18/03/2012 Sunday Politics West


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In the west: Bristol goes bus-lane- In the west: Bristol goes bus-lane-

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tastic - as its multi-million pound showcase routes are officially

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1729 seconds

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launched. But guess what? Fares The Bass beers are going up. Have

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politicians got it seriously wrong when it comes to public transport?

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That is coming up a little later but with me today are two West

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Country MPs. We have the Conservative MP for Bradley Stoke.

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He was an army reservist who served in Afghanistan and the Liberal

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Democrat MP for Bristol West to his thinking of running for mayor.

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Stephen, firstly you were the first openly gay Liberal Democrat MP. The

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Government is consulting now on the marriage, presumably you are for

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that. Absolutely. It is an issue of equality. It's a same-sex couple

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want to have such a union they should be able to call it a civil

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marriage. It should not be any less valued or recognised by society

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than an opposite sex couple. At the moment you have several partnership

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for gay couples and civil marriage for straight couples. It should be

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the same for both. Why are people wanting to take on the Church over

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this? I do not think they do want to take on the church. I agree as

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bad as the quality of respect and treating marriages between same-sex

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people and a man and a woman the same. It was outlawed in the

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military for many years. Indeed, that is progress. OK, we will see

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how the consultation goes. Now, a big leader for a big city was the

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mantra this week as a campaign kicked off for an elected mayor for

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Bristol. Anyone getting the job would not get top of the city.

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Large parts of it live with in other council areas such as South

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Gloucestershire which has attracted significant criticism. They were

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preaching to the converted. Ministers from this Government and

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the past speaking of the good points for an elected mayor. One

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nagging doubt kept creeping up. have been a clear advocate of a

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large region and I accept that that is not going to happen. Ideally we

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would like a Metro mayor, beyond the boundaries of the city council

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but all we have got on offer now is at a city near. From here you can

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see the modern metropolis but it is not all Bristol. Over one quarter

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of this are being area is not run by the city Council. The divisions

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dead back to when these were green fields. The situation at the

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airfield shows the bizarre nature of these boundaries. Airbus is one

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of the biggest employers, most of the airport is under South

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Gloucestershire and so the mayor would have little involvement in

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what goes on here. It is not just in economic matters that the

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political role would be restricted. These men freely acknowledge there

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are other limitations. referendum in May is about having a

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mayor for Bristol but in due course we might have a wider regional

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Mayor who would be best placed to deal with transport and policing

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issues which cross boundaries. mayor for Bristol would be a leader

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not just for the city but for the whole area. Around the world Riaz

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of cities are the focal point just for the boundaries of the central

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city but of the whole region. -- Nears of cities. But that is not

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what is on offer this time. I am joined by the director of the

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Bristol Chamber of Commerce. What is the business take on this? Would

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you be preparing to deal with a mayor or the system we have at the

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moment? The people of Bristol could elect a person every format for

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years whereby at the moment it is elected by a small group of

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councillors. In the past few years we have had five changes of

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leadership, there is so much instability in that. You have heard

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the risk of having someone you disagree with as mayor just for

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stability? That is true but I think the ability to elect a mayor or

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deselect at some point in the future being down to the people is

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much better than a small group. are you standing as a candidate?

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Reveal yourself! I am not ready to make that decision yet. The most

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important decision is whether we won't do have an elected mayor for

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the city or not. I will vote Yes in the referendum. I think the

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advantages of an elected mayor are not just uncertainty. We could fix

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the local Government into four- yearly cycles which I think would

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fix the uncertainty but having an ambassador for Bristol would be a

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fantastic. You are quoted as saying you are more than 50% in favour of

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having a mayor, is that an accurate quote? Yes, it is. It does not

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sound like you are bursting to get into the job? It is simply because

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I would be more emphatic of thinking it would make a big

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difference to the city if I knew what powers would come with the

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Mayor ship. The Government needs to be more open with the city about

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what powers would be given to an elected mayor. I have always been

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in favour of an elected mayor. A figurehead with a four-year mandate.

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It is the big four are that we have highlighted today. The city of

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Bristol is not what we all think it is to be. You represent Bradley

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Stoke in south Gloucestershire yet really it is within Greater Bristol

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saw how my D major deal with deep forks out in Bradley Stoke?

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mayor of Bristol would not deal with the faults in Bradley Stoke.

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That is a weakness? Not necessarily. The facts are that we have a local

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Government area that is the city and Council of Bristol and you

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elect a mayor to oversee that area. But if you want a transport system

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you have all the different councils. Local councils work together at the

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moment. I think for the purposes of clarity the city of Bristol does

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need an elected mayor. Are you concerned about where the

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boundaries of the city are? I have always been concerned. The west of

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Bristol area is huge, it is one million souls. It is one of the

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most celebrated cities in the country. It has such potential in

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terms of its growth. There is so much going on, the universities,

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big airport, baked sea port. But there is this fragmentation. -- Big

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Sea port. A lot of the councillors are not keen on this. The Liberal

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Democrat deputy leader has been seeing I do not think it is right

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to try to bribe the electorate of Bristol into voting for or a

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Government which seems to be the right system of governance. Let's

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see what the people of Bristol think. We have to wait for the

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result of the referendum. I think it is an odd statement to make.

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think there is a problem. I think he has got something in that people

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will be voting for a change without being absolutely sure what that

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change will be. What do you mean by that? The Government is clear that

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we want local Government to be reinvigorated in England. It has

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been emasculated by the last Government and the previous Tory

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Government. We want cities to be local drivers. We have the localism

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Act. In our last few seconds, if you stood and should you be elected,

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would you resign as an MP? No. That is one of the issues that need to

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be clarified. It is quite normal in other parts of the world for the

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city's Mayor to also be a Member of Parliament. In Bordeaux, Bristol's

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twin city the mayor is also the city MP and the foreign minister of

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France, he has they jobs. -- he has three jobs. In the last few months

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Bristol has spent millions of pounds on new bus routes. Cars are

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being squeezed off the roads and now companies who provide staff

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with a car parking space could be charged. We have come along way

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since these days. In the 60s our roads were less congested and fuel

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costs much less. This week the starting flag was raised for and

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you either of buses in the Bristol area. The Government gave more than

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�40 million for the new showcase bus routes to try to persuade

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commuters to leave their cars at home. Next month the cost of

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filling them up will rise as the Government cuts the fuel rebate bus

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companies get. The cost will be passed on to passengers. We are

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seeing a fuel cuts rise of 27 %, we have to be able to recover some of

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that through the prices we charge. We inherited a difficult economic

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situation from the previous administration but we gave 18

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months' notice of the fuel rebate being reduced. That was a very long

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period. At the time the bus operators said the notice time was

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sufficient. They can only hope that commuters will not be put off by

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the prices. Meanwhile, pressure mounts on the Chancellor ahead of

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next week's budget to lower the tax on petrol. Let's stop bus lanes.

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The taxpayer has paid for these routes and we are spending millions

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hiding parts of it off into bus lanes and giving the bus companies

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a virtual monopoly of them went the bus companies have to put their

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prices up. Bus lanes do make a big difference to moving people

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efficiently around the city. We have had lots of bus measures put

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in place over the last 20 years here which has improved the quality,

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speed and reliability of bus travel. Subsidising the bus companies by

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giving them part of our roads than seeing other road users cannot have

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them, but then you do not subsidise the cost of the ticket? Surely it

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people are stuck in traffic and see a bus or whizzing past on the bus

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lane they are going to be incentivise to get the bus next

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time. Everybody says they want better public transport and a real

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alternative. That is great in an ideal world but tickets are usually

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cheap in places like France. Fears here are high. If I had a tax

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contribution for every time someone has said to me why can we not have

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European standards in British cities, well, they do tax people

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more in many of these countries. It is afraid of. From a business point

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of view, charging firms that they provide staff with somewhere to put

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their cars, is that something you would favour? It is not. We want

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the city council to look at all the alternatives. We know they are

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looking at a supplementary business rate but we feel there has to be a

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way of spreading that rowed much further. -- spreading that load.

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What They are trying to do is close a funding gap. Beer is something

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like �20 million of a shortfall which has to be made up. -- there

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is something like. The central part is the ever increasing cost of fuel.

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Should the Government be addressing that? You have to put it in the

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context of our economic situation overall. My understanding is that

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every penny we take-off the litre of fuel has to come somewhere.

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is pretty tough if you are filling up your family car and it costs

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�100. Which I do. We can only artificially hold down the price of

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fuel for so long in order to please the boaters. In Our lifetime the

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price of petrol has only gone in one direction and only will call in

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one direction. Throughout the country how much of it is tax?

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vast majority. The underlying price is going up and up. What effect is

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this having on business? It is interesting. People seem to be

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voting with their feet. We have seen the biggest rise on the

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southern beech line for commuters. People are deciding that they

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cannot afford to run their cars any more so they will take the next

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alternative which Israel. It is a further squeeze on people's pockets,

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isn't it? -- the alternative which is real. They can walk or ride or

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whatever. -- rail. In celebration of the Cheltenham Festival let's

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take a canter through our politics in 60 seconds. The North Somerset

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MP Liam Fox has been ordered to pay �3,000 and apologise for breaking

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parliamentary rules. The amount of food wasted by supermarkets is

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scandalous according to the SNP who has are urged shops to donate

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surplus food to charity. So much surplus food goes to waste that

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people would be duly grateful to get their hands on it. And this man

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who wants to lawfully end his life with the help of doctors will have

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his case heard in court. Life is hell for him and it is not going to

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get any better. The defunct Cotswold Water Park who's boss was

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jailed for fraud has an investigation and it is unlikely

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there will be any intervention in the plans to close libraries. That

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Was the Week That Was in just 60 seconds. The week ahead will be

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interesting politically because it is the Budget. What should the

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Chancellor do? He has a really tough job at the moment. He will

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have to continue to play down the deficit and have financial

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stability while raising the situation with jobs. Help for small

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businesses as well. What is the Liberal Democrat peer? Taxing that

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1%? I am glad we endorse that. We have to raise more people out of

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income tax altogether and have a tax cut for the vast majority. That

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is what the Liberal Democrats have brought to the budget negotiations.

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As for people at the top end, the 50 p rate, it would not be our

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priority now to drop that great. We want to see more work done on

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taxing wealth more effectively in this country. A mansion tax, a

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tycoon tax. It is always someone else paying tax that people want, I

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guess. The 50 pence rate, will that they or disappear? Well, I think at

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the moment it is a tough balancing act. I do not know at this stage.

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We will have to wait and see. about any of the other issues? Can

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he possibly kick-start the economy doing something now that he has not

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done before? I would like to see more help given to small businesses.

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What we have done on corporation tax as far as reducing 2% at the

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moment, perhaps more measures like that. We shall see before much

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