfordshire police in the past but not the new crime | :52:48. | :52:52. | |
commissioner. I think there is a leadership role. I have never met | :52:52. | :52:55. | |
him. I would challenge him to come and see our group and see what we | :52:55. | :53:02. | |
are doing. Please come and see what we are doing on the streets. | :53:02. | :53:06. | |
would say to him that you probably need to up the public perception of | :53:06. | :53:10. | |
what is happening, because it does not come out on the streets as | :53:10. | :53:14. | |
though it is happening that way. anything more goes wrong, his | :53:14. | :53:20. | |
standing and his position is reducing all the time. | :53:20. | :53:22. | |
Well, earlier this week Etholle George spoke to the Police and | :53:22. | :53:25. | |
Crime Commissioner for Bedfordshire, Olly Martins. She began by asking | :53:25. | :53:28. | |
him how he would respond to the comment that Marsh Farm is | :53:28. | :53:34. | |
perceived to be just like Dodge City. | :53:34. | :53:37. | |
What I hear from people is that there is quite strong support for | :53:37. | :53:41. | |
the response that the police have now put in there. The most | :53:41. | :53:46. | |
important thing is that this does not become the norm. The extended | :53:46. | :53:50. | |
use of stop-and-search powers, the armed police walking around the | :53:50. | :53:56. | |
estate, must not become the norm. As I say, at the moment, people are | :53:56. | :53:58. | |
saying it is an appropriate response to the situation we have | :53:59. | :54:02. | |
seen in the last few weeks. Where are the guns coming from and where | :54:02. | :54:06. | |
can you not get rid of them? As you heard in the report we are talking | :54:06. | :54:12. | |
about a very small number, a very small criminal element in the west | :54:12. | :54:16. | |
of Luton, of perhaps 20 or 30 people. We have to keep things in | :54:16. | :54:21. | |
perspective. This is a big test for your role. People are expecting you | :54:21. | :54:26. | |
to do something. Yes, that is why I thought it was important to go out | :54:26. | :54:30. | |
with a local member of parliament and the local council to listen to | :54:30. | :54:34. | |
people and hear what they have to say about the situation. With due | :54:34. | :54:39. | |
respect, you have had six months to let that visit and yet it has taken | :54:39. | :54:43. | |
six months to do so. Well, I am the Police And Crime Commissioner for | :54:43. | :54:47. | |
the whole of Bedfordshire. I have had quite a lot of other things to | :54:47. | :54:52. | |
do in the last six months, including appointing a new chief | :54:52. | :54:56. | |
constable and I do live in the town of Luton so I have a fairly good | :54:56. | :55:00. | |
understanding of the challenges that we face here. With due respect, | :55:00. | :55:04. | |
his and guns and gun crime on the streets of Luton higher up your | :55:04. | :55:10. | |
agenda? Well, it is, and what we need to see is that these things | :55:10. | :55:15. | |
come in cycles. A few years ago we had a similar spate of incidents | :55:15. | :55:19. | |
which ended in a large gang being broken up and sentenced to a long | :55:19. | :55:24. | |
time in prison. What I want to try and achieve as police and crime | :55:24. | :55:29. | |
Commission is to stop a cycle, to workout who are the young people | :55:29. | :55:33. | |
who are at risk of becoming criminals, and interrupt that | :55:34. | :55:37. | |
journey so that we can stop the cycle of criminality and violence | :55:37. | :55:42. | |
that sometimes seems to afflict our town. Let us finally talk about the | :55:42. | :55:45. | |
last six months. Other aspects of the job that looking back you feel | :55:45. | :55:55. | |
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you would have done differently? I don't think so. It is quite a | :55:55. | :55:59. | |
challenge. I am presented with a blank sheet of paper and cities a | :55:59. | :56:05. | |
job that no one has done before but if I wanted an easy life I would | :56:05. | :56:09. | |
not have stood for this job. I stood for it because I wanted to | :56:09. | :56:13. | |
make a difference and that is what I am determined to do. Thank you | :56:13. | :56:15. | |
very much. In view of all the serious crime we | :56:15. | :56:20. | |
have seen, has he made enough of the difference? I think he is doing | :56:20. | :56:25. | |
the best he can under difficult circumstances. Obviously, I was a | :56:25. | :56:29. | |
national role model and we used to go into schools and work on very | :56:29. | :56:32. | |
similar issues, tried to intervene before young boys went into the | :56:32. | :56:36. | |
criminal justice system. It was a scheme that was closed down in 2010, | :56:36. | :56:40. | |
one of the first acts of the coalition government a false | :56:40. | :56:45. | |
economy if you ask me. What Ollie Martins is facing an all Police And | :56:45. | :56:49. | |
Crime Commissioner as are facing his massive cuts to Policing, 20% | :56:49. | :56:53. | |
cut to Policing. I know they have to save �35 million alone in | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
Bedfordshire and that will have an impact on community policing. | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
Bone, do you think the new role of Police And Crime Commissioner as is | :57:01. | :57:07. | |
effective in tackling serious and violent crime? Well, it seems to be | :57:07. | :57:10. | |
working in Northamptonshire. Adams Simmons is a first-class | :57:10. | :57:16. | |
commissioner and we have seen crime falling. I run a constant survey, a | :57:16. | :57:20. | |
tracking survey in my constituency listening to Wellingborough and | :57:20. | :57:24. | |
Rushton and crime used to be the number one issue when Labour was in | :57:24. | :57:28. | |
power and that has now dropped to the 4th issue in the survey. It | :57:28. | :57:31. | |
seems to be that what we are doing here is working and that is the | :57:31. | :57:37. | |
general picture across the country. I think if we are driving crime | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
down we must be doing something right. Crime commissioners are | :57:40. | :57:45. | |
working there, do you agree? No, I think Ollie Martins is doing the | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
best he can but the reality is that they are dealing with being under | :57:49. | :57:52. | |
resource than they also feel that their priorities are quite unclear. | :57:52. | :57:56. | |
I think we were not in favour of them and we are still not in favour | :57:56. | :57:59. | |
of them. OK, well, before we say goodbye, | :57:59. | :58:02. | |
Deborah McGurran has been looking at the right time to go and | :58:02. | :58:05. | |
graceful exits in our political round-up of the week. Here it is, | :58:05. | :58:13. | |
all in 60 seconds. The immigration minister visiting | :58:14. | :58:17. | |
Cambridge was told that these -- visa restrictions for students who | :58:17. | :58:22. | |
come here to study English must be relaxed. The clear message from the | :58:22. | :58:26. | |
Government is that Britain is open for both business and sturdy for | :58:26. | :58:30. | |
people around the world. Norfolk schools when the news for the wrong | :58:30. | :58:35. | |
reasons as Ofsted raised concerns about 17 of them and six went into | :58:35. | :58:39. | |
special measures. Abbesses leader claims the loss of the East of | :58:39. | :58:43. | |
England Development Agency have made in -- life more difficult for | :58:43. | :58:47. | |
technology start-ups in Cambridge. When it was closed down funding | :58:47. | :58:52. | |
went and it was a policy disaster which had a big impact on the small | :58:52. | :58:55. | |
start-up companies that were innovating around Cambridge. | :58:56. | :58:59. | |
proposed new leader for Norfolk County Council might be considering | :58:59. | :59:04. | |
when is the right time for a dignified exit after being rejected | :59:04. | :59:10. | |
at a vote this week. association with the incinerator | :59:10. | :59:19. | |
developments is something to close to many people will to support. | :59:19. | :59:23. | |
have seen dignified exits from Alex Ferguson and David Beckham, what | :59:23. | :59:28. | |
can politicians learn from them? Well, we do not really have that | :59:28. | :59:32. | |
problem because we normally get fired long before away retirement | :59:32. | :59:36. | |
date. That is the great advantage of the system, you can do them up. | :59:36. | :59:40. | |
I guess the one person at the moment who might be thinking about | :59:40. | :59:43. | |
a dignified exit is Nick Clegg. He has taken his party into government | :59:43. | :59:48. | |
and driven them down in the opinion polls and probably wants to exit to | :59:48. | :59:52. | |
Europe as a commissioner. Clive, when do you think it is time? | :59:52. | :59:58. | |
think all politicians could learn from Sir Alex Ferguson's politics, | :59:58. | :00:03. | |
he is a lifetime the Labour supporter. And the coalition should | :00:03. | :00:08. |