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Our top ministers finally get face time with the Prime Minister - who | :01:26. | :01:35. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2246 seconds | :01:36. | :39:02. | |
gives Fermanagh the G8 summit. Join Hello and welcome to Sunday | :39:02. | :39:10. | |
Politics in Northern Ireland. Soaking up the applause from the | :39:10. | :39:12. | |
party faithful, Peter Robinson sets out plans to woo new members, | :39:12. | :39:14. | |
including Catholics. As budget negotiations stall in Brussels, | :39:14. | :39:17. | |
what will the stalemate mean for peace funds here? The economist | :39:17. | :39:20. | |
Mike Smyth sets out the difficulties ahead. And with their | :39:20. | :39:23. | |
take on events, Liam Clarke of the Sunday Times and Denzil McDaniel of | :39:23. | :39:33. | |
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The DUP has undergone many changes in the past few years. It's become | :39:37. | :39:39. | |
Northern Ireland's biggest party, it's gone into government with Sinn | :39:39. | :39:42. | |
Fein and it's attracted members and voters from other unionist parties. | :39:42. | :39:45. | |
But it has never attracted into its ranks a representative from the | :39:45. | :39:47. | |
cross-community Alliance Party. As our Political Correspondent, Gareth | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
Gordon, reports from the annual conference, that may be about to | :39:50. | :40:00. | |
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The annual conference appears to grow year on year. This is not a | :40:08. | :40:14. | |
party in need of resuscitation. One problem for parties that have grown | :40:14. | :40:24. | |
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so quickly is to keep that momentum going. Enter this man. He was at | :40:25. | :40:31. | |
councillor for the Alliance Party. Yes, the Alliance Party. Have you | :40:31. | :40:40. | |
left the Alliance Party because of their support for our that issue? | :40:40. | :40:49. | |
It is something that is incompatible with my beliefs. | :40:49. | :40:54. | |
have some very good friends here and I have been invited to the | :40:54. | :41:02. | |
conference to look around. Are you considering joining? Yes, I am. | :41:02. | :41:07. | |
a member yet, but for the party leader that is just a new detail. | :41:07. | :41:11. | |
Over the past decade we have gone from strength to strength, not by | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
closing our doors, but welcoming in all those who share out Lucan | :41:16. | :41:21. | |
values. And let me say, tantalisingly, we are not finished | :41:21. | :41:28. | |
bringing people into the party yet. The party is also keen to show it | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
is listening to those already in the ranks. Mr Robinson spoke again | :41:32. | :41:37. | |
of attracting Catholics, that means toning down some of the All | :41:37. | :41:43. | |
cimbalom -- symbolism and rhetoric, but not completely. If no longer | :41:43. | :41:52. | |
can Sinn Fein be allowed to have it all ways. Going to the Parliament | :41:52. | :41:58. | |
periodically to it let sectarian speeches be spied a debt. Pick up | :41:58. | :42:05. | |
their expenses by doing nothing. It is time for Parliament to act with | :42:05. | :42:11. | |
the situation and we will be making sure they do that once and for all. | :42:11. | :42:18. | |
As a former director of publicity for the UUP, this man had never | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
attended a conference before. What did he think? I could not have come | :42:22. | :42:29. | |
here 10 years ago comfortably. I would not have been invited onto | :42:29. | :42:34. | |
their platform of far a panel discussion. I have enjoyed it, | :42:34. | :42:39. | |
there is a sense of excitement that I have not seen at a party | :42:39. | :42:48. | |
conference. And so say all of them. As they clapped and cheered, this | :42:48. | :42:55. | |
man responsible for making it happen. | :42:55. | :42:58. | |
Gareth Gordon reporting. After his speech, Peter Robinson spoke to our | :42:58. | :43:00. | |
Political Editor, Mark Devenport, who asked first about Mr Robinson's | :43:00. | :43:08. | |
opposition to a border poll. think everybody knows what the | :43:08. | :43:16. | |
outcome of a border poll would be in Northern Ireland. Why would we | :43:16. | :43:21. | |
carry this out when we know everyone is content to remain in | :43:21. | :43:27. | |
the United Kingdom. It will take the focus away from other problems | :43:27. | :43:33. | |
they are facing. You say your critics within Sinn Fein regard you | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
talk about changing the system instalment wrongly as summer tent | :43:37. | :43:41. | |
to go back to the 1930s. What are you looking for or what you think | :43:41. | :43:51. | |
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is realistically achievable? -- Stormont. I think we need to change | :43:59. | :44:04. | |
the length of some of these processes. On top of that I am | :44:04. | :44:11. | |
comfortable with the idea of advocating for a proper official | :44:11. | :44:16. | |
opposition. At the moment we don't have such an opposition. But there | :44:17. | :44:23. | |
the SDLP and Ulster Unionists, if they are not content that they can | :44:23. | :44:28. | |
make a valuable contribution in the Executive, then I would not stop | :44:28. | :44:31. | |
them from building into the competition. I would facilitated in | :44:31. | :44:37. | |
terms of resources being made available. We have had a lot of | :44:37. | :44:43. | |
arguments about the opposition. Sinn Fein is sceptical about it. Do | :44:43. | :44:48. | |
you think changes will be cutting down the numbers and Parliament? | :44:48. | :44:53. | |
will see the answer to that very soon. We have committed ourselves | :44:53. | :44:57. | |
to bring our proposals before the end of the year. So in the next few | :44:57. | :45:00. | |
weeks we will be getting down to the hard work of bringing forehead | :45:00. | :45:06. | |
a final document on the issue. I think we have a ludicrous situation | :45:06. | :45:11. | |
where people say they want to get into opposition went for all | :45:11. | :45:16. | |
intents and purposes they are an opposition now. They are happy to | :45:16. | :45:19. | |
have ministerial positions and take other benefits from that. When | :45:19. | :45:24. | |
there is a hard to decision to be made, we see dust from their heels. | :45:24. | :45:28. | |
If they want to be mature members of an Executive, that is the best | :45:28. | :45:37. | |
way. They they cannot make that commitment, the alternative is | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
there for them. I gather that potentially we may be hitting a | :45:41. | :45:45. | |
similar debate about civil service pension reform in the next few days | :45:46. | :45:50. | |
that you were not able to agree in the Executive? There was no | :45:50. | :45:55. | |
argument in terms of the content. That was already agreed by the | :45:55. | :46:01. | |
Executive. I think we know the financial consequences if we were | :46:01. | :46:06. | |
to reach parity in terms of their pensions. The only argument will be | :46:06. | :46:09. | |
about what process we should go through in order to have that | :46:09. | :46:18. | |
result. Whether it should be an Assembly vault. And their | :46:18. | :46:22. | |
consequences of having a slower process. That will be the | :46:22. | :46:32. | |
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discussion. Rather than the content. -- vault. How seriously are you | :46:39. | :46:48. | |
considering running two candidates? We are considering it. It is a | :46:48. | :46:53. | |
matter for the internal party machine to consider. I have made it | :46:53. | :47:00. | |
clear my support for Diana, I think she has done as if -- a fantastic | :47:00. | :47:06. | |
job in Europe. Whether we put a second candidate in is something | :47:06. | :47:12. | |
the party Executive will decide. You made it clear that you're not | :47:12. | :47:22. | |
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convinced by their reconciliation Chatterjee -- strategy for the | :47:23. | :47:31. | |
Executive. In terms of the consent, the first deputy and I are on the | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
same place. They are some issues that the SDLP are looking at and | :47:35. | :47:43. | |
they should be given the time to do that. I have indicated my patient | :47:43. | :47:47. | |
to get this out. There is further work they can be done with party | :47:47. | :47:52. | |
leaders. We have made a good job. There were parties that were there | :47:52. | :47:58. | |
for most of the time and for political reasons I think we have | :47:58. | :48:04. | |
decided they want to distance themselves. I do not think the | :48:04. | :48:07. | |
electorate will take account way. This is an important issue, it is | :48:07. | :48:12. | |
right we get a strategy that people can buy into it. I do not think the | :48:12. | :48:22. | |
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ball take timely one people saying -- taking a solo stance. -- vote. | :48:26. | :48:29. | |
With me now are Liam Clarke of the Belfast Telegraph and Denzil | :48:29. | :48:35. | |
McDaniel of the Impartial Reporter. You heard what Mr Robinson had is | :48:35. | :48:42. | |
in there. Any surprises? She has continued with reaching out to the | :48:42. | :48:51. | |
community. But what he does not talk about is that he is also that | :48:51. | :49:01. | |
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-- delivering on a fundamental issue. A -- that does not come into | :49:02. | :49:06. | |
it. That is there to keep some people online for the reaching out | :49:06. | :49:12. | |
staff. What you make about this pitch to bring more Catholics into | :49:12. | :49:19. | |
the D L P? Is that achievable? Is it something that Party can move | :49:19. | :49:27. | |
on? I think there were mixed messages on that yesterday. I | :49:27. | :49:32. | |
thought there was some flag-waving from the leader as well. That is a | :49:32. | :49:38. | |
real danger. He did talk at great length. There is great surprise | :49:38. | :49:42. | |
that someone from the Lions party may join the party. I think it is a | :49:42. | :49:47. | |
huge step to think the Catholics were joined the party as well. It | :49:47. | :49:51. | |
was significant he mentioned the border poll because it is a big | :49:51. | :49:54. | |
step to imagine that Catholics may feel comfortable in the United | :49:54. | :50:00. | |
Kingdom at the moment. But will they vote? The significance is if | :50:00. | :50:05. | |
we get a border poll, the mechanism will say it happens every seven | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
years. And week are then in a debate for the future of Northern | :50:09. | :50:15. | |
Ireland. What about the motion from the Alliance Party being tempted | :50:15. | :50:22. | |
perhaps to join the DUP? They hint was strong that this is a move that | :50:22. | :50:30. | |
he might make? Yes, it was. He said he might stay as an independent., | :50:30. | :50:35. | |
at that case what was he doing there? He said his friend and I | :50:35. | :50:41. | |
them. It was a sign of changed times. I agree it will be hard to | :50:41. | :50:46. | |
get Catholics in with the current position. It was interesting when | :50:46. | :50:52. | |
Peter Robinson repeated he would facilitate opposition. That is | :50:52. | :50:58. | |
where he will target members. will be interesting to see that | :50:58. | :51:03. | |
happen. Do you get a sense that that is a move politically that is | :51:03. | :51:10. | |
do it all? I think it is. It is as a prize in this sounds that I do | :51:10. | :51:20. | |
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not know the man. -- a surprise. For now, thank you very much indeed. | :51:26. | :51:28. | |
Could the British government's insistence on an EU budget freeze | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
put our next tranche of European peace money in jeopardy? The Ulster | :51:31. | :51:34. | |
unionist MEP, Jim Nicholson, has warned that the Peace and | :51:34. | :51:37. | |
Reconciliation Fund is in grave danger of not being extended past | :51:37. | :51:39. | |
2014. Since 1995 Northern Ireland and the Irish border counties have | :51:39. | :51:43. | |
benefited from around �1.35bn in funding. The current Peace III | :51:43. | :51:53. | |
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programme is due to end next year. How much do think that funding is | :52:03. | :52:08. | |
hanging in the balance? Their British Prime Minister wants a | :52:08. | :52:14. | |
freeze and the budget in real terms. It is under some pressure. However, | :52:14. | :52:20. | |
I remember the circumstances of the last negotiation, it was very much | :52:20. | :52:25. | |
last-minute decision. It was done well after the final negotiations. | :52:25. | :52:30. | |
I have a feeling that this and, everything is agreed invisible in | :52:30. | :52:38. | |
Brussels, it will probably be signed off after the main | :52:38. | :52:45. | |
negotiations over. I am not as pessimistic as gem is. He says that | :52:45. | :52:48. | |
the political well does not seem to be there on the part of the UK | :52:48. | :52:53. | |
Government. It wants this freeze on the European Union budget, it is | :52:53. | :52:57. | |
not prepared to make they ask for Northern Ireland to get the special | :52:57. | :53:02. | |
funding. He says the UK has got to step up to the players. Yes, I | :53:02. | :53:08. | |
think the UK has to indicate the desire to have the package. That is | :53:08. | :53:12. | |
part of the negotiation. I do not think people expect Mr Cameron to | :53:13. | :53:17. | |
achieve a freeze in real terms. The question is what kind of work will | :53:17. | :53:27. | |
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run can he get? -- wiggle room. That is the thing. How much can he | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
stand over making the case for Northern Ireland when there are | :53:31. | :53:36. | |
other areas in the European Union where the need is at least as great, | :53:36. | :53:41. | |
if not even significantly greater? That is a difficult one. In the | :53:41. | :53:49. | |
context of a huge budget of a trillion Euros, the peace package | :53:49. | :53:54. | |
is not really terribly vague. What we're looking at here in the | :53:54. | :53:59. | |
negotiation is about the big-ticket items, about the British rebate, | :53:59. | :54:04. | |
about major cohesion funding and structure of funding. And the way | :54:04. | :54:07. | |
these things tend to be negotiated is the big items are negotiated for | :54:07. | :54:17. | |
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us, then the devil is in the detail. The officials work that out. My | :54:18. | :54:23. | |
assumption as a peace package is agreed out invisible. A final | :54:23. | :54:27. | |
discussion will be around the size of it rather than whether there | :54:27. | :54:33. | |
will be one are not. In the overall budget, it is a small budget. For | :54:33. | :54:38. | |
Northern Ireland it is a significant amount of money. | :54:38. | :54:44. | |
Accessing those funds under at peace funding programme would have | :54:44. | :54:48. | |
as significant impact on community groups across the country? It's | :54:48. | :54:55. | |
certainly would. It is perhaps not widely acknowledged, but their role | :54:55. | :55:04. | |
the European Union has played, cannot be understated. We should | :55:04. | :55:13. | |
understand it is an important package. What impact with it have | :55:13. | :55:18. | |
any a place of work and her manner? I think there are high hopes that | :55:18. | :55:23. | |
the programme will happen. People need it happened. I think you could | :55:23. | :55:31. | |
be argued that over the various projects, the real peace building | :55:31. | :55:36. | |
has taken place on those projects long grassroots level. There are | :55:36. | :55:41. | |
community groups that have benefited from it. I heard this | :55:41. | :55:46. | |
morning an interesting discussion about a project where victims were | :55:46. | :55:50. | |
able to tell their stories, which was vitally important. There are | :55:51. | :55:56. | |
many projects that need to continue. Those are rural projects that | :55:56. | :56:01. | |
Denzel is talking about. There are City projects, whether it is in the | :56:01. | :56:05. | |
north-west are Belfast, there are equally important to those groups? | :56:05. | :56:13. | |
Absolutely. There are some big- ticket items and there. I do not | :56:13. | :56:18. | |
have a says that we are not going to have a programme, or what might | :56:18. | :56:22. | |
happen is that the amount that has been expected might be reduced, | :56:23. | :56:29. | |
depending on the outcome of the negotiations. What's -- what you | :56:30. | :56:39. | |
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make of the idea of a pleading? are in a recession. European money | :56:41. | :56:50. | |
has been useful. There are some things the Executive finds | :56:50. | :56:57. | |
difficult to agree on. I think it would be a bad effect of we did not | :56:57. | :57:01. | |
get it and I think Europe would like to hold us up as an example of | :57:01. | :57:06. | |
conflict that could be sold. You are right, it is time we got past | :57:06. | :57:13. | |
the poor us, the handouts. It will take a year or two yet. Do you feel | :57:13. | :57:21. | |
uncomfortable about that? It is not a pleading. What have the European | :57:22. | :57:28. | |
is done for us? Quite a lot. 1.3 5 billion euros of funding. Look | :57:28. | :57:33. | |
across the border and we see and new roads network. This is money | :57:33. | :57:37. | |
coming into bills society here. It is vital work they should continue. | :57:37. | :57:43. | |
It has been short-term. What would you call it? Brussels has done more | :57:43. | :57:51. | |
for us here. Since Britain joined the European Union, the commission, | :57:51. | :57:58. | |
we have received more or. The Treasury has netted it off. My | :57:58. | :58:02. | |
feeling is we will have a programme and it will be something of a | :58:02. | :58:09. | |
similar scale, spread over a longer period of time. So you're answer is | :58:09. | :58:19. | |
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quite a lot? Quite a lot. If our national Government decided to keep | :58:20. | :58:25. | |
the money. They said they would spend it here anyway. We notice | :58:25. | :58:28. | |
that south of the border because the infrastructure was so poor | :58:28. | :58:33. | |
until the late 1980s. We will find out in due course. Many community | :58:33. | :58:40. | |
groups Bobby sitting with their fingers crossed in the meantime. -- | :58:40. | :58:50. | |
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will be. Now for the week in 60 Seconds - with Martina Purdy. | :58:51. | :58:54. | |
Our top ministers finally get face time with the Prime Minister, who | :58:54. | :58:58. | |
gives Fermanagh the G8 summit. have decided the right place to | :58:58. | :59:08. | |
hold it is right here And wait for it - Jim Wells' | :59:08. | :59:12. | |
apology for offending a Sinn Fein minister and her advisor. You are | :59:12. | :59:19. | |
going to have a long wait. What Ann Travers whose sister was | :59:19. | :59:28. | |
murdered by the IRA had to say about its murder campaign. | :59:28. | :59:30. | |
The price of discrimination, Protestant Alan Lennon is awarded | :59:31. | :59:33. | |
�150,000, after a Sinn Fein minister Conor Murphy failed to | :59:33. | :59:43. | |
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appoint him. My individual role as That was a Freudian slip there. | :59:57. | :00:01. | |
Marina Purdie with the making 60 seconds. I do not know what Stephen | :00:02. | :00:09. | |
Agnew was hinting at there. Let's talk about the G8. You're newspaper | :00:09. | :00:14. | |
broke the story and scoot everybody as far as everybody is concerned. | :00:14. | :00:20. | |
You are able to say we told you so. The difference -- question is what | :00:20. | :00:23. | |
difference will it make when these world leaders appear in Fermanagh | :00:23. | :00:33. | |
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in June? It used set aside and look at the G8 issue, these world | :00:34. | :00:42. | |
leaders, will they make a difference? It is vital for a | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
summer like Northern Ireland tizzy this massive scale of an event | :00:46. | :00:52. | |
coming, it will showcase for a man and Northern Ireland. Do you think | :00:52. | :00:58. | |
it will have a big impact on the community of a man and a wall of | :00:58. | :01:04. | |
Northern Ireland? Your paper was saying this could be a �100 million | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
bonus for the county? I didn't do that one. But they are adding up | :01:09. | :01:17. | |
the effect on hotels and restaurants. If the town will be | :01:17. | :01:22. | |
fooled when the holiday season has not started. Will they chase the | :01:22. | :01:27. | |
protest to account as well? I think traders are canny enough to go for | :01:27. | :01:36. | |
either. They will spread across to Donegal and Sligo as well. I think | :01:36. | :01:41. | |
the big thing for us will be for people halfway across the world who | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
still think we're a bit like the Ritz, they will seek that the G8 | :01:44. | :01:51. |