25/11/2012 Sunday Politics Scotland


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Welcome to The Sunday Politics. As Rotherham heads for a by-election

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on Thursday, the Labour-run Council is engulfed by a row over the

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decision of its social services department to remove three children

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from their foster parents because the couple were members of UKIP. We

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will be talking to a former Children's Minister in our top

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story. This week marks the 70th

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anniversary of the Beveridge Report, which gave us the welfare state.

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But is it now time to build a new welfare state? Liam Byrne, Labour's

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Work and Pensions spokesman, joins us for the Sunday Interview.

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And to regulate or not to regulate the press by statute. That is the

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burning question the Prime Minister will have to answer this week, when

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Leveson reports on Thursday. The two sides go head to head.

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And on Sunday Politics Scotland... Could you afford to pay for your

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defence if you are charged with a crime? Holyrood wants to cut the

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1601 seconds

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Legal Aid budget. So who picks up What ever plan is sketched out, it

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1601 seconds

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10 us never forget, you cannot really talk about a free press and

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the situation. I a lot of this was to do with the behaviour of the

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newspaper group with which you were involved. There are plenty of laws

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already in place. Except the press still behaves disgracefully the way,

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for instance, it has treated the McCann family. Why does it deserve

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another chance in the last-chance saloon, when you have been drinking

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in there for 60 years and nothing has changed? Their recent cases,

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but not instantly recent. The newspaper industry is not going to

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go back down that road. There are other ways of dealing with

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miscreants and cases of bad conduct. There could be a system of press

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regulation by the press, but not run by them, but run by outsiders.

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That they said, we are going to behave ourselves, everyone would

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say that is OK. But the lesson is that that that does not get a deer

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to. When it comes to the lock, you can only make use of the lot if you

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are incredibly rich. But what about people who are attacked to do not

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have any money. That has to be stopped. They will lose conditional

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fee arrangements, which was the only way that people who had no

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money could get redress. The E East have access, the swift response and

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guaranteed action by the newspapers are to act upon what they were told,

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in you lot would not force the police to do anything we did not do

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in the past. To suggest that the rules put forward will work is just

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nonsense. It is just a contract between the press which the press

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will not enforce. The is no barrier to entry at all. He is there is.

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Every newspaper war have an ombudsman. There will be forced to

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act swiftly. But they will be hired by the press. The law. Is it will

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not be. The proposals which have been put forward to say that. If

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you have not seen them, I will give you a copy of them. The full thing

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is actually quite a long report. Thank you for that. It is all there.

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But this is the Mafia getting together. It is not the Mafia.

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when we talk about the disgraceful treatment of the McCann family by

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some British tabloids, will that not happen again. Mr X will always

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be made. -- mistakes will always be made. But there will never be a

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case like that of the McCann family ever again. Their report is

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Good morning and welcome to Sunday Politics Scotland. Coming up on the

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programme... If you ended up in a criminal court,

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could you afford a lawyer? Changes set to come in will mean fewer

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people will qualify for legal aid. The Justice Secretary says the

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small not undermine access to justice. And I will be finding out

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how a skills shortage in the renewables sector threatens

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Scotland's energy targets. And will Spain and Catalonia live

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happily ever after? We will be live in Barcelona, the day they go to

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the polls. Could you afford to pay for your

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defence if you are charged with a crime? The government wants to make

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more people stump up, but critics say they are targeting those who

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can least afford it. So is this a simple tweak in the Legal Aid Bill

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or a dangerous challenge to access to justice? Hayley Jarvis is at

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Glasgow Sheriff Court. If you end up in here, will you be

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able to afford to pay for a lawyer? The criminal legal aid bill last

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year was �98 million. The Scottish government says this has to change

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and more people will have to come up with the cash.

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Under their plans people who, at the moment, would get their defence

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costs paid will face bills of hundreds of pounds. And if you have

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a disposable income of more than �68 a week, you are in the frame

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here. Lawyers are threatening to strike

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over the plans, but those who support the bill say the Justice

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Secretary has to balance the books somehow. He has made the policy

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choice that he wants to provide civic legal aid. I personally think

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it is the decent thing to do. We are any recession.

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So who will have to pay? Not those on benefits would fall below the

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threshold and not middle income families, who would not qualify for

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criminal legal aid anyway. Critics of the plans say it is

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those who can least afford it - people who are working, but do not

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make much money. Now is is about access to justice. It is about the

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21-year-old on the minimum wage who would be represented in court, but

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who might not be. It is not a contribution, it is the removal of

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legal aid. The government wants to save �3.9

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million on the criminal legal aid budget, saying the system must

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become more efficient. They insist the changes will widen access to

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justice. But their critics say they will have the opposite effect. They

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are predicting chaos in the courts with more people defending

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themselves and innocent people pleading guilty because they cannot

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afford a defence. Very often, people do not have sympathy for a

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solicitor's. But there is the case that a fair trial could be

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interfered with and this is a test of the Scottish legal system.

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Everyone in Scotland has a legal right to a fair trial. For a

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government hoping to save money, the cost of denying people an

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adequate defence could prove extremely expensive in the appeal

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courts. Just before we came on air, I spoke to Justice Secretary Kenny

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MacAskill, who was in our Edinburgh studio, and suggested to him there

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was an obvious danger that access to justice would be compromised.

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do not believe so. What we have got to remember is that the legal-aid

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budget was the second highest on record. Two-thirds of that was

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spent on criminal legal aid. We have been faced with massive cuts

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from London and we have to look at the role of every organisation. We

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need to preserve the integrity of the legal system - not go down the

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road of south of the border where you cannot get legal aid for a

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whole range of things - and that is why we support the principle of

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contributions to the victims of domestic violence, there should be

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contributions from the alleged perpetrators. These contributions

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would be the same. There is obviously a legal obligation on you

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to run a system which guarantees a fair trial. If we look at the

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potential consequences of what you are proposing, if people plead

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guilty because they feel they cannot afford legal aid, that is

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one issue. Another one is that if people defend themselves and come

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up against a professional prosecutor and a thrill weight of

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the government prosecuting machine, you are saying you have no concerns

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about this would breaching fair trial considerations? Nor, I do not.

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I do not want to be where we are, but we have the huge legal-aid

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budget and we are facing huge cuts. We need to have a shared burden. 82

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% of people who apply for work legal-aid do not have to make a

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contribution. After that, the contributions would be fairly minor.

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This has been made clear by Parliament, why should the victim

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of domestic violence have to pay for getting a protection order when

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the alleged perpetrator does not have to pay? That has been a

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manifest injustice in Scottish legal aid. We are going to change

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that. We want to create a level playing field. As I said, the vast

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majority will not have the contribution to pay and others will,

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but it will be assessed on their ability to pay and, in most cases,

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the contributions will be modest. That way, we protect the integrity

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of the system and there is no evidence that similar systems which

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operate elsewhere that justice is interfere with. It is the 20 % that

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you are talking about who will be called on to contribute. It could

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be argued that people who are regularly in court to not have jobs

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and a guaranteed to fall below this threshold. It is low income

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families who will be most affected by this. For example, someone with

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an income of �160 a week will pay �473 as the contribution to the a

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legal aid. That is just a few pounds short of the entire fixed

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fee. That is not a contribution figure which is known to me. Back

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interior of someone who earns more than �200 who will have nothing to

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pay. The figures you for what are not recognisable to me. It does

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seem to me that there has to be some parity. At the moment, we're

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getting children who have to be taken into care should have to pay

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a contribution. Victims of domestic violence should not have to pay

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when the alleged perpetrator does not. They should have to pay. It is

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wrong that they should not be in the victim should have to. What

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about the expenses park? We are never had that system in Scotland.

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He faced the sanction that the court pits upon you. It is not a

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question of expenses. For instance, someone who is privately paying

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would not get any costs back. someone defends himself in court

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and Barnes really expensive court time and if it turns out you have

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to then go to the Appeal Court, this amount in savings will be a

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drop in the ocean? That is right. If the scenario panned out that way,

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but the evidence from elsewhere is that there are not many more people

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appealing. There are always some people who choose to appear

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unrepresented in Scotland. But evidence from elsewhere suggests

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that people do not become more unrepresented. Are you reviewing

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the threshold? He yes, they are. This threshold is the same

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threshold for a similar legal aid. I have made it clear I would like

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to see an increase in the threshold. It would be manifestly unfair if

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the victim of domestic violence should have to pay a higher

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contribution than the alleged perpetrator. I am prepared to

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increase that threshold. We will have discussions with the loss

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society on that. But we have no more money for that, so it will

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have to come out of the legal aid budget. Her which she described

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you're relationship with Scotland's solicitors, who are threatening to

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go on strike again. I do not like to see us and the situation. But we

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are having to cope with cuts from Westminster. I do not like to see

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injustice anywhere. But we have to come to terms with the consequences

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of cuts from Westminster and we have to look at that budget. The

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budget from my office says that legal aid will have to be cut by

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seven % in its budget. But that compares with a cut of 17 % south

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of the border. The but it will mean that we retain all the situations

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where back people will still be able to get legal redress. He know

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that in civil actions you can get expenses and you can get damages

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from that. Do you accept that you where it defence solicitor that you

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will be astonishing them with this proposal? You can have your

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children taken from year by the powers that are available and the

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consequences that up apply to civil matters. I have never

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underestimated the amount of trauma in relation to the likes of

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domestic violence. There is a manifest injustice there. A work

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legal-aid budget is the highest ever. 14 legal firms received over

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�1 million from legal aid. But it is their own fixed fees and this

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idea that they are all making money hand over fist is not right. If

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they are learning that, they are doing it the requisite number of

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cases. I have not seen the are a earning money hand over fist.

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suggesting we are in difficult times and the need to take a share

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of that band that burden. We will protect those who need to be

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protected. That goes for the victims as well as the perpetrators.

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Thing to very much. -- thank you very much.

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A leading engineering company has called on the Scottish government

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for help to bridge a skills gap in the renewables sector. This comes

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as a report from Holyrood's energy committee says that gap and other

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key areas are hurdles to ambitious green energy targets. It is hoped

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the equivalent of 100% of Scotland's electricity needs will

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be generated from renewable sources by 2020. There are some flashing

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images at the beginning of this report. Degree is a bright future

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in a growing industry for these apprentices. But training from this

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college courses not enough to get people up to scratch. We would like

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them to be here for the remainder of the week that there is no

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funding mechanism for that to happen. We need to do more tough

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bridge that gap. It is agreed that the skills gap could hurt the

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industry. Some environmental groups say that the targets are to

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bureaucrat of too bureaucratic and counter-productive. We want to be

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good places for communities and to his arm. There is adequate space

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for us to be developing an infrastructure. That was not a few

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shared by everybody. The committee took the view that the independence

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debate was not having a negative The Scottish government see the

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report as a vindication of their green policy. It is about

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generating income for communities, jobs for many people in the nation.

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Not 18,000 as the First Minister stated, then corrected this week.

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Of those jobs will be subsidised by households across the UK.

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Westminster makes clear how much that bill will be in the future.

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are investing into cream -- green energy. At the moment it is 2% of

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people's bills by 2020 it will be 7%. Infighting has made the

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decision about setting green targets has been delayed until

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after the next election. Ed Davey has been diminished and his

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defensive about this delay. Opposition parties have been angry

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that targets have not been made. Crucial hurdles need to be met

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before they can be achieved. Joining me from our Dundee studio

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is Mike Weir and the MSP Tavish Scott. Mike, if we look at the

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subsidy structure, how much is a problem is to secured long-term

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investment if there is not a certainty about the subsidy

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structure coming out of Westminster. Investors want to know the long-

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term structure because these investments are for the long term.

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The energy bill has put forward a new structure, we have yet to see

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the detail. There are already worries about how which will work

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and whether the price for Nuclear will be higher than for offshore

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wind. We need to detail this to see how we go forward. We need -- we

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are keen to build up renewable energy. But we need to have the

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structure correct. Tavish Scott, access to the grade is being called

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for, but it looks as if the islanders will not get reduced

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costs at this stage? Yes, that issue needs to be resolved. But

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Shetland has agreed to set up a working group to tackle the

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island's issues. The two governments should work together on

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this vitally important thing, that renewables coming into Scotland can

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feed into the grid. The regulator is right to roll-up -- to insist

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that happens at a cost which does not put this projects in jeopardy.

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De you feel that the independence to pay -- debate is itself creating

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controversy and putting off investors? That is the view of

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Scottish and Southern Electricity, one of the biggest players in the

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industry. Their views, the industry views, are more cautious than the

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political ones. It means that there is uncertain future simply because

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why could England rely on this, they could purchaser from anywhere.

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Is there evidence that the debate in itself, or where energy would be

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bought from in the future, would be a problem? No, there is none. If

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you look at a Viva, who invested in Scotland to build wind turbines.

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England will still need energy. Maybe -- Tavish Scott Scott says

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maybe they won't buy it from Scotland, who knows. But Scotland

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has a huge black -- potential for renewable energy. The capability

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gap between what is produced and what is needed within Great Britain

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is producing. But Scotland can continue to sell energy to the rest

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of the UK. It is not unusual to sell energy across Borders. Tavish

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Scott, let me ask you about the other potential hurdles, is the

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planning or training? The crucial issue is training. We have had a

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discussion over college funding in recent weeks. Your report

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illustrated the need for funding of colleges. It has been cut in

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government -- in Scotland by the Scottish government. I want the

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government to get their ducks in a row. I think it is right to have

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these desirable long-term targets but they also have the -- have to

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have the other building blocks in place, the skills. The college

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sector is under pressure from the government and they need to be

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given the flexibility to get on. Mike comedy next accept that there

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is a problem with training at this point? -- Mike, do you accept.

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should look at what the oil and gas industry are doing. They have their

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own training bodies. People in my constituency are getting

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apprentices. It is a competitive industry and there are crossovers

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between it the renewable industry and oil and gas. It is not only the

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government, the industry itself also should look at how it trains

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up the skills that it needs. What about construction and generation,

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what you think the picture is at the moment at the moment? In

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different parts of Scotland, is there enough of a spread? Projects

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are delivered by individual companies making assessments of the

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best capabilities. In other words, where it is best to put wave and

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tidal energy. The West Coast and the Northern Isles of Scotland are

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important in terms of the ways and tides. In terms of the construction

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contracts, would that have to be a these localised places, or could

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there be a better spread? I don't think it is for the government to

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start laying down will wear Industry decides where it wants to

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build wind turbines Towers or other infrastructure that they need for

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these projects. We didn't tell Aberdeen to become the offshore

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centre of Europe. The industry did that. That's the way it should be.

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Mike, we are out of time but do you think you'll meet your electricity

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target by 2020. We will, in a way we have already exceeded our

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interim target and there is a bright future for renewal energy in

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Scotland. Coming up after the news, we visit

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the Spanish region of Catalonia as voters go to the polls as the

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governing party seek a mandate to hold their own referendum. Let's

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cross now for the news with Maxine Good afternoon. One woman has died

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and hundreds have been driven from their homes in storms. Scotland has

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form -- has borne the brunt of the weather. -- the South West.

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The rain has stopped but the market town of Malmesbury is under three

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feet of water. People had to be rescued from the worst floods in

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decades. We had around eight or nine inches on Wednesday night.

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Everybody has said they had never seen anything like this before.

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Dozens of businesses have been -- homes have been left under water.

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All we could do was mark the position of the flood water. At the

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height of the storm, high winds brought down the streets in Exeter.

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A woman had been camped in the tent underneath. Two men were also

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injured. It was the south-west which bore the west of the

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overnight rain. At one point there were four severe flood warnings in

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this county. There are still more than 200 alerts in place. In Devon,

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hundreds of homes were deluged by the floodwaters, with the residents

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using any means to keep the flood waters down. It is coming in all

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the rooms. The flood waters may have begun to recede for now, but

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there is more to come. Another band of heavy rain is expected.

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Our correspondent is in Cornwall where the river burst its bank --

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its banks. More bad weather on the way?

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Yes, and things were pretty bad last night in the whole of Cornwall.

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Overnight, the river levels here rose dramatically, resulting in a

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severe flood warning, the most severe that the Environment Agency

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give. That has been downgraded in the last hour. The skies are still

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looking pretty leaden. The rain it may have stopped but we know that

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more bad weather is on the way. A fresh weather system is due to come

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through bringing more rain to the south-west and heavy and persistent

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rain to the north-west of England and the north of Wales this

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afternoon. A new law criminalising stalking

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has come into effect in England and Wales today. Those convicted will

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face up to six months in jail. The change followed a parliamentary

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inquiry which showed that 120,000 people, mostly women, are stalked

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every year. People have died in a clothing

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factory fire in Bangladesh. People jump from windows to escape the

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blaze. It was in the capital. Good afternoon. BAE Systems could

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decide to close one of their major shipyards next month. The future of

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Govan, Scotstoun and Portsmouth are in doubt after the completion of

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two new aircraft carriers. The chief executive has warned

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manufacturing may stop at one of the sites. BAE are in discussions

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with ministers about the future - union leaders say they're

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apprehensive. We have had talks with the company and that has been

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the suggestion. In reality, the sooner the decision is made, the

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better. It is just fuelling speculation.

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Scottish Women's Aid is launching a campaign to highlight why women do

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not leave violent homes when they're being abused. It's called

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Together We Can Stop It and looks at ways the public can stop abuse.

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Victims' real stories have been recorded and released on the

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charity's website. Rugby - and Andy Robinson has

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stepped down as Scotland coach. The Scottish Rugby Union made the

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announcement in the last hour. Yesterday's defeat to Tonga was the

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19th in Robinson's 35 matches in charge and comes at the end of a

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calendar year which began with the RBS Six Nations wooden spoon.

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After all the fine weather yesterday, a rather dull affair. A

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lot of rain around central Scotland and eastern Scotland. That will go

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into the North Sea. It would turn to snow near Aberdeen. A trying

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picture from the West. It will fill rather cold today under all that

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cloud temperatures will go to about six Celsius. We are picking up a

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fresh northerly wind across the Now it is that time of the day

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where we take a look back at the highlights of the Week in 60

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Seconds. It was a wet start to the week for

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many people across Scotland, with flooding causing major disruption

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to roads and towns. The further education saga

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continued, when Education Secretary Mike Russell apologised to MSPs for

:08:02.:08:09.

giving wrong information on college budgets.

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MSPs from Scotland's three largest opposition parties launched their A

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New Union plan, to find agreement on further powers for Holyrood if

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Scots vote no to independence. Labour's Michael McMahon was banned

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from the chamber for a day after heckling the Speaker, Tricia

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Marwick. Mr McMahon said he felt the punishment did not fit the

:08:28.:08:38.
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crime. Order! Order! I would ask you to withdraw it that remark.

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And no agreement on the European Union's budget. Prime Minister

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David Cameron insisted the deal on offer "was not good enough".

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The people of Catalonia vote today after a bitter and hard-fought

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campaign dominated by the issue of independence from Spain. The

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elections were called by Catalan president Artur Mas, in a bid to

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get a mandate for a referendum, something the government in Madrid

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has ruled out. But there has been a furious response, with one Spanish

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newspaper accusing Mr Mas of corruption just a week before the

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poll. Our political correspondent is in Barcelona. Sealed with a kiss.

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A happy couple celebrate their wedding day. Modern Spain was

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united. Their political successors have fallen out. President Artur

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Mas called for a referendum to get the mandate on independence. It was

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rejected by Madrid. A sea of red and yellow Catalan flags came out

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demanding a new place within the country. Even if he does get

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support at the ballot box, it does not mean it is going to happen. The

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Spanish constitution blocks the road to independence. Independence

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campaigners say they need to have their say. TRANSLATION: We need to

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be given the chance. Things got rather messy after a leading

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newspaper accused Artur Mas of corruption. Companies are come here

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because what it is like and have people find that the government is

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putting up walls around the region, it would be catastrophic. Those in

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favour of independence hope that the vote goes their way and the

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force Spain to give them a fort on independence few. What kind of

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result is expected? What are the early indications? It is clear

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enough that there will be a majority in favour of independence.

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The real question is whether Artur Mas gets the out right majority he

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needs. He is having to deal with these corruption allegations. He is

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accusing the Spanish President of been behind these allegations. But

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of course, there are also having to deal with their share of the

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austerity of which is gripping all of Spain. As Scotland been

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mentioned in this? Yeah, it is very interesting. Artur Mas has called

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for an Alex Salmond style push for independence. Now, at regarding the

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NATO situation, they have become very clear on this, as opposed to

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Scotland, when Alex Salmond became very defensive when asked on the

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issue. Thank you for that. Sorry that we were slightly off sink on

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that report. We will have to leave it there. We will get early polling

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and L indications of their results later this evening.

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Political magazine presented by Andrew Neil and Isabel Fraser.


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