Browse content similar to 03/03/2013. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!
Line | From | To | |
---|---|---|---|
And on Sunday Politics in Northern And on Sunday Politics in Northern | :01:26. | :01:27. | |
And on Sunday Politics in Northern Ireland: The choice between a shared | :01:27. | :01:28. | |
Ireland: The choice between a shared Ireland: The choice between a shared | :01:28. | :01:29. | |
Ireland: The choice between a shared future and a scared future - the | :01:29. | :01:30. | |
future and a scared future - the future and a scared future - the | :01:30. | :01:30. | |
Alliance Party's Naomi Long explains Alliance Party's Naomi Long explains | :01:30. | :01:31. | |
Alliance Party's Naomi Long explains why she's not interested in the | :01:31. | :01:32. | |
why she's not interested in the politics of fear. | :01:32. | :01:33. | |
politics of fear. politics of fear. | :01:33. | :01:43. | |
:01:43. | :01:43. | ||
Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2194 seconds | :01:43. | :38:17. | |
Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland. | :38:17. | :38:18. | |
Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland. | :38:18. | :38:19. | |
The Alliance Party has been in the The Alliance Party has been in the | :38:19. | :38:20. | |
The Alliance Party has been in the The Alliance Party has been in the | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
eye of the storm since that vote in eye of the storm since that vote in | :38:22. | :38:23. | |
eye of the storm since that vote in Belfast City Council to fly the | :38:23. | :38:25. | |
Belfast City Council to fly the Belfast City Council to fly the | :38:25. | :38:26. | |
union flag only on designated days. union flag only on designated days. | :38:26. | :38:28. | |
union flag only on designated days. As the party faithful gathered for | :38:28. | :38:29. | |
As the party faithful gathered for As the party faithful gathered for | :38:29. | :38:31. | |
its annual conference, it pledged its annual conference, it pledged | :38:31. | :38:32. | |
its annual conference, it pledged the violence in recent months would | :38:32. | :38:34. | |
the violence in recent months would the violence in recent months would | :38:34. | :38:36. | |
the violence in recent months would not put it off its bind -- stride. | :38:36. | :38:37. | |
not put it off its bind -- stride. not put it off its bind -- stride. | :38:37. | :38:38. | |
In Belfast there was a deliberate In Belfast there was a deliberate | :38:38. | :38:40. | |
In Belfast there was a deliberate In Belfast there was a deliberate | :38:40. | :38:40. | |
campaign to generate fear is a long campaign to generate fear is a long | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
campaign to generate fear is a long loss of identity among those who | :38:42. | :38:43. | |
loss of identity among those who perceive themselves as having | :38:43. | :38:44. | |
perceive themselves as having perceive themselves as having | :38:44. | :38:45. | |
perceive themselves as having nothing left to give, and to go | :38:45. | :38:47. | |
nothing left to give, and to go nothing left to give, and to go | :38:47. | :38:49. | |
after the Alliance Party and its after the Alliance Party and its | :38:49. | :38:50. | |
representatives. The party's deputy representatives. The party's deputy | :38:50. | :38:51. | |
representatives. The party's deputy representatives. The party's deputy | :38:51. | :38:55. | |
leader Naomi Long is my guest today. leader Naomi Long is my guest today. | :38:55. | :38:56. | |
leader Naomi Long is my guest today. leader Naomi Long is my guest today. | :38:56. | :38:56. | |
And with her views on that story, I And with her views on that story, I | :38:57. | :38:57. | |
And with her views on that story, I am also joined by Kate Marshall, | :38:57. | :38:58. | |
am also joined by Kate Marshall, am also joined by Kate Marshall, | :38:58. | :38:59. | |
am also joined by Kate Marshall, chair of group Marshall -- Women In | :38:59. | :39:02. | |
chair of group Marshall -- Women In chair of group Marshall -- Women In | :39:02. | :39:03. | |
Business, and Noel Doran of the Irish News. | :39:03. | :39:06. | |
Irish News. Irish News. | :39:06. | :39:07. | |
Its members have faced death Its members have faced death | :39:07. | :39:08. | |
Its members have faced death threats, homes have been attacked, | :39:08. | :39:11. | |
threats, homes have been attacked, and elected members constituency | :39:11. | :39:12. | |
and elected members constituency and elected members constituency | :39:12. | :39:19. | |
offices have been burnt out. The offices have been burnt out. The | :39:19. | :39:21. | |
offices have been burnt out. The protests that have taken place at | :39:21. | :39:22. | |
protests that have taken place at protests that have taken place at | :39:22. | :39:23. | |
Belfast City Hall dominated the Belfast City Hall dominated the | :39:23. | :39:26. | |
Alliance Party's conference. Alliance Party's conference. | :39:26. | :39:27. | |
Alliance Party's conference. Security was discreet, but still a | :39:27. | :39:29. | |
Security was discreet, but still a Security was discreet, but still a | :39:29. | :39:30. | |
Security was discreet, but still a lot tighter than you usually find at | :39:30. | :39:32. | |
lot tighter than you usually find at lot tighter than you usually find at | :39:32. | :39:33. | |
an Alliance Party conference. We an Alliance Party conference. We | :39:33. | :39:34. | |
an Alliance Party conference. We wondered if the flag protesters | :39:34. | :39:36. | |
wondered if the flag protesters wondered if the flag protesters | :39:36. | :39:38. | |
wondered if the flag protesters would turn up. But no, this was the | :39:38. | :39:40. | |
would turn up. But no, this was the would turn up. But no, this was the | :39:40. | :39:42. | |
angriest face on view. However, angriest face on view. However, | :39:42. | :39:42. | |
angriest face on view. However, reminders of the past three | :39:42. | :39:43. | |
reminders of the past three reminders of the past three | :39:43. | :39:45. | |
traumatic months were not hard to traumatic months were not hard to | :39:45. | :39:46. | |
traumatic months were not hard to find, like this well fast councillor | :39:46. | :39:47. | |
find, like this well fast councillor find, like this well fast councillor | :39:47. | :39:49. | |
find, like this well fast councillor forced from her home by threats. | :39:49. | :39:51. | |
forced from her home by threats. forced from her home by threats. | :39:51. | :39:53. | |
my family friends, it was very my family friends, it was very | :39:53. | :39:54. | |
my family friends, it was very my family friends, it was very | :39:54. | :39:55. | |
trying. It was difficult for them to trying. It was difficult for them to | :39:55. | :39:56. | |
trying. It was difficult for them to trying. It was difficult for them to | :39:56. | :39:59. | |
have read about it in the papers. I have read about it in the papers. I | :39:59. | :40:01. | |
have read about it in the papers. I have read about it in the papers. I | :40:01. | :40:02. | |
had no illusions as to what I was had no illusions as to what I was | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
had no illusions as to what I was letting myself in for. We were | :40:04. | :40:05. | |
letting myself in for. We were letting myself in for. We were | :40:05. | :40:06. | |
always betrayed as sitting on the always betrayed as sitting on the | :40:06. | :40:06. | |
always betrayed as sitting on the always betrayed as sitting on the | :40:06. | :40:11. | |
always betrayed as sitting on the fence, but it is far from it. -- it | :40:11. | :40:12. | |
fence, but it is far from it. -- it fence, but it is far from it. -- it | :40:12. | :40:13. | |
fence, but it is far from it. -- it is far from easy doing that. | :40:13. | :40:14. | |
is far from easy doing that. is far from easy doing that. | :40:14. | :40:16. | |
Alliance Party has come through one Alliance Party has come through one | :40:16. | :40:17. | |
Alliance Party has come through one Alliance Party has come through one | :40:17. | :40:18. | |
of the most difficult periods in its of the most difficult periods in its | :40:18. | :40:19. | |
of the most difficult periods in its history. The feeling today was that | :40:19. | :40:21. | |
history. The feeling today was that history. The feeling today was that | :40:21. | :40:22. | |
it is beginning to weather the it is beginning to weather the | :40:22. | :40:23. | |
it is beginning to weather the spawn. This former Alliance Party | :40:23. | :40:25. | |
spawn. This former Alliance Party spawn. This former Alliance Party | :40:25. | :40:26. | |
leader says controversy is nothing leader says controversy is nothing | :40:26. | :40:27. | |
leader says controversy is nothing leader says controversy is nothing | :40:27. | :40:28. | |
new for the party. I was in the new for the party. I was in the | :40:28. | :40:30. | |
new for the party. I was in the new for the party. I was in the | :40:30. | :40:31. | |
party for 20 years, and it was a party for 20 years, and it was a | :40:31. | :40:33. | |
regular feature of political regular feature of political | :40:33. | :40:34. | |
regular feature of political comment, that when the Alliance | :40:34. | :40:36. | |
comment, that when the Alliance comment, that when the Alliance | :40:36. | :40:38. | |
adopted a strong stance on an adopted a strong stance on an | :40:38. | :40:40. | |
issue, everybody predicted its issue, everybody predicted its | :40:40. | :40:41. | |
issue, everybody predicted its immediate death. That has not | :40:41. | :40:43. | |
immediate death. That has not happened. People respected the | :40:43. | :40:48. | |
happened. People respected the happened. People respected the | :40:48. | :40:49. | |
stance that the Alliance Party took stance that the Alliance Party took | :40:49. | :40:50. | |
stance that the Alliance Party took stance that the Alliance Party took | :40:50. | :40:51. | |
in crises. And they are still here. in crises. And they are still here. | :40:51. | :40:51. | |
in crises. And they are still here. in crises. And they are still here. | :40:51. | :40:52. | |
It was in this room that the DUP It was in this room that the DUP | :40:52. | :40:53. | |
It was in this room that the DUP held its conference just before the | :40:53. | :40:57. | |
held its conference just before the held its conference just before the | :40:57. | :40:58. | |
flag controversy began. For that flag controversy began. For that | :40:58. | :40:59. | |
flag controversy began. For that party, and the Ulster Unionist, they | :40:59. | :41:00. | |
party, and the Ulster Unionist, they party, and the Ulster Unionist, they | :41:00. | :41:03. | |
were partly blamed for what had were partly blamed for what had | :41:03. | :41:03. | |
were partly blamed for what had happened. There is only one | :41:03. | :41:06. | |
happened. There is only one happened. There is only one | :41:06. | :41:08. | |
conclusion. In Belfast, there was a conclusion. In Belfast, there was a | :41:08. | :41:09. | |
deliberate, premeditated campaign to deliberate, premeditated campaign to | :41:09. | :41:11. | |
deliberate, premeditated campaign to whip up tensions, to generate fears | :41:11. | :41:12. | |
whip up tensions, to generate fears whip up tensions, to generate fears | :41:12. | :41:14. | |
among loss of identity among those among loss of identity among those | :41:14. | :41:15. | |
among loss of identity among those who perceive themselves as having | :41:15. | :41:16. | |
who perceive themselves as having who perceive themselves as having | :41:16. | :41:17. | |
who perceive themselves as having nothing left to give, and to go | :41:17. | :41:19. | |
nothing left to give, and to go nothing left to give, and to go | :41:19. | :41:21. | |
after the Alliance Party and its after the Alliance Party and its | :41:21. | :41:22. | |
elected representatives, and elected representatives, and | :41:23. | :41:24. | |
elected representatives, and especially to go after Naomi Long, | :41:24. | :41:25. | |
especially to go after Naomi Long, especially to go after Naomi Long, | :41:25. | :41:26. | |
who wasn't involved in the debate, who wasn't involved in the debate, | :41:26. | :41:28. | |
who wasn't involved in the debate, who wasn't involved in the debate, | :41:28. | :41:30. | |
just to win votes. All of this has just to win votes. All of this has | :41:30. | :41:31. | |
just to win votes. All of this has been about winning votes in East | :41:31. | :41:32. | |
been about winning votes in East been about winning votes in East | :41:32. | :41:35. | |
Belfast. And what of Naomi Long Belfast. And what of Naomi Long | :41:35. | :41:36. | |
Belfast. And what of Naomi Long herself? The word is probably | :41:36. | :41:40. | |
herself? The word is probably herself? The word is probably | :41:40. | :41:41. | |
defiant. Our choice is between a defiant. Our choice is between a | :41:41. | :41:43. | |
defiant. Our choice is between a defiant. Our choice is between a | :41:43. | :41:44. | |
shared future and a scared future. I shared future and a scared future. I | :41:44. | :41:45. | |
shared future and a scared future. I shared future and a scared future. I | :41:45. | :41:46. | |
for one am not interested in the for one am not interested in the | :41:46. | :41:49. | |
for one am not interested in the politics of fear. Alliance has not | :41:49. | :41:50. | |
politics of fear. Alliance has not politics of fear. Alliance has not | :41:50. | :41:51. | |
politics of fear. Alliance has not and will never indulge in that kind | :41:51. | :41:54. | |
and will never indulge in that kind and will never indulge in that kind | :41:54. | :41:55. | |
of politics. There was a surprise of politics. There was a surprise | :41:55. | :41:56. | |
appearance by the parades appearance by the parades | :41:56. | :41:57. | |
appearance by the parades commission, the first time it has | :41:57. | :41:58. | |
commission, the first time it has commission, the first time it has | :41:58. | :42:01. | |
taken a stand at the party taken a stand at the party | :42:01. | :42:02. | |
taken a stand at the party conference. Alliance have been very | :42:02. | :42:03. | |
conference. Alliance have been very conference. Alliance have been very | :42:03. | :42:04. | |
supportive of the commission, yes, supportive of the commission, yes, | :42:04. | :42:05. | |
supportive of the commission, yes, supportive of the commission, yes, | :42:05. | :42:07. | |
but there are lots of other people but there are lots of other people | :42:07. | :42:09. | |
but there are lots of other people here it is worth having a | :42:09. | :42:10. | |
here it is worth having a here it is worth having a | :42:10. | :42:11. | |
conversation with. Will you go to conversation with. Will you go to | :42:11. | :42:14. | |
conversation with. Will you go to other party conferences? Yes, but we | :42:14. | :42:15. | |
other party conferences? Yes, but we other party conferences? Yes, but we | :42:15. | :42:17. | |
other party conferences? Yes, but we cannot go to them all in one year. | :42:17. | :42:18. | |
cannot go to them all in one year. cannot go to them all in one year. | :42:18. | :42:19. | |
cannot go to them all in one year. David Ford says this period has been | :42:19. | :42:20. | |
David Ford says this period has been David Ford says this period has been | :42:20. | :42:21. | |
David Ford says this period has been tough for the party. He says they | :42:21. | :42:23. | |
tough for the party. He says they tough for the party. He says they | :42:23. | :42:24. | |
tough for the party. He says they have come through the fire, if at | :42:24. | :42:25. | |
have come through the fire, if at have come through the fire, if at | :42:25. | :42:28. | |
times a bit too literally. times a bit too literally. | :42:28. | :42:29. | |
times a bit too literally. times a bit too literally. | :42:29. | :42:30. | |
The time for excuses and lay on the The time for excuses and lay on the | :42:31. | :42:32. | |
The time for excuses and lay on the shared future strategy is over. The | :42:32. | :42:33. | |
shared future strategy is over. The shared future strategy is over. The | :42:33. | :42:35. | |
shared future strategy is over. The time for delivery is now. The words | :42:35. | :42:36. | |
time for delivery is now. The words time for delivery is now. The words | :42:36. | :42:37. | |
of the Alliance deputy leader Naomi of the Alliance deputy leader Naomi | :42:37. | :42:39. | |
of the Alliance deputy leader Naomi of the Alliance deputy leader Naomi | :42:39. | :42:40. | |
Long, in her speech to the party Long, in her speech to the party | :42:40. | :42:42. | |
Long, in her speech to the party conference yesterday. She is with me | :42:42. | :42:43. | |
conference yesterday. She is with me conference yesterday. She is with me | :42:43. | :42:44. | |
conference yesterday. She is with me now. How frustrating is it for you | :42:44. | :42:45. | |
now. How frustrating is it for you now. How frustrating is it for you | :42:45. | :42:46. | |
now. How frustrating is it for you that almost 15 years on from the | :42:46. | :42:47. | |
that almost 15 years on from the that almost 15 years on from the | :42:47. | :42:49. | |
signing of the Belfast Agreement, signing of the Belfast Agreement, | :42:49. | :42:50. | |
signing of the Belfast Agreement, signing of the Belfast Agreement, | :42:50. | :42:51. | |
and agreed shared future is still on and agreed shared future is still on | :42:51. | :42:53. | |
and agreed shared future is still on and agreed shared future is still on | :42:53. | :42:53. | |
everyone's to-do list? It is not on everyone's to-do list? It is not on | :42:54. | :42:54. | |
everyone's to-do list? It is not on everyone's to-do list? It is not on | :42:54. | :42:56. | |
our to-do list, and that was one of our to-do list, and that was one of | :42:56. | :42:57. | |
our to-do list, and that was one of the points we were making yesterday | :42:57. | :42:58. | |
the points we were making yesterday the points we were making yesterday | :42:58. | :43:00. | |
at the conference. We were talking at the conference. We were talking | :43:00. | :43:01. | |
at the conference. We were talking about our document for everyone, | :43:01. | :43:02. | |
about our document for everyone, about our document for everyone, | :43:02. | :43:03. | |
about our document for everyone, which sets out where we see an | :43:03. | :43:04. | |
which sets out where we see an which sets out where we see an | :43:04. | :43:05. | |
Executive blueprint can be, and Executive blueprint can be, and | :43:05. | :43:06. | |
Executive blueprint can be, and Executive blueprint can be, and | :43:06. | :43:07. | |
where we think we can bridge the gap where we think we can bridge the gap | :43:07. | :43:08. | |
where we think we can bridge the gap where we think we can bridge the gap | :43:08. | :43:09. | |
between where we are now and where between where we are now and where | :43:09. | :43:12. | |
between where we are now and where between where we are now and where | :43:12. | :43:13. | |
we want to be. We are already making we want to be. We are already making | :43:13. | :43:14. | |
we want to be. We are already making progress, and we are challenging for | :43:14. | :43:15. | |
progress, and we are challenging for progress, and we are challenging for | :43:15. | :43:16. | |
the other parties of the Executive the other parties of the Executive | :43:17. | :43:18. | |
the other parties of the Executive the other parties of the Executive | :43:18. | :43:20. | |
to step up and make this happen. 15 to step up and make this happen. 15 | :43:20. | :43:28. | |
to step up and make this happen. 15 to step up and make this happen. 15 | :43:28. | :43:29. | |
years on is a long time of wasted years on is a long time of wasted | :43:29. | :43:30. | |
opportunity. The shared future opportunity. The shared future | :43:30. | :43:30. | |
opportunity. The shared future strategy was working. It was | :43:31. | :43:31. | |
strategy was working. It was strategy was working. It was | :43:31. | :43:32. | |
starting to deliver results. It was starting to deliver results. It was | :43:32. | :43:33. | |
starting to deliver results. It was starting to deliver results. It was | :43:33. | :43:36. | |
binned by Sinn Fein and the DUP. binned by Sinn Fein and the DUP. | :43:36. | :43:36. | |
binned by Sinn Fein and the DUP. annoying thing for the Alliance | :43:36. | :43:37. | |
annoying thing for the Alliance annoying thing for the Alliance | :43:37. | :43:39. | |
annoying thing for the Alliance Party is that you are not in the | :43:39. | :43:40. | |
Party is that you are not in the Party is that you are not in the | :43:40. | :43:41. | |
Party is that you are not in the driving seat. It is Sinn Fein and | :43:41. | :43:42. | |
driving seat. It is Sinn Fein and driving seat. It is Sinn Fein and | :43:42. | :43:44. | |
driving seat. It is Sinn Fein and DUP who are setting the pace. | :43:44. | :43:45. | |
DUP who are setting the pace. DUP who are setting the pace. | :43:45. | :43:46. | |
DUP who are setting the pace. are setting the pace in terms of | :43:46. | :43:47. | |
are setting the pace in terms of are setting the pace in terms of | :43:47. | :43:50. | |
when the document is published, but when the document is published, but | :43:50. | :43:51. | |
when the document is published, but we have control into departments. We | :43:51. | :43:53. | |
we have control into departments. We we have control into departments. We | :43:53. | :43:54. | |
we have control into departments. We set out what we could do within the | :43:54. | :43:55. | |
set out what we could do within the set out what we could do within the | :43:55. | :43:56. | |
Department of Justice around things Department of Justice around things | :43:56. | :44:00. | |
Department of Justice around things like community safety. And mobility | :44:00. | :44:02. | |
like community safety. And mobility like community safety. And mobility | :44:02. | :44:03. | |
to work, and people to access to work, and people to access | :44:03. | :44:05. | |
to work, and people to access employment. That is an issue for | :44:05. | :44:06. | |
employment. That is an issue for employment. That is an issue for | :44:06. | :44:07. | |
shared future. Chris Little, your shared future. Chris Little, your | :44:07. | :44:09. | |
representative on the steering representative on the steering | :44:09. | :44:10. | |
representative on the steering representative on the steering | :44:10. | :44:11. | |
group, turned his back on it and group, turned his back on it and | :44:11. | :44:13. | |
group, turned his back on it and walked away. So they are challenging | :44:13. | :44:14. | |
walked away. So they are challenging walked away. So they are challenging | :44:14. | :44:18. | |
your party's commitment to movement your party's commitment to movement | :44:18. | :44:19. | |
your party's commitment to movement on this. That is a ridiculous | :44:19. | :44:21. | |
on this. That is a ridiculous on this. That is a ridiculous | :44:21. | :44:21. | |
comment. To suggest we lack comment. To suggest we lack | :44:22. | :44:23. | |
comment. To suggest we lack commitment is ridiculous. What we | :44:23. | :44:24. | |
commitment is ridiculous. What we commitment is ridiculous. What we | :44:24. | :44:27. | |
have problems with, and why we have problems with, and why we | :44:27. | :44:27. | |
have problems with, and why we didn't continue to participate in, | :44:27. | :44:30. | |
didn't continue to participate in, didn't continue to participate in, | :44:30. | :44:31. | |
didn't continue to participate in, was the fact that the process behind | :44:31. | :44:32. | |
was the fact that the process behind was the fact that the process behind | :44:32. | :44:33. | |
closed doors was not making any closed doors was not making any | :44:33. | :44:35. | |
closed doors was not making any progress on the issues that matter. | :44:35. | :44:37. | |
progress on the issues that matter. progress on the issues that matter. | :44:37. | :44:38. | |
We have seen the issues around We have seen the issues around | :44:38. | :44:40. | |
identity and culture, around identity and culture, around | :44:40. | :44:42. | |
identity and culture, around parading, around how to deal with | :44:42. | :44:43. | |
parading, around how to deal with parading, around how to deal with | :44:43. | :44:45. | |
the pass and its legacy. Those the pass and its legacy. Those | :44:45. | :44:46. | |
the pass and its legacy. Those issues were being sidestepped in the | :44:46. | :44:49. | |
issues were being sidestepped in the issues were being sidestepped in the | :44:49. | :44:51. | |
steering group. We are about real, steering group. We are about real, | :44:51. | :44:52. | |
steering group. We are about real, substantive progress for the people | :44:52. | :44:54. | |
substantive progress for the people substantive progress for the people | :44:54. | :44:55. | |
of Northern Ireland. When you speak of Northern Ireland. When you speak | :44:55. | :44:56. | |
of Northern Ireland. When you speak to those other parties, particularly | :44:56. | :44:58. | |
to those other parties, particularly to those other parties, particularly | :44:58. | :44:59. | |
to those other parties, particularly Sinn Fein and the DUP, they say that | :44:59. | :45:00. | |
Sinn Fein and the DUP, they say that Sinn Fein and the DUP, they say that | :45:00. | :45:00. | |
Sinn Fein and the DUP, they say that you talk the talk but you don't walk | :45:00. | :45:02. | |
you talk the talk but you don't walk you talk the talk but you don't walk | :45:02. | :45:04. | |
you talk the talk but you don't walk the walk. You did turn your back on | :45:04. | :45:05. | |
the walk. You did turn your back on the walk. You did turn your back on | :45:05. | :45:06. | |
the walk. You did turn your back on the steering group. They say you are | :45:06. | :45:07. | |
the steering group. They say you are the steering group. They say you are | :45:07. | :45:08. | |
the steering group. They say you are trying to slow down the process by | :45:08. | :45:09. | |
trying to slow down the process by trying to slow down the process by | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
broadening it out into this notion broadening it out into this notion | :45:12. | :45:13. | |
broadening it out into this notion of a partnership with civic society. | :45:13. | :45:14. | |
of a partnership with civic society. of a partnership with civic society. | :45:14. | :45:15. | |
If you were serious about progress If you were serious about progress | :45:15. | :45:16. | |
If you were serious about progress If you were serious about progress | :45:16. | :45:17. | |
on this, you would be in the on this, you would be in the | :45:17. | :45:19. | |
on this, you would be in the steering group, not trying to bring | :45:19. | :45:20. | |
steering group, not trying to bring steering group, not trying to bring | :45:20. | :45:22. | |
on more groups and organisations. on more groups and organisations. | :45:22. | :45:24. | |
on more groups and organisations. were in the steering group. Our | :45:24. | :45:25. | |
were in the steering group. Our were in the steering group. Our | :45:25. | :45:30. | |
position in the steering group was position in the steering group was | :45:30. | :45:32. | |
misrepresentative -- misrepresented. misrepresentative -- misrepresented. | :45:32. | :45:34. | |
misrepresentative -- misrepresented. misrepresentative -- misrepresented. | :45:34. | :45:35. | |
The party was not tackling the key The party was not tackling the key | :45:35. | :45:37. | |
The party was not tackling the key The party was not tackling the key | :45:37. | :45:38. | |
issues. To say that this live with issues. To say that this live with | :45:38. | :45:39. | |
issues. To say that this live with political parties is a nonsense. If | :45:39. | :45:41. | |
political parties is a nonsense. If political parties is a nonsense. If | :45:41. | :45:42. | |
political parties is a nonsense. If we want a shared future, it has to | :45:42. | :45:46. | |
we want a shared future, it has to we want a shared future, it has to | :45:46. | :45:46. | |
engage civic society. As the leader engage civic society. As the leader | :45:46. | :45:48. | |
engage civic society. As the leader in the Department of Justice, the | :45:48. | :45:51. | |
in the Department of Justice, the in the Department of Justice, the | :45:51. | :45:52. | |
in the Department of Justice, the leader is able to give director ship | :45:52. | :45:53. | |
leader is able to give director ship leader is able to give director ship | :45:53. | :45:54. | |
leader is able to give director ship and support, but that has to come | :45:54. | :45:55. | |
and support, but that has to come and support, but that has to come | :45:55. | :45:56. | |
and support, but that has to come from the local community. It has to | :45:56. | :45:57. | |
from the local community. It has to from the local community. It has to | :45:57. | :45:58. | |
from the local community. It has to be something that is working on the | :45:58. | :45:59. | |
be something that is working on the be something that is working on the | :45:59. | :46:00. | |
be something that is working on the ground. We have set out a plan of | :46:00. | :46:02. | |
ground. We have set out a plan of ground. We have set out a plan of | :46:02. | :46:04. | |
ground. We have set out a plan of how we get from where we are now, | :46:04. | :46:05. | |
how we get from where we are now, how we get from where we are now, | :46:05. | :46:06. | |
how we get from where we are now, without any kind of policy for the | :46:06. | :46:07. | |
without any kind of policy for the without any kind of policy for the | :46:07. | :46:08. | |
without any kind of policy for the Executive, to where we could be to | :46:08. | :46:09. | |
Executive, to where we could be to Executive, to where we could be to | :46:09. | :46:11. | |
where we have that policy and where we have that policy and | :46:11. | :46:12. | |
where we have that policy and engagement. If they want to | :46:12. | :46:13. | |
engagement. If they want to engagement. If they want to | :46:13. | :46:15. | |
criticise us, fine. But let's see criticise us, fine. But let's see | :46:15. | :46:15. | |
criticise us, fine. But let's see criticise us, fine. But let's see | :46:15. | :46:16. | |
the colour of their money. They have the colour of their money. They have | :46:16. | :46:19. | |
the colour of their money. They have the colour of their money. They have | :46:19. | :46:20. | |
the colour of their money. They have had six years to rid -- to produce a | :46:20. | :46:21. | |
had six years to rid -- to produce a had six years to rid -- to produce a | :46:21. | :46:27. | |
replacement policy, and they have replacement policy, and they have | :46:27. | :46:27. | |
replacement policy, and they have failed. This flag controversy is | :46:27. | :46:29. | |
failed. This flag controversy is failed. This flag controversy is | :46:29. | :46:35. | |
said to be deliberately whipped up said to be deliberately whipped up | :46:35. | :46:40. | |
said to be deliberately whipped up said to be deliberately whipped up | :46:40. | :46:41. | |
by your party's opponents to whip up by your party's opponents to whip up | :46:41. | :46:42. | |
bad feeling, specifically directed bad feeling, specifically directed | :46:42. | :46:47. | |
bad feeling, specifically directed bad feeling, specifically directed | :46:47. | :46:48. | |
at you and your party. We are at you and your party. We are | :46:48. | :46:49. | |
at you and your party. We are at you and your party. We are | :46:49. | :46:50. | |
waiting for an explanation as to why waiting for an explanation as to why | :46:50. | :46:51. | |
waiting for an explanation as to why waiting for an explanation as to why | :46:51. | :46:53. | |
my name appeared on a leaflet that my name appeared on a leaflet that | :46:53. | :46:54. | |
my name appeared on a leaflet that my name appeared on a leaflet that | :46:54. | :46:55. | |
was distributed when I am not a was distributed when I am not a | :46:55. | :46:57. | |
was distributed when I am not a Belfast city councillor. For the | :46:58. | :46:59. | |
Belfast city councillor. For the Belfast city councillor. For the | :46:59. | :47:00. | |
Belfast city councillor. For the meantime, we can only issue that the | :47:00. | :47:01. | |
meantime, we can only issue that the meantime, we can only issue that the | :47:01. | :47:04. | |
targeting of me in that situation targeting of me in that situation | :47:04. | :47:05. | |
targeting of me in that situation targeting of me in that situation | :47:05. | :47:06. | |
was purely about the loss of the was purely about the loss of the | :47:06. | :47:07. | |
was purely about the loss of the was purely about the loss of the | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
seat of the Alliance Party at the seat of the Alliance Party at the | :47:10. | :47:11. | |
seat of the Alliance Party at the seat of the Alliance Party at the | :47:11. | :47:12. | |
last election. I think there is a last election. I think there is a | :47:12. | :47:13. | |
last election. I think there is a degree of residence within the | :47:13. | :47:14. | |
degree of residence within the degree of residence within the | :47:14. | :47:15. | |
degree of residence within the community that that is what this has | :47:15. | :47:17. | |
community that that is what this has community that that is what this has | :47:17. | :47:18. | |
been about. Just briefly, are you been about. Just briefly, are you | :47:18. | :47:19. | |
been about. Just briefly, are you heartened to hear from Peter | :47:19. | :47:20. | |
heartened to hear from Peter heartened to hear from Peter | :47:20. | :47:20. | |
heartened to hear from Peter Robinson, who is quoted today on the | :47:20. | :47:22. | |
Robinson, who is quoted today on the Robinson, who is quoted today on the | :47:22. | :47:25. | |
radio as saying that several working radio as saying that several working | :47:25. | :47:26. | |
radio as saying that several working radio as saying that several working | :47:26. | :47:27. | |
groups have been set up by the groups have been set up by the | :47:27. | :47:28. | |
groups have been set up by the Unionist Forum -- the Unionist Forum | :47:28. | :47:29. | |
Unionist Forum -- the Unionist Forum Unionist Forum -- the Unionist Forum | :47:29. | :47:31. | |
Unionist Forum -- the Unionist Forum Unionist Forum -- the Unionist Forum | :47:31. | :47:32. | |
to set out how to deal with this. to set out how to deal with this. | :47:32. | :47:33. | |
to set out how to deal with this. to set out how to deal with this. | :47:33. | :47:34. | |
think it is too little too late. think it is too little too late. | :47:34. | :47:35. | |
think it is too little too late. think it is too little too late. | :47:35. | :47:36. | |
This issue has been on the agenda This issue has been on the agenda | :47:36. | :47:37. | |
This issue has been on the agenda This issue has been on the agenda | :47:37. | :47:39. | |
for ten years, and there has been no for ten years, and there has been no | :47:39. | :47:40. | |
for ten years, and there has been no progress. The time for the | :47:40. | :47:41. | |
progress. The time for the progress. The time for the | :47:41. | :47:42. | |
discussion over the flags issue in discussion over the flags issue in | :47:42. | :47:47. | |
discussion over the flags issue in Belfast was ten years ago. Let's | :47:47. | :47:48. | |
Belfast was ten years ago. Let's talk about realignment with | :47:48. | :47:50. | |
talk about realignment with talk about realignment with | :47:50. | :47:51. | |
unionism. How threatened are you at unionism. How threatened are you at | :47:52. | :47:56. | |
unionism. How threatened are you at the establishment of a new liberal | :47:56. | :47:57. | |
the establishment of a new liberal the establishment of a new liberal | :47:57. | :47:57. | |
progressive liberalist party led by progressive liberalist party led by | :47:57. | :48:01. | |
progressive liberalist party led by Basil McCrea and John McCallister? | :48:01. | :48:03. | |
Basil McCrea and John McCallister? Basil McCrea and John McCallister? | :48:03. | :48:03. | |
Our priority is to realign the Our priority is to realign the | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
Northern Ireland political Northern Ireland political | :48:07. | :48:07. | |
Northern Ireland political conversation. But some unionists who | :48:07. | :48:08. | |
conversation. But some unionists who conversation. But some unionists who | :48:08. | :48:10. | |
support the alliance might go back support the alliance might go back | :48:10. | :48:11. | |
support the alliance might go back support the alliance might go back | :48:11. | :48:14. | |
to a big new Unionist party? Our job to a big new Unionist party? Our job | :48:14. | :48:15. | |
to a big new Unionist party? Our job is to align politics around our | :48:15. | :48:16. | |
is to align politics around our is to align politics around our | :48:16. | :48:18. | |
is to align politics around our agenda. That is not a realignment. A | :48:18. | :48:20. | |
agenda. That is not a realignment. A agenda. That is not a realignment. A | :48:20. | :48:21. | |
realignment has been tried before. realignment has been tried before. | :48:21. | :48:23. | |
realignment has been tried before. We have had multiple parties, and | :48:23. | :48:24. | |
We have had multiple parties, and We have had multiple parties, and | :48:24. | :48:27. | |
history is littered with Unionist history is littered with Unionist | :48:27. | :48:28. | |
history is littered with Unionist parties that have tried to realign | :48:28. | :48:30. | |
parties that have tried to realign parties that have tried to realign | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
unionism, and have failed to achieve unionism, and have failed to achieve | :48:32. | :48:33. | |
unionism, and have failed to achieve unionism, and have failed to achieve | :48:33. | :48:34. | |
that end. We are focused on trying that end. We are focused on trying | :48:34. | :48:35. | |
that end. We are focused on trying to realign the policies and the | :48:35. | :48:41. | |
to realign the policies and the to realign the policies and the | :48:41. | :48:42. | |
practices in Northern Ireland, to practices in Northern Ireland, to | :48:42. | :48:44. | |
practices in Northern Ireland, to deliver for everyone. You are | :48:44. | :48:45. | |
deliver for everyone. You are deliver for everyone. You are | :48:45. | :48:46. | |
pleased you are speaking with one pleased you are speaking with one | :48:46. | :48:47. | |
pleased you are speaking with one pleased you are speaking with one | :48:47. | :48:49. | |
voice on flags and other issues. But voice on flags and other issues. But | :48:49. | :48:50. | |
voice on flags and other issues. But there are issues that divide the | :48:50. | :48:52. | |
there are issues that divide the there are issues that divide the | :48:52. | :48:53. | |
Alliance Party, Mike for abortion Alliance Party, Mike for abortion | :48:53. | :48:55. | |
Alliance Party, Mike for abortion Alliance Party, Mike for abortion | :48:55. | :48:56. | |
and gay marriage. Some of you do not and gay marriage. Some of you do not | :48:56. | :48:58. | |
and gay marriage. Some of you do not and gay marriage. Some of you do not | :48:58. | :49:00. | |
agree on the way forward. On the agree on the way forward. On the | :49:00. | :49:00. | |
agree on the way forward. On the agree on the way forward. On the | :49:00. | :49:01. | |
issue of abortion, it is not unusual issue of abortion, it is not unusual | :49:01. | :49:03. | |
issue of abortion, it is not unusual issue of abortion, it is not unusual | :49:03. | :49:04. | |
for a party to take the position for a party to take the position | :49:04. | :49:05. | |
for a party to take the position that this is a matter of | :49:05. | :49:06. | |
that this is a matter of that this is a matter of | :49:06. | :49:08. | |
conscience. I have a particular view conscience. I have a particular view | :49:08. | :49:10. | |
conscience. I have a particular view in my conscience about abortion, and | :49:10. | :49:13. | |
in my conscience about abortion, and in my conscience about abortion, and | :49:13. | :49:14. | |
others may not share that view. others may not share that view. | :49:14. | :49:15. | |
others may not share that view. There is no division within the | :49:15. | :49:15. | |
There is no division within the There is no division within the | :49:15. | :49:16. | |
There is no division within the party. A lot of parties would take | :49:16. | :49:17. | |
party. A lot of parties would take party. A lot of parties would take | :49:17. | :49:18. | |
party. A lot of parties would take the same view. On gay marriage, we | :49:18. | :49:19. | |
the same view. On gay marriage, we the same view. On gay marriage, we | :49:19. | :49:20. | |
the same view. On gay marriage, we have a strong policy, and that has | :49:20. | :49:22. | |
have a strong policy, and that has have a strong policy, and that has | :49:22. | :49:23. | |
been represented by the vast been represented by the vast | :49:23. | :49:25. | |
been represented by the vast been represented by the vast | :49:25. | :49:25. | |
majority of people in the party. majority of people in the party. | :49:25. | :49:26. | |
majority of people in the party. majority of people in the party. | :49:26. | :49:27. | |
one man has voted against it. We one man has voted against it. We | :49:27. | :49:31. | |
one man has voted against it. We one man has voted against it. We | :49:31. | :49:31. | |
accept that there will be those who accept that there will be those who | :49:31. | :49:33. | |
have a different view. have a different view. | :49:33. | :49:34. | |
have a different view. have a different view. | :49:34. | :49:37. | |
Let's bring my two guests in now. Let's bring my two guests in now. | :49:37. | :49:38. | |
Let's bring my two guests in now. Let's bring my two guests in now. | :49:38. | :49:40. | |
Kate Marshall is the chair of Women Kate Marshall is the chair of Women | :49:40. | :49:41. | |
Kate Marshall is the chair of Women Kate Marshall is the chair of Women | :49:41. | :49:42. | |
In Business. Noel Doran is here from In Business. Noel Doran is here from | :49:42. | :49:46. | |
In Business. Noel Doran is here from In Business. Noel Doran is here from | :49:46. | :49:46. | |
the Irish News. No punches pulled in the Irish News. No punches pulled in | :49:46. | :49:48. | |
the Irish News. No punches pulled in the Irish News. No punches pulled in | :49:48. | :49:48. | |
some of the comments made about the some of the comments made about the | :49:48. | :49:50. | |
some of the comments made about the flags dispute. Do you think the | :49:50. | :49:51. | |
flags dispute. Do you think the flags dispute. Do you think the | :49:51. | :49:54. | |
alliance is whether that storm? alliance is whether that storm? | :49:54. | :49:55. | |
alliance is whether that storm? reflected on an interview I heard | :49:55. | :49:56. | |
reflected on an interview I heard reflected on an interview I heard | :49:56. | :49:58. | |
with a leading loyalist in East with a leading loyalist in East | :49:58. | :49:59. | |
with a leading loyalist in East Belfast, who was able to declare | :49:59. | :50:00. | |
Belfast, who was able to declare Belfast, who was able to declare | :50:00. | :50:01. | |
with certainty that Naomi Long would with certainty that Naomi Long would | :50:01. | :50:02. | |
with certainty that Naomi Long would with certainty that Naomi Long would | :50:02. | :50:05. | |
not be the next MP for the not be the next MP for the | :50:05. | :50:06. | |
not be the next MP for the not be the next MP for the | :50:06. | :50:06. | |
constituency. He was not a member of constituency. He was not a member of | :50:06. | :50:08. | |
constituency. He was not a member of constituency. He was not a member of | :50:08. | :50:09. | |
the altar unionists or the DUP, but the altar unionists or the DUP, but | :50:09. | :50:11. | |
the altar unionists or the DUP, but the altar unionists or the DUP, but | :50:11. | :50:12. | |
he was able to say what those two he was able to say what those two | :50:12. | :50:14. | |
he was able to say what those two he was able to say what those two | :50:14. | :50:14. | |
parties would be doing. That is not parties would be doing. That is not | :50:14. | :50:15. | |
parties would be doing. That is not parties would be doing. That is not | :50:15. | :50:19. | |
a positive sign in this part of the a positive sign in this part of the | :50:19. | :50:20. | |
a positive sign in this part of the a positive sign in this part of the | :50:20. | :50:20. | |
world. Maybe we will hear from Naomi world. Maybe we will hear from Naomi | :50:20. | :50:22. | |
world. Maybe we will hear from Naomi world. Maybe we will hear from Naomi | :50:22. | :50:23. | |
in a moment about that. But your in a moment about that. But your | :50:23. | :50:26. | |
in a moment about that. But your in a moment about that. But your | :50:26. | :50:28. | |
view is set -- certain sections of view is set -- certain sections of | :50:28. | :50:29. | |
view is set -- certain sections of the community gave their view to | :50:29. | :50:30. | |
the community gave their view to the community gave their view to | :50:30. | :50:32. | |
Naomi because they were not happy Naomi because they were not happy | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
Naomi because they were not happy Naomi because they were not happy | :50:35. | :50:36. | |
with the DUP. Alliance have had a with the DUP. Alliance have had a | :50:36. | :50:37. | |
with the DUP. Alliance have had a remarkable period over the last few | :50:37. | :50:39. | |
remarkable period over the last few remarkable period over the last few | :50:39. | :50:40. | |
years, but eight ultras period over years, but eight ultras period over | :50:40. | :50:43. | |
years, but eight ultras period over the last three months. The pressure | :50:43. | :50:44. | |
the last three months. The pressure the last three months. The pressure | :50:44. | :50:45. | |
the last three months. The pressure has been on. It is not a healthy | :50:45. | :50:46. | |
has been on. It is not a healthy has been on. It is not a healthy | :50:46. | :50:47. | |
sign for politics in Northern sign for politics in Northern | :50:47. | :50:48. | |
sign for politics in Northern Ireland that something like that can | :50:48. | :50:49. | |
Ireland that something like that can Ireland that something like that can | :50:49. | :50:51. | |
Ireland that something like that can happen in this day and age. I am | :50:51. | :50:52. | |
happen in this day and age. I am happen in this day and age. I am | :50:52. | :50:53. | |
talking about attacks on homes and talking about attacks on homes and | :50:54. | :50:56. | |
intimidation of elected intimidation of elected | :50:56. | :50:57. | |
representatives. Kate Marshall, the representatives. Kate Marshall, the | :50:57. | :50:58. | |
representatives. Kate Marshall, the Alliance Party has made much about | :50:58. | :51:00. | |
Alliance Party has made much about Alliance Party has made much about | :51:00. | :51:00. | |
the need for this partnership the need for this partnership | :51:00. | :51:03. | |
between politicians and civic between politicians and civic | :51:03. | :51:07. | |
between politicians and civic between politicians and civic | :51:07. | :51:08. | |
society. Do you agree that that is a society. Do you agree that that is a | :51:08. | :51:09. | |
society. Do you agree that that is a coalition that needs to be worked | :51:09. | :51:13. | |
coalition that needs to be worked coalition that needs to be worked | :51:13. | :51:14. | |
out? Absolutely. The closer the out? Absolutely. The closer the | :51:14. | :51:15. | |
links between business and links between business and | :51:16. | :51:16. | |
links between business and politicians and society, that must | :51:16. | :51:17. | |
politicians and society, that must politicians and society, that must | :51:17. | :51:20. | |
politicians and society, that must be for all our good. That is beyond | :51:20. | :51:22. | |
be for all our good. That is beyond be for all our good. That is beyond | :51:22. | :51:24. | |
party politics, is it? Absolutely. party politics, is it? Absolutely. | :51:24. | :51:25. | |
party politics, is it? Absolutely. party politics, is it? Absolutely. | :51:25. | :51:26. | |
If you think about society and how If you think about society and how | :51:26. | :51:27. | |
If you think about society and how If you think about society and how | :51:27. | :51:28. | |
we have all moved in the last few we have all moved in the last few | :51:28. | :51:30. | |
we have all moved in the last few we have all moved in the last few | :51:30. | :51:32. | |
years, it is all about being more years, it is all about being more | :51:32. | :51:32. | |
collaborative, about working collaborative, about working | :51:32. | :51:36. | |
collaborative, about working together to create a better future. | :51:36. | :51:37. | |
together to create a better future. together to create a better future. | :51:37. | :51:40. | |
When you hear from representatives When you hear from representatives | :51:40. | :51:41. | |
When you hear from representatives of some of the parties, particularly | :51:41. | :51:44. | |
of some of the parties, particularly of some of the parties, particularly | :51:44. | :51:45. | |
of some of the parties, particularly the DUP, their line on it is that | :51:45. | :51:47. | |
the DUP, their line on it is that civic society will exercise | :51:47. | :51:48. | |
civic society will exercise politicians to make these | :51:48. | :51:49. | |
politicians to make these politicians to make these | :51:49. | :51:51. | |
politicians to make these decisions. We don't need to go back | :51:51. | :51:52. | |
decisions. We don't need to go back and rethink everything with | :51:52. | :51:53. | |
and rethink everything with and rethink everything with | :51:53. | :51:54. | |
everybody and society. We are paid everybody and society. We are paid | :51:54. | :51:56. | |
everybody and society. We are paid everybody and society. We are paid | :51:56. | :51:58. | |
to move things like this forward. to move things like this forward. | :51:58. | :51:59. | |
to move things like this forward. to move things like this forward. | :51:59. | :52:01. | |
is so, but you cannot do things in is so, but you cannot do things in | :52:01. | :52:02. | |
is so, but you cannot do things in isolation. You have to keep | :52:02. | :52:04. | |
isolation. You have to keep communicating and involving people | :52:04. | :52:05. | |
communicating and involving people communicating and involving people | :52:05. | :52:06. | |
in the decisions, otherwise they in the decisions, otherwise they | :52:06. | :52:09. | |
in the decisions, otherwise they feel left out, and obviously what | :52:09. | :52:10. | |
feel left out, and obviously what feel left out, and obviously what | :52:10. | :52:13. | |
happens then is disillusionment and happens then is disillusionment and | :52:13. | :52:14. | |
happens then is disillusionment and disengagement. On that broader issue | :52:14. | :52:16. | |
disengagement. On that broader issue of the relationship between | :52:16. | :52:18. | |
of the relationship between of the relationship between | :52:18. | :52:19. | |
politicians and civic society, it's politicians and civic society, it's | :52:19. | :52:20. | |
not necessarily the healthiest not necessarily the healthiest | :52:20. | :52:22. | |
not necessarily the healthiest relationship we have in Northern | :52:22. | :52:24. | |
relationship we have in Northern relationship we have in Northern | :52:24. | :52:25. | |
relationship we have in Northern Ireland? Clearly not. We all have to | :52:25. | :52:26. | |
Ireland? Clearly not. We all have to Ireland? Clearly not. We all have to | :52:26. | :52:28. | |
Ireland? Clearly not. We all have to be aware of progress on the strategy | :52:28. | :52:29. | |
be aware of progress on the strategy be aware of progress on the strategy | :52:29. | :52:31. | |
of living together. The anger that of living together. The anger that | :52:31. | :52:32. | |
of living together. The anger that David Ford felt was clear | :52:32. | :52:33. | |
David Ford felt was clear David Ford felt was clear | :52:33. | :52:34. | |
yesterday, but it is a yesterday, but it is a | :52:34. | :52:36. | |
yesterday, but it is a contradiction. His party does hold | :52:36. | :52:37. | |
contradiction. His party does hold contradiction. His party does hold | :52:37. | :52:39. | |
contradiction. His party does hold two seats in the Executive, and that | :52:39. | :52:40. | |
two seats in the Executive, and that two seats in the Executive, and that | :52:40. | :52:41. | |
two seats in the Executive, and that is twice what they are allowed in | :52:41. | :52:46. | |
is twice what they are allowed in is twice what they are allowed in | :52:46. | :52:48. | |
elective terms. Namely, to pick up elective terms. Namely, to pick up | :52:48. | :52:49. | |
elective terms. Namely, to pick up on what Noel was talking about | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
on what Noel was talking about on what Noel was talking about | :52:52. | :52:53. | |
there. There are doom and gloom there. There are doom and gloom | :52:53. | :52:56. | |
there. There are doom and gloom merchants predicting that you have | :52:56. | :52:57. | |
merchants predicting that you have merchants predicting that you have | :52:57. | :52:59. | |
merchants predicting that you have had -- you will have a tougher time | :52:59. | :53:00. | |
had -- you will have a tougher time had -- you will have a tougher time | :53:00. | :53:01. | |
had -- you will have a tougher time in 2015 when you are running a | :53:01. | :53:04. | |
in 2015 when you are running a in 2015 when you are running a | :53:04. | :53:04. | |
in 2015 when you are running a game. The votes that you got from | :53:04. | :53:05. | |
game. The votes that you got from game. The votes that you got from | :53:05. | :53:06. | |
unionists in East Belfast will not unionists in East Belfast will not | :53:06. | :53:13. | |
unionists in East Belfast will not unionists in East Belfast will not | :53:13. | :53:14. | |
be there the second time round. be there the second time round. | :53:14. | :53:14. | |
be there the second time round. terms... Of course there are | :53:15. | :53:15. | |
terms... Of course there are terms... Of course there are | :53:15. | :53:17. | |
limitations when you are in charge limitations when you are in charge | :53:17. | :53:18. | |
limitations when you are in charge limitations when you are in charge | :53:18. | :53:20. | |
of an Executive like ours. It is a of an Executive like ours. It is a | :53:20. | :53:22. | |
of an Executive like ours. It is a of an Executive like ours. It is a | :53:22. | :53:24. | |
small party of two. But we have made small party of two. But we have made | :53:24. | :53:26. | |
small party of two. But we have made small party of two. But we have made | :53:26. | :53:27. | |
a real impact, and have been able to a real impact, and have been able to | :53:27. | :53:29. | |
demonstrate what an alliance demonstrate what an alliance | :53:29. | :53:30. | |
demonstrate what an alliance government would look like. That is | :53:30. | :53:32. | |
government would look like. That is government would look like. That is | :53:32. | :53:33. | |
important. In terms of the election important. In terms of the election | :53:33. | :53:36. | |
important. In terms of the election important. In terms of the election | :53:36. | :53:37. | |
in East Belfast, it is too early to in East Belfast, it is too early to | :53:37. | :53:39. | |
in East Belfast, it is too early to predict anything. Until 2008, nobody | :53:39. | :53:40. | |
predict anything. Until 2008, nobody predict anything. Until 2008, nobody | :53:40. | :53:41. | |
would have even predicted that I would have even predicted that I | :53:41. | :53:42. | |
would have even predicted that I would be runner-up in the election | :53:42. | :53:43. | |
would be runner-up in the election would be runner-up in the election | :53:43. | :53:45. | |
would be runner-up in the election would be runner-up in the election | :53:45. | :53:46. | |
in 2010. It is up to me to do the in 2010. It is up to me to do the | :53:46. | :53:47. | |
in 2010. It is up to me to do the in 2010. It is up to me to do the | :53:47. | :53:48. | |
in 2010. It is up to me to do the job to the best of my ability. It is | :53:48. | :53:50. | |
job to the best of my ability. It is job to the best of my ability. It is | :53:50. | :53:51. | |
job to the best of my ability. It is up to the voters. We had the birth | :53:51. | :53:52. | |
up to the voters. We had the birth up to the voters. We had the birth | :53:52. | :53:53. | |
up to the voters. We had the birth of a new political party this week, | :53:53. | :53:54. | |
of a new political party this week, of a new political party this week, | :53:54. | :53:55. | |
of a new political party this week, of a new political party this week, | :53:55. | :53:56. | |
and they call for an old one to pull and they call for an old one to pull | :53:56. | :53:58. | |
and they call for an old one to pull and they call for an old one to pull | :53:58. | :53:59. | |
out of the Executive. It is all in out of the Executive. It is all in | :53:59. | :54:04. | |
out of the Executive. It is all in The Week In 60 Seconds. | :54:04. | :54:06. | |
The Week In 60 Seconds. The Week In 60 Seconds. | :54:06. | :54:07. | |
Sinn Fein made history by appearing Sinn Fein made history by appearing | :54:07. | :54:08. | |
Sinn Fein made history by appearing before visiting MPs, but they didn't | :54:08. | :54:09. | |
before visiting MPs, but they didn't before visiting MPs, but they didn't | :54:09. | :54:12. | |
before visiting MPs, but they didn't turn up when mid Ulster was debated. | :54:12. | :54:13. | |
turn up when mid Ulster was debated. turn up when mid Ulster was debated. | :54:13. | :54:14. | |
They and the Unionist unity They and the Unionist unity | :54:14. | :54:17. | |
They and the Unionist unity candidate stayed away. TUC leader | :54:17. | :54:18. | |
candidate stayed away. TUC leader candidate stayed away. TUC leader | :54:18. | :54:23. | |
candidate stayed away. TUC leader sought help from an old foe. You are | :54:23. | :54:29. | |
sought help from an old foe. You are sought help from an old foe. You are | :54:29. | :54:30. | |
sought help from an old foe. You are my MP. The SDLP were urged to leave | :54:30. | :54:31. | |
my MP. The SDLP were urged to leave my MP. The SDLP were urged to leave | :54:31. | :54:32. | |
the Executive. I would personally the Executive. I would personally | :54:32. | :54:33. | |
the Executive. I would personally the Executive. I would personally | :54:33. | :54:33. | |
believe that the best thing for us believe that the best thing for us | :54:33. | :54:36. | |
believe that the best thing for us believe that the best thing for us | :54:36. | :54:37. | |
believe that the best thing for us to do is to pull out, and be free to | :54:37. | :54:39. | |
to do is to pull out, and be free to to do is to pull out, and be free to | :54:39. | :54:40. | |
to do is to pull out, and be free to be a real opposition. Basil and John | :54:40. | :54:41. | |
be a real opposition. Basil and John be a real opposition. Basil and John | :54:41. | :54:42. | |
be a real opposition. Basil and John stepped out together to reveal a new | :54:42. | :54:45. | |
stepped out together to reveal a new stepped out together to reveal a new | :54:45. | :54:45. | |
stepped out together to reveal a new party, with no name. We don't think | :54:45. | :54:46. | |
party, with no name. We don't think party, with no name. We don't think | :54:46. | :54:50. | |
party, with no name. We don't think we need to wave flags to provide the | :54:50. | :54:51. | |
we need to wave flags to provide the leadership than Northern Ireland | :54:51. | :54:52. | |
leadership than Northern Ireland leadership than Northern Ireland | :54:52. | :54:54. | |
needs. And Sinn Fein showed they needs. And Sinn Fein showed they | :54:54. | :54:56. | |
needs. And Sinn Fein showed they personally believe in a shared | :54:56. | :54:59. | |
personally believe in a shared personally believe in a shared | :54:59. | :55:09. | |
:55:09. | :55:13. | ||
He's the former Ulster Unionist MLA He's the former Ulster Unionist MLA | :55:13. | :55:14. | |
turned Independent, who recently turned Independent, who recently | :55:14. | :55:15. | |
turned Independent, who recently turned Independent, who recently | :55:15. | :55:17. | |
said the time was right for the said the time was right for the | :55:17. | :55:18. | |
said the time was right for the creation of a new, more moderate | :55:18. | :55:22. | |
creation of a new, more moderate creation of a new, more moderate | :55:22. | :55:23. | |
Unionist party. That David McClarty Unionist party. That David McClarty | :55:23. | :55:24. | |
Unionist party. That David McClarty Unionist party. That David McClarty | :55:24. | :55:25. | |
said he will not be joining the said he will not be joining the | :55:25. | :55:26. | |
said he will not be joining the said he will not be joining the | :55:26. | :55:28. | |
party set up by Basil McCrea and party set up by Basil McCrea and | :55:28. | :55:29. | |
party set up by Basil McCrea and John McCallister, or not yet | :55:29. | :55:31. | |
John McCallister, or not yet John McCallister, or not yet | :55:31. | :55:32. | |
John McCallister, or not yet anyway. Why not? I thought about it | :55:32. | :55:34. | |
anyway. Why not? I thought about it anyway. Why not? I thought about it | :55:34. | :55:35. | |
anyway. Why not? I thought about it long and hard. I consulted with my | :55:35. | :55:38. | |
long and hard. I consulted with my family, consulted with constituents | :55:38. | :55:40. | |
family, consulted with constituents family, consulted with constituents | :55:40. | :55:40. | |
family, consulted with constituents and people coming into my office. I | :55:40. | :55:42. | |
and people coming into my office. I and people coming into my office. I | :55:42. | :55:43. | |
and people coming into my office. I had to go back to my original | :55:43. | :55:44. | |
had to go back to my original had to go back to my original | :55:44. | :55:45. | |
had to go back to my original decision after I was elected, when I | :55:45. | :55:47. | |
decision after I was elected, when I decision after I was elected, when I | :55:47. | :55:47. | |
decision after I was elected, when I was quoted by other parties to join | :55:47. | :55:49. | |
was quoted by other parties to join was quoted by other parties to join | :55:49. | :55:50. | |
was quoted by other parties to join them. At the forefront of my mind | :55:50. | :55:51. | |
them. At the forefront of my mind them. At the forefront of my mind | :55:51. | :55:52. | |
them. At the forefront of my mind was the people who voted me as an | :55:52. | :55:54. | |
was the people who voted me as an was the people who voted me as an | :55:54. | :55:56. | |
independent Unionist, and I had to independent Unionist, and I had to | :55:56. | :55:57. | |
independent Unionist, and I had to take them into consideration, and | :55:57. | :55:58. | |
take them into consideration, and take them into consideration, and | :55:58. | :56:00. | |
take them into consideration, and the reasons why they voted for me. I | :56:00. | :56:01. | |
the reasons why they voted for me. I the reasons why they voted for me. I | :56:01. | :56:03. | |
decided I would remain independent. decided I would remain independent. | :56:03. | :56:04. | |
decided I would remain independent. You could never have foreseen the | :56:04. | :56:05. | |
You could never have foreseen the You could never have foreseen the | :56:05. | :56:06. | |
circumstances that have come about, circumstances that have come about, | :56:06. | :56:08. | |
circumstances that have come about, circumstances that have come about, | :56:08. | :56:09. | |
where a new party that is entirely where a new party that is entirely | :56:09. | :56:10. | |
where a new party that is entirely in line with your political world | :56:10. | :56:11. | |
in line with your political world in line with your political world | :56:11. | :56:17. | |
view, would be created. Indeed. I view, would be created. Indeed. I | :56:17. | :56:18. | |
view, would be created. Indeed. I support the vision that John and | :56:18. | :56:20. | |
support the vision that John and support the vision that John and | :56:20. | :56:21. | |
support the vision that John and Basil have, but I was not elected on | :56:21. | :56:26. | |
Basil have, but I was not elected on Basil have, but I was not elected on | :56:26. | :56:26. | |
Basil have, but I was not elected on that basis. That is primary in my | :56:26. | :56:29. | |
that basis. That is primary in my that basis. That is primary in my | :56:29. | :56:31. | |
mind. Recently, you have talked mind. Recently, you have talked | :56:31. | :56:32. | |
mind. Recently, you have talked in-store Mont about getting better | :56:33. | :56:33. | |
in-store Mont about getting better in-store Mont about getting better | :56:33. | :56:36. | |
voted rights for smaller parties. voted rights for smaller parties. | :56:36. | :56:38. | |
voted rights for smaller parties. voted rights for smaller parties. | :56:38. | :56:39. | |
Are you not doing your voters out of Are you not doing your voters out of | :56:39. | :56:41. | |
Are you not doing your voters out of Are you not doing your voters out of | :56:41. | :56:42. | |
a better voice at store Mont by not a better voice at store Mont by not | :56:42. | :56:43. | |
a better voice at store Mont by not banding together with others in your | :56:43. | :56:45. | |
banding together with others in your banding together with others in your | :56:45. | :56:46. | |
banding together with others in your party. The more of you there are, | :56:46. | :56:47. | |
party. The more of you there are, party. The more of you there are, | :56:47. | :56:50. | |
the bigger your voice would be. the bigger your voice would be. | :56:50. | :56:52. | |
the bigger your voice would be. Absolutely, at the present time, | :56:52. | :56:53. | |
Absolutely, at the present time, Absolutely, at the present time, | :56:53. | :56:54. | |
speaking rights of those like myself speaking rights of those like myself | :56:54. | :56:55. | |
speaking rights of those like myself speaking rights of those like myself | :56:55. | :56:58. | |
who are on their own in the who are on their own in the | :56:58. | :57:00. | |
backbenches are practically backbenches are practically | :57:00. | :57:01. | |
backbenches are practically non-existent. If other parties put | :57:01. | :57:02. | |
non-existent. If other parties put non-existent. If other parties put | :57:02. | :57:04. | |
enough speakers forward, then we enough speakers forward, then we | :57:04. | :57:05. | |
enough speakers forward, then we enough speakers forward, then we | :57:05. | :57:06. | |
don't get an opportunity at all. I don't get an opportunity at all. I | :57:06. | :57:07. | |
don't get an opportunity at all. I don't get an opportunity at all. I | :57:07. | :57:09. | |
take your point that I could perhaps take your point that I could perhaps | :57:09. | :57:11. | |
take your point that I could perhaps best represent my constituents if I | :57:11. | :57:12. | |
best represent my constituents if I best represent my constituents if I | :57:12. | :57:13. | |
best represent my constituents if I was member of another party, but I | :57:13. | :57:14. | |
was member of another party, but I was member of another party, but I | :57:14. | :57:16. | |
was member of another party, but I was not elected as a member of | :57:16. | :57:17. | |
was not elected as a member of was not elected as a member of | :57:17. | :57:18. | |
was not elected as a member of another party. Do you think it was | :57:18. | :57:20. | |
another party. Do you think it was another party. Do you think it was | :57:20. | :57:21. | |
something you would consider if you something you would consider if you | :57:21. | :57:22. | |
something you would consider if you something you would consider if you | :57:22. | :57:23. | |
decided to run at the next election? decided to run at the next election? | :57:23. | :57:24. | |
decided to run at the next election? decided to run at the next election? | :57:24. | :57:25. | |
That you would run as a member of That you would run as a member of | :57:25. | :57:29. | |
That you would run as a member of That you would run as a member of | :57:29. | :57:30. | |
that new party? One never says never that new party? One never says never | :57:30. | :57:32. | |
that new party? One never says never in politics. There was a previous | :57:32. | :57:34. | |
in politics. There was a previous in politics. There was a previous | :57:34. | :57:35. | |
first minister who said never four first minister who said never four | :57:35. | :57:36. | |
first minister who said never four first minister who said never four | :57:36. | :57:37. | |
times, and then in the end he said, times, and then in the end he said, | :57:37. | :57:38. | |
times, and then in the end he said, times, and then in the end he said, | :57:38. | :57:39. | |
all right then. But that would be all right then. But that would be | :57:39. | :57:40. | |
all right then. But that would be all right then. But that would be | :57:40. | :57:42. | |
for the future. If I decide to go for the future. If I decide to go | :57:42. | :57:44. | |
for the future. If I decide to go for the future. If I decide to go | :57:44. | :57:45. | |
that way, it would be put before the that way, it would be put before the | :57:45. | :57:46. | |
that way, it would be put before the that way, it would be put before the | :57:46. | :57:47. | |
electorate. No way you would go back electorate. No way you would go back | :57:47. | :57:48. | |
electorate. No way you would go back to the Ulster Unionist Party, is | :57:48. | :57:50. | |
to the Ulster Unionist Party, is to the Ulster Unionist Party, is | :57:50. | :57:52. | |
to the Ulster Unionist Party, is there? Not in the way it is going. | :57:52. | :57:54. | |
there? Not in the way it is going. there? Not in the way it is going. | :57:54. | :57:55. | |
there? Not in the way it is going. There is nothing between the DUP and | :57:55. | :57:57. | |
There is nothing between the DUP and There is nothing between the DUP and | :57:57. | :57:57. | |
the Ulster Unionist's. Thank you. the Ulster Unionist's. Thank you. | :57:57. | :58:00. | |
the Ulster Unionist's. Thank you. the Ulster Unionist's. Thank you. | :58:00. | :58:03. | |
Stay with us. Noel Doran and Kate Stay with us. Noel Doran and Kate | :58:03. | :58:04. | |
Stay with us. Noel Doran and Kate Marshall. A new party. It doesn't | :58:04. | :58:06. | |
Marshall. A new party. It doesn't Marshall. A new party. It doesn't | :58:06. | :58:07. | |
Marshall. A new party. It doesn't have a name. Would it benefit from | :58:07. | :58:09. | |
have a name. Would it benefit from have a name. Would it benefit from | :58:09. | :58:13. | |
being three Musketeers instead of being three Musketeers instead of | :58:13. | :58:13. | |
being three Musketeers instead of being three Musketeers instead of | :58:14. | :58:14. | |
two? Clearly it would. There is not two? Clearly it would. There is not | :58:14. | :58:15. | |
two? Clearly it would. There is not a great track record for unionists | :58:15. | :58:16. | |
a great track record for unionists a great track record for unionists | :58:16. | :58:18. | |
a great track record for unionists over the past few years. There is an | :58:18. | :58:19. | |
over the past few years. There is an over the past few years. There is an | :58:19. | :58:21. | |
opportunity there, but it is going opportunity there, but it is going | :58:21. | :58:24. | |
opportunity there, but it is going to be tough. Unionist councillors | :58:24. | :58:25. | |
to be tough. Unionist councillors to be tough. Unionist councillors | :58:25. | :58:26. | |
seem to be abandoning John seem to be abandoning John | :58:26. | :58:27. | |
seem to be abandoning John seem to be abandoning John | :58:27. | :58:27. | |
McCallister, so it is going to be a McCallister, so it is going to be a | :58:28. | :58:31. | |
McCallister, so it is going to be a McCallister, so it is going to be a | :58:31. | :58:32. | |
lonely road for him. Basil will also lonely road for him. Basil will also | :58:32. | :58:33. | |
lonely road for him. Basil will also faces challenges as well. The | :58:33. | :58:34. | |
faces challenges as well. The faces challenges as well. The | :58:34. | :58:34. | |
faces challenges as well. The spotlight is on them, and it will be | :58:34. | :58:37. | |
spotlight is on them, and it will be spotlight is on them, and it will be | :58:37. | :58:40. | |
tough. Can I broaden the tough. Can I broaden the | :58:40. | :58:42. | |
conversation? You advise businesses conversation? You advise businesses | :58:42. | :58:43. | |
conversation? You advise businesses on leadership. What is your message | :58:43. | :58:44. | |
on leadership. What is your message on leadership. What is your message | :58:44. | :58:48. | |
on leadership. What is your message to our leaders at Stormont? When I | :58:48. | :58:49. | |
to our leaders at Stormont? When I to our leaders at Stormont? When I | :58:49. | :58:50. | |
think about business and leadership, think about business and leadership, | :58:50. | :58:51. | |
think about business and leadership, think about business and leadership, | :58:51. | :58:52. | |
there's a couple of things that come there's a couple of things that come | :58:52. | :58:54. | |
there's a couple of things that come to mind. Firstly, people are looking | :58:54. | :58:55. | |
to mind. Firstly, people are looking to mind. Firstly, people are looking | :58:55. | :58:59. | |
for clarity and their leaders. They for clarity and their leaders. They | :58:59. | :59:00. | |
for clarity and their leaders. They for clarity and their leaders. They | :59:00. | :59:01. | |
are looking for a clear vision, and are looking for a clear vision, and | :59:01. | :59:02. | |
are looking for a clear vision, and are looking for a clear vision, and | :59:02. | :59:04. | |
a clear way that that vision is a clear way that that vision is | :59:04. | :59:05. | |
a clear way that that vision is communicated. They are looking for a | :59:05. | :59:06. | |
communicated. They are looking for a communicated. They are looking for a | :59:06. | :59:07. | |
communicated. They are looking for a sense of something that they can put | :59:07. | :59:08. | |
sense of something that they can put sense of something that they can put | :59:08. | :59:10. | |
their hope in, and something to their hope in, and something to | :59:10. | :59:12. | |
their hope in, and something to follow that enables them, with | :59:12. | :59:14. | |
follow that enables them, with follow that enables them, with | :59:14. | :59:14. | |
clarity, to move forward with clarity, to move forward with | :59:14. | :59:16. | |
clarity, to move forward with confidence. Voters can see through a | :59:16. | :59:20. | |
confidence. Voters can see through a confidence. Voters can see through a | :59:20. | :59:21. | |
lack of clarity. Absolutely. A lack lack of clarity. Absolutely. A lack | :59:21. | :59:22. | |
lack of clarity. Absolutely. A lack lack of clarity. Absolutely. A lack | :59:22. | :59:23. | |
of clarity causes folks to set aside of clarity causes folks to set aside | :59:23. | :59:24. | |
of clarity causes folks to set aside of clarity causes folks to set aside | :59:24. | :59:29. | |
-- step aside and find their own -- step aside and find their own | :59:29. | :59:33. | |
-- step aside and find their own -- step aside and find their own | :59:33. | :59:35. | |
way. David, bringing you in again. A way. David, bringing you in again. A | :59:35. | :59:36. | |
way. David, bringing you in again. A joke was made yesterday about yet | :59:36. | :59:41. | |
joke was made yesterday about yet joke was made yesterday about yet | :59:41. | :59:41. | |
another Unionist party. Do you think another Unionist party. Do you think | :59:41. | :59:44. | |
another Unionist party. Do you think another Unionist party. Do you think | :59:44. | :59:45. | |
there is a well of support their there is a well of support their | :59:45. | :59:47. | |
full liberal, moderate, progressive full liberal, moderate, progressive | :59:47. | :59:51. | |
full liberal, moderate, progressive unionism, or has that disappeared? | :59:51. | :59:52. | |
unionism, or has that disappeared? unionism, or has that disappeared? | :59:52. | :59:54. | |
There certainly is, because 45% of There certainly is, because 45% of | :59:54. | :59:55. | |
There certainly is, because 45% of the electorate do not vote | :59:55. | :59:58. | |
the electorate do not vote the electorate do not vote | :59:58. | :59:59. | |
presently. Perhaps they are fed up presently. Perhaps they are fed up | :59:59. | :00:01. | |
presently. Perhaps they are fed up with the orange and green, and | :00:01. | :00:03. | |
with the orange and green, and with the orange and green, and | :00:03. | :00:04. | |
people always at each other's people always at each other's | :00:04. | :00:06. | |
throats, and nothing constructive throats, and nothing constructive | :00:06. | :00:06. | |
throats, and nothing constructive about welcoming people from all | :00:06. | :00:08. | |
about welcoming people from all about welcoming people from all | :00:08. | :00:13. | |
sections of the community into sections of the community into | :00:13. | :00:15. | |
progressive unionism. Kate, its progressive unionism. Kate, its | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
progressive unionism. Kate, its International women's Day on Friday. | :00:17. | :00:18. | |
International women's Day on Friday. International women's Day on Friday. | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
You chide Women In Business in You chide Women In Business in | :00:20. | :00:20. | |
You chide Women In Business in Northern Ireland. We had a | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
Northern Ireland. We had a significant political figure who | :00:24. | :00:24. | |
significant political figure who significant political figure who | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
significant political figure who happens to be a woman on today. | :00:27. | :00:29. | |
happens to be a woman on today. happens to be a woman on today. | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
Today, do we still need women's Today, do we still need women's | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
organisations and big international organisations and big international | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
organisations and big international events to promote women in society? | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
events to promote women in society? events to promote women in society? | :00:37. | :00:38. | |
Absolutely. Our organisation is only Absolutely. Our organisation is only | :00:38. | :00:39. | |
Absolutely. Our organisation is only Absolutely. Our organisation is only | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
ten years old, and we have grown to ten years old, and we have grown to | :00:41. | :00:43. | |
ten years old, and we have grown to 900 members. That in itself tells | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
900 members. That in itself tells 900 members. That in itself tells | :00:45. | :00:46. | |
900 members. That in itself tells you there is a need for women's | :00:46. | :00:47. | |
you there is a need for women's organisations. International women's | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
organisations. International women's organisations. International women's | :00:50. | :00:51. | |
Day is successful, it draws and Day is successful, it draws and | :00:51. | :00:52. | |
Day is successful, it draws and attracts and celebrates women all | :00:52. | :00:54. | |
attracts and celebrates women all attracts and celebrates women all | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
attracts and celebrates women all over the world to talk about their | :00:55. | :00:56. | |
over the world to talk about their over the world to talk about their | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
achievements. Even in the States, achievements. Even in the States, | :00:58. | :00:59. | |
achievements. Even in the States, they have nominated March as the | :00:59. | :01:01. | |
they have nominated March as the International women's month, so | :01:01. | :01:02. | |
International women's month, so International women's month, so | :01:02. | :01:03. | |
International women's month, so clearly there is still a need. | :01:03. | :01:04. |