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And on the Sunday Politics North West:

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Celebrations in Ellesmere Port as the Vauxhall Plant secures its

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1803 seconds

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future. Is the region's car Hello, I am Annabel Tiffin. In the

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next 20 minutes: celebrations in Ellesmere Port as the Vauxhall

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plant secures its future. It is the region's car industry on

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the way up? And we held Rolf Harris, too! Would

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you believe it? Let me introduce our MPs for this week's programme.

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Stephen O'Brien for the Conservatives and Labour's Paul

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Goggins. For several months, a shadow has

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hung over the Vauxhall car plant at Ellesmere Port. General Motors said

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it had to shut the plant in Europe, and many feared that ours would be

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the one to go. This week, Vauxhall announced they would build the new

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Astra there, a multi-million pound investments securing thousands of

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jobs and creating 700 new ones. How did they manage it? And what does

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it say about the industry in general?

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Quietly and without fanfare they arrived. The business Secretary and

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the head of Vauxhall. He started his career at Ellesmere Port, and

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now he was back to sell it -- to save the plant. It is great for a

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young man like me, with a young family. I need a good job.

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Fantastic news and a well deserved for the whole workforce. Things

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have been uncertain here for months, with the European arm of the

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company making big losses for months. Some people feared it would

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be something as drastic as closing an entire plant that would be the

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solution. The plan asked for the new Astra and they got it.

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Ellesmere Port celebrates its 50th anniversary this year, a proud

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history in the region. What we have done with the allocation of the

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next generation of Astra to Ellesmere Port us to secure the

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manufacturing base well into the next decade. As well as

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safeguarding the jobs of everyone here, the deal to build the new

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Astra also means 700 new jobs are potentially thousands more in the

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supply chain. But to secure the car, they have had to make concessions.

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Staff have been under no illusions, the company said that there were a

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set of conditions that if you wanted the next after, he had to

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agree. It was up to the workforce, they were balloted and agreed.

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of workers voted Yes for the new conditions. It included a more

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flexible working, which means the plant can be open 24 hours a day 51

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weeks pair you. A Ford year pay deal, including a two-year pay

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freeze. Also a new pension deal for new stars. Everyone was the best

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deal and conditions, we still have decent conditions and decent be,

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but it is all worth it to keep yourself in a job. They will start

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constructing the new Astra here in 2015.

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The business Secretary Vince Cable was in Ellesmere Port for the

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announcement and he was asked about the choices the workers had to make.

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There will beat the shift working, it will be hard work. Given the

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choice between losing the plant and losing at a future and having more

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flexible working but very good job prospects, they made the right

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decision. And for the first time in a generation Cobby have a trade

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surplus in cars. Is there something we may see more of? The changes in

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terms of pay and conditions to secure jobs? I think that the trend

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is for maximum flexibility in the labour force. There is a positive

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side for workers as well, what the Government is proposing to do it in

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the Queen's Speech is to bring in legislation to help flexible

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working and family life, so flexibility is not just a negative.

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That may mean shift working, but it may also mean fitting in a more

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closely with the way families operate, so it is positive. So it

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is a trade-off, changing terms and conditions in order to secure her.

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But there has been a trade-off, but the labour force where over

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whelming. They were not divided, it was well over 90% support for this

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package. This is not just saving jobs, but there is now a real

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future for the next decade. Young people will come into the industry

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as apprentices and they can see a future in manufacturing and car

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production now. Joining me in the studio is Carol

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Williams from the University of Manchester, who is an expert in the

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car industry. Be heard Vince Cable say that futures are secure for the

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next decade, perhaps at Ellesmere Port, but what does it mean on a

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wider scale for the car industry in the north-west. We have the power,

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locally for Ellesmere Port it is a really good news story, because it

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saves 2,000 jobs. If you look at it regionally, nationally, the

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benefits are limited. The plant has, until recently, been assembling

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kits of imported components, and we do not have much of a supply chain

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around the plant. The company is promising to increase content from

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a very low level, but they must be held to those promises, and the

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region really needs to begin thinking about how, be on the

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assembly plants, be have supply chains which are in the long run

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clear to keep those plants going. So it is manufacturing that must be

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secured year to begin with? Stephen O'Brien, of Paisley as a Government,

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how will you build up that manufacturing? It is excellent news,

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and it is actually a good reflection, not just one all of the

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workers at Ellesmere Port who have demonstrated that broad flexibility

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that is so important for being able to sustain and be competitive,

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their great products and great skills that they bring to her

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apprentices also maps her future at, not just for Ellesmere Port but for

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the supply chain. There is a serious point to be made about how

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that is deepened in their national manufacturing base. We see as a

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Government to help create conditions to re-balance our

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economy back to worsen manufacturing and industrialisation.

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What can the Government to and to build on this good news?

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Particularly regarding what has been said about manufacturing?

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you saw there was everyone pulling together, not just the workers and

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union representatives, but also management and indeed the Secretary

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of State and the business minister, and I happen to have the Prime

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Minister had made phone calls. is talking about Vauxhall and

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Ellesmere Port and the workers there have had to make sacrifices,

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but on the wider point, how does this become good news for the

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region? I think it is an important aspect to try and secure his best

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we can the supply chain. It all must be competitive, it is very

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difficult if one was to seek to subsidise it, because that tends to

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be unsustainable. But it is at the bottom, it relies on good training,

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good and vocational and further education colleges, apprenticeship

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options, as you know they have been a nearly have a million of those

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that have been offered in the past 18 months, which has been a real

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turn around to help the sport is coming into our manufacturing.

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Goggins, DG agree with what Stephen O'Brien is saying? That this is

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what must be done to build manufacturing back-up, supplying

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the parts as well as putting them together? Of course that is what

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should happen. This is very good news for Ellesmere Port and their

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families and the wider community, because it gives them hope for the

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future. But there had young people in every constituency across the

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north-west there are asking today, what about us? What is our future?

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In the absence of any kind of proper strategy for growth from

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this Government, D are asking this question gain fame in many cases.

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There are 1,200 and people under 25 in my constituency who are

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surviving on benefits because there is no growth plan and no prospects

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for them. The mindset there must change. If would Labour have done

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anything differently than Vince Cable has done? One thing we would

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have done in relation to John people is that we would have a tax

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on banker's bonuses and put 100,000 young people into jobs. Let's stick

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to the issue with the motoring industry in the north-west, what

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would Labour have done to secure more jobs? Labour initiated some of

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the supply side reforms which a colleague was referring to the fore.

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This can feet 3 and provide more jobs on top of the jobs at the

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factory. This is important and we were actually doing that. We look

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back 30 years ago at what happened when we had a Government who had a

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hands-off approach to the economy and it is families and communities

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that suffer. My fear is that if we do not address this, not just in

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Ellesmere Port but across the region and nation, we will have

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another generation of young people disconnected from the jobs market

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with no hope for the future and none of us, whether we are in

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Government or opposition, should tolerate that. We have got to

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politicians you, what d'you think they should be doing to help the

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car industry? The politics very easily turns into Punch and Judy,

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and let's be clear, nobody wants to go back to the 1970s. P L subsidies

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and all of the rest. That is the 30 years ago. There is considerable --

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considerable scope for an active industrial policy. Outside of the

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parties, I would like to see both parties pressing for this kind of

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thing, for example, I would like to see the content level of the Astra

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published and I would like the company's promises on content at

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least publicly held to account. Now, the Olympics are just around

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the corner at a temporary change to the law first proposed by the Fylde

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MP Mark Menzies brings that supermarkets will be able to stay

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open for longer on Sundays during the Games. Smaller corner shops in

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the big supermarkets will run rings around them if they are able to

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stay open any longer, but some retailers are calling for a

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permanent change to the law. Bradley Wiggins is a gold medal

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winner. These are some of Great Britain's

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finest sporting achievements, but could dreams of an Olympic gold

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rush generate much-needed brass for the economy? The Government has

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changed the lot during the Games to me that supermarkets can stay open

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for longer on Sundays. It gives retailers the opportunity to open

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if they choose for those eight weeks of the Olympics and

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Paralympics, at one think that is certain is that the sort of people

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who would benefit from the additional hours will be people who

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work in shops. The little bit of additional overtime in the current

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climate, these people will welcome it. Cast your minds back to 1994,

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the year of the National Lottery, the Channel Tunnel and Britpop.

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That year saw a change in the lot that sop large shops to open for

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six hours on a Sunday, and for small corner shops to open all day.

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Customers do tend to back a lot more basket shopping.

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supermarkets able to extend their hours, smaller shops say they will

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lose out. If all supermarkets are allowed to open for this periods

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during the Olympics, people will tend to do what they do when they

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do their bit shocked, they will go straight out of their house, into

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the car and going to the supermarket, do their bit shop and

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go straight home. I think it is supermarket greed. They want to

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take everything they can from the market. It is nothing to do with

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the Olympics or anything like that. Meanwhile in Chester, this

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gardening centre wants to -- once a pamphlet extension of trading hours,

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they are fed up of turning customers away at 4:30pm on a

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Sunday. There is huge frustration when you turn up one minute after

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we have closed doors or on a Sunday, in the middle of the afternoon.

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People looking for some relaxation. We would like to open with

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consistency with the powers-that-be trade on during the week. It could

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add another 10% to their overall tunnel for and what the industry

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makes for the UK economy. Government says the change to

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Sunday Hours will only be for the period of the Olympics, but the

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union representing shop workers say that this could set a precedent

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that their members are not happy with. We have to all that was the

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politicians have said, that it is a temporary arrangement, but we are

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against it. Over 20,000 members that we surveyed were concerned

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that this will leave not a temporary arrangement for the

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Olympics, but a permanent one. The reasons they give for not wanting

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to do it is that they already feel they have flexible hours now and

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say they need some time on a Sunday to do things with the family.

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Sunday was once a sacred day of rest, but to shop opening times

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these to move with the demand to be 247 society? The shops open quite

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enough, and I think it puts quite a lot of pressure on workers. They

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will probably not get any extra, there are under pressure to work

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longer. I do not think it is acceptable for. I think it should

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stay open longer on a Sunday, because when I go out shopping with

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my friends there is nowhere to go because the river close early.

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you do it for the Olympics you will have to do it full-time. People

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will get used to it. You could do it as a pilot test. Do it for a few

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weeks to see if it works and if not then call it a day. It is 318 years

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since a change in the law allowed shops to open on a Sunday. Times

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have changed but the controversy has not gone away. -- it has been

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eating ears. As this a good idea, Stephen

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O'Brien? It is essentially a good idea for the Olympics, I think it

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is a perfectly satisfactory and sensible thing to do. It means we

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will have some activity here in Manchester for the north-west, and

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many people will attend the big screens. I think where we are is

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the right place to be. A what do you think, Paul? Are a very similar

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point of view. This is for a limited period, as long as people

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are not being forced to work on a Sunday, then it is fair enough. We

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will be in a very flexible summer. We'll have a great time this summer

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and the Olympic Games will make it very different. It cannot be used

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as a platform to then produce these as long-term changes and reforms.

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We must do something to keep Sunday special. It is interesting that you

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mention some things here in the north-west, that it limited. What

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benefit bill these longer opening hours on a Sunday during the

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Olympics have to the north-west? They us was considered by the House

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of Lords in the eyes of Commons, because inevitably most of the

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activity is down in London for the Olympics. But because people are

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watching at all on television, who are not able to get tickets, it

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will inevitably make everyone's weekend more different and whilst I

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think at the same time it does not actually break, because it is

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temporary, this idea of keeping Sunday somewhat special. But no

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workers are forced to do this. There will be no prejudice to their

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continued jobs. There is a risk that once something is in place and

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seems to work that it can just go in. There will be people who use

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this experience of the eight weeks to argue for the liberalisation of

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further change. I would be dead set against that. Partly because of the

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nature of Sunday, but also because the smaller stores, they have an

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opportunity perhaps by opening at different our sunny Sunday, that

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may be the difference between them going under and maintaining the

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business. You could say that times have moved on and we all work very

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different winner, and we want longer opening hours. They do

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indeed, but the law caters for that with the six-hour opening on

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smaller show that -- on a larger stores and the smaller stores can

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stay open if they want. People must be sure that this is no Trojan

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horse. The Government has made it clear that this is a quick bill, it

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has been properly scrutinised at it is for the purpose that it was

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declared. It is not a platform for those who would want to stop Sunday

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from being special. Let's get a look at the rest of the

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week's East. -- the rest of the week's news.

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The Prime Minister has said that he will much consider a -- that he

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will consider a serious case review following a conviction that from

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nine men in Rochdale for trimming young girls. The men were jailed

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for various sex offences against children. I understand that the

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local board has concluded a review that will be published. The Chief

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Constable of Merseyside has called on the Government to be tougher on

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gun crime after eight shootings in nine days last month. Jon Murphy is

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lobbying the Government for tighter border controls to cut down on the

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supply of weapons. He says he wants Tupper -- tougher punishments for

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offenders. Wider share County Council has this

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this concerns about the way it has managed its finances. The district

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auditor published a report earlier this year, it complains that there

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have been unexpected borrowing and a lack of oversight. The County

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Council said those issues are minor and will be sorted out.

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We promise you will harass earlier, and I would not like to disappoint.

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The Artist and all-round general superstar Rolf Harris has opened a

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major exhibition of his work at the Walker Art Gallery in Liverpool.

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One of his favourite subject at the Palace of Westminster, which he has

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painted many times. Our political editor Arif Ansari has been getting

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a break from politics this week and has gone along to meet Rolf Harris.

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You have painted Parliament many times, what has drawn me to end?

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Why have you done that? It is such an icon, isn't it? It is such a

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stately, gorges building. At such a tricky one to paint. It looks very

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straightforward, the side are parallel up to there and suddenly

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it goes slightly wider and if you make it to wipe it is wrong and if

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you make it not white enough it is wrong,. What draws you back to keep

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doing it? It is marvellous from any angle, from whatever -- from

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wherever you are. Particularly in different lighting conditions, if

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you get it like this in the dusk when the sky is the latest thing in

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the place as the building is a select, and you get this bird

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flapping across there, going across and the suspended lights on those

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wires. Every time it is a different image. It is a different picture.

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When you are painting it, is it purely about the Architecture, or

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RG trying to capture some of the meaning of the building and the

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draw politics that is going on in their? Time everything about the

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meaning of the building, I am just looking at the visual impact it has

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on me. What you paid it again? definitely will. I look forward to

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seeing it. It has been a great pleasure to meet you.

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What lovely paintings, it sent ridiculous but you forget what a

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fabulous artist he is. Absolutely. I would take any excuse just to go

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and meet him and see the paintings. I and not to politics for a that!

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It is a good break from serious politics. He will have to get your

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politics head back on, I am doing a break from this for a while to do

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