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In the north-east and Cumbria, the private company brought in to | :01:32. | :01:38. | |
tackle youth unemployment into the north-east. Candy's methods stop a | :01:38. | :01:48. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2125 seconds | :01:48. | :37:13. | |
Thanks Andrew and a warm welcome to the local part of the show for the | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
North East and Cumbria. Coming up: The private company brought in to | :37:17. | :37:20. | |
tackle youth unemployment on Teesside. Can they turn around | :37:20. | :37:26. | |
young lives? We've a special report. My guests are the Newcastle MP Chi | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
Onwurah who this week tore into the Chancellor accusing him of treating | :37:29. | :37:33. | |
people on benefits in the North East as "work-shy scroungers". Also | :37:33. | :37:35. | |
with me, Conservative councillor in Northumberland, Wayne Daley who as | :37:35. | :37:43. | |
far as I know didn't have a go at Mr Osborne. Welcome to you both. | :37:43. | :37:49. | |
Let's start with the Autumn Statement. Your starter for 10. | :37:49. | :37:57. | |
is not good for the north-east and Cumbria. The Chancellor is going to | :37:57. | :38:03. | |
a contract. It is not growing. In the north-east, we know that if we | :38:03. | :38:08. | |
are going to get Investment and the economy growing, as we had in the | :38:08. | :38:17. | |
past under the RDAs, but economic production is not going up. Let's | :38:17. | :38:23. | |
these that for the moment. When Daly, put the case for the defence. | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
Given the world economy, the Chancellor has done a tremendous | :38:26. | :38:30. | |
job in trying to pervert -- preserve the UK economy. There is | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
some good news in there for the north-east. This is something | :38:34. | :38:42. | |
people need to look at. �64 million investment in the A1. �64 million | :38:42. | :38:46. | |
of investment in the north-east. �17 million investment in brain | :38:46. | :38:50. | |
1,500 homes back into use in the north-east, which unsure Chi | :38:50. | :38:55. | |
Onwurah would support. I think they are things in particular which | :38:55. | :38:59. | |
corporation tax is going to help a lot of business. It is a difficult | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
time, it is a difficult world economy, but there just a has done | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
the best he can given a typical situation. More on that later. The | :39:07. | :39:12. | |
Chancellor did offer some investment in the A1. Faster proper | :39:12. | :39:18. | |
and in places like York. But most of it was about cutting spending. | :39:18. | :39:21. | |
The government of course as to convince voters that the pain will | :39:21. | :39:27. | |
be worth it in the end, and none of that is more true than in the | :39:27. | :39:33. | |
constituencies that the Conservatives must hold on to. We | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
go to Stockton South. When politicians go to the squeeze will, | :39:37. | :39:42. | |
there are a friend to couples like this. Amy Johnson is self employed | :39:42. | :39:47. | |
and a partner is a teacher. She says they have already lost �200 a | :39:47. | :39:52. | |
month in tax benefits. I am slightly confirmed -- concerned | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
about the 1% fee. Inflation is higher than that, so it is going to | :39:56. | :40:02. | |
be another price cut. They have been talking about stopping | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
paternity benefits and things like that. That is something we were | :40:06. | :40:14. | |
looking at, to have more children. But if we can't afford it, there is | :40:14. | :40:20. | |
going to be no extra support, be borne not be able to afford any | :40:20. | :40:26. | |
other children, and double BAA build shame. She is not convinced | :40:26. | :40:30. | |
the cuts are being made in the right places. At the end of the day, | :40:30. | :40:34. | |
we have to deal with this. They have been spending way beyond their | :40:34. | :40:39. | |
means for a long time. They have been a lot of promises and a lot of | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
contradictory stuff. What is being taken our way with one hand is | :40:43. | :40:49. | |
being given with another. I cannot seen - but I cannot see me being | :40:49. | :40:54. | |
Petrov any time soon. The charter says the economy are he -- the | :40:54. | :40:59. | |
economy is healing. Asked people in the constituency. It is very hard. | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
You do not know what is going to happen from one paid to the next. | :41:03. | :41:08. | |
At times they help the wrong people. They need to look at getting people | :41:08. | :41:13. | |
back into work, and support those, rather than penalise those that are | :41:13. | :41:19. | |
working. It is a difficult time for everybody, but the north-east seems | :41:19. | :41:24. | |
to be cursing from those thing. They are things happening in the | :41:24. | :41:32. | |
south but we do not get any benefit from. So art local businesses any | :41:32. | :41:42. | |
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Big business has got its percentage of corporation tax, but that does | :41:46. | :41:50. | |
not affect the small business at all. I would like to have seen | :41:50. | :41:54. | |
something along the lines of national insurance tax, which is a | :41:54. | :42:01. | |
tax on employees, upward like to have seen that being looked at, but | :42:01. | :42:08. | |
as for a small business, absolutely nothing. Wayne Daley, you saw Amy | :42:08. | :42:18. | |
Johnson there. She says she has been hit in the pocket. One of the | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
things we need to understand is that the charter says we are all in | :42:22. | :42:27. | |
this together. I know you make a mockery of it! But her child | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
benefit is being cut. On those points, even under the Labour | :42:32. | :42:40. | |
manifesto in 2010, public sector salaries were at 1%. We are just | :42:40. | :42:45. | |
matching benefits to public sector pay settlements. You're not helping | :42:45. | :42:51. | |
the very people you said he would help. In north-east, 10,000 people | :42:51. | :42:59. | |
have been taken out of paying any tax whatsoever. This is really | :42:59. | :43:06. | |
important. Pensions are not on a 1% cap. They will go above the rate of | :43:06. | :43:11. | |
inflation. Back to me, why should pensioners be protected? Some of | :43:11. | :43:16. | |
them will be much better off, and yet working families, a lot of the | :43:16. | :43:19. | |
benefits affect them. Back to the families who are working, one of | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
the things we have also done his counsel that per three p increase | :43:23. | :43:29. | |
in fuel, which will save �40 a year on fuel bills. We have done a lot | :43:29. | :43:34. | |
of things to support families. On the issue of pensioners, we are | :43:34. | :43:44. | |
going to move towards... And it is absolutely right that people go | :43:44. | :43:49. | |
were doing the right thing should not be penalised. Those people who | :43:49. | :43:53. | |
could work and should work should pay the price of doing that as well. | :43:53. | :44:03. | |
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Chi Onwurah, let's deal with the benefits. You said he would vote... | :44:03. | :44:07. | |
We have no details of what is going to be in the benefits of proposals. | :44:08. | :44:12. | |
What this government does repeatedly is to take things that | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
there is cross-party consensus on, changing the competition law for | :44:16. | :44:22. | |
example, and adding to those bills and things but we are strongly | :44:22. | :44:30. | |
against. Would you personally be against these caps on benefits? | :44:30. | :44:36. | |
am very much in favour of benefit reform, which ensures that it pays | :44:36. | :44:46. | |
to work, and on and ensure -- by in... It is Goadby people in work | :44:46. | :44:55. | |
that is going to be hardest hit by this. If you are not in this... We | :44:55. | :44:59. | |
need to see what is in it. We need see what the details of the changes | :44:59. | :45:06. | |
are. But taking �3 billion away from benefits in order to give �3 | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
billion in tax cuts to the very most wealthy, that is unfair, and | :45:10. | :45:16. | |
we definitely oppose that. But on the other side of that, under these | :45:16. | :45:21. | |
new tax regimes, there is one million more people in the 40 % tax | :45:21. | :45:29. | |
band. To say that we are somehow giving... But those people are | :45:29. | :45:38. | |
strivers. You are giving �100 -- �100,000 to people who own a | :45:38. | :45:44. | |
million, and you are taking away from people who are on just enough | :45:44. | :45:52. | |
to get by. They were not be taxed at all. We are getting people in... | :45:52. | :46:02. | |
If you were so vehemently opposed to it, won't she say you won't vote | :46:02. | :46:06. | |
against it? Star but a pen something towards it. If people are | :46:06. | :46:16. | |
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A wanted to bring it back to business. You mentioned corporation | :46:21. | :46:25. | |
tax. As you heard in that film, for the vast majority are small | :46:25. | :46:30. | |
businesses, the backbone of the economy, it makes no difference. In | :46:30. | :46:39. | |
its defence took Martin axils. not the Chancellor, -- | :46:39. | :46:47. | |
multinationals. It was one of Labour's brilliant ideas Turk put | :46:47. | :46:52. | |
National Insurance Cup. I think we could do more for those small | :46:52. | :46:56. | |
businesses. One of the things we can do is to create an economy that | :46:56. | :47:01. | |
is flourishing, and that is what we need to do. The danger here is that | :47:01. | :47:07. | |
you have lost the big argument, because a lot of people have bones | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
with individual cuts, but they broadly agreed. And absolutely, and | :47:11. | :47:15. | |
that is what we said before we went into the election. We are going to | :47:15. | :47:20. | |
cut the deficit over two terms, and George Osborne said that it had to | :47:20. | :47:25. | |
be done over five years. They cut massively out of a our economy. | :47:25. | :47:33. | |
They took billions in order to get it been want Parliament. But are | :47:33. | :47:39. | |
they achieving it, no. One example for businesses. They cut | :47:39. | :47:43. | |
manufacturing capital allowances. They have now brought bad back. | :47:43. | :47:53. | |
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The economy will never get back on track as long as tens of thousands | :47:59. | :48:02. | |
of young people are languishing on the dole. But how to get them into | :48:02. | :48:05. | |
training or work when they've left school, often with no | :48:05. | :48:07. | |
qualifications, and with little self-esteem? Well the Government's | :48:07. | :48:10. | |
Youth Contract aims to tackle that - by using private firms to target | :48:10. | :48:13. | |
the young unemployed and get their lives back on track. I visited one | :48:13. | :48:15. | |
company in Teesside to find out more. | :48:15. | :48:18. | |
It starts today 10am Cole. Hi-tech, it is Lehane calling. It is just to | :48:18. | :48:26. | |
let you know that day, our driver, will be picking you up at 10:45am. | :48:26. | :48:29. | |
From the office, they are making sure the people are getting out of | :48:29. | :48:34. | |
bed. They are targeting people with no qualifications and no jobs. | :48:34. | :48:38. | |
These people are not going back into the classroom -- classroom. | :48:38. | :48:43. | |
They are going climbing. We need to find innovative methods to engage | :48:43. | :48:48. | |
with them. We can use sport, the media, whatever we can do to engage | :48:48. | :48:56. | |
with people. It is is not just to tempt the young people in. It is to | :48:56. | :49:02. | |
help their confidence climb. Part of the training, what we are | :49:02. | :49:05. | |
delivering is to get rid of the shyness and for you to build your | :49:05. | :49:11. | |
self-esteem. Small steps bed with a big encouragement. Get one hand on | :49:11. | :49:17. | |
here. Now it has jumped up. Yes, well done! Good effort. There are | :49:17. | :49:27. | |
other cheerleaders. Young people who were unemployed ones but are | :49:27. | :49:33. | |
now employed our role models. come down to their level, and for | :49:33. | :49:37. | |
them to understand. They can understand me, and know that they | :49:37. | :49:44. | |
can trust me. I am just trying to show that it can be done, that is | :49:44. | :49:50. | |
their routine. Is the getting there rooting, bacon just get in a better | :49:50. | :49:56. | |
life just by helping themselves. this will not rather cosy? Is the | :49:56. | :50:02. | |
changing their lives? It could be seen as a reward for failure. The | :50:02. | :50:08. | |
government -- the company says it can put in some other messages. | :50:09. | :50:13. | |
There is an element of tough love. If you do not engage with | :50:13. | :50:17. | |
programmes and training, they are more likely to be committing crime, | :50:17. | :50:25. | |
the more chance there is of growing up on benefits. And the children | :50:25. | :50:29. | |
growing up on benefits. The summer the are people here, that is | :50:29. | :50:35. | |
hitting home. I have no DCS seize on anything. This has given me the | :50:35. | :50:40. | |
way forward. Maybe it can get the qualifications and work. I am going | :50:40. | :50:49. | |
forward in life. Others badly behaved. I turned myself around, | :50:49. | :50:59. | |
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came here, got work. There is a mountain to scale. One in five | :51:02. | :51:12. | |
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The End goal has to be an employment. It should be gauged | :51:12. | :51:17. | |
towards a road of employment. So far, private companies have not | :51:17. | :51:22. | |
been a runaway success. Targets have been missed. It is too early | :51:22. | :51:27. | |
to say whether the use contract will be more successful. If these | :51:27. | :51:35. | |
young people's do not find jobs, the company does not get paid. | :51:35. | :51:42. | |
Let's get a trade union perspective. You should be applauding this? | :51:43. | :51:49. | |
Certainly, it is very positive. It is good see young people taking | :51:49. | :51:55. | |
early to in other young people. We do not know if it is going to be | :51:55. | :51:59. | |
working. Work programme has been a disaster. The statement in the | :51:59. | :52:04. | |
House of Commons this week, but unemployment is going to go up for | :52:04. | :52:10. | |
the next two years. It is going to come down after that. It may get | :52:10. | :52:16. | |
higher. The taxpayer cannot Mulhouse. If there is good work, it | :52:16. | :52:20. | |
is rewarded, and if it doesn't... That is one aspect. The problem | :52:20. | :52:27. | |
with youth contract is that there is too little, and employers... | :52:27. | :52:37. | |
so brilliant pounds. But it is delivering. -- �1 billion. It is | :52:37. | :52:44. | |
not making the slightest dent of youth unemployment. The Autumn | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
Statement revise the Peter how far unemployment. He said it was going | :52:48. | :52:53. | |
to go up by a certain extent, but it's just that this is working. | :52:53. | :53:02. | |
see that as a strategy failing. But we are going seek high unemployment | :53:02. | :53:06. | |
for the next two years. I would rather see a different method in | :53:06. | :53:16. | |
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place. Using Prime -- private companies did not deliver. Why | :53:17. | :53:21. | |
should we believe this will be any better? Private companies have been | :53:21. | :53:26. | |
delivered for number of years. Debra Brazil by the previous Labour | :53:26. | :53:31. | |
government. But this only started in April. So it is very, very early | :53:31. | :53:37. | |
days to seek success. The one... is not hard to read what is | :53:37. | :53:43. | |
happening in the work programme. If I can just answer that up. The | :53:43. | :53:47. | |
issue about the work programme is that that was started at a time | :53:47. | :53:52. | |
when there was a massive downturn in the economy. By definition, then | :53:52. | :53:56. | |
they didn't quite reach their targets. You have rightly | :53:56. | :54:00. | |
identified that unemployment will not be catfight. Going back to the | :54:00. | :54:07. | |
issue, it is important that the feature on the -- focus on the | :54:07. | :54:16. | |
Select Committee, said that the use played is a good idea. It is a good | :54:16. | :54:23. | |
start. But we need to do more. I agree, but we needed invest in our | :54:23. | :54:29. | |
young people. They are given a chance that they were never be | :54:29. | :54:36. | |
given. But the government are backing quite a liberal approach | :54:36. | :54:44. | |
here. What the government is doing here, and firstly, the use contract | :54:44. | :54:49. | |
may have started in April, but we can get a good idea at the level of | :54:49. | :54:52. | |
the sex from the work programme. And I support innovative solutions | :54:52. | :54:59. | |
to get young people into work, but this is no need -- by no means an | :54:59. | :55:04. | |
Nath investments. But payment by results does not allow those who | :55:04. | :55:08. | |
have the funding and the backing to wait two or three years to see what | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
the results are. We have very little details on these contracts. | :55:13. | :55:19. | |
We saw what happened with the work programme. This is just the funding | :55:19. | :55:24. | |
but the last government put in for jobs and for young people, and it | :55:24. | :55:29. | |
may be a big difference. It cost a lot less. Is it all about the | :55:29. | :55:39. | |
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money? The future jobs funk. Unemployment was rising quite a lot. | :55:39. | :55:44. | |
It is not all about money, but we need an approach that looks at | :55:44. | :55:50. | |
education and the support that it needs. The thing with youth | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
unemployment is that that unemployment having early in the | :55:54. | :56:02. | |
Korea, that is the most devastating impact. The costs continue in our | :56:02. | :56:09. | |
economy for decades to come, so this approach is not enough to help | :56:09. | :56:17. | |
our young children. Now: there's a bit of a retro feel to the | :56:17. | :56:20. | |
political news this week with the miners' strike again making the | :56:20. | :56:23. | |
headlines. With a round-up of the week's events in 60 seconds here's | :56:23. | :56:26. | |
Mark Denten. A man whose still got his 80s collection of Human League | :56:26. | :56:33. | |
and Kajagoogoo singles but not unfortunately his full head of hair. | :56:33. | :56:37. | |
unfortunately his full head of hair. A campaign has begun to crush the | :56:37. | :56:42. | |
criminal convictions of many striking miners. Men arrested on | :56:42. | :56:47. | |
that people -- picket line were not criminals, according to this man. | :56:47. | :56:50. | |
They have not done anything wrong. They be doing their jobs and paid a | :56:50. | :56:56. | |
heavy price. Jamie Reid has welcomed the creation of jobs at | :56:56. | :57:01. | |
Sellafield. He said that West Cumbria was at centre of global | :57:01. | :57:11. | |
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excellence. Good news it in Sunderland, where this factory -- | :57:11. | :57:17. | |
back using sun and, by this factory is closing. I swear by Almighty God | :57:17. | :57:24. | |
but I will be swearing true allegiance to at her Majesty's | :57:24. | :57:34. | |
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He took the oath with two other winners of recent elections. -- by- | :57:35. | :57:41. | |
elections. I wanted to ask you about some of | :57:41. | :57:49. | |
the miners' strike confrontations. A if he feels that there is enough | :57:49. | :57:51. | |
evidence for the convictions to be evidence for the convictions to be | :57:51. | :57:55. | |
quashed, I have apps in no problem supporting it. What we have seen | :57:55. | :57:59. | |
under the judicial system that we have seen the bloody Sunday Review, | :57:59. | :58:04. | |
the Hillsborough repute. I think if there has been a miscarriage of | :58:04. | :58:12. | |
justice, we need is the natural justice take place. There has to be | :58:12. | :58:17. | |
a review, and any conviction that is unsound and wrong is to be | :58:17. | :58:21. | |
overturned. I have no problem supporting him. Is it really worth | :58:21. | :58:28. | |
the time and effort to open all of these cases? You are absolutely | :58:28. | :58:34. | |
right to consider the money it cost, but the miners' strike but was | :58:34. | :58:40. | |
really critical in present regional history. What has emerged from the | :58:40. | :58:45. | |
queue up to us back Hillsborough inquiry is that there is a | :58:45. | :58:50. | |
deliberate effort to criminalised the striking miners, partly to get | :58:50. | :59:00. | |
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them out of picketing, but also just to get them out of the media. | :59:00. | :59:07. | |
That is an abuse of power on the part of the police, and it is | :59:07. | :59:13. | |
important. There's a lack of confidence. Are there police | :59:13. | :59:20. | |
officers that should be prosecuted? That is a difficult question. When | :59:20. | :59:26. | |
a police officer who deliberately sought to criminalise something -- | :59:26. | :59:34. | |
someone who was innocent, that is a preacher public trust. I would | :59:34. | :59:39. | |
certainly support the call for an inquiry. Robert support the call | :59:39. | :59:46. | |
for those who may have been adversely affected by this. Whether | :59:46. | :59:53. | |
his responsibility, I do think people are answerable. Chi Onwurah, | :59:53. | :59:58. | |
Wayne Daley, thank you very much. And that's about if from us. Much | :59:58. | :00:01. |