12/05/2013 Sunday Politics Scotland


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Politics. It's the big Euro referendum vote

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next week. No, not for us. For MPs. So how will Euro-sceptics in the

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Cabinet vote? We'll ask Defence Secretary Philip Hammond. Will Mr

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Hammond's plan to make up for cuts in regular troop numbers by doubling

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the number of reserves work? And if it doesn't, what then? The Defence

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Secretary is our Sunday Interview. It's the big idea the government

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thinks will be a game changer for the economy: so is help to buy a

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Thatcherite master stroke or a recipe for sky high house prices?

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Labour and the Tories go head to head. And on Sunday Politics

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Scotland: Will the lights go out? The outgoing chairman of leading

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power company SSE tells us about the uncertain future in the world of

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1804 seconds

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built. You didn't build enough houses when you were in power.

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What's the Tories have managed to achieve is the lowest record in

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peacetime years since the 1920s so they really have nothing to boast

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about. People who are out there and went on to the housing ladder are

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desperately looking to get into a housing association. They want to

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see housing Bill and it is interesting that the Treasury Select

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Committee report very clearly states that that should be the focus of

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looking at the supply as well as the demand. There are real concerns that

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have to be addressed. Are you going to vote for this EU referendum and

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maintenance to the Queens speech? Yes I am. Thank you very much.

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Welcome to Sunday Politics Scotland. Coming up on the programme: Sparks

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fly in the energy debate - as Ian Marchant's leadership of SSE draws

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to a close - he says policy-makers have created an uncertain future.

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Who would start building a gas pump today on the basis of the market

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recovering and the government to get its policy right. They are going to

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see, let's wait until one of those has happened. And I'll be looking

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ahead to the by-election. You use it, we use it - governments

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stand or fall depending on the supply of it. The cost - and use of

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- energy is always at the centre of political debate. In a

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straight-talking interview, the outgoing chairman of SSE has been

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speaking to us about his predictions for rising costs, increasing

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conflict with policy makers about investment and the eventual need for

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new nuclear power stations. Edinburgh by night. Beautifully

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illuminated, unlike large parts of the industry which power that. And

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all these lights cost. The average household Bill has gone up 47% since

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2008. According to the outgoing chairman of SSE, that is not going

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to change any time soon. The most likely scenario is the unit price of

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energy will continue to go up. But it is the unit price. You control

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the other bit of the equation, the unit you use. I think the real price

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of smart metering is that it will tell you what you are using and you

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can then take control and make reasonable decisions about how much

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energy you are using. I think that will actually restore some trust in

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the industry. Smart metering may create some transparency but its

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introduction has just been postponed for one year. In he believes that

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politicians need to be more honest. He says the cost of successive

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governments policies to make the UK greener and more energy-efficient

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have been passed straight to the industry. And therefore on to us,

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the consumers. The Generation Game as lucrative. SSE returned 1.3

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billion and profits last year. But most of the country 's power

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stations are nearing the end of their working life. Replacing them

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is going to prove costly. government has said that they will

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introduce new policy. But they haven't actually introduced new

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policy and to quote Donald Rumsfeld, they have created a known

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unknown. They have said that they will intervene but you have to

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wait. So what do you do? You wait. Who would build a gas plant and

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start building a gas plant today on the basis of the market will recover

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and the government will get its policy right? They are going to

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say, let's wait until at least one of those has happened. In the

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meantime, he says that other solutions are needed. More

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investment in demand management technology and greater use of

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renewables like hydropower. already generates 10% of Scotland's

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energy needs and this month marks its 70th anniversary. Just this

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week, SSE unveiled plans for a �30 million scheme in Ross shire. But

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that doesn't mean there is no place for nuclear and the long-term. My

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objections to nuclear at the moment are that it is the wrong technology

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at the wrong place for the wrong company but we should wait. We can

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afford as a country to wait. There is a lot of interesting technology

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in nuclear going on. And in the US where they are looking at generation

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for technology and smaller reactors. They are easier and quicker to

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build. The UK should wait. He admits that SSE let its customers down. He

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has apologised and is adamant that the company has made changes and is

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now in much better shape. But can the same be said for the rest of the

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industry? Energy's global, policy's reserved

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to Westminster and planning is an issue for Holyrood. So how does the

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industry and politicians address the various issues? I'm joined here in

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the studio by the Scottish Government's Energy Minister Fergus

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Ewing and by Labour's Shadow Energy Minister, Tom Greatrex. The cost of

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bills, that is the most important thing for people. How much power do

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you have in the most important thing for people. How much power do you

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have any Scottish Government to get them down? We don't have the

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influence we would like to have but industry

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industry and with the UK government to bring forward the system of rules

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that is going to be necessary to meet the electricity needs for the

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future. Ian Marchant is quite right to say that at the moment, there are

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no rules to stop therefore, there is an investment hiatus. But we want to

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move swiftly on to concluding a camcorder with the UK government

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about Scotland's role and we do have power to set rocks at the moment.

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Your clips showed a new hydro scheme in Ross shire worth 30 million. SSE

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said that one of the reasons for that is obligation certificates. In

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England, they have just the incentive for hydro. We want to see

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more idle but we want to see a variety of electricity is. When it

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comes to generation, what is required as variety and variety

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alone. Therefore, we will require a continuation of nuclear for some

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time. We are expanding our renewables and that includes onshore

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wind, hydro and pump storage as well. I have been very pleased that

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in the Scottish Parliament, we can debate these matters on the basis of

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rationality and with a fair degree of consensus across the parties.

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Sadly, the process is taking far too long to sort out the MR and get the

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straight prices. The risk is that of Jim has identified that the lights

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will go out and England because the spare capacity as 4% or less and

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that could happen by 2015. We do really require to make progress as

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quickly as possible. We are talking about the lights going out and

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rising energy bills. How much labour to blame after 13 years in power?

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Alistair Buchanan has been very critical of Labour's policy and

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power calling it a car crash. we have is a situation where we have

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a number of power stations that are due to go off-line in the near

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future and we have a need to replace that generation capacity. The thing

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that's happened in the retail market is that over a period of time, we

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have had consolidation of companies. The problem has been that what has

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happened as the generates the power and then sell it on to the consumers

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and businesses across Britain and in Scotland. It is very hard to see

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exactly where the profit is being made. There is a lack of trust

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because people see the high profit figures and we also see their bills

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going up to stop we need to have a reform of the regional part of it

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which isn't covered in the electricity legislation. We need to

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have transparency because you won't have the trust that Ian Marchant was

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talking about until there is real transparency in that market.

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current government have only been in for three years. We should almost be

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reaping the fruits of a coherent energy policy just note that we are

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not. Energy is any real mess at the moment isn't it? In that three

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years, the average dual fuel Bill has gone up by more than �300. We

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have seen a reduction in confidence and investment and renewable

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technology and another technologies over that period of time. We have

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seen a situation where the government is making an off-the-cuff

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remark and have got themselves into even more of a mess. That is

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contributing to the delay. Ian Marchant was absolutely right when

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he was talking about gas power stations and that people are not

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investing because they are waiting to see the way the capacity market

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will work. That is not in any be equal he did energy policy. Looking

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at the burden of social tariffs on top of the actual costs of energy,

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perhaps you as a government are to blame as well because people have to

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pay for the renewable energy sector. People are really feeling

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that pressure at the moment and having to pay for a lot of

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controversial renewables projects? The UK government's figures show

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that if there were not the deployment of renewables, those

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would be much higher. They say that by 2020, if they were not pushed

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renewables, the average Bill would be �166 higher. Bills have been high

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but an analysis of this shows that the reason for that is an increase

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in gas prices vary substantially. There has been a lack of

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consideration to energy policy over decades. The great hasn't had major

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investment since the 60s. Many of the problems about constraint

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payment arrives because of that lack of investment. The good news is that

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because of our success in Scotland, success which independent people

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such as the CEO of the National Grid have said and the clarity of our

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purpose and incentivising union durables -- incentivising renewables

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not we have confidence more amongst investors in Scotland. When you look

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get too closely drawn into that because of legal reasons. I am the

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Minister that took the planning decision there but in general, the

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investment in renewables is strong in Scotland. As has been said by Ian

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Marchant and also by ScottishPower, there is an investment hiatus at the

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moment and therefore, we are very keen that that hiatus should come to

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an end by an agreement and publication of the draft straight

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prices in the next month or so. Scotland has these worlds leading

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climate change targets. You must find that a very laudable thing? The

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best we're trying to achieve those targets is by improving and

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increasing the image of renewable generation. The best and most

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efficient cost-effective and most sensible way of doing it is what

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happens now in that it is paid by consumers across the whole of

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Britain. The magnitude would be completely different. I think the

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system as it is at the moment encourages that and should be

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encouraging at father. The decisions and some of the hiatus in decisions

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as that there are whole of injuries -- incidents. That is another factor

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alongside the weight we still have from some of the detail of the

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marked presence. They are all causing a situation where people are

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stopping and pausing. The cost will increase if we end up in a situation

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where we are even more in hock to the volatile nature of gas prices.

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The best way of getting security of supply into the renewables part of

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that is by getting on with that development. Tom has also pointed

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out the development of wind power, we're not seeing enough generation

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of this? We believe there is massive potential for offshore wind. That

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could create over 20,000 jobs. As it is at the moment, renewable energy

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in Scotland sustains 11,000 jobs and onshore wind has been a stepping

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stone. Without it, they would be no rationale for a 7000 billion pound

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investment. Without that, there cannot be offshore wind. It is all

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part of the jigsaw and our clear support and the Scottish Government

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for renewables along with conventional back-up, has been well

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received by investors. England does need Scotland's energy and

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therefore, following independence, we believe the should continue to be

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a integrated energy market and Scotland will require demand from

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the consumers south of the border. England needs Scotland's energy

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otherwise the lights go out. In a separate Scotland, it is an

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assertion based on an assumption based on a hope that that is what

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would happen. In reality, if England and the rest of the UK required

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energy, they would then make a commercial decision and it is what

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about what is available. That isn't necessary Sara Lee going to be from

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Scotland. There wouldn't be a residual obligation from the rest of

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the UK to Scotland. Very interesting debate. Thank you.

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It's being described as a key litmus test in the independence debate.

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Voters in Aberdeen Donside will vote on the 20th of June to elect a

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successor to the late Brian Adam - the SNP MSP who died last month. Mr

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Adam managed a majority of seven thousand at the last election. If

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Labour did claim the seat - it would deprive the SNP of their majority at

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Holyrood. Niall O'Gallacher has been looking at the numbers.

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I am very sad to have to inform the chamber of the passing of dear

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friend Brian Adam this morning. Parliament paid its respects after

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the death of the SNP member for Aberdeen Donside. A popular figure

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at Holyrood, Brian Adam's passing drew tributes from across the

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chamber. But as he would have understood, politics must go on.

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This week the 20th of June was meant as the day Mr Adam successor would

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be chosen. At the last election SNP won 69 of their 129 seats in the

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chamber behind me. They lost one to the cheer and after suspensions and

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affections, they are now at 65. That is a majority of just one. They

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would have 65 seats in the, that is a minority of MSP's.

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Nationalists are calling the tune and Aberdeen these days. Brian Adam

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that more than half the day -- half the votes leading his party majority

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of over 7000. Councillor Willie Young has been tasked with

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persuading voters to back Labour. Oh well Labour do will be seen as the

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first barometer of how well Johann Lamont is performing and there are

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signs that she is chipping away at the first Minister. She is doing

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really rather well. Her popularity as increasing will stop all these

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polls narrow win? This is a chance to find out. The prospective SNP

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candidate didn't expect to win in 2011 and so came... Roads and

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infrastructure spending looks like being the big issues locally so it

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could come down to this. Who do voters blame or four projects

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professor of politics at Strathclyde University John Curtice. Brian had

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cemented himself in that seat in Aberdeen North in 2003. I

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interviewed him when he won that seat and he got double what Labour

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got in the last Holyrood election. It will be an interesting fight, but

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probably a very strong showing for the SNP. This is one of the SNP 's

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safest seats in Holyrood. This is not a constituency they won against

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everybody's expectations, they first won it in 2003 when they want doing

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very well. It will be a 13.5% swing to Labour if they are to pick it up.

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That said, there are a few notes of caution for the SNP. The first is

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their position in the opinion polls for the party. According to the most

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recent of those, it has been something like a 5% swing since

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2011. Secondly, the general rule of by-elections is they tend to be not

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that good for governments and they are used for protests. We have not

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had a by-election since the SNP gained power in 2007. The Labour

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Party, the senior partners in the coalition with the Lib Dems, lost

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ground, so we shouldn't be surprised if we end up with a bigger swing

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against the SNP than the 5% of the most recent opinion poll. That would

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suggest it won't be a stupendous win for the SNP, even getting the 13.5%

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swing that would be a considerable feather in Labour's cap. Looking at

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the numbers, hypothetically, if Labour did when what would happen in

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Parliament? In practice, it won't make a great deal of difference. Two

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of the defectors from the SNP are still supporting the party. It might

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have some implications for the composition of committees, but the

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truth is the SNP have a dominant position in Holyrood. It would be a

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symbolic loss of the majority rather than anything more substantial.

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looks like Mark McDonald will be the candidate for the SNP, going up

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against Willie Young from Labour. Both are well known local figures.

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They are, which means it will show that the SNP are getting voters to

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think about the performance of the Labour Party in Aberdeen City

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Council and not necessarily what is going on in Holyrood. In

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by-elections in Fife the Labour Party successfully persuaded people

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to focus on the record of the SNP on the Fife Council at that time rather

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than the record of the Labour Government in Westminster. There are

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chinks in Labour's armour on Aberdeen Council. In truth, for the

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most part people are going to be saying to themselves, have happy I

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would Alec Salmond and the SNP? Do I want him representing me? It is very

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much a two horse race. How might the UK coalition partners there in this

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election? They can't look forward to it with a great deal of confidence.

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The Liberal Democrats' position in the polls is still dire. The

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Conservatives aren't doing anything very much in Scotland. UKIP are

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going to fight this by-election as well. They have done tremendously

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well in by-elections in provincial England. Scotland is clearly a

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tougher nut for UKIP. The only got 5% of the vote in 2009. If you look

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at recent opinion polls, that currently looks to be the position

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we are at at the moment. It will be interesting to see how well you

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could manage to do, that I suspect they will be a pale shadow of their

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performance south of the border. Transport and infrastructure will be

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the main things. Bridge crossings will be a local issue and, of

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course, meanwhile some people are anticipating that this will be a

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by-election about independence. I would caution against that. Only 61%

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of the people who said they voted for the SNP say they would

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necessarily vote yes, I think in truce we may well find that the

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SNP's performance in this by-election will probably outperform

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whatever is the current support for independence in the constituency. To

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that extent, we shouldn't read too much into this by-election.

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Thank you very much for coming in. That by-election will be on the 20th

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of June. You are watching Sunday Politics. We are heading to the news

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shortly. After that we will look at the week ahead. The deputy leader of

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the SNP will set out her policies. Good afternoon. The Education

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Secretary Michael Gove has told the BBC he would vote for Britain to

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leave the EU if there was a referendum today. He is the most

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senior Conservative to contemplate backing England's exit from the EU.

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He told the Andrew Marr show that life outside would be perfectly poor

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ball -- tolerable but the best approach would be to let David

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Cameron leader. The most important thing to do is support the Prime

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Minister and then put it to a referendum. Some of my colleagues

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are very exuberant and want to let off steam. My position is to let

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David Cameron set out a platform and have the referendum.

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The former prime ministers of Pakistan says he is confident he

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will be returned to power more than 13 years after he was ousted in a

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military coup. Results from yesterday's election put his

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Pakistan Muslim League well in the lead but the party is expected to

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fall short of a majority, forcing it to go into coalition.

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He had been widely tipped to return to power, but it is still a

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remarkable personal comeback after being ousted as Prime Minister by

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the Army in 2009. -- 1999. It was cricketing legend Imran Khan

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who most threatened his ambitions, galvanising young voters with his

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call for a new Pakistan. With victory apparently insight, the

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leading candidate recognise that a compost and. He said that he will

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fulfil every promise he had made to the youth. Voters yesterday defied

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the violence that had played the campaign. The turnout was 60%, the

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highest in years. If the party fall short of the

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majority they need to govern on their own they will need to deal

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with other parties. He promises stable government, arguing that in

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an effective coalition would be bad news for Pakistan.

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He will have a honeymoon period of sorts, but from the economy to

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tackling extremism time will not be on his side.

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The Syrian government has rejected accusations that it was behind two

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car bombs that killed at least 49 people in Turkey yesterday and

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wounded dozens more. Hundreds of mourners have attended the

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funerals. Nine people, all Turkish, have been arrested in connection

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with the awnings. A group of senior nurses are warning

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of inadequate staffing levels on many hospital boards in England.

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They say healthcare is being put at risk. The government says hospitals

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are best placed to decide on the number of staff places.

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There will be more news on BBC One at six o'clock this evening.

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Good morning, police are still waiting to speak to the critically

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injured daughter of a woman who was found dead in a Greenock hotel.

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Margaret McDonagh was found severely injured in a room in the Premiere In

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on Friday. Her 23-year-old daughter is in a critical condition in

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hospital. The women were not stabbed. Police cannot yet establish

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whether there were suspicious circumstances.

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Firefighters have brought under control a blaze in Cumbernauld. The

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fire broke out in the kitchen of the hotel this morning. A number of

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rooms had to be evacuated, but there are no reports of injuries.

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David Livingstone 's great-grandchildren are to mark the

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anniversary of his birth. They will be special guests at the Church of

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Scotland's General Assembly. They will be remembering his missionary

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work in Malawi and Zambia where he is still regarded as a national

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:00:21.:00:24.

hero. My father kept it a dark secret, but as he says it's just

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your luck or whatnot. We take it quite, you know, modestly, shall we

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say. There are two matches being played

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in the SPL today. Hearts are taking on Hibs while Motherwell face Ross

:00:43.:00:53.
:00:53.:00:56.

It is an unsettled picture with outbreaks of rain affecting parts of

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Scotland, but as the rain moves eastwards it will break up. The rain

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will extend into Shetland later in the day. As far as temperatures go

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the winds will be increasing all the time from the West. Blustery showers

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will follow in its wake, but staying is making news in Holyrood, let's

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look back at the week in 60 seconds. The Queen set out the UK Government

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's programme at the State opening of Parliament. It includes measures to

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curb immigration and preparation for the independence referendum.

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government will continue to make the case for Scotland remaining part of

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the United Kingdom. Alex Ferguson said he is stepping

:01:57.:02:06.

down as manager of Manchester united. David Moyes will take over.

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Edinburgh will be revitalised by adding cafes with outside seating on

:02:12.:02:18.

Princes Street. Joanne Lyman said Alex Salmond

:02:18.:02:28.
:02:28.:02:31.

didn't care about healthcare. At Westminster, Nick Clegg said he

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blocked Tory proposals to increase the number of children staff should

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:02:47.:02:53.

This week we have the recently retired political editor of the

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Sunday Post and the Sunday Times journalist. I think we know who will

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be making the news this week in politics in Scotland. Gordon Brown

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urges Scots not to give up on the UK. Gordon Brown returning to the

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front line as they launch Labour's Row union campaign. Gordon Brown is

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always a very interesting person to watch. We haven't seen much of him

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over the last few years. He is still the MP for Kirkcaldy but he has been

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off doing other things. Friends say that he was despondent after he

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stopped being Prime Minister and it has taken him sometime to get back

:03:38.:03:42.

into it and his wife has been instrumental in helping him to get

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over that period. I think he will come back fighting. The union

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campaign need someone to make a positive case. Whether Gordon will

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do it, I don't know. The headline suggests he will be quite divisive.

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Do you think he is an attractive figure two voters? -- to voters?

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think in England he is treated as a figure of fun almost, certainly in

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political circles, but in Scotland we still think he is one of our

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:04:24.:04:25.

lads. By his own efforts he became a major figure and became Prime

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Minister. Whether he will be a major figure in the no campaign I don't

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know. He is making a speech tomorrow, whether he will be a

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continuing figure I doubt very much. This is not moving away from Better

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Together it is just a Labour campaign and they need those

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footsoldiers if they want to do well. The problem for Labour and

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Netted Together is they have different agendas. They want to see

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the union retained but Labour has very much an anti-Tory agenda at

:05:09.:05:13.

Westminster. When you have a big beast like Gordon Brown wading in,

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:05:23.:05:29.

he will have his own thoughts. There is potential for ructions. Nicola

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Sturgeon more argue that there is a national majority in Scotland. It is

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interesting that the Gordon Brown speech tomorrow has really

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overshadowed the Nicola Sturgeon speech. Most of the papers have gone

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with the Browns speech. Nicola is saying that if Scots believed

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Scotland would be a fairer and better of country and independence,

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they would vote for independence. I think she has a big task on our

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hands to do that. To go back to Labour, I think they have been

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needled slightly. We see the SNP saying Labour in Coalition with the

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Tories. I think this is worrying them a little bit. The fact that

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they are being linked with the Conservatives, they are trying to

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say, this is labour for the union rather than just better together.

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What you think of the phrase a natural majority? There are still

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quite a lot of questions that haven't been answered that are

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piling up. The yes campaign has had a torrid couple of weeks. Nicola is

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very good. She will be trying to put a marker in the sand to try try to

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re-establish that campaign. When it comes to majority, it is the polls

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that kind. Let's look at another issue in the Sunday mail. Nigel

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Farage is downing a paint. He is coming to Scotland on Thursday. It

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will be a very interesting by-election won't it? I don't think

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UKIP or how much impact on the outcome of the by-election. I think

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it is a two horse race between the SNP and Labour. Labour have a good

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candidate, a well-known local councillor. Having said that, that

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may be one of Labour's weaknesses because the SNP can attack Labour on

:07:29.:07:36.

their council record. There is a lot of disquiet over the third Don

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Crossing. The Liberal Democrats have already made a lot of this. If the

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SNP were to lose this it would be a major blow. I think the majority

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will be decreased but I don't see them losing. Do you think Brian Adam

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built up a strong will support there? He had a majority 7000.

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was well liked. He has gone on very sad circumstances. There will be a

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lot of sympathy around that. He seemed to do a good job. For Labour

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to win, it is going to be a huge achievement. That is where the

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Andrew Neil and Andrew Kerr with the latest political news, interviews and debate, guests include defence secretary Philip Hammond.


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