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And in the Midlands: Councils get a multi-million pound government

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multi-million pound government handouts for rubbish.

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handouts for rubbish. handouts for rubbish.

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The price of guaranteeing weekly in The price of guaranteeing weekly in

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The price of guaranteeing weekly in rent while other services are dumped

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2205 seconds

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rent while other services are dumped And for our own distinctive take on

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And for our own distinctive take on And for our own distinctive take on

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And for our own distinctive take on politics here in our part of the

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politics here in our part of the politics here in our part of the

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world, this is where the Black world, this is where the Black

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world, this is where the Black Country meet Elgar Country. Pat

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Country meet Elgar Country. Pat Country meet Elgar Country. Pat

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McFadden is the MP for Wolverhampton McFadden is the MP for Wolverhampton

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McFadden is the MP for Wolverhampton and Harriet Baldwin is the

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and Harriet Baldwin is the Conservative MP for West

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Conservative MP for West Worcestershire, currently recovering

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Worcestershire, currently recovering Worcestershire, currently recovering

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from three broken fingers. This is from three broken fingers. This is

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from three broken fingers. This is something that we have had coming

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something that we have had coming something that we have had coming

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for years. Ever since it emerged for years. Ever since it emerged

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for years. Ever since it emerged that hundreds more patience than

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that hundreds more patience than that hundreds more patience than

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expected had died at Stafford expected had died at Stafford

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Hospital because of catastrophic Hospital because of catastrophic

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Hospital because of catastrophic failures of patient care. It would

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failures of patient care. It would failures of patient care. It would

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failures of patient care. It would be the first time a hospital had

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be the first time a hospital had be the first time a hospital had

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been put under the watch of administrators.

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administrators. When administrators are working

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When administrators are working When administrators are working

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their plans out, the starting point their plans out, the starting point

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their plans out, the starting point their plans out, the starting point

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is, what is the best way to provide is, what is the best way to provide

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is, what is the best way to provide services? This is all centred around

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services? This is all centred around services? This is all centred around

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how to provide patient care. how to provide patient care.

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how to provide patient care. how to provide patient care.

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And we say this was inevitable, but And we say this was inevitable, but

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And we say this was inevitable, but And we say this was inevitable, but

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Pat McFadden, what does this mean as Pat McFadden, what does this mean as

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Pat McFadden, what does this mean as far as patients are concerned?

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far as patients are concerned? far as patients are concerned?

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far as patients are concerned? I think the people of Stafford must

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I think the people of Stafford must I think the people of Stafford must

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I think the people of Stafford must be wondering what is next for them

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be wondering what is next for them be wondering what is next for them

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and their local healthcare. This has and their local healthcare. This has

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and their local healthcare. This has been a terrible story of human

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been a terrible story of human been a terrible story of human

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suffering in the past at this suffering in the past at this

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suffering in the past at this hospital and what the regulators are

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hospital and what the regulators are hospital and what the regulators are

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hospital and what the regulators are seeing now is that the care provided

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seeing now is that the care provided seeing now is that the care provided

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seeing now is that the care provided in the hospital is coming up to

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in the hospital is coming up to in the hospital is coming up to

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scratch but now they have a scratch but now they have a

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scratch but now they have a financial problem. I think people

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financial problem. I think people financial problem. I think people

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financial problem. I think people should be clear that this is not

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should be clear that this is not should be clear that this is not

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should be clear that this is not like new management being put in to

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like new management being put in to like new management being put in to

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like new management being put in to run the school, this is more serious

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run the school, this is more serious run the school, this is more serious

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run the school, this is more serious and is likely to have a consequence

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and is likely to have a consequence and is likely to have a consequence

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for the range of services supplied for the range of services supplied

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in the hospital. in the hospital.

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in the hospital. in the hospital.

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Harriet, we will be coming to your Harriet, we will be coming to your

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Harriet, we will be coming to your county a little later, and the

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county a little later, and the county a little later, and the

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obvious concern is mid-Staffs now, obvious concern is mid-Staffs now,

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obvious concern is mid-Staffs now, obvious concern is mid-Staffs now,

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but could others go the same way? but could others go the same way?

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but could others go the same way? I think the Francis Report that

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I think the Francis Report that I think the Francis Report that

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showed the deaths happening at this showed the deaths happening at this

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showed the deaths happening at this showed the deaths happening at this

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hospital shows that we do need to hospital shows that we do need to

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hospital shows that we do need to rethink the way in which these

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rethink the way in which these rethink the way in which these

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hospitals are organised, and clearly hospitals are organised, and clearly

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hospitals are organised, and clearly hospitals are organised, and clearly

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with the emphasis that you heard in with the emphasis that you heard in

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Doctor Bennett's comments about Doctor Bennett's comments about

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Doctor Bennett's comments about Doctor Bennett's comments about

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patient care. It has got to be patient care. It has got to be

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patient care. It has got to be focused on the patients rather than

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focused on the patients rather than targets and management structure.

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targets and management structure. targets and management structure.

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targets and management structure. What we need to do is allow our

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What we need to do is allow our What we need to do is allow our

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doctors and clinicians to lead that process.

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process. process.

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There is the likelihood that other There is the likelihood that other

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There is the likelihood that other hospitals, Stoke for a start but

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hospitals, Stoke for a start but hospitals, Stoke for a start but

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also some in Wolverhampton, could also some in Wolverhampton, could

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also some in Wolverhampton, could take a slap from Stafford.

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take a slap from Stafford. take a slap from Stafford.

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take a slap from Stafford. What you are seeing around the West

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What you are seeing around the West What you are seeing around the West

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Midlands area is a number of Midlands area is a number of

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hospitals getting into financial hospitals getting into financial

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hospitals getting into financial difficulty. There are a number of

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reorganisations. Sometimes reorganisations. Sometimes

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reorganisations. Sometimes reorganisations make sense, even if

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reorganisations make sense, even if reorganisations make sense, even if

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they are politically difficult, and they are politically difficult, and

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they are politically difficult, and sometimes it can make sense to

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sometimes it can make sense to sometimes it can make sense to

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locate specialisms in clusters of locate specialisms in clusters of

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locate specialisms in clusters of consultants. But when it is

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consultants. But when it is consultants. But when it is

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financially driven, that is when financially driven, that is when

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financially driven, that is when financially driven, that is when

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people start to ask, is this the people start to ask, is this the

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people start to ask, is this the best thing for patient care?

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best thing for patient care? best thing for patient care?

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best thing for patient care? The NHS has been targeting Sir David

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The NHS has been targeting Sir David The NHS has been targeting Sir David

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The NHS has been targeting Sir David Nicholson. He is now the boss of the

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Nicholson. He is now the boss of the Nicholson. He is now the boss of the

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Nicholson. He is now the boss of the NHS. People say he should go. Do you

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NHS. People say he should go. Do you agree with them?

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agree with them? agree with them?

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agree with them? I do not think it is about one

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I do not think it is about one I do not think it is about one

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individual. We must change the individual. We must change the

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individual. We must change the culture. We must preserve investment

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culture. We must preserve investment culture. We must preserve investment

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culture. We must preserve investment in the NHS. We must reorganise it

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in the NHS. We must reorganise it in the NHS. We must reorganise it

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around patients and doctors, rather than targets.

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than targets. than targets.

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Should Sir David Nicholson go? Should Sir David Nicholson go?

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Should Sir David Nicholson go? The Francis Report was quite clear

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The Francis Report was quite clear The Francis Report was quite clear

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that the problem came from within that the problem came from within

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that the problem came from within that the problem came from within

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the hospital. It was badly run and the hospital. It was badly run and

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the hospital. It was badly run and the hospital. It was badly run and

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badly managed. There is a lot of badly managed. There is a lot of

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badly managed. There is a lot of badly managed. There is a lot of

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attention on him. I am not saying attention on him. I am not saying

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attention on him. I am not saying attention on him. I am not saying

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that he should go, but there are that he should go, but there are

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lessons to be learned. lessons to be learned.

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lessons to be learned. lessons to be learned.

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Coming up, we will be talking about Coming up, we will be talking about

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Coming up, we will be talking about that most hotly contested of council

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that most hotly contested of council that most hotly contested of council

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issues: Bins. From next month, seven issues: Bins. From next month, seven

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issues: Bins. From next month, seven issues: Bins. From next month, seven

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over councils will get money to take over councils will get money to take

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over councils will get money to take over councils will get money to take

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the bins out once per week. We will the bins out once per week. We will

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the bins out once per week. We will the bins out once per week. We will

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be asking if the service is rubbish. More later.

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More later. More later.

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More later. For the moment, we say with hospital

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For the moment, we say with hospital news. In Herefordshire and

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news. In Herefordshire and Worcestershire, just as in

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Worcestershire, just as in Staffordshire, it is about

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Staffordshire, it is about guaranteeing patient care. However,

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guaranteeing patient care. However, guaranteeing patient care. However,

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that requires saving money. Patients that requires saving money. Patients

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that requires saving money. Patients in Redditch need to travel to

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in Redditch need to travel to Worcester, meanwhile Herefordshire

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Worcester, meanwhile Herefordshire Worcester, meanwhile Herefordshire

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is seeking people with deep pockets is seeking people with deep pockets

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to take over. to take over.

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to take over. The government said it had protected

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The government said it had protected The government said it had protected

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NHS spending, but more Trusts are NHS spending, but more Trusts are

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NHS spending, but more Trusts are slipping into the red. The

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slipping into the red. The Worcestershire Trust runs three

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Worcestershire Trust runs three hospitals in Kidderminster,

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hospitals in Kidderminster, Worcestershire, and Redditch. It

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Worcestershire, and Redditch. It Worcestershire, and Redditch. It

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needs to find savings of �50 needs to find savings of �50

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needs to find savings of �50 million. Many patients who arrive

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million. Many patients who arrive million. Many patients who arrive

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million. Many patients who arrive here will be sent to 20 miles away.

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here will be sent to 20 miles away. here will be sent to 20 miles away.

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here will be sent to 20 miles away. here will be sent to 20 miles away.

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I do not think that is a good idea. I do not think that is a good idea.

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Redditch is a big-time. Redditch is a big-time.

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Redditch is a big-time. Redditch is a big-time.

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If it's an emergency, you make a If it's an emergency, you make a

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If it's an emergency, you make a dead before you get there.

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dead before you get there. dead before you get there.

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dead before you get there. I do not think it should be altered

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at all. at all.

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at all. Their MP thinks things will be

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Their MP thinks things will be Their MP thinks things will be

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different if this hospital is run from Birmingham.

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from Birmingham. from Birmingham.

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from Birmingham. I want the people of Redditch to

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I want the people of Redditch to I want the people of Redditch to

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I want the people of Redditch to I want the people of Redditch to

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have a choice. If they want to go to have a choice. If they want to go to

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have a choice. If they want to go to Birmingham, then I expect that this

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Birmingham, then I expect that this Birmingham, then I expect that this

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hospital will be transferred to the Birmingham Trust.

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Birmingham Trust. Birmingham Trust.

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In Herefordshire, a single Trust In Herefordshire, a single Trust

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In Herefordshire, a single Trust runs nursing and the county hospital

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runs nursing and the county hospital runs nursing and the county hospital

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runs nursing and the county hospital runs nursing and the county hospital

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but it is �15 million in the red. It but it is �15 million in the red. It

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but it is �15 million in the red. It is appealing for a white knight.

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is appealing for a white knight. is appealing for a white knight.

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is appealing for a white knight. The difficulties that we see are in

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The difficulties that we see are in The difficulties that we see are in

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The difficulties that we see are in business and the changes in the ways

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business and the changes in the ways business and the changes in the ways

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in which hospitals are being funded. in which hospitals are being funded.

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in which hospitals are being funded. in which hospitals are being funded.

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By taking action to sort out their By taking action to sort out their

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By taking action to sort out their finances, hospital bosses hope to go

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finances, hospital bosses hope to go finances, hospital bosses hope to go

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finances, hospital bosses hope to go and see the future of healthcare in

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and see the future of healthcare in and see the future of healthcare in

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and see the future of healthcare in their area. But it is also a warning

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to others. to others.

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to others. It is confusing, Harriet, because we

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It is confusing, Harriet, because we It is confusing, Harriet, because we

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keep hearing that your government is keep hearing that your government is

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keep hearing that your government is keep hearing that your government is

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ring fencing spending on the NHS and ring fencing spending on the NHS and

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ring fencing spending on the NHS and ring fencing spending on the NHS and

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yet more and more of these Trusts yet more and more of these Trusts

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yet more and more of these Trusts are going into the red.

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are going into the red. are going into the red.

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I think any organisation that spends I think any organisation that spends

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I think any organisation that spends public money must look at how

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public money must look at how public money must look at how

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efficiently it spends it. These efficiently it spends it. These

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efficiently it spends it. These reviews, a game, being led by

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reviews, a game, being led by reviews, a game, being led by

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reviews, a game, being led by doctors, will look at how to make

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doctors, will look at how to make doctors, will look at how to make

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doctors, will look at how to make this patient lead. It is good news

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for patients. for patients.

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for patients. Is there a solution/quiz-mac and

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Is there a solution/quiz-mac and Is there a solution/quiz-mac and

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Is there a solution/quiz-mac and thinking more widely, is there a way

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thinking more widely, is there a way thinking more widely, is there a way

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to make this into a federation? to make this into a federation?

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to make this into a federation? to make this into a federation?

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I think my colleagues have done an I think my colleagues have done an

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I think my colleagues have done an excellent job fighting for people in

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Redditch... Redditch...

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Redditch... But they have to travel.

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But they have to travel. But they have to travel.

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But they have to travel. But they have to travel.

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I need to focus on my area. For my I need to focus on my area. For my

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constituents, focusing some clinics constituents, focusing some clinics

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constituents, focusing some clinics in Worcestershire Royal will be

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better. better.

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better. better.

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A few years ago, it would have been A few years ago, it would have been

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A few years ago, it would have been A few years ago, it would have been

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toxic for any MP to countenance the toxic for any MP to countenance the

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toxic for any MP to countenance the idea of people travelling from their

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idea of people travelling from their area to another hospital.

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area to another hospital. area to another hospital.

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area to another hospital. We would like to see that no units

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We would like to see that no units We would like to see that no units

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would ever be transferred. I think would ever be transferred. I think

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would ever be transferred. I think the government was naive in saying

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the government was naive in saying the government was naive in saying

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before the election that nothing before the election that nothing

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before the election that nothing before the election that nothing

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would close, and that makes it more would close, and that makes it more

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would close, and that makes it more difficult now, because it looks like

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difficult now, because it looks like difficult now, because it looks like

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they are making promises they cannot they are making promises they cannot

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they are making promises they cannot keep. Sometimes we organisation is

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keep. Sometimes we organisation is keep. Sometimes we organisation is

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necessary and will improve patient necessary and will improve patient

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necessary and will improve patient necessary and will improve patient

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care, but I think if it is driven care, but I think if it is driven

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care, but I think if it is driven care, but I think if it is driven

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purely by saving money, that is when purely by saving money, that is when

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purely by saving money, that is when patients say, is this about patient

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patients say, is this about patient patients say, is this about patient

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patients say, is this about patient care? It has got to be about patient

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care? It has got to be about patient care? It has got to be about patient

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care? It has got to be about patient care. If it is just about saving

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care. If it is just about saving care. If it is just about saving

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money, patients will lose out. money, patients will lose out.

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money, patients will lose out. money, patients will lose out.

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Are we not starting to see the Are we not starting to see the

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Are we not starting to see the results of what happened under your

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results of what happened under your results of what happened under your

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administration? One of the problems administration? One of the problems

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administration? One of the problems in Herefordshire is a �60 million

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in Herefordshire is a �60 million in Herefordshire is a �60 million

:47:16.:47:19.

debt. That came from your government.

:47:19.:47:20.

government. government.

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These hospitals are running into These hospitals are running into

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These hospitals are running into financial trouble and I think that

:47:27.:47:28.

financial trouble and I think that financial trouble and I think that

:47:28.:47:28.

financial trouble and I think that PFI projects helped us to renew the

:47:28.:47:29.

PFI projects helped us to renew the PFI projects helped us to renew the

:47:29.:47:30.

PFI projects helped us to renew the estate. When we came into office in

:47:30.:47:32.

estate. When we came into office in estate. When we came into office in

:47:32.:47:33.

1997, most of the hospitals came 1997, most of the hospitals came

:47:33.:47:33.

1997, most of the hospitals came from before the NHS was even

:47:34.:47:35.

from before the NHS was even from before the NHS was even

:47:36.:47:36.

founded. I think it was a founded. I think it was a

:47:36.:47:43.

much-needed programme of modernisation.

:47:43.:47:44.

modernisation. modernisation.

:47:44.:47:44.

modernisation. The other thing that is emerging is

:47:44.:47:45.

The other thing that is emerging is The other thing that is emerging is

:47:45.:47:46.

that people are really concerned that people are really concerned

:47:46.:47:46.

that people are really concerned about travel times. Something like a

:47:47.:47:47.

about travel times. Something like a about travel times. Something like a

:47:47.:47:49.

stroke or a cardiac arrest, the stroke or a cardiac arrest, the

:47:49.:47:50.

stroke or a cardiac arrest, the stroke or a cardiac arrest, the

:47:50.:47:55.

ambulance service has to be up to the mark.

:47:55.:47:55.

the mark. the mark.

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the mark. If one of my constituents is on the

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If one of my constituents is on the If one of my constituents is on the

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If one of my constituents is on the M42 South and gets into trouble, at

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M42 South and gets into trouble, at M42 South and gets into trouble, at

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the moment, they would probably be the moment, they would probably be

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the moment, they would probably be transferred to Birmingham. I think

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transferred to Birmingham. I think transferred to Birmingham. I think

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transferred to Birmingham. I think you need that rapid response I think

:48:10.:48:10.

you need that rapid response I think you need that rapid response I think

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you need that rapid response I think it is very, very important to study.

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it is very, very important to study. it is very, very important to study.

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it is very, very important to study. At a time of radical reform under

:48:18.:48:19.

At a time of radical reform under At a time of radical reform under

:48:19.:48:20.

your government, there is a real your government, there is a real

:48:20.:48:21.

your government, there is a real crisis of confidence both in the

:48:21.:48:22.

crisis of confidence both in the crisis of confidence both in the

:48:22.:48:22.

health service and with the public health service and with the public

:48:22.:48:23.

health service and with the public health service and with the public

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health service and with the public to use it. Do you think it will be

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rebuilt? rebuilt?

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rebuilt? rebuilt?

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I think that by giving power to the I think that by giving power to the

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I think that by giving power to the doctors, who will focus on quality,

:48:35.:48:35.

doctors, who will focus on quality, doctors, who will focus on quality,

:48:35.:48:36.

doctors, who will focus on quality, that is the way we will be build

:48:36.:48:38.

that is the way we will be build trust for patients.

:48:38.:48:42.

Confidence? Confidence?

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Confidence? Confidence?

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It is one of our most cherished It is one of our most cherished

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It is one of our most cherished institutions and I think the public

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institutions and I think the public institutions and I think the public

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institutions and I think the public have confidence in it. We must not

:48:51.:48:52.

have confidence in it. We must not have confidence in it. We must not

:48:52.:48:53.

damage that in the future. damage that in the future.

:48:53.:48:59.

damage that in the future. damage that in the future.

:48:59.:49:00.

So, to the big question: Is your So, to the big question: Is your

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So, to the big question: Is your dustbin emptied every week? The

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dustbin emptied every week? The dustbin emptied every week? The

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government says that 1 million homes government says that 1 million homes

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government says that 1 million homes across the region are about to

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across the region are about to across the region are about to

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benefit from guaranteed weekly bin benefit from guaranteed weekly bin

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benefit from guaranteed weekly bin collections. Money from this scheme

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collections. Money from this scheme collections. Money from this scheme

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collections. Money from this scheme will be rolled out next month. Our

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will be rolled out next month. Our political Reporter reports.

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political Reporter reports. political Reporter reports.

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Councils are responsible from all Councils are responsible from all

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Councils are responsible from all kinds of things, from social

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kinds of things, from social kinds of things, from social

:49:26.:49:26.

kinds of things, from social services to art. But there are very

:49:26.:49:27.

services to art. But there are very services to art. But there are very

:49:27.:49:28.

few things that affect absolutely few things that affect absolutely

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few things that affect absolutely everyone in the week rubbish does.

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everyone in the week rubbish does. everyone in the week rubbish does.

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With the increase in recycling, With the increase in recycling,

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With the increase in recycling, nearly half of English councils have

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nearly half of English councils have moved to fortnightly bin

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moved to fortnightly bin collections. The government is

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collections. The government is collections. The government is

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convinced we do not like this. convinced we do not like this.

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convinced we do not like this. convinced we do not like this.

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I think it is vital that local I think it is vital that local

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I think it is vital that local authorities continue to do weekly

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authorities continue to do weekly authorities continue to do weekly

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authorities continue to do weekly bin collections and I think it is

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bin collections and I think it is unacceptable for central government

:49:53.:49:54.

unacceptable for central government unacceptable for central government

:49:54.:49:54.

to do anything but support local to do anything but support local

:49:55.:49:59.

authorities in doing that. authorities in doing that.

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authorities in doing that. It is important. Otherwise, it will

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It is important. Otherwise, it will just pile up.

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just pile up. just pile up.

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Eric Pickles, the local government Eric Pickles, the local government

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secretary, please grassroots secretary, please grassroots

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secretary, please grassroots Conservatives by making �250 million

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Conservatives by making �250 million Conservatives by making �250 million

:50:13.:50:18.

available to counsel to guarantee weekly collections.

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weekly collections. weekly collections.

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This means that we can continue This means that we can continue

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This means that we can continue weekly bin collections across the

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weekly bin collections across the weekly bin collections across the

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weekly bin collections across the area for five years. We might not

:50:27.:50:27.

area for five years. We might not area for five years. We might not

:50:27.:50:31.

area for five years. We might not have been able to do that otherwise.

:50:31.:50:32.

have been able to do that otherwise. have been able to do that otherwise.

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Over the next five years, seven Over the next five years, seven

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Over the next five years, seven Midlands authorities will get a

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Midlands authorities will get a Midlands authorities will get a

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share of �54 million, ensuring share of �54 million, ensuring

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share of �54 million, ensuring weekly collections for 1 million

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weekly collections for 1 million weekly collections for 1 million

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weekly collections for 1 million homes. But this is not just about

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homes. But this is not just about homes. But this is not just about

:50:42.:50:44.

black bags. Here at this recycling black bags. Here at this recycling

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black bags. Here at this recycling centre, the process about 70,000

:50:45.:50:46.

centre, the process about 70,000 centre, the process about 70,000

:50:46.:50:50.

tonnes of waste every year. And tonnes of waste every year. And

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tonnes of waste every year. And Malvern District Council will be

:50:51.:50:52.

Malvern District Council will be Malvern District Council will be

:50:52.:50:53.

Malvern District Council will be using the share of the money to

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using the share of the money to maintain collections and introduce

:50:55.:50:58.

glass recycling. glass recycling.

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glass recycling. Recycling rates are down, so by

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Recycling rates are down, so by Recycling rates are down, so by

:51:06.:51:07.

changing the service and making it changing the service and making it

:51:07.:51:08.

changing the service and making it changing the service and making it

:51:08.:51:08.

easier, we should be able to recycle easier, we should be able to recycle

:51:08.:51:15.

easier, we should be able to recycle more than we do just now.

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more than we do just now. more than we do just now.

:51:16.:51:17.

more than we do just now. Some people might argue that you do

:51:17.:51:18.

Some people might argue that you do Some people might argue that you do

:51:18.:51:18.

more to increase recycling by more to increase recycling by

:51:18.:51:19.

more to increase recycling by getting rid of weekly bin

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getting rid of weekly bin collections because then people

:51:20.:51:20.

collections because then people collections because then people

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would have to recycle more. would have to recycle more.

:51:22.:51:23.

would have to recycle more. The dirty waste system is really

:51:23.:51:25.

The dirty waste system is really The dirty waste system is really

:51:25.:51:26.

highly valued here and we would highly valued here and we would

:51:26.:51:28.

highly valued here and we would rather have it in commitment. That

:51:28.:51:29.

rather have it in commitment. That rather have it in commitment. That

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is what we're trying to recycling easier.

:51:36.:51:36.

easier. easier.

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easier. The changes will come in April. Six

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The changes will come in April. Six The changes will come in April. Six

:51:38.:51:39.

of the seven councils receiving the of the seven councils receiving the

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money were already collecting money were already collecting

:51:42.:51:42.

money were already collecting money were already collecting

:51:43.:51:44.

weekly. With tax is set to double on weekly. With tax is set to double on

:51:44.:51:47.

weekly. With tax is set to double on landfill in the next decade, some

:51:47.:51:48.

landfill in the next decade, some landfill in the next decade, some

:51:48.:51:50.

would argue that recycling should be the priority.

:51:50.:51:54.

the priority. the priority.

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My latest blog has more information My latest blog has more information

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My latest blog has more information My latest blog has more information

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on this. We are also joined you on this. We are also joined you

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on this. We are also joined you today by the green party councillor

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today by the green party councillor today by the green party councillor

:52:06.:52:07.

today by the green party councillor on Dudley Council. He were, a golden

:52:07.:52:08.

on Dudley Council. He were, a golden on Dudley Council. He were, a golden

:52:08.:52:08.

on Dudley Council. He were, a golden opportunity to say thank you for the

:52:08.:52:13.

scheme. scheme.

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scheme. scheme.

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I would like to say thank you very I would like to say thank you very

:52:14.:52:15.

I would like to say thank you very much government for not cutting our

:52:15.:52:17.

much government for not cutting our much government for not cutting our

:52:17.:52:18.

much government for not cutting our grand. It is great to have an extra

:52:18.:52:19.

grand. It is great to have an extra grand. It is great to have an extra

:52:19.:52:20.

grand. It is great to have an extra �1.8 million. But it is really about

:52:20.:52:24.

�1.8 million. But it is really about �1.8 million. But it is really about

:52:24.:52:25.

priorities. Is weekly bin collection priorities. Is weekly bin collection

:52:25.:52:29.

rather than fortnightly bin rather than fortnightly bin

:52:29.:52:29.

rather than fortnightly bin collection a higher priority than

:52:29.:52:30.

collection a higher priority than collection a higher priority than

:52:30.:52:31.

collection a higher priority than the services to young people and old

:52:31.:52:33.

the services to young people and old the services to young people and old

:52:33.:52:33.

people alike? Why is central people alike? Why is central

:52:33.:52:34.

people alike? Why is central government interfering in this level

:52:34.:52:41.

government interfering in this level of local activity?

:52:41.:52:42.

of local activity? of local activity?

:52:42.:52:43.

of local activity? There is a clear message in the film

:52:43.:52:44.

There is a clear message in the film There is a clear message in the film

:52:44.:52:45.

there that people do value weekly there that people do value weekly

:52:45.:52:46.

there that people do value weekly bin collections and that perhaps the

:52:46.:52:47.

bin collections and that perhaps the bin collections and that perhaps the

:52:47.:52:47.

bin collections and that perhaps the government is closer to the green of

:52:47.:52:51.

government is closer to the green of opinion than you are.

:52:51.:52:51.

opinion than you are. opinion than you are.

:52:52.:52:56.

It is certainly true that most It is certainly true that most

:52:56.:52:57.

It is certainly true that most people who have not experienced

:52:57.:53:00.

people who have not experienced fortnightly collections valued the

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fortnightly collections valued the fortnightly collections valued the

:53:03.:53:04.

weekly ones. Kitchen waste need weekly ones. Kitchen waste need

:53:04.:53:05.

weekly ones. Kitchen waste need special handling. In most places

:53:05.:53:09.

special handling. In most places special handling. In most places

:53:09.:53:10.

where you have weekly or fortnightly where you have weekly or fortnightly

:53:10.:53:11.

where you have weekly or fortnightly bin collections and then recycling

:53:11.:53:15.

bin collections and then recycling bin collections and then recycling

:53:15.:53:15.

actually produce more recycling and actually produce more recycling and

:53:15.:53:20.

actually produce more recycling and actually produce more recycling and

:53:20.:53:21.

it reduces the amount of waste. Nine it reduces the amount of waste. Nine

:53:21.:53:22.

it reduces the amount of waste. Nine of the ten top performing local

:53:22.:53:22.

of the ten top performing local authorities in recycling operate

:53:22.:53:29.

weekly scheme. weekly scheme.

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weekly scheme. The other thing below the headline

:53:30.:53:30.

The other thing below the headline The other thing below the headline

:53:30.:53:31.

is that it gives authorities like is that it gives authorities like

:53:31.:53:32.

Marlborough district Council the Marlborough district Council the

:53:32.:53:33.

Marlborough district Council the chance to bid for improved recycling

:53:33.:53:34.

chance to bid for improved recycling chance to bid for improved recycling

:53:34.:53:40.

services. You must welcome that. services. You must welcome that.

:53:40.:53:41.

services. You must welcome that. Of course, the extra money is

:53:41.:53:42.

Of course, the extra money is Of course, the extra money is

:53:42.:53:42.

Of course, the extra money is useful, but it should not be for

:53:42.:53:45.

useful, but it should not be for useful, but it should not be for

:53:45.:53:46.

central government to tell local central government to tell local

:53:46.:53:47.

central government to tell local people how to spend their council

:53:47.:53:52.

tax money. tax money.

:53:52.:53:52.

tax money. Harriet, is at the business of

:53:52.:53:56.

central government? central government?

:53:56.:54:01.

central government? The last government that we had

:54:01.:54:02.

The last government that we had The last government that we had

:54:02.:54:02.

doubled your council tax. What we're doubled your council tax. What we're

:54:02.:54:03.

doubled your council tax. What we're doubled your council tax. What we're

:54:03.:54:07.

trying to do is keep council tax trying to do is keep council tax

:54:07.:54:08.

trying to do is keep council tax under control but also make sure

:54:08.:54:08.

under control but also make sure under control but also make sure

:54:08.:54:12.

that we keep the weekly bin collection.

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collection. collection.

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collection. It is a positive move, is it not?

:54:18.:54:19.

It is a positive move, is it not? It is a positive move, is it not?

:54:19.:54:20.

The overall picture for local The overall picture for local

:54:20.:54:20.

The overall picture for local government in Wolverhampton, where I

:54:20.:54:24.

government in Wolverhampton, where I government in Wolverhampton, where I

:54:24.:54:25.

government in Wolverhampton, where I represent, is huge cuts. But on this

:54:25.:54:25.

represent, is huge cuts. But on this represent, is huge cuts. But on this

:54:25.:54:29.

specific point about bin collection, specific point about bin collection,

:54:29.:54:30.

specific point about bin collection, I think that weekly bin collections

:54:30.:54:31.

I think that weekly bin collections I think that weekly bin collections

:54:31.:54:37.

are popular and you are absolutely are popular and you are absolutely

:54:37.:54:38.

are popular and you are absolutely are popular and you are absolutely

:54:38.:54:38.

right to stress that the other part right to stress that the other part

:54:38.:54:39.

right to stress that the other part right to stress that the other part

:54:39.:54:39.

of this is recycling. I am very of this is recycling. I am very

:54:40.:54:40.

of this is recycling. I am very surprised to hear your report that

:54:40.:54:42.

surprised to hear your report that surprised to hear your report that

:54:42.:54:43.

we still have local authorities to we still have local authorities to

:54:43.:54:47.

we still have local authorities to we still have local authorities to

:54:47.:54:48.

are still to take glass. We have are still to take glass. We have

:54:48.:54:49.

are still to take glass. We have been able to recycle glass and

:54:49.:54:49.

been able to recycle glass and been able to recycle glass and

:54:50.:54:52.

cardboard and plastic for years. I cardboard and plastic for years. I

:54:52.:54:52.

cardboard and plastic for years. I think some councils have some

:54:52.:54:59.

think some councils have some catching up to do.

:54:59.:55:00.

catching up to do. catching up to do.

:55:00.:55:01.

Is there not a fundamental point Is there not a fundamental point

:55:01.:55:02.

Is there not a fundamental point Is there not a fundamental point

:55:02.:55:02.

about local life you? It is very about local life you? It is very

:55:02.:55:06.

about local life you? It is very about local life you? It is very

:55:06.:55:07.

top-down to say we will restrict the top-down to say we will restrict the

:55:07.:55:07.

top-down to say we will restrict the top-down to say we will restrict the

:55:08.:55:08.

money that you have for some things, money that you have for some things,

:55:08.:55:13.

money that you have for some things, but in these very rigid and

:55:13.:55:14.

but in these very rigid and but in these very rigid and

:55:14.:55:15.

structured ways, we will give you structured ways, we will give you

:55:15.:55:17.

the money back. the money back.

:55:17.:55:22.

the money back. the money back.

:55:22.:55:22.

It must be done locally. There are It must be done locally. There are

:55:22.:55:23.

It must be done locally. There are two councils in my constituency and

:55:23.:55:26.

two councils in my constituency and two councils in my constituency and

:55:26.:55:26.

they take different approaches. It they take different approaches. It

:55:26.:55:27.

they take different approaches. It they take different approaches. It

:55:27.:55:32.

has taken time for them to be able has taken time for them to be able

:55:32.:55:33.

has taken time for them to be able to do campsite glass recycling for

:55:33.:55:34.

to do campsite glass recycling for to do campsite glass recycling for

:55:34.:55:35.

various reasons. I think that is various reasons. I think that is

:55:35.:55:35.

various reasons. I think that is various reasons. I think that is

:55:35.:55:36.

what people want to be able to do. what people want to be able to do.

:55:36.:55:40.

Let's do it voluntarily. Let's do it voluntarily.

:55:40.:55:41.

Let's do it voluntarily. Let's do it voluntarily.

:55:41.:55:43.

Before I bring you back in to talk Before I bring you back in to talk

:55:43.:55:44.

Before I bring you back in to talk Before I bring you back in to talk

:55:44.:55:47.

about what you are for and against, about what you are for and against,

:55:47.:55:48.

about what you are for and against, about what you are for and against,

:55:48.:55:49.

I would like to touch on council I would like to touch on council

:55:49.:55:50.

I would like to touch on council tax. Around Christmas time, we had

:55:50.:55:54.

tax. Around Christmas time, we had tax. Around Christmas time, we had

:55:54.:55:54.

one Labour authority after another one Labour authority after another

:55:54.:55:55.

one Labour authority after another talking about raising it and now

:55:55.:55:56.

talking about raising it and now talking about raising it and now

:55:56.:55:59.

talking about raising it and now they have now fallen into line. They

:55:59.:56:00.

they have now fallen into line. They they have now fallen into line. They

:56:00.:56:01.

have all frozen just like Eric have all frozen just like Eric

:56:01.:56:06.

Pickles wanted them to. Pickles wanted them to.

:56:06.:56:07.

Pickles wanted them to. Pickles wanted them to.

:56:07.:56:08.

The truth that is in a system where, The truth that is in a system where,

:56:08.:56:08.

The truth that is in a system where, The truth that is in a system where,

:56:08.:56:09.

The truth that is in a system where, if you think of this as a piece of

:56:09.:56:12.

if you think of this as a piece of if you think of this as a piece of

:56:12.:56:12.

if you think of this as a piece of pie, 80% of this is controlled by

:56:12.:56:14.

pie, 80% of this is controlled by pie, 80% of this is controlled by

:56:14.:56:17.

central government. And putting it central government. And putting it

:56:18.:56:20.

central government. And putting it central government. And putting it

:56:20.:56:21.

up I1 or 2% does not really make up I1 or 2% does not really make

:56:21.:56:23.

up I1 or 2% does not really make up I1 or 2% does not really make

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that much of a difference. We are that much of a difference. We are

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that much of a difference. We are having to make terrible difficult

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having to make terrible difficult decisions. Wolverhampton will lose

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decisions. Wolverhampton will lose decisions. Wolverhampton will lose

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�60 million over the next three years.

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years. years.

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Whereas, Harriet, the three councils Whereas, Harriet, the three councils

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Whereas, Harriet, the three councils Whereas, Harriet, the three councils

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in our area that are putting it up in our area that are putting it up

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in our area that are putting it up are conservative ones and one of

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are conservative ones and one of are conservative ones and one of

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:56:51.:56:52.

them, Mulder and, just under 2%. Hopefully due?

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Hopefully due? Hopefully due?

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Hopefully due? What I will say is that from this

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What I will say is that from this What I will say is that from this

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What I will say is that from this year, you will be able to pay over

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year, you will be able to pay over year, you will be able to pay over

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12 months rather than ten months. 12 months rather than ten months.

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12 months rather than ten months. 12 months rather than ten months.

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For family budgets, it is easier to For family budgets, it is easier to

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For family budgets, it is easier to budget over a 12 month cycle.

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budget over a 12 month cycle. budget over a 12 month cycle.

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budget over a 12 month cycle. I promised you the final word. What

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I promised you the final word. What is your fundamental solution,

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is your fundamental solution, environmentally, to these very

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environmentally, to these very expensive waste problems?

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expensive waste problems? Easily, environmentally, we must

:57:17.:57:18.

Easily, environmentally, we must Easily, environmentally, we must

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reduce the waste we are producing. reduce the waste we are producing.

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reduce the waste we are producing. One of the things that increases

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One of the things that increases One of the things that increases

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recycling and reduces waste is by recycling and reduces waste is by

:57:27.:57:28.

having alternating bin collections having alternating bin collections

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having alternating bin collections having alternating bin collections

:57:30.:57:30.

with waste and recycling. We need to with waste and recycling. We need to

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with waste and recycling. We need to stop the packaging that we sell

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things on. things on.

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things on. things on.

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Thank you. And so to our regular Thank you. And so to our regular

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Thank you. And so to our regular Thank you. And so to our regular

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roundup of the political week in the roundup of the political week in the

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roundup of the political week in the roundup of the political week in the

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Midlands in 60 seconds. Here is our Midlands in 60 seconds. Here is our

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Midlands in 60 seconds. Here is our reporter. First up, planes: Luggage

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reporter. First up, planes: Luggage reporter. First up, planes: Luggage

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at Birmingham airport may have been at Birmingham airport may have been

:57:56.:57:56.

at Birmingham airport may have been searched illegally. Records were not

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searched illegally. Records were not searched illegally. Records were not

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kept when Border officials searched bags.

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bags. Next, trains. Transport Secretary

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Next, trains. Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin checked on

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Patrick McLoughlin checked on Patrick McLoughlin checked on

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building work at Birmingham's New Street Station.

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Street Station. Street Station.

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Now, automobiles. The LibDem leader Now, automobiles. The LibDem leader

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Now, automobiles. The LibDem leader and his deputy were at Dayton's

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and his deputy were at Dayton's Heritage Motor Centre.

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Heritage Motor Centre. Heritage Motor Centre.

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Elsewhere in the region, MPs Elsewhere in the region, MPs

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Elsewhere in the region, MPs announced a crackdown on is richer

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announced a crackdown on is richer announced a crackdown on is richer

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ceramics that are actually made overseas.

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overseas. overseas.

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And finally, no doubting the And finally, no doubting the

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And finally, no doubting the Parliamentary question of the day on

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Parliamentary question of the day on Parliamentary question of the day on

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Monday after the Chancellor was Monday after the Chancellor was

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Monday after the Chancellor was forced to abandon his claims about

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forced to abandon his claims about our credit rating.

:58:43.:58:44.

our credit rating. our credit rating.

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Does the Chancellor agree with Does the Chancellor agree with

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Does the Chancellor agree with Does the Chancellor agree with

:58:48.:58:49.

himself that for the UK to lose its himself that for the UK to lose its

:58:49.:58:49.

himself that for the UK to lose its credit rating would be 80 million

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credit rating would be 80 million credit rating would be 80 million

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Asian? -- ashy million Asian. Asian? -- ashy million Asian.

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Asian? -- ashy million Asian. Asian? -- ashy million Asian.

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Pat, he scored a hat there. Why does Pat, he scored a hat there. Why does

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Pat, he scored a hat there. Why does this matter to your constituents in

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Wolverhampton? Wolverhampton?

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Wolverhampton? It matters politically because the

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It matters politically because the It matters politically because the

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government chose this as their own government chose this as their own

:59:18.:59:19.

government chose this as their own government chose this as their own

:59:19.:59:21.

government chose this as their own test. I think to make it the test of

:59:21.:59:22.

test. I think to make it the test of government and economic competence

:59:22.:59:27.

government and economic competence government and economic competence

:59:27.:59:28.

was a mistake. It matters was a mistake. It matters

:59:28.:59:29.

economically because it comes economically because it comes

:59:29.:59:32.

economically because it comes together with other things. The Bank

:59:32.:59:33.

together with other things. The Bank together with other things. The Bank

:59:33.:59:38.

of England this week talked about of England this week talked about

:59:38.:59:38.

of England this week talked about negative interest rates and the

:59:38.:59:39.

negative interest rates and the negative interest rates and the

:59:39.:59:40.

possibility of having to pay the possibility of having to pay the

:59:40.:59:41.

possibility of having to pay the possibility of having to pay the

:59:41.:59:42.

central bank. We have had the pound central bank. We have had the pound

:59:42.:59:43.

central bank. We have had the pound dropping in value. All of these

:59:43.:59:44.

dropping in value. All of these dropping in value. All of these

:59:44.:59:46.

things are coming together with a things are coming together with a

:59:46.:59:47.

things are coming together with a things are coming together with a

:59:47.:59:47.

verdict that the economy is in even verdict that the economy is in even

:59:47.:59:51.

verdict that the economy is in even weaker shape than we thought.

:59:51.:59:51.

weaker shape than we thought. weaker shape than we thought.

:59:51.:59:52.

weaker shape than we thought. weaker shape than we thought.

:59:52.:59:53.

It was the be all and end all for It was the be all and end all for

:59:53.:59:59.

It was the be all and end all for George Osborne and it has backfired.

:59:59.:00:00.

George Osborne and it has backfired. George Osborne and it has backfired.

:00:00.:00:01.

George Osborne and it has backfired. I think what the credit agency is

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I think what the credit agency is I think what the credit agency is

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I think what the credit agency is saying is that it is important to

:00:02.:00:03.

saying is that it is important to saying is that it is important to

:00:03.:00:04.

get your credit under control. You get your credit under control. You

:00:04.:00:05.

get your credit under control. You get your credit under control. You

:00:05.:00:09.

do not want to be passing on those do not want to be passing on those

:00:09.:00:09.

do not want to be passing on those debts to your children and your

:00:09.:00:10.

debts to your children and your debts to your children and your

:00:10.:00:11.

grandchildren. So it is important to grandchildren. So it is important to

:00:11.:00:12.

grandchildren. So it is important to take the tough spending decisions

:00:12.:00:13.

take the tough spending decisions take the tough spending decisions

:00:13.:00:14.

take the tough spending decisions that I do not see Pat's party

:00:14.:00:16.

taking. taking.

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taking. taking.

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taking. Don't you need a bit of a boost, get

:00:18.:00:23.

tax up? tax up?

:00:23.:00:24.

tax up? tax up?

:00:24.:00:24.

You also need to tackle the spending You also need to tackle the spending

:00:24.:00:26.

You also need to tackle the spending You also need to tackle the spending

:00:26.:00:27.

side of the equation. We must take side of the equation. We must take

:00:27.:00:29.

side of the equation. We must take difficult decisions as a country. We

:00:29.:00:30.

difficult decisions as a country. We difficult decisions as a country. We

:00:30.:00:32.

cannot pass them on to future generations.

:00:32.:00:37.

Final word? Final word?

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Final word? Final word?

:00:38.:00:39.

What Harriet is saying is that the What Harriet is saying is that the

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What Harriet is saying is that the strategy that has not worked for

:00:42.:00:43.

strategy that has not worked for strategy that has not worked for

:00:43.:00:44.

three years, that has not produced three years, that has not produced

:00:44.:00:45.

three years, that has not produced growth, is something that they will

:00:45.:00:46.

growth, is something that they will growth, is something that they will

:00:46.:00:50.

continue with. The economy needs a different strategy.

:00:50.:00:51.

different strategy. different strategy.

:00:51.:00:52.

different strategy. This week will be another big one

:00:52.:00:53.

This week will be another big one This week will be another big one

:00:53.:00:57.

for the hospital service here. We for the hospital service here. We

:00:57.:00:58.

for the hospital service here. We have been considering the position

:00:58.:00:58.

have been considering the position have been considering the position

:00:58.:00:59.

have been considering the position of the NHS Chief Executive Sir David

:00:59.:01:01.

of the NHS Chief Executive Sir David of the NHS Chief Executive Sir David

:01:01.:01:02.

Nicholls. He will be questioned by Nicholls. He will be questioned by

:01:02.:01:02.

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