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appetite for a European referendum? And National Parks accused of | :01:20. | :01:30. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2167 seconds | :01:30. | :37:38. | |
Is there an appetite for a European referendum among James Wharton's | :37:38. | :37:40. | |
Stockton constituents? We'll be finding out, while the | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
chairman of UKIP in the North East, Richard Elvin, I think we know how | :37:44. | :37:46. | |
he'd vote, and Conservative Peer, Lord Bates, give us their view. | :37:46. | :37:49. | |
Also, they look after some of our most beautiful landscapes, but are | :37:49. | :37:52. | |
the people running our National Parks guilty of ignoring the | :37:52. | :37:59. | |
concerns of local people? We report from the Lake District. We start | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
with a topic that I imagine will happily shouting at the television. | :38:03. | :38:10. | |
Should our MPs get a �10,000 rise? I cannot hear any yeses. Many of those | :38:10. | :38:17. | |
MPs say they do not want to accept it anyway. Michael Bates, this is an | :38:17. | :38:23. | |
issue you feel strongly about. It cost you your job at one stage. | :38:23. | :38:32. | |
in similar circumstances. An independent body came up with a | :38:32. | :38:40. | |
recommendation for a 30% increase -- 13%. When you are in parliament, you | :38:40. | :38:44. | |
are a public sector worker. You must lead by example and that is what I | :38:44. | :38:48. | |
think MPs should do. You voted against it then and only got sacks, | :38:48. | :38:54. | |
which I suppose is a change of culture, really, isn't it? Most MPs | :38:54. | :39:01. | |
wouldn't spare to say that they deserve this. Times have changed. I | :39:01. | :39:07. | |
do understand some of the members who get very frustrated at the guy | :39:07. | :39:13. | |
who oversees their expenses and gets paid more than them. He seems to | :39:13. | :39:18. | |
feel that they get paid too much. I understand the frustration, but the | :39:18. | :39:21. | |
point of the matter is that these are very difficult times for many | :39:21. | :39:27. | |
people. People are seen their wages under pressure. If you have two | :39:27. | :39:32. | |
retained that trust, you must lead by example. Richard Elvin, I'm sure | :39:32. | :39:38. | |
that you agree, but this was taken out of MP 's hands. You can't win. | :39:38. | :39:45. | |
Someone else says that they deserve a pay rise, why not give it to them? | :39:45. | :39:50. | |
Yes, it is independent, so the MPs have to accept the recommendations, | :39:50. | :39:54. | |
but Parliament can introduce emergency legislation to override | :39:54. | :40:03. | |
that. I would hope that Mr Cameron would do that. How much wood and MP | :40:03. | :40:11. | |
-- how much should an NPB page? Apparently, there was a survey done | :40:11. | :40:17. | |
of all the people in the UK and the general consensus was that MPs pay | :40:17. | :40:25. | |
should be cut by �10,000 per year, not increase. I would agreed that a | :40:25. | :40:31. | |
pay cut could be in order. We need to look at the pay and the expenses | :40:31. | :40:35. | |
and I think there is a big argument to say that they should be paid one | :40:35. | :40:45. | |
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lump sum of money and that is it. RNAs you have to be careful that you | :40:49. | :40:59. | |
don't skew the system to those who are independently wealthy. | :40:59. | :41:01. | |
suggestion on this is that it should be done Parliament to Parliament. He | :41:02. | :41:06. | |
sets the rate for the job and if you are elected by your constituents, | :41:06. | :41:12. | |
you go on and you serve. A new set of terms and conditions will apply | :41:12. | :41:22. | |
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from the next general election and the law, what Bill would you put | :41:25. | :41:29. | |
before Parliament? James Wharton got that opportunity this week. On | :41:29. | :41:34. | |
Friday, he puts forward his bill to make sure a referendum is held | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
before 2017 on whether we want to stay in the European Union. Many | :41:38. | :41:48. | |
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conservatives have supported him, With the MP round here making his | :41:57. | :42:05. | |
own law, what do his constituents think of his priorities? Is able | :42:05. | :42:10. | |
European referendum to their taste? There is a continental atmosphere | :42:10. | :42:18. | |
here. Downstairs, local voters are tucking into their tap class and a | :42:18. | :42:23. | |
European referendum is not everyone's priority. Housing, I | :42:23. | :42:29. | |
would suggest. There are many developments that have been paused | :42:29. | :42:33. | |
that I don't think have been right to the town. That would be more of a | :42:33. | :42:39. | |
priority. Immigration is quite important, not many jobs here for | :42:39. | :42:43. | |
our own, so that would be my thoughts. But also a group of is | :42:43. | :42:48. | |
this leaders who are preoccupied with the parking charges in the | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
town, so you may think that the Europe bill would be irrelevant to | :42:52. | :43:00. | |
them. Wrong. I feel that it is an issue for a lot of people and the | :43:00. | :43:06. | |
debate needs to be had. We have been dictated to by Brussels, when we | :43:06. | :43:11. | |
should be dictating our own direction. I welcome having a | :43:11. | :43:19. | |
referendum. Whether you are for it or against it, there's no doubt that | :43:20. | :43:24. | |
you are talking about a massive issue. It will drive the debate. | :43:24. | :43:30. | |
What people think about this matters here. Stockton South is a marginal | :43:30. | :43:36. | |
seat. His majority in the last election was only 332 votes. Despite | :43:36. | :43:46. | |
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the support his vote Bill got from MPs, it could this is one of the | :43:48. | :43:53. | |
issues that matter. People deserve to have a say on this. It has | :43:53. | :43:59. | |
changed out of all recognition. The time has come for that referendum. | :43:59. | :44:04. | |
But it isn't the single biggest issue, it is one of many. I am | :44:04. | :44:09. | |
pleased to work on behalf of my constituents. The Labour MP up the | :44:09. | :44:13. | |
road think this has less to do with Europe and more to do with political | :44:13. | :44:19. | |
calculation. This is to do with him saving his skin. UKIP are on the | :44:19. | :44:23. | |
horizon and I think he is looking over his shoulder at them. I think | :44:23. | :44:28. | |
he is wasting his time. Only eight people have contacted me in the last | :44:28. | :44:36. | |
four or five weeks about Europe. We want jobs and growth, not to keep | :44:36. | :44:42. | |
talking about Europe. Should you be congratulating him to | :44:42. | :44:49. | |
get it into the Commons chamber? is only there because of UKIP's | :44:49. | :44:53. | |
influence. We brought it to the table. The genie is out of the | :44:53. | :44:58. | |
battle. We are pleased it is in the domain, but this does not change | :44:58. | :45:05. | |
anything, it is only reaffirming what Mr Cameron has already said. If | :45:05. | :45:09. | |
he gets free electricity with a majority and after he has been to | :45:09. | :45:15. | |
Russells and renegotiated, and he'll give us a referendum. We want a | :45:15. | :45:20. | |
referendum now. Over the last 25 years we have had four different | :45:20. | :45:26. | |
treaties signed which have eroded the sovereignty of this nation. And | :45:27. | :45:33. | |
the great British public has not been consulted. It is long overdue. | :45:33. | :45:40. | |
Why are we waiting until 2017? want to present a fair choice. We | :45:40. | :45:46. | |
want to present to people a reason to choice. I hope that we would stay | :45:46. | :45:50. | |
in Europe, I think it has many advantages. At Italy for a trading | :45:50. | :45:54. | |
region like the North East of England. -- particularly for a | :45:54. | :46:04. | |
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trading nation. He needs to... view might be that it is a promise | :46:04. | :46:10. | |
that he may not have to fulfil. It is a ROM is that we hope to fulfil | :46:10. | :46:17. | |
if we win the election. There's only one party that is offering that at | :46:17. | :46:21. | |
the present time and hope that people remember that when they go to | :46:21. | :46:31. | |
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the ballot. Actually, there are two whether we are in or out of the EU | :46:37. | :46:42. | |
is not the issue that matters most to someone who is unemployed. | :46:42. | :46:48. | |
Economic growth is what matters to them. I couldn't agree more. The | :46:48. | :46:52. | |
sooner we come out of Europe, the sooner we created that economic | :46:52. | :46:59. | |
growth. But we are only just having this debate. But what can we do | :46:59. | :47:08. | |
about it? That is the politicians' agenda at the moment. What they | :47:08. | :47:12. | |
should be doing is having a referendum now and gets rid of the | :47:12. | :47:18. | |
uncertainty. Get it out of the way and the uncertainty is over with. | :47:18. | :47:23. | |
Michael, is this not going back to the Conservatives just banging on | :47:23. | :47:28. | |
about Europe and not being in touch with constituents? Eight raised this | :47:28. | :47:35. | |
in the past few weeks and most don't care about it. I think the person | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
that captured it was the lady that said this has been going on for a | :47:38. | :47:45. | |
long time. I am 52 years old and I now have never had a vote on whether | :47:45. | :47:49. | |
we should be part of the European Union. It is a principal part of how | :47:49. | :47:54. | |
our laws are made. I think we should have a good discussion about how | :47:54. | :48:02. | |
Europe can be proved to be made more competitive and efficient. Is this | :48:02. | :48:07. | |
not just about jumping to UKIP's June? It is not about the good of | :48:07. | :48:13. | |
the country. I member the Green Party coming up as a single issue | :48:13. | :48:20. | |
group. But shouldn't you you be thinking about the good of the | :48:20. | :48:24. | |
country not the good of the Conservative Party? I think it is | :48:25. | :48:28. | |
healthy that UKIP have put this on the agenda. The Conservative Party | :48:28. | :48:35. | |
and James Wharton have picked it up and run with it and we are the only | :48:35. | :48:41. | |
once, I would argue, who can deliver it. Richard, if this becomes law, | :48:42. | :48:49. | |
why bother voting the UKIP? Because, as I say, for it to have any teeth, | :48:49. | :48:57. | |
Mr Cameron has to have a majority and be the leader of the party. The | :48:57. | :49:04. | |
point is that we don't want to renegotiate a deal with Europe and I | :49:04. | :49:06. | |
think a great percentage of the British public don't want that | :49:06. | :49:12. | |
either. We want to revert back to what we thought we were signing up | :49:12. | :49:22. | |
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travelling on a local trains have been highlighted in the Commons by N | :49:28. | :49:31. | |
MP who says his constituents are having to be pushed across the | :49:31. | :49:41. | |
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tracks in gaps between high-speed Rory Stewart has used a Commons | :49:46. | :49:49. | |
debate to call for a better deal for the disabled at his local station, | :49:49. | :49:53. | |
he said a lift was needed as the existing arrangements are | :49:53. | :49:58. | |
unacceptable. A19 it involves you being pushed across the great West | :49:58. | :50:05. | |
Coast Main line in the gaps between trains travelling at 125 mph, not | :50:05. | :50:11. | |
exactly the best conditions. Army centres close in the region despite | :50:11. | :50:19. | |
Government plans to increase the size of the territorial Army. The MP | :50:19. | :50:23. | |
for Blaydon has called by independent public inquiry into | :50:24. | :50:31. | |
policing during the Miners' Strike. Said many miners were arrested | :50:31. | :50:33. | |
unlawfully. Students from Ashington High School | :50:33. | :50:39. | |
have met John Bercow and the Lord Speaker. They were shown around | :50:39. | :50:49. | |
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Parliament in locations connected How can we look after the landscapes | :50:56. | :50:59. | |
of North Yorkshire and the Lake District while ensuring communities | :50:59. | :51:02. | |
thrive and tourists visit? That's what our National Park | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
Authorities are supposed to do. They have to try to protect the scenery | :51:05. | :51:09. | |
that's made them so special while also deciding how much of it can be | :51:09. | :51:16. | |
built on and developed. One MP says they are not listening enough. He is | :51:16. | :51:25. | |
our reporter. -- here is our reporter. | :51:25. | :51:30. | |
It has mountains, sweeping scenery and wildlife aplenty. But all is not | :51:30. | :51:36. | |
well behind the postcard views. feel frustrated, we feel hampered | :51:36. | :51:42. | |
every way we turn. Earlier this year, the non-elected members of the | :51:42. | :51:45. | |
national park planning committee rejected plans to build a zip wire | :51:45. | :51:53. | |
for the second time. The Lake District is a brand. It needs to | :51:53. | :51:59. | |
have reinvestment, it needs exciting new things happening to it. Nothing | :51:59. | :52:04. | |
has happened in 15 years, that I am aware of. We're just sat here as if | :52:04. | :52:11. | |
we have shackles. When not allowed to move upwards. -- we are not | :52:11. | :52:17. | |
allowed. He is not the only critic. There was upset here when planners | :52:17. | :52:27. | |
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refused to let this field be used as at at night were vetoed. We don't | :52:37. | :52:46. | |
think the special planning board lives around here. We are | :52:46. | :52:52. | |
consulted, and we live here. We don't want the place spoilt. But | :52:52. | :52:55. | |
when how decisions are ignored sometimes we win some, sometimes we | :52:55. | :53:01. | |
lose some. But the decisions taken by the board seem bizarre. It is not | :53:01. | :53:06. | |
already taken and refusals. Most are approved by the authority and some | :53:06. | :53:12. | |
say more thought is being given to business growth. They have changed a | :53:12. | :53:16. | |
lot in the ten years I have been working here and they genuinely | :53:16. | :53:20. | |
listen to the concerns of businesses. They don't always agree | :53:20. | :53:25. | |
with them or approve the application is that some businesses would like, | :53:25. | :53:32. | |
but there is a better dialogue and we are content that we can get an | :53:32. | :53:36. | |
audience and influence and change the way they think. If that thinking | :53:36. | :53:41. | |
doesn't go your way, there is not much you can do about it. The | :53:41. | :53:46. | |
members are recruited by district councils and the secretary of state, | :53:46. | :53:53. | |
Thompson calls for some members to be directly elected. People may say, | :53:53. | :53:57. | |
that's not build any affordable houses in this village, let keep it | :53:57. | :54:02. | |
as it is. The local people will say, hang about, how can a local | :54:02. | :54:08. | |
families and young people bring the lifeblood that we need unless you | :54:08. | :54:12. | |
build affordable homes. The same applies to farms and businesses. If | :54:12. | :54:18. | |
you have local people elected to the national park, you are more likely | :54:18. | :54:24. | |
to get those sensible decisions. Decision-making in National Parks | :54:24. | :54:28. | |
has been under review uses 2010 and it is hoped the eventual outcome | :54:28. | :54:33. | |
will allow it to keep that Beatrix Potter champ, as well as let it grow | :54:33. | :54:43. | |
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into the future. -- charm. I asked him if he thought that was | :54:45. | :54:50. | |
acceptable. It is not a Lake District National Park, it is a | :54:50. | :54:55. | |
National Park that happens to be called the Lake District. From the | :54:55. | :55:04. | |
earliest days, this has been a problem. How to be represented? The | :55:04. | :55:09. | |
solution they found was that the district, the stakeholders in the | :55:09. | :55:14. | |
park and the county is the territorial stakeholder, ought to be | :55:14. | :55:19. | |
the majority of people. The serving councillors are appointed to the | :55:19. | :55:23. | |
park as an outside body, and outside specialist Audie to serve. There is | :55:23. | :55:30. | |
no question of illegitimacy. I think people in the Lake District may | :55:30. | :55:34. | |
differ, but they think is that you aren't accountable to them because | :55:34. | :55:41. | |
there is no act link between them and you and you are making decisions | :55:41. | :55:49. | |
that affect their lives. We are not the sole body operating. They have | :55:49. | :55:54. | |
their full quota of County Councils and district councillors. They are | :55:54. | :55:59. | |
not the people taking planning decisions about their lives. | :55:59. | :56:01. | |
Accusations we have heard from businesses are stifling economic | :56:01. | :56:11. | |
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development. We are the only national park in England, we work | :56:17. | :56:24. | |
closely in insisting that Cumbria must have its own .Mac got it in the | :56:24. | :56:28. | |
end. The National Park has been in the end of that. We are not some | :56:28. | :56:35. | |
prefer a body that's just dabbles in planning, we are elected local | :56:35. | :56:40. | |
councillors, three quarters of us, and many of the people who are on | :56:40. | :56:46. | |
our board are serving councillors. To say we walked in off the road is | :56:46. | :56:52. | |
ridiculous. What would you say about your record in terms of the balance | :56:52. | :56:55. | |
between preserving the countryside and ensuring that people can get | :56:55. | :57:05. | |
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jobs? We wouldn't be at the centre. We work in partnership and most of | :57:08. | :57:13. | |
our work is days and increasingly as the cuts bite, a lot more will be, | :57:13. | :57:19. | |
it depends on the partnership working. Many of the people in the | :57:19. | :57:23. | |
bodies are local and some may be criticising us, I don't know, it | :57:23. | :57:31. | |
works and it is admired. We had a visit yesterday and they went away | :57:31. | :57:35. | |
shaking their heads in disbelief, not because we are not part of it | :57:35. | :57:41. | |
but because we are so central to it. Are lucky enough to have other parks | :57:41. | :57:50. | |
in the area. Is Tim Farron writes to say they should be more accountable? | :57:50. | :57:57. | |
Is it a good idea to have these positions are electable? I like the | :57:57. | :58:03. | |
idea of making it more accountable. Half of them are appointed by the | :58:03. | :58:08. | |
Department of culture, media and sport. I hope that people would take | :58:08. | :58:12. | |
a great deal more interest in the park and would seek to become | :58:12. | :58:15. | |
members of that. That would be a first step to have the debate out in | :58:15. | :58:20. | |
the open. But when you think about it, it is a terrible balance because | :58:20. | :58:27. | |
we enjoy the most beautiful of scenery. But we recognise that | :58:27. | :58:32. | |
people had to work and live there. Woody UKIP introduced collections to | :58:32. | :58:42. | |
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national parks? -- Woody UKIP. Absolutely. People want another set | :58:46. | :58:53. | |
of elections? The police commissioner on elections didn't set | :58:53. | :59:00. | |
the world alight. The thing about the National Parks authority, it is | :59:00. | :59:06. | |
basically a Government quango and they are notoriously expensive. The | :59:06. | :59:10. | |
Lake District National Park get �6 million worth of taxpayers funding | :59:10. | :59:16. | |
and of that, they only spend 7% on preserving the environment. They | :59:16. | :59:21. | |
spend 12% on the hierarchy of the people that have the top jobs, that | :59:21. | :59:27. | |
is �750,000 per year that go on a elected -- that go on unelected | :59:27. | :59:34. | |
people. People want more homes and jobs. There are many problems going | :59:35. | :59:39. | |
around in this country and I don't think our national parks that are | :59:39. | :59:45. | |
envied around the world are one of the biggest problems. What about | :59:45. | :59:49. | |
people that can't get a house vote? Mac it is not an issue the National | :59:49. | :59:59. | |
Park to address, it is to do with the local authorities. But It is a | :59:59. | :00:07. | |
point worth looking at. That is about it from us. Don't forget to | :00:07. | :00:12. | |
check out my blog online. You will find my profile of the man of the | :00:12. | :00:17. |