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In the North East and Cumbria: Labour moves towards a new goal of | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
full employment. But is it possible? | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
And the North Yorkshire villagers sending food parcels to | :01:28. | :01:38. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2148 seconds | :01:38. | :37:26. | |
Middlesbrough. That's in half an Hello and a warm welcome to your | :37:26. | :37:30. | |
local part of the show. This week: Can we ever get back to full | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
employment in the North East and Cumbria? Labour thinks so but how? | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
And are we becoming too reliant on these, food banks, and the | :37:37. | :37:41. | |
volunteers who keep them going? That's two of the questions I'll be | :37:41. | :37:43. | |
discussing with my guests, Newcastle MP Catherine McKinnell | :37:43. | :37:47. | |
and Northumberland councillor Wayne Daley. And if you're wondering what | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
we've done with Richard, we've given him the week off for good | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
behaviour! But let's start with the week's big | :37:53. | :37:56. | |
talking point, and a Teesside MP has thrust himself right to the | :37:56. | :38:00. | |
centre of the debate over Europe. Stockton South's James Wharton is | :38:00. | :38:03. | |
to put forward a backbench bill which could pave the way for a | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
referendum to be held before 2017 on the UK's membership of the | :38:06. | :38:16. | |
European Union. He says it's time to give the public a say. I hope | :38:16. | :38:19. | |
when it is brought before Parliament that other MPs from | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
other parties will be able to support it and agree with me that | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
whatever you think about Europe and our relationship with it, the map | :38:26. | :38:29. | |
and need to be settled and people need to be given a choice. | :38:29. | :38:32. | |
The move hasn't gone down well with many North East Labour MPs, among | :38:32. | :38:34. | |
them Gateshead's Ian Mearns and Sedgefield's Phil Wilson, who say | :38:34. | :38:37. | |
that rather than debating Europe Parliamentary time would be better | :38:37. | :38:44. | |
spent on measures to get people back to work. Wayne Daley, that is | :38:44. | :38:49. | |
the point, isn't it? It is a distraction, rather than talking | :38:49. | :38:52. | |
about stuff that people care about, jobs the health service and the | :38:52. | :38:57. | |
economy, we have this Enders navel- gazing over Europe. We are talking | :38:57. | :39:02. | |
about his jobs and the economy, that is the prime focus of the | :39:02. | :39:06. | |
government, but it is legitimate that we make a decision over Europe. | :39:06. | :39:10. | |
We joined in 19 to be five after a referendum, which I am old enough | :39:10. | :39:15. | |
to remember, and we voted to join what we thought was a common market. | :39:15. | :39:18. | |
Now we have a very different being. I think it is important that for | :39:19. | :39:22. | |
once and for all, the British people have the decision as to | :39:22. | :39:25. | |
whether we are part of the European Union or we go out on the road and | :39:26. | :39:29. | |
trade with the rest of the world. That is an important thing. We've | :39:29. | :39:34. | |
would not even be having these votes if the, some -- if the | :39:34. | :39:40. | |
Conservatives were not terrified of losing votes to UKIP. Not at all. | :39:40. | :39:47. | |
The local elections were a mixed bag, all the parties lost votes to | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
UKIP. They have raised an issue which has been burning at the heart | :39:50. | :39:56. | |
of British politics for decades. I support the decision. Why not give | :39:56. | :40:05. | |
people a choice on Europe? Labour is not against a referendum in | :40:06. | :40:10. | |
principle, it is just the wrong plan to focus on this. We should | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
have all our efforts focused on the economy, getting jobs and growth | :40:14. | :40:18. | |
which is the biggest concern that people had a. Isn't the real | :40:18. | :40:25. | |
reason... It is a bad time to be talking about this because the | :40:25. | :40:29. | |
discussion will destabilise this. But Labour are pretty conscious, | :40:29. | :40:34. | |
with an array that the Poles are going, -- with the way that the | :40:34. | :40:39. | |
Poles are going, you would lose any referendum. It is a bad time | :40:39. | :40:42. | |
because we need to focus a discussion on reforming the | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
European Union and getting things improved and a better deal for | :40:46. | :40:49. | |
Britain. We acknowledged that, we need to go into Europe with a | :40:49. | :40:55. | |
strong hand and go into reforming a new single market for us to trade | :40:55. | :41:01. | |
in. We could talk about this all week. | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
Now, our top story this week is the growth of food banks in the region. | :41:05. | :41:08. | |
New figures show a 500% increase in the number of visits to food banks | :41:09. | :41:12. | |
in the North East and Cumbria. Most of them are run by volunteers or | :41:12. | :41:15. | |
churches and rely on donations of food from local residents. Should | :41:15. | :41:18. | |
the Government be embarrassed by the rise of the food bank or is it | :41:18. | :41:21. | |
evidence of the big society in action? Political reporter David | :41:21. | :41:26. | |
Macmillan went to find out. These ladies live 30 miles apart, | :41:26. | :41:28. | |
one in a picturesque North Yorkshire village, the other in the | :41:28. | :41:33. | |
heart of one of our biggest towns. They have never met but a vital | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
connection has connect - develop find them -- between them. One is | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
put in a food parcel together. It is not being sent overseas for a | :41:41. | :41:45. | |
famine appeal or as a response to a natural disaster. I have just | :41:45. | :41:50. | |
bought some non-perishable foods for Middlesbrough food bag. Mainly | :41:50. | :41:56. | |
jars of pasta sauce and some rice and tinned vegetables. From the | :41:56. | :42:02. | |
supermarket in the Thirsk the food is taken to a collection box | :42:02. | :42:08. | |
outside a village hall for. surely we were shocked, it is a | :42:08. | :42:14. | |
difficult for people, my experience is that people cannot help this. It | :42:14. | :42:18. | |
is a situation they find themselves in. I understand that by the time | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
they turn up at a food bank, they have often gone a day or more | :42:22. | :42:27. | |
without food. It is really difficult for them. The collections | :42:27. | :42:32. | |
are packed and sent up the road to the Middlesbrough food bank. Since | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
April, up to 100 people have been coming through the doors here every | :42:35. | :42:41. | |
week looking for help. Maria is one of them. By the time you have paid | :42:41. | :42:46. | |
your electric, gas, your television licence, you don't have enough | :42:46. | :42:51. | |
money left for food. If it was not for the food bag, I would not be | :42:51. | :42:55. | |
able to afford to get along. Maria lost her job, she is about to lose | :42:55. | :43:00. | |
her house. I had to go on jobseeker's allowance, and that | :43:00. | :43:05. | |
money does not go anywhere. I was struggling to pay my mortgage. | :43:05. | :43:12. | |
Without the food bank, and the support I have had from them, I | :43:12. | :43:18. | |
don't know, I think I was really getting depressed. I think I would | :43:18. | :43:24. | |
be very depressed. One difference has it made your ability to feed | :43:24. | :43:31. | |
yourself and your grandchildren? feel a lot better, because I hate | :43:31. | :43:37. | |
having empty cupboards. Even if you have got a bag of rice, you make | :43:37. | :43:41. | |
something. I feel like I am begging sometimes, I have never had to do | :43:41. | :43:45. | |
it before, I have always been in work. If there was not the food bag, | :43:45. | :43:52. | |
people would be living on the street and begging. One community | :43:52. | :43:55. | |
helping out another in a time of need, the Big Society in action or | :43:55. | :43:59. | |
an indictment of government policy? And joined by Nigel Perrott, who | :43:59. | :44:06. | |
runs the food and in that report. You are increasingly busy, why? | :44:07. | :44:11. | |
are seeing far more people are not being able to put anything aside. | :44:11. | :44:14. | |
So they are already on a low income, some people are on benefits and | :44:14. | :44:19. | |
some people are just on the short contracts, hours, things like that. | :44:19. | :44:23. | |
Basically, they just do not have anything to put by with an | :44:23. | :44:29. | |
emergency Kip in. Big benefits changes, have there been any | :44:29. | :44:35. | |
difference is? We have been seen an increase, some of that is due to | :44:35. | :44:39. | |
the publicity of the food bank, but we have seen people coming through | :44:39. | :44:42. | |
because of a benefit change or withdraw that has led for whatever | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
we and, -- whatever reason, they have had a bill come in they have | :44:47. | :44:53. | |
not been able to pay it, so it has been a case of eat or heat. | :44:53. | :45:00. | |
head in that report, people not be able to eat for a few days, surely | :45:00. | :45:07. | |
it is not that bad? Sa do, it is. We see people coming through the | :45:07. | :45:11. | |
door who have not eaten for a couple of days. The help has been | :45:11. | :45:16. | |
there for them but they have felt ashamed for coming into a food bag. | :45:16. | :45:21. | |
What sort of situations are we seeing, that people in the 21st | :45:21. | :45:24. | |
century, they have not got enough to eat a? Simply things like, if | :45:24. | :45:28. | |
you have got to rent arrears for whatever reason, if you are paying | :45:28. | :45:32. | |
extra for a spare bedroom or something like that, normally you | :45:32. | :45:35. | |
would be able to pay VAT and suddenly at the end of the week you | :45:35. | :45:40. | |
realise you have paid that and there is nothing left over. Those | :45:40. | :45:44. | |
cupboards can soon disappear. you have got a big demand, how do | :45:44. | :45:50. | |
you insure your giving food to the right people, you get people? | :45:50. | :45:55. | |
not have to rely on the kindness, we rely on the expertise of the 45 | :45:55. | :45:58. | |
different agencies to work with very closely in Middlesbrough, | :45:59. | :46:02. | |
social workers, health visitors, housing associations and so on. | :46:02. | :46:06. | |
They are seeing the need first hand and going into people's houses and | :46:06. | :46:10. | |
seeing these families and individualss going hungry and they | :46:10. | :46:19. | |
refer them to a us. Wayne Daley, it is a terrible indictment of your | :46:19. | :46:22. | |
Government's economic record, that we need to have food bags like the | :46:22. | :46:28. | |
one that Nigel runs? One of the reasons that food banks are | :46:28. | :46:31. | |
increasing is because it was the coalition government he allowed | :46:31. | :46:35. | |
food banks to be advertised in Jobcentres. The previous Labour -- | :46:35. | :46:41. | |
as the previous Labour government did not. It is problems that people | :46:41. | :46:44. | |
have with the economic situation and the government the policy -- | :46:44. | :46:49. | |
the policies the Government has put in place. I think clearly what it | :46:49. | :46:53. | |
is, it is the fact that they are much more widely publicised now | :46:53. | :46:57. | |
they have ever been. People are aware of it. They will start to use | :46:57. | :47:02. | |
it. There are issues that have come out of the use of food banks, the | :47:02. | :47:06. | |
trust that operate the move indicates that one of the biggest | :47:06. | :47:10. | |
reason that people need to use it is the delay in payment of benefits. | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
That is what governments need to tackle because people, if they are | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
paid benefits on time, can afford to be put cells. You are | :47:18. | :47:23. | |
effectively, these are volunteers, they are not paid by the government, | :47:23. | :47:29. | |
they get no government fat -- money for this organisation. Isn't it | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
very dangerous when you have got people and a system that relies on | :47:34. | :47:39. | |
volunteers to feed people? I take my hat off to these guys because I | :47:39. | :47:44. | |
think we are doing a wonderful job. This is Big Society, of course it | :47:44. | :47:48. | |
is. This is people have been other people at a very difficult time in | :47:48. | :47:52. | |
their lives. The big picture of this is, we have got to turn the | :47:52. | :47:57. | |
economy round and there are people out there who are hurting a lot. At | :47:57. | :48:02. | |
these guys are helping. Agassi will say these food banks are there | :48:02. | :48:05. | |
because of the government policies, you have got to applaud what they | :48:06. | :48:09. | |
do, people helping each other in tough times come it is a co- | :48:09. | :48:14. | |
operative movement. I very much applaud the work that they do, they | :48:14. | :48:22. | |
are helping people out of a desperate situation. I find Wayne's | :48:22. | :48:24. | |
response incredibly complacent about the role that government | :48:24. | :48:27. | |
plays, because people's living standards are being squeezed to | :48:27. | :48:33. | |
such an extent. I was looking at some figures, one in five mums are | :48:33. | :48:39. | |
going without a map of Lille to feed their children, -- are going | :48:39. | :48:49. | |
without eight meal to feed their children, food banks see a rush in | :48:49. | :48:54. | |
the holidays. One a way you are not allowed them to be promoted? We did | :48:54. | :48:59. | |
not have the squeeze that we have have. We did not have the bedroom | :48:59. | :49:04. | |
tax. I think what they're doing is wonderful, but it is clearly there | :49:04. | :49:09. | |
is a problem. There are government needs to take a more proactive | :49:09. | :49:14. | |
approach to. -- but government is to take a more proactive approach. | :49:14. | :49:19. | |
What does that mean? Turning the economy round to supporting jobs | :49:19. | :49:23. | |
and growth, getting people into work where they can, and not | :49:23. | :49:29. | |
slapping on taxes like the bedroom tax which is pushing people over | :49:29. | :49:38. | |
the edge. Labour have said that... We must leave it there, we must | :49:38. | :49:40. | |
move on. The number of people unemployed has | :49:40. | :49:43. | |
fallen slightly in Cumbria this week, but gone up again by about | :49:43. | :49:53. | |
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1,000 in the North East. At 9.8% it's still the worst in the country. | :49:54. | :49:56. | |
The Government says policies like the Regional Growth Fund are | :49:56. | :49:59. | |
helping private firms create hundreds of new jobs. While Labour | :49:59. | :50:02. | |
this week called for a new target, full employment. But is that even | :50:02. | :50:05. | |
possible? I went to find out. Business secretary Vince Cable at a | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
clothing factory in South Shields this week. He came not just with an | :50:09. | :50:13. | |
interest in jackets but with money from the regional growth fund. It | :50:13. | :50:19. | |
will help create over 130 jobs. This company is a brilliant British | :50:19. | :50:23. | |
company, expanding and selling all over the world, a famous brand -- | :50:23. | :50:28. | |
brand and employing local people. The regional growth and walk help | :50:28. | :50:32. | |
them expand further with a factory and as gills academy which is | :50:32. | :50:36. | |
training the next generation. are taking on machinists and other | :50:36. | :50:41. | |
schools to expand capacity so we can export and go into areas such | :50:41. | :50:46. | |
as Asia. The other jobs are within warehouse and customer services as | :50:46. | :50:50. | |
we expand online as well. While any job creation is welcome, this week | :50:50. | :50:54. | |
we also had bad news. The unemployment figures for the region | :50:54. | :51:04. | |
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are up, still the highest in the country. Once upon a time, | :51:05. | :51:09. | |
sometimes just 3% of people were unemployed. Those days have gone | :51:09. | :51:15. | |
for good, haven't they? This man does not think so. The shadow work | :51:15. | :51:17. | |
and pension Secretary Liam Byrne was in red car, looking at the | :51:18. | :51:21. | |
scheme training young unemployed people to drive. He has a jelly in | :51:21. | :51:26. | |
mind as well, not just a spin around the block. -- A journey in | :51:26. | :51:33. | |
mind. The what a national strategy to take us to fall in employment -- | :51:33. | :51:41. | |
We need to put the something for something back into the so crucial | :51:41. | :51:48. | |
security system so people who pay in get more back out. It is a | :51:48. | :51:51. | |
national task. We have done this before, we did it in the 1940s, it | :51:51. | :52:00. | |
is how we rebuilt Britain after the war. We did it in the late 1990s, | :52:00. | :52:05. | |
we rebuilt the public services. We need to pay down the debt faster, | :52:05. | :52:08. | |
changed social the kitty for the better, you need to get the country | :52:08. | :52:14. | |
back to work. Getting jobs back to the factories may be easier said | :52:14. | :52:18. | |
than done. The closest the north- east has come to full employment | :52:18. | :52:28. | |
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was in April 1924, 3.7 -- April 1974, 3.4%. It was then January | :52:31. | :52:35. | |
2005. This week's figures show it live at 8% and one in the region. | :52:35. | :52:41. | |
While the government has its own job-creation policies, like the | :52:41. | :52:45. | |
regional growth fund, Labour has a jobs guaranteed. People who have | :52:45. | :52:48. | |
been out of work for two years would get part-time work. The | :52:48. | :52:56. | |
government would pay them a minimum wage, and it would be up two-thirds | :52:56. | :53:00. | |
to pay for the training. This boss likes the idea. They have taken on | :53:00. | :53:03. | |
for operation ship -- apprentices. The jobs guarantee might mean they | :53:03. | :53:09. | |
take on other workers as well. of the opportunities is you can | :53:09. | :53:13. | |
road-test the person, you get a chance to size them up and vice | :53:13. | :53:18. | |
versa. If it fits, you can consider longer term in front. One is the | :53:18. | :53:24. | |
chance of getting full employment in the north-east? What is -- it is | :53:24. | :53:34. | |
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a fantastic challenge. My personal view is it is a pipe dream. | :53:43. | :53:48. | |
One of your party's ideas is to create jobs, isn't it an idea it to | :53:48. | :53:54. | |
-- isn't it just creating artificial jobs which would only be | :53:54. | :54:02. | |
there for six months as like we want to put in a guarantee that | :54:02. | :54:11. | |
in... -- we want to put in a guarantee paid for by a bank Leddy. | :54:11. | :54:19. | |
If you leave people out of work for two years, it can become entrenched. | :54:19. | :54:23. | |
So this would enable businesses to invest and grow up because they | :54:23. | :54:28. | |
invest in their workforce, they are able to grow and expand and those | :54:28. | :54:33. | |
jobs to become permanent. I know this jobs guarantee is not a policy | :54:33. | :54:37. | |
yet, we do not know whether it will be in the manifesto even. Would | :54:37. | :54:42. | |
people of that scheme be forced to take jobs that they were given even | :54:42. | :54:47. | |
if they were not qualified for them or had no experience? Do they have | :54:47. | :54:51. | |
to like it or lump it and lose benefits? We have got a very clear | :54:52. | :54:59. | |
line on this. It has to work both ways. People take work and if they | :54:59. | :55:05. | |
refuse it it will be sanctions. a chef could be asked to work in a | :55:05. | :55:11. | |
factory? I will not go into that much detail. The point is, it is a | :55:11. | :55:16. | |
real job for someone out of work. I know that the people who talk to be, | :55:16. | :55:19. | |
if they are not in work, and they have never worked, they are | :55:19. | :55:21. | |
desperate for work experience because that is what they need to | :55:21. | :55:25. | |
get into the jobs market. If they have been unemployed for two years | :55:25. | :55:30. | |
or more, people would happily take any job on offer to fund their | :55:30. | :55:36. | |
families. It is a really important scheme, why did he commit to it and | :55:36. | :55:41. | |
say that you are going to do it if you are elected in 2015? We are | :55:41. | :55:47. | |
saying that the government could could be doing this now. Let's be | :55:47. | :55:52. | |
honest, the benefits bill is going up and not down. The government is | :55:52. | :55:56. | |
seeing an increase and that is why their borrowing is going up, they | :55:56. | :56:02. | |
are borrowing to a double to �5 billion more than they Plaid. | :56:02. | :56:05. | |
government has their own schemes which are not working, unemployment | :56:05. | :56:14. | |
is going up. They are working, with Vince Cable we have announced jobs | :56:14. | :56:22. | |
being created, 450 jobs created which is going to be invested in | :56:22. | :56:26. | |
the north-east. The regional growth fund is designed to protect jobs. | :56:26. | :56:31. | |
In my area of Northumberland, we have been awarded �12 million to | :56:31. | :56:36. | |
protect jobs and attract inward investment. Sir why it is it not | :56:36. | :56:41. | |
falling? The north-east has benefited from the highest falling | :56:41. | :56:45. | |
rate in the country. We have seen in the latest figures an increase | :56:45. | :56:50. | |
of 1000 which is terrible, it absolutely is. I do not like it. If | :56:50. | :56:54. | |
we were sitting in Spain now, they would be looking at us saying, why | :56:54. | :56:59. | |
are you arguing? We have got 52% of young people unemployed. On the | :56:59. | :57:05. | |
regional growth fund, it is handing out money, but it seems to be the | :57:05. | :57:09. | |
big boys getting it. It is Pirelli and Barbara. The message seems to | :57:09. | :57:16. | |
be, we will support the big firms, the small firms can go hang. | :57:16. | :57:20. | |
need two more for business start- ups and we need to do more for | :57:20. | :57:25. | |
those smaller businesses. When Vince Cable came up and we promote | :57:25. | :57:30. | |
the regional growth funds, we need to get more of those businesses | :57:30. | :57:35. | |
getting something out of it. He had been in since 2010, why has it not | :57:35. | :57:43. | |
happened before? It has not been happening them. We need to get that | :57:44. | :57:50. | |
going. Your party has a special for for an implement, it is totally | :57:50. | :58:00. | |
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unrealistic? -- a fall employment? Is have to be an aspiration, it is | :58:02. | :58:07. | |
the only way to power this company back into -- country back into full | :58:07. | :58:13. | |
work, one of the other sucking statistics is that the majority of | :58:13. | :58:17. | |
people going to food back -- shocking statistics is that | :58:17. | :58:21. | |
majority of people going to food banks are in work, they just cannot | :58:21. | :58:25. | |
afford food. Have you been abandoned the idea of for imply | :58:25. | :58:34. | |
that? Absolutely not, we need to create an economy which is dynamic. | :58:34. | :58:37. | |
The Government has unveiled plans to make it easier for victims of | :58:37. | :58:39. | |
asbestos-related cancer to claim compensation even when the | :58:39. | :58:43. | |
companies they worked for no longer exist. But the Bill, contained in | :58:43. | :58:48. | |
the Queen's Speech, hasn't satisfied some campaigners. Here's | :58:48. | :58:58. | |
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more on that and the rest of the Cumbria County Council is to be run | :59:03. | :59:05. | |
by a Labour or Liberal Democrat coalition after a deal was hammered | :59:05. | :59:10. | |
out between the parties. Japanese company Hitachi has signed a | :59:10. | :59:19. | |
development contracts in the area which should create 700 jobs. A new | :59:20. | :59:29. | |
Bill designed to con the disasters of grey does not go far enough. | :59:29. | :59:34. | |
the Deputy Prime Minister agree with me that it is wrong and unfair | :59:34. | :59:37. | |
that the leeches in the insurance industry who are bankrolling the | :59:37. | :59:41. | |
Tory party are getting away with millions and millions when working- | :59:41. | :59:44. | |
class people who have been negligently poisoned by their | :59:44. | :59:49. | |
employers are getting away with nothing? Finally, a small | :59:49. | :59:55. | |
independent tour should be given the same business rates relief as a | :59:55. | :59:58. | |
charity shops according to a local MP, who says the move would boost | :59:58. | :00:02. | |
high street trade and create jobs. And that's about all the time we | :00:02. | :00:05. | |
have for this week. There's no Sunday Politics next weekend. But | :00:05. | :00:09. | |
Richard will be back in this seat on June 2nd. In the meantime you | :00:09. | :00:12. |