04/03/2012 Sunday Politics South


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Sunday Politics in the South... One in three children living in poverty.

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All parties signed up to eradicate child poverty by 2020 but will they

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1773 seconds

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Hello, I'm Peter Henley, and coming up on the Sunday Politics in the

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South... Lord Coe said he wants the Olympic legacy to be about improved

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sports provision across Britain - but in Dorset, cuts to the county's

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sports budget make that look a bit of a non-starter. First, we will

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meet the two politicians that be will -- that will be with us for

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the next 20 minutes. You are on the defence Select Committee. You are

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off on a trip to the Falklands? later today. It is a routine visit.

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The committee has not been there for a long time and there is

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nothing provocative about it. is what they said about Prince

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William. I think whatever is being done now, Argentina is reacting

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hysterically, I think to very routine things. William is there to

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do a job. We are they to go and see things like the assets we have got

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out there. Nothing provocative about that. Allen, what do you

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think about the situation? It is terribly worrying on the south

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coast because of the history of the Navy had been to take down there

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before. It is different because of the presence in the Falklands and

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around it. That would deter any serious invasion attempt. But it is

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the sabre rattling. The general atmosphere and the closing of

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possible flights and shipping. that all coming from them or could

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we is back a little bit? -- pulled back. I do not think we will be in

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the situation that we were again. Argentina said they will not use

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military force and that they want a long-term change in the status of

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the islands. But the trouble is, you either say that the Falklands

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can go in one direction or another. Actually there is not that much

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room for negotiation. But that is about it. It is a bit of a dead end

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as far as the present situation is concerned. You will be checking on

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the defence facilities. Are you happy or have you got questions?

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That is a routine part of our job. We go to all parts of the world

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where we have got military assets. But the problem with the last

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Falklands war was that we were almost encouraging dialogue with

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Argentina. We are not doing anything provocative. We have had a

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very gentle debate and we have in fact praised servicemen that died

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in Argentina. We are doing a job and we have got to have a firmer

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line and that is not up for Four million children are living in

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poverty in Britain. That's one in three - one of the highest rates in

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the developed world. Tomorrow night's Inside Out has been filming

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on one estate in Southampton with families that really know what

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those statistics mean. My daddy worries about the bills and us

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children and it is a bit hard with the parents. I go without said that

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the children can have things, basically. It is getting harder

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because the price is going up. We are talking about cutting benefits.

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I have got to do that for the best of my family and that is what I am

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here for. I hope they will grow up in a good way, get good schools and

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good jobs and I do not want them to become part of the benefit

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dependency. Not everybody pays their rent and we have got to pay

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rent and we need food. We got a call from the housing office saying

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that it is more important to put a brick on your head than feed your

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children and I am saying it is not. -- CROWD SINGS on your head.

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Is it getting worse? Are people really feeling the pinch in ways

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that you cannot measure rather than people are just not having enough

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money and not getting a job? Yes, things are getting worse and

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families are struggling to make ends meet. The bills are going up

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week by week. Electricity, gas, water. It takes money away from

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what they would normally spend on family life. When you see children

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with expensive trainers, trips to McDonald's, flat-screen televisions,

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do you think they could economise a bit more? You must think that

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sometimes. Sometimes you might think that, yes. But we do not

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often nowhere beats that screen televisions and trainers have come

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from. You would be surprised what you can get from charity shops and

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organisations supporting you. it is a pressure to get these

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things for children, apart from anything else. And also, I heard

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one of the fathers saying that they tried to keep up appearances. The

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children want to go to school and say, we have not got any money

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problems when they are not getting enough to eat. Children are quite

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escheat. They understand when mummy and daddy are struggling. They

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understand when purse strings are getting tighter but they do not

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want to admit that two friends. You are open to all sorts of bullying.

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Well, not bullying, but comments being made and children do not want

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that. They want to be like their friends. And an awful lot of people

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are packed into housing that is not good enough. There are families

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packed into a two-bedroom flats that are waiting for bigger houses

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and we have obviously not got enough housing stock for all of

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them to be housed appropriately. You are doing what you can but I am

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sure the politicians can help. would be wonderful if they could

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give a bit of a hand to some of these families. What would you say

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to these two? One Conservative and one Labour. Labour have been in

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power for a long time before. think about the children. It is

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easy to blame the parents and the adults. But actually, they do not

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necessarily suffer as much. It is the children who supper. Some of

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these people are right to go to people that are defrauding but a

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lot of families are not defrauding and are being penalised and the

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children suffer. It is tough, isn't it? You are bringing in welfare

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changes to get people back to work but he will hit innocent people,

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would you not? First of all, we are going to try and lift three and and

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50,000 families out of poverty by introducing the Universal credit. -

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- 350 thousand. You get weeks where people are not getting money and it

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is pretty chaotic. We are having won at Universal credit which will

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simplify the benefit system dramatically. The other thing it is

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making work really paid. The average income for a household in

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Portsmouth is actually less than the benefit cap we are proposing.

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We have got to get back to having a giggle bit of perspective and to

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really make certain that it is not about people being lazy. -- a

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little bit. We need to encourage that behaviour and that is what we

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are tackling. Do you see it that way? The latter part of the Bill is

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extraordinary, frankly in terms of saying that benefits are going to

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be capped so people will get into work. That work pays. Of coursework

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should pay. But work needs to be there in order to do that. Secondly,

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what I think the Bill completely is missing as far as child poverty is

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concerned is that these families normally live on a very marginal

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cash economy and a small matter of change in the cash coming into

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household can have a devastating effect. The sort of changes that

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are going through the housing benefits where these are encamped

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at a level that would probably put a number of people into homes and

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that is putting pressure on local authorities and destroying the

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family fabric. They cannot cope with that situation. We might

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actually spend more money as far as welfare is concerned as a result.

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This could be more expensive? have got transitional arrangements

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in place. A lot of things that are wrong with the current system is

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that you have got a big dropping off point. If you work more than a

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certain number of hours per week, you get clobbered with benefits. We

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are trying to get away from that and have a gentle running him to

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the new regime. But we have got to change the way we operate. One of

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the fathers in that clip said he did not want his children to be in

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a benefit trap. We have got to change dramatically how welfare

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works. We have got to provide support for people to get them into

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work and stop form-filling and box ticking and courses. We need to get

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them into a job. And you are saying the jobs are not there? People are

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trying to get jobs and state into jobs and one of the things the last

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government did was change the circumstances under which people

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are supported when they are in the process of getting into a job so

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that job is secured and Family Finance is secured. The problem is

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how you change family circumstances so they can think of getting into

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work and staying in to work but at the same time, not making it

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difficult for them by capping benefits and making them possibly

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worse off than before. Good luck with all your work with these

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And you can see the rest of that film on Inside Out tomorrow night

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at 7.30pm on BBC 1 With less than six months to the Olympics, it's

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probably not too early to be wondering what legacy the Games

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will leave behind. We've been promised better facilities and

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increased participation, but as Tristan Pascoe reports from Dorset,

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for some the legacy will be gold, England has taken the silver!

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want local provision for people to have the opportunity to experience

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sport. Not necessarily at the highest level but to have habits

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and patterns in sport. Lord Coe in 2006. In 2012, investment in local

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sport is in the two camps, the hounds and have-nots. You can

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almost smell the investment in Portsmouth. 60 million spent on the

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Sailing Academy behind me. -- �16 million. �26 million spent on the

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marina. A cross the water behind me from where the events will take

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place would be sailing, �3 million worth of an observation platform

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and more than �90 million spent on a relief road bringing people into

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Weymouth and Portland. Loads of money for high profile Olympic

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sailing events but what about other sports? Swanning, for example?

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would be wonderful if we could at investment. -- swimming. We could

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teach them not just to compete but to save lives and also unique to be

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able to swim before saving. But the money is not step. County Council

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funding has been slashed by 11 %. The sport but it has always been

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very small inside the county council. It is all to encourage and

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facilitate groups in order to work together and bring down external

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funding. Easier said than done. This is the aim of Weymouth at Les

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Six Club. -- Weymouth athletics club. It is hardly surprising that

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many local athletes are having to travel hundreds of miles away and

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trained elsewhere. They are not likely to produce the next Jonathan

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Edwards it. All of his children are athlete but because of poor local

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conditions, they train many miles away from home. We would love some

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funding to get a proper track laid. Nothing fancy. Just the bare

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minimum and then people can train and schoolchildren can use it. Lots

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of people come here every year and it is dependent on these facilities.

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The atmosphere is fantastic and the children love it and it would be

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great to carry that arm. The ABS had said they are delivering on the

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Olympic legacy. We have been using this facility to get young people

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into sailing. You can sail for a cheap programmes. We have had 9,000

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people in the water for the first time. I am very confident that we

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will have a long-term legacy. is well and good for the next

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generation. But what about other sports locally? Is a reduction in

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future funding the real Olympic legacy in south Dorset? It is not.

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The legacy is that people will be working very closely together with

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communities and various groups. We have kept the funding in place for

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the staff this year to give us time to make sure we can work with

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communities in order to continue the work that historically, we have

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always done. No cash for community facilities them? What about this?

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Is was given to us by the relief fund and that is supposed to be the

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legacy. They have lost what the Olympics is all about. They got the

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site on Portland but they have lost it elsewhere. They are

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concentrating on the ceiling and not much on anything else. --

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sailing. However well the team does, Lord Coe's hopes that more people

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will get a taste for sport are A bit hit and miss? More than that.

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We have always got a balance between what you do for Olympic

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sports and community sports but actually they are linked. Unless

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children get a good deal for Sport and wants to get enthusiastic and

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go to the next stage, where are the elite sports coming from? That is

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the problem. And learning to swim could save a life? Absolutely. You

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have got to find ways of funding these projects. When it swimming

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was pulled in Portsmouth, a company's debt him and enabled that

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to be funded. -- stepped in. One hospital was built under private

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finance initiative and it has got a swimming pool which any staff can

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use at the moment. Only staff?! That is correct. But actually it

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could be used for other things and I am very pleased to say the

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hospital is considering opening the doors to do that facility to local

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schools. We have got to make better use of what we have got and we have

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got to bring in extra money. This Now, our regular round-up of the

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political week in the South in 60 seconds and this week, it's all

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Fed up with theft of lead from church roofs and a thunderbolt from

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on high? Insurers are providing free alarm systems. We had

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activated the alarm system. Street lamps are too bright, according to

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some local people. They put off burglars but to save electricity,

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councillors agreed to turn some damp. Theresa May said a balance

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must be struck with the rowing lake in Berkshire between security and

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excitement. We need to ensure security but enable the invent to

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be enjoyed. HMS victory. The MoD confirmed they are thinking of a

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change of ownership while keeping the tight ship as a Second Sea Lord.

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98 doggy detectives are being taken on by the Wiltshire police. Eight

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local officer spotted the way that dogs and walkers can sniff out

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Volunteers and fresh men and these dogs have not had any proper

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training! But anyway, we will leave that to one side. But what about

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the bright lights of Hampshire being dimmed? I suppose you're a

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campaign for energy-saving. Well, they can be dimmed a little bit,

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they do not have to be and that is a good thing because that saves a

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lot of energy. One of the bigger risks is that at the base., which

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way do the lights face? -- based point. They are usually pointing

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towards the road and dealing with traffic. Maybe if you turn them

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around and they were not facing the road? Dimming the lights at night

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as they stand at the moment is a good thing and it will probably not

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have a great effect on burglary or anything else other than saving a

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lot of energy. Looking at low- energy light bulbs and where the

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lights are facing might be the factors of the future. Victory? It

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does not matter, yes or no? should be a flagship. But not

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having it just funded by the defence budget and opening it up to

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other sources, like the teacher will be more secured and it will be

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