12/02/2012 Sunday Politics North East and Cumbria


12/02/2012

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A rule North East, shed thousands of new houses be built here. If not,

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1700 seconds

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or where? Battle-lines are drawn up A warm welcome to the local part of

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the show. Coming up. 36,000 new homes but at what price to the

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countryside? We hear from the critics and the council. Joining me

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it is the blithe MP Ronnie Campbell. Let's start with the bowling number

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of young people looking for work. We have had a report from this week

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from the Commission on youth unemployment chaired by David

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Miliband. He argues the government to take emergency action. What are

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you seeing amongst the young people in your constituency? There has

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been a 25% increase in young people unemployed and the last year which

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is unacceptable. What is the cost of that? At is enormous. The cost

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to them, they have to be kept by their families most of the time,

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and that is just a waste of my young life. We have to get them

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started and walk as soon as possible. It must be worrying for

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anyone planning to leave school this summer with no jobs there?

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This government did not invent youth unemployment. It has been

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increasing since 2003 and have a problem the country. Even with a

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booming economy, there was still on employment and you have to wonder

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at the deeper causes and what measures we can take. I must say

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that one of David Miliband's ideas about the effects of directly

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elected mayors as a good one. will come back to that. The stats

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do not make for good reading. David Miliband highlighted hot spots

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where the numbers seeking Jobseeker's Allowance a double the

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national average. How tough as it out there? Our reporter has been to

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County Durham to make one young man looking for work. I am 20 p and

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have been unemployed for three years. -- 23. I get good support

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here. They have sat down with me and reassessed my CV. I have worked

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more to put what I'll do that and not what I am not good at. I went

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to college and study brickwork, passed the course and while I was

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there, I was doing English and IT courses and passed them as well.

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When I came out of college, it was bad timing for Brick Lane. There

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was no work in their construction industries. It was hard to find

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anything then. I am currently applying for any type of work,

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general factory work. Most of the time I am not getting any response

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at all. I am sending applications of and not heaving but anything

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that from employers. I am being turned them down because I have got

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no experience but nobody is giving me an opportunity to gain that

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experience. Nobody is letting me have buffeted the door so it is a

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vicious circle of how do I get employed if nobody gives me the

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chance? What is the Employment Minister

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say? Chris Grayling was here this week and he denies Labour's claims

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of complacency and talks of Investment be made in the regional

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economy. This is a part of the country we want to see succeed. It

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has some pretty long lasting challengers, things that go back

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years. We really want to help turn this region around and there are

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some great business success stories here are already. People doing

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wonderful things and some world beaters around here, but we want

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more of them. He said unemployment started rising

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before this Government came into office. What would you say to James

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as jobs are not there, what can be done? A word of criticism here

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about local labour. People I know who run businesses here cannot get

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the right people, people with engineering skills. People are

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being trained for the wrong things in our view. In the building trade?

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Surely that is a scale we always beat. He did not choose wrongly.

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is cyclical. There is a crisis there just now so somebody whose

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team specifically and that is going to struggle whether he is young or

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old. We had an opportunity and Darlington to Have I University

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technical college specialising in Engineering which would actually

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guarantee posts for suitably qualified young people which are

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not there at the moment and it was turned down. There is a general

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Work Programme which is showing encouraging trends but when

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Government millions after a delay because of protectionism it will

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not do. I do not know the details of that so cannot commit. The

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government is doing what it can with work programmes and

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apprenticeships. As far as I can see, most of the jobs they

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government are producing lasts only a year. Is that not what Labour did

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as well? Of course we get. We would not repeat that mistake. A lot of

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companies are taking apprentices on and what we need to do is get these

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lads into work and give them apprenticeships, some kind of scale

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in the end. After that, we need to pick the economy up and what we

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have always said is that we have to have growth. We will get nowhere if

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we're going to stagnate. The answer is not what Labour has been

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suggesting which is that we spend more? Are you do not spend more

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because you get that money back because the Golan to other jobs and

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they pay taxes and insurance. UK money in the long run. Isn't the

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Government responsible for failing to invest in infrastructure in the

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North East? We have just come out of a period of decades of huge

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public spending and look where it has got us in terms of the broader

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economy. When spending quite a lot, unemployment was at the lowest it

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been for quite a while? You cannot just build houses. It is an

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extremely complicated business involving planning, the state of

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the economy, mortgages and all the rest. You cannot magic up houses

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without huge borrowing. What we can do is train young people in things

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that are more likely to gain employment in skilled engineering

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and manufacturing. That is a success story in this region.

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36,000 new houses on Tyneside, with around backwater been built on the

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green belt. That is the plan. They will either swamp existing

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communities or perhaps provide badly-needed homes for those who

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cannot get onto the housing mother. First, I've been to meet some of

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those fighting the development. You could be forgiven if a feeling

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which are deep in the countryside. Goss was part nature reserve as the

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Newcastle's green belt. To the astonishment of locals, Newcastle

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council believes the field for next door are suitable for hundreds of

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new homes. This is not a zoo. Wildlife needs that land to forage

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for food. People have been very angry and upset and very

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disbelieving in what the council is proposing. If they had their way,

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the consultation period would have been over in the twinkling of an

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eye. It is not just about the wildlife but about democracy and

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people's rights to be able to say what they think about the area.

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campaign won the support of their local MP. Their main concern they

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raised was to do with the number of houses there are looking to develop

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because people have very serious concerns that we are perhaps over

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developing the city at the time of economic recession. Those houses

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may actually not be needed and the long-term. Other rural idles at

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risk as well. This could become part of a large new suburb of

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Newcastle. These fields could be competed over. Goodbye to raising

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cattle and hello to 6500 new homes. Should those concerns halt house

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building in its tracks? One of the argument begins groups like the

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cells is that we just do not want something on our doorstep. This

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bland as a great resource for Newcastle and once it is built on,

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that is lost forever. We shouldn't be going down this road. Their

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plans stretch beyond Newcastle's boundaries. This is across the

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border in Northumberland but thousands of new -- Newcastle homes

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will now be on its doorstep. This could put extra strain on the roads

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here in week to a shortage of places in local schools and because

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of this, the local Conservative MP as dead against Newcastle's plan.

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We do not understand why they are not building on brownfield sites.

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Why they are not filling in the empty homes. They should be doing

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that and not paving over green fields with executive homes that

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are not needed. The government's proposed relaxation of planning

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laws to make this much easier is changing the rules of the game.

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is the government framework that started it all off and has started

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a whole catalogue of proposals. Not just here but across the urban

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fringe and that is threatening wildlife. We feel that we're

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fighting battles that we one years ago. Although the focus is on the

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Tyneside green belt today, similar battles will be fought all across

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the North. With me now it is at Newcastle

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councillor. You put together a Labour and Conservative MP with

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serious considerations about your plans. Do you except you have got

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this badly wrong? We need to change the plans and he will do that at

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the end of the month. Some of the term is used in that bill were a

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little misleading. This was always only the basis for consultation.

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What we will come back with his a lot more plans to build on

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brownfield sites. Why come up with these proposals to build next to a

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nature reserve? Why did they come up and the first place. Their

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counsel have to find more money elsewhere and borrow capital might

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have used elsewhere. To build on brownfield site is more expensive

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which is why it the end of the month we will announce a new fund

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to push harder on to brownfield sites. The Government is making us

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do that unless we can find ways to build on brownfield more. We are

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arguing first for more money from government to develop brownfield

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areas but we will need to use money to build on greenfield site for

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more affordable homes. Offering housebuilders the carrot of open

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countryside is what they want? need to find 21,000 new homes in

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Newcastle before 2030. The bulk will be on brownfield sites. The

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last thing I came into politics to do is build on fields. We'll try to

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do it as little as we can. He had so we will make sure that where

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possible we will push to build on brownfield sites. This we have

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listened to the local MP and they agree with her. Ian Gow latterly,

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the council has taken a lot of flak but this is down to government

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proposals? They have removed some of the it sentence. We have

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attention here between the need for housing and the push to build a

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more affordable housing and that the same time it will cause a row

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which is giving more power back to local people and communities. There

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is conflict here. The people of Tyneside do not feel empowered.

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you may well fed here that there is, like trade union negotiations, you

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ask for more than expected get. MPs, as a trade secret, fight battles

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they expect to lose. Who knows the outcome of this particular issue. I

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do agree with you on brownfield sites. In the public sector, up

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good building land has hoarded the and the biggest Borders are the

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Royal Mail and the BBC. How dare you! They are now going to be

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required to release some of that. A lot of that is not heavily

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industrialised but it is brownfield that has been used very gently.

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Before we accuse, we should or can our own backyards. I look forward

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to moving families to the squalid conditions are my office. The first

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thing you need to do is build on the brink filled six. You must do

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that. Not everybody wants to live on brownfield sites. That is why

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housing developers like these green field site because they can sell it

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at a higher premium. I can imagine somebody wants to live in a lovely

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place like Goss had parked but then again, up a lot of people want to

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live where the work is which is in the town. She are you concerned by

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a lot of the council's building large number of houses when there

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is already quite a lot of empty homes. There is a problem with

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empty homes and we cannot push that agenda. There are going to be a lot

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of houses built their. Some of the communities like Blyth Ashingdon,

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if the Blues and part of their population will that be a problem?

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Sh I know where they are earned they are going to be built on land

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that is my argument. My argument is let's go for the brownfield site

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first and then decide, if Brownfield is all gone and there is

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unavailable, you may have to start arguing about that. I know you look

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forward to the next but of the show. It must be something to do with the

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music. Here is the regular catch up on the week's political events and

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At �21 million flood defence scheme is to go ahead and more to it. The

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minister said it would help prevent a repeat of 2008 flooding.

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The amount of subsidy given to offshore wind farms should be cut.

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This was by one of 100 Tory MPs who have written to the Prime Minister

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of the issue. The government had been encouraged

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to carry out a national audit to find out how much asbestos is in

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school buildings. There are 140 school teachers in a

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died from asbestos-related illness and last 10 years. Finally,

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passionate people, passionate places - he's up for sale. This was

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lodged in 2005 but with -- the government wants all his assets

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sold off including its famous slogan.

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One thing not mentioned is the news about the RMT's Valley airport

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which has announced the sale to peel Holdings. Is that good news?

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The airport was staring administration in the face if this

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did not happen so of course it is good news. Let's see what they

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propose to do with it. It is a victory for common sense. Three or

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four years ago, this company owned the airport and were accused of

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running it down. How much faced the you have that the new owner is

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serious? Their track record is less than great but they are the only

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show and pounds a let's get behind them. MPs' pay mentioned there. You

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work hard for so do you not want a pay increase? I don't think people

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see it that way but you're right. Being a great trade unionist I

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always demand a pay rise, I always have. Now they have to put my hand

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up and actually voted against them if it does come in for us. I do not

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think it well and I think we're being told we will not get it this

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year. That will be two years running. We may get 1% in 2013.

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That must be right at a time when other employees are having their

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wages squeezed? I can hear people crying at home thinking about you!

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You're saying to me, don't worry, take a wage freeze... Everybody is

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getting a wage freeze. When is it going to be politically acceptable

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for an MP to get a pay increase again? Abbot of purging has to go

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on before the government -- the people look favourably on it. Their

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government her new to the profession and are not the people

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who got it into trouble. It will be a year or two yet. We will have to

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