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Good morning. For those of you who stayed up late to watch the final | :00:34. | :00:39. | |
episode of The Bridge on BBC Four last night, all I can say is thank | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
you for joining us this early. Or as Saga from Malmo would say, "Tak". If | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
you're suffering withdrawal symptoms from all things Nordic, you have | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
come to the right place. We have got a powerful female politician, an | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
enigmatic right-winger pulling the strings and some retro-cool. No | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
exuberant knitwear - the studio's too hot - and, so far, no corpses | :01:01. | :01:05. | |
either. Joining me today for our review of | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
the Sunday newspapers, the Guardian's associate editor, Michael | :01:09. | :01:10. | |
White, and Benedicte Paviot, correspondent for the French | :01:11. | :01:13. | |
international news channel, France 24. | :01:14. | :01:19. | |
Pick up some of those papers this morning, and there is one man who | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
dominates above all. Michael Gove, the Education Secretary, is under | :01:24. | :01:26. | |
attack for firing a supportive Labour woman, Baroness Morgan, as | :01:27. | :01:28. | |
chair of the school inspectorate, and for his latest ideas about | :01:29. | :01:34. | |
school discipline. He is also one of the more outspokenly Eurosceptic | :01:35. | :01:37. | |
members of the Cabinet, so it is a good time to be talking to Mr Gove, | :01:38. | :01:42. | |
a friend of the prime minister, in a week when David Cameron has been | :01:43. | :01:44. | |
struggling over his all-important European policy. | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
Labour have had a controversial week, too, however. Ed Miliband's | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
radical reforms of his party's links with the unions could lose Labour ?4 | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
million a year, it is being said today. Others say it is a total | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
surrender to the union activists, who will take the party much further | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
to the left. Deputy leader Harriet Harman is here to deal with | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
accusations that her party is making it easier for the unions to control | :02:07. | :02:12. | |
Labour's policies. Since the dawn of cinema, Charles | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
Dickens' books have been fine fodder for film-makers. Later, I will be | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
talking to actor and director Ralph Fiennes, who has made a new film | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
about Dickens and his secret mistress. She is the mother of your | :02:24. | :02:32. | |
children. And for that, I shall always be grateful, but I do not | :02:33. | :02:34. | |
love her. And we have live music. Still | :02:35. | :02:38. | |
causing a commotion after all these years, Lloyd Cole is back with a new | :02:39. | :02:40. | |
album and a new band. album and a new band. | :02:41. | :02:49. | |
# I can't stop pushing you away, pushing you away. | :02:50. | :02:52. | |
First, over to Naga for the morning's news headlines. Good | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
morning. The Education Secretary Michael Gove is urging head teachers | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
in England to clamp down on bad behaviour in the classroom. He's | :03:00. | :03:02. | |
issued new guidelines encouraging schools to make use of | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
"old-fashioned" ways of punishing pupils including writing lines, | :03:06. | :03:07. | |
picking up litter and serving detentions at the weekend. | :03:08. | :03:20. | |
Maintaining discipline in the classroom is a challenge for schools | :03:21. | :03:23. | |
everywhere. We doubt it, teaching and learning can become difficult, | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
even impossible. Now, Michael Gove, in new guidance to English schools, | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
is telling teachers that tough, but proportionate punishments are | :03:36. | :03:38. | |
crucial to an effective education. He says that simply rewarding good | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
behaviour is not enough. Michael Gove wants teachers to make more use | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
of traditional punishments, like writing lines or making children | :03:48. | :03:50. | |
attend early-morning detention sessions, before school. He is also | :03:51. | :03:57. | |
talking about imposing community service-style punishments, like | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
bigging up litter or cleaning the treaty. The Education Secretary says | :04:02. | :04:04. | |
research shows that one in three secondary teachers don't feel | :04:05. | :04:10. | |
confident disciplining pupils, and that 700,000 children are in schools | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
where behaviour is lacking. The teaching unions are unconvinced. The | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
Association of teachers and lecturers has accused Mr Gove of | :04:21. | :04:22. | |
behaving bizarrely, pointing out that inspector has said behaviour is | :04:23. | :04:28. | |
rated good or better in 90% of schools, while the Headteachers' | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
union branded it as a PR exercise. Teachers are not getting any new | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
powers with this guidance, just encouragement from the Education | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
Secretary to make tougher use of the powers they already have. | :04:43. | :04:50. | |
The row over the removal of Lady Morgan, the chair of the schools | :04:51. | :04:53. | |
inspection service, Ofsted, has intensified. The Liberal Democrat | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
education minister, David Laws, has accused Michael Gove of making the | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
decision for political reasons. A source close to Mr Laws said he was | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
determined not to let Mr Gove undermine Ofsted's independence. | :05:03. | :05:05. | |
Downing Street has rejected claims by Lady Morgan - who's a Labour peer | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
- that it's trying to fill the top jobs on public bodies with | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
Conservative supporters. High tides and strong winds of | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
nearly 85 miles an hour have driven waves onto the seafront at | :05:18. | :05:19. | |
Aberystwyth, for the second time this year. Meanwhile, three severe | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
flood warnings - which means there is danger to life - are in place | :05:23. | :05:26. | |
along the River Severn in Gloucestershire. The Environment | :05:27. | :05:28. | |
Secretary Owen Paterson says "everything possible" is being done | :05:29. | :05:31. | |
to help those affected by flooding, with forecasters warning there's | :05:32. | :05:39. | |
more bad weather to come. Aberystwyth last night, once again | :05:40. | :05:42. | |
feeling the force of nature as gusts of up to 84 mph battered the Welsh | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
coastline. It is just a month since another storm hit this same | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
promenade on a deserted after hundreds of students living nearby | :05:53. | :05:55. | |
were moved. The latest warnings come after the wettest January on record | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
for piles of southern England . In the Midlands, south-west and | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
south-east, around 150 properties have been flooded. In Devon and | :06:05. | :06:07. | |
Somerset, the fire service has organised its biggest ever flood | :06:08. | :06:13. | |
training operation. We are moving in excess of 3 million litres an hour, | :06:14. | :06:16. | |
the equivalent of one Olympic swimming pool every hour. This is | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
the famous Severn bore, the result of high tides surging up the river. | :06:22. | :06:27. | |
Ridden by surfers yesterday, despite warnings of the dangers. More than | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
100 flood warnings are in place across England and Wales. Today | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
might provide a little respite, with rains and winds expected to ease, | :06:36. | :06:38. | |
but more bad weather is forecast in the coming days. | :06:39. | :06:41. | |
The head of the health watchdog the Care Quality Commission has made a | :06:42. | :06:44. | |
strong attack on the NHS in England, saying it'll go bust without radical | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
change. David Prior also said the organisation stigmatises those who | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
try to speak out. The Department of Health says it's trying to eradicate | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
poor care and supports openness. Voting in Thailand's general | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
election - boycotted by the opposition and blighted by protests | :07:01. | :07:03. | |
- is coming to an end. Anti-government protesters are | :07:04. | :07:05. | |
trying to disrupt the vote and continue their campaign to force | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
prime minister Shinawatra to resign. Yesterday, clashes between rival | :07:11. | :07:12. | |
demonstrators left several people injured. | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
That's all from me for now. I'll be back with the headlines just before | :07:18. | :07:24. | |
ten o'clock. Back to you, Andrew. Front-page headlines as usual, but | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
you have heard most of these stories just now. Michael Gove is being | :07:29. | :07:31. | |
attacked on the front of the Observer by the Liberal Democrats. | :07:32. | :07:34. | |
He is on the front page of the Independent on Sunday, being | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
attacked by the Liberal Democrats. There is the Sunday Telegraph with | :07:39. | :07:42. | |
that story about NHS care and the Care Quality Commission. They also | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
have a story about immigrant crime. The Sunday Times has a story about | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
corrupt detectives. There was a lot of coverage of England's defeat in | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
Paris as well in the rugby. The Mail on Sunday has a deadly risk of a | :07:57. | :08:02. | |
pill used by 1 million women. And a Tory MP allegedly dressed as a Nazi. | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
Finally, Scotland on Sunday has a story about Robbins in the Scottish | :08:07. | :08:11. | |
health service and a story about a row in Scotland over gay marriage. | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
It happens at Holyrood as well as Westminster. Thank you to both | :08:16. | :08:21. | |
Benedicte and Michael for joining us. We start with the Gove story. | :08:22. | :08:26. | |
And so we should. He is coming on your programme. And who did what? A | :08:27. | :08:32. | |
week ago, Sir Michael Wilshaw, the government appointed ex-headmaster | :08:33. | :08:35. | |
running Ofsted, complained that he was being briefed against by Gove | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
aids, those shadowy special advisers. A few days later, Sally | :08:41. | :08:50. | |
Morgan gets sacked. What is going on? Morgan was appointed by the | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
Tories and was a reform of schools when she worked under Tony Blair. | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
She is not a Luddite machine was willing to give free schools ago. | :08:59. | :09:04. | |
But Ofsted have been critical of free schools and the use of | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
amplified teachers. Remember, it is run by a tough test is headmaster -- | :09:09. | :09:15. | |
a tough former headmaster, Sir Michael Wilshaw. So what is going | :09:16. | :09:23. | |
on, did Number Ten sack Lady Morgan? Then she hits back in these papers. | :09:24. | :09:29. | |
And David Laws, who is Gove's deputy, supports her. The Lib Dems | :09:30. | :09:39. | |
are very keen on this. We don't think that Michael Gove and David | :09:40. | :09:45. | |
Laws are buddies anyway. That is right. David Laws fell off the | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
coalition wagon after a month over his expenses. He is a super clever | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
fellow. I will not say who has got more GCSEs. They are both clever | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
fellows, but Michael Gove is a former journalist and he believes in | :10:00. | :10:06. | |
headlines, like us. Maybe getting almost too many headlines this | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
morning. Yes, he relaunched World War I the other day. The Sunday | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
Times has a good headline - suspicion that a former Tory donor, | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
private equity chief Theodore Agnew, is earmarked to replace her. Morgan | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
says it is not just about getting rid of Labour people like me, it is | :10:25. | :10:27. | |
about getting rid of all independence so that the Charity | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
commission, schools and everyone else, Chris Smith of the Environment | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
Agency is under fire over the flooding, and he is a Labour man | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
too. But we don't have a quote from David Laws. It is about time he | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
broke cover. That would be going too far. Benedicte, I want to turn to | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
the meat of some of the Gove announcements, including discipline. | :10:51. | :10:53. | |
Who better to have than a friend woman to talk about school | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
discipline? You look at it differently over there. Yes, and | :10:58. | :11:00. | |
having gone through the French system myself, I agree with what is | :11:01. | :11:08. | |
here termed as old-fashioned discipline. Writing lines. The new | :11:09. | :11:14. | |
trend is about having community service, but this is guidance. What | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
happens to a poorly behaved pupil in a French school? You get held back | :11:19. | :11:27. | |
for an hour or two. You get brought back on a Saturday and you get to | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
write lines out 100 times. You have to do more homework. Don't reinvent | :11:32. | :11:38. | |
the wheel. A bit of discipline. It is like being a parent. Don't | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
threaten something you are not prepared to carry out. So I think | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
this sounds sensible. The point is that a lot of teachers don't know | :11:49. | :11:51. | |
any more. They are terrified either of being hit by some pupils, but | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
more frequently, they are afraid of litigation. So they don't know what | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
they can or can't do. There is a loss of authority. And there is a | :12:03. | :12:06. | |
threat of litigation right across society. Maybe David Cameron could | :12:07. | :12:13. | |
borrow Gove's rules for the Conservative Party, because there is | :12:14. | :12:16. | |
a lack of discipline there. I will obey the leader, 100 times. I am | :12:17. | :12:22. | |
suddenly glad you are not my maths teacher. I can see you looking | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
scary. It is the moustache. And the tone of voice. What's next? There is | :12:29. | :12:35. | |
a worrying story in the Daily Mail about women who are on the pill. | :12:36. | :12:41. | |
Fatal blood clots. There is always a worrying story in the Daily Mail | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
about the pill. It is a specialism. The Daily Express also do it. One of | :12:47. | :12:52. | |
the pill is concerned is called Yasmin. The health warning is, don't | :12:53. | :13:00. | |
take my word or the Daily Mail's word for it, if you are taking these | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
pills, you should consult your doctor. But we know there have been | :13:05. | :13:12. | |
14 deaths in France from this. How do people die from it? They get a | :13:13. | :13:19. | |
blood clot and die from that. But others are saying 14 deaths, given | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
the huge number of women who take it, it is not that dangerous. This | :13:24. | :13:29. | |
is a scare story. They are right to say that if women are vulnerable to | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
blood clots, maybe they should go on another pill. This is a | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
third-generation pill. It is much more friendly, although what do I | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
know? If you read it to the end, it has been around for a long time. | :13:42. | :13:46. | |
Everything is dangerous. Pregnancy is dangerous as well. At the | :13:47. | :13:53. | |
beginning of the programme, I mentioned the Labour Party's union | :13:54. | :14:01. | |
reform. Yes. Look at this magnificent observer all you need to | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
know article. I have written a lot of these in my time. If you are | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
named here as an important person, you are in trouble. The lads will | :14:13. | :14:15. | |
get you behind the bike shed and make you write 100 lines next week. | :14:16. | :14:21. | |
It is about Miliband trying to reform the relationship with the | :14:22. | :14:27. | |
unions, the money and the votes. There are a lot of American gurus | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
coming in to help. The Labour Party has always turned to the United | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
States and the Democratic party, even to Theodore reserve at 100 | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
years ago, rather than to Europe. It is the lack of Marxism in the | :14:41. | :14:43. | |
British labour movement. They don't go to French intellectuals. And as | :14:44. | :14:51. | |
everyone scrabbles around to try to make sense of the proposed union | :14:52. | :14:54. | |
changes, the Labour leadership will be pleased that Andrew Walmsley in | :14:55. | :15:01. | |
the Observer has a piece which sounds optimistic. He says it is | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
finishing what Neil Kinnock started. I think it is too optimistic. Some | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
of the paper said that if you get rid of the unions' big cheque-books | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
and rely on ?3 a head for union members opting in to pay this money | :15:17. | :15:19. | |
to the Labour Party and get some voting rights on the leader, it will | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
cost ordinary members of ?40. They might lose 4 million quid. Friends | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
of mine said the gap in labour's budget could be ?8 million, just at | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
a time when the Conservatives are coining it in. So when Ed Miliband | :15:35. | :15:38. | |
says it is a big risk, that is true? Definitely, although there will also | :15:39. | :15:41. | |
have a new process for electing a leader. Miliband was voted for by | :15:42. | :15:47. | |
union bosses, and now it will be harder. The election campaign has | :15:48. | :15:57. | |
definitely kicked off because the only Ed Miliband has been stung by | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
the criticism and the image which has stuck about the one member, one | :16:02. | :16:11. | |
vote. I was there, we know the tenterhooks, so he is trying to | :16:12. | :16:16. | |
dispel that. John Prescott feels strongly about it and he is backing | :16:17. | :16:29. | |
this. As you referred to, he is saying he is in favour of it and he | :16:30. | :16:36. | |
started this process in 1993. That is a good headline! The leader put | :16:37. | :16:49. | |
his Ed on the block! You are a journalist who follows Francois | :16:50. | :16:55. | |
Hollande, normally in France we hear it is the other way round, he | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
follows journalists, but tell me about what is in the paper today. | :17:00. | :17:07. | |
There are two different angles, one is about the summit when the French | :17:08. | :17:14. | |
president declined to answer about his personal life and this alleged | :17:15. | :17:20. | |
affair he had. More importantly for David Cameron, he said it was not a | :17:21. | :17:26. | |
priority to renegotiate Britain's relationships. That is a serious | :17:27. | :17:33. | |
blow. Luck it is, because David Cameron needs powerful allies. This | :17:34. | :17:39. | |
article is trying to put a positive spin on it, saying it is a process | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
of negotiations and it is not a definite no, but that is not what I | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
have heard. Do you think Francois Hollande has | :17:51. | :17:58. | |
taken offence about what has been said about the French economy in | :17:59. | :18:05. | |
recent months? Certainly the French press feels there has been some | :18:06. | :18:17. | |
French bashing, and Francois Hollande has been ridiculed because | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
of his personal life, also because of the bad unemployment figures. | :18:22. | :18:27. | |
President Hollande campaigned about getting the unemployment figures | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
down and he has not succeeded. In the Daily Telegraph there is a very | :18:34. | :18:39. | |
good article by my colleague and she talks about how he had a good visit | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
in Turkey but basically this ridicule, of course, he prepared his | :18:44. | :18:50. | |
answer about the woman he had an affair with, who on Friday was | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
nominated for the Best supporting role. We could make her the head of | :18:57. | :19:04. | |
Ofsted, the French know how to do it. And you have a great photograph. | :19:05. | :19:12. | |
Hold it up, he doesn't take dignified photographs, does he? And | :19:13. | :19:18. | |
this has been singled out as a very mean picture taken by the British | :19:19. | :19:28. | |
press. Interesting, Mr Cameron looks all right. This is a trained French | :19:29. | :19:35. | |
journalist, this only speculation. The other picture which I loved | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
here, and all London commuters will particularly enjoy, port -- Bob Crow | :19:42. | :19:52. | |
preparing for his strike in Brazil! It is a photo of Bob Crow preparing | :19:53. | :20:01. | |
two days of paying for Londoners. He feels our pain. I don't know if he | :20:02. | :20:10. | |
does, he has been there for two weeks and he has sunburn. We cannot | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
finish without talking about the rugby, a great day for France. It | :20:16. | :20:25. | |
was called the crunch, the British were brilliant, the English I beg | :20:26. | :20:35. | |
your pardon. English region and we haven't actually played yet. But the | :20:36. | :20:42. | |
Welsh are very strong. We are unionists, we want them both to | :20:43. | :20:50. | |
win! There is the grand slam so there is still hope. Thank you very | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
much indeed. And so to the weather. Terrible floods again.1767, George | :20:56. | :20:58. | |
III on the throne. We still run North America. A man called Daniel | :20:59. | :21:01. | |
Boone discovers a place called Kentucky and Europeans - British | :21:02. | :21:04. | |
ship, in fact, arrives for the first time at Tahiti. 1767. Jeremy | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
Clarkson was just a boy. And it was the last time, apparently, that we | :21:09. | :21:11. | |
had flooding this bad. Over to the weather studio, and Tomasz | :21:12. | :21:12. | |
Schafernaker. What an epic introduction to the | :21:13. | :21:25. | |
weather file and not very epic weather forecast. It is a lot better | :21:26. | :21:31. | |
than yesterday, we just have the leftovers of the storm which has | :21:32. | :21:36. | |
blown itself out. We are still feeling the tail end of this storm, | :21:37. | :21:46. | |
but on balance the most today there is a bit of wind and some showers | :21:47. | :21:54. | |
and not a bad day to go out and about. Tonight goes clear for money | :21:55. | :22:01. | |
to start with, but then the weather unfortunately goes downhill again so | :22:02. | :22:04. | |
by the time we get to five o'clock on Monday the rain is nudging into | :22:05. | :22:09. | |
the western fringes of the Southwest, Wales into Scotland as | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
well, and gales blowing at up to 60 mph. I think it will be quite a | :22:14. | :22:18. | |
narrow band of rain so it will be hit and miss depending on where you | :22:19. | :22:24. | |
are. As we head into Wednesday, there is a familiar story, zillions | :22:25. | :22:32. | |
of isobars which means the wind will be very strong, lots of cloud, lots | :22:33. | :22:38. | |
of rain, and to summarise it can only be said that there is more rain | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
and more gales, but let's just get through the sunshine today and enjoy | :22:44. | :22:44. | |
what we have. Ever since last summer and the row | :22:45. | :22:54. | |
over selection of a candidate in Falkirk, Ed Miliband has been | :22:55. | :22:57. | |
promising a radical reshaping of his party's relationship with the trade | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
unions who are, awkwardly, among his main paymasters too. Now, at last, | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
we have the suggested package of changes, heralded by Mr Miliband as | :23:05. | :23:07. | |
one of the biggest and boldest things he's done so far. Harriet | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
Harman, his deputy, joins us now. It is all about the numbers up to a | :23:12. | :23:16. | |
point, you have something like 200,000 ordinary Labour Party | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
members and there are 2.7 trade unionists, so if only 10% of the | :23:21. | :23:26. | |
trade unionists actually sign up as members of the Labour Party, they | :23:27. | :23:31. | |
will overwhelm current members of the Labour Party, that's right isn't | :23:32. | :23:37. | |
it? It's not all about the numbers, it's about opening up the Labour | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
Party to people in work places up and down the country, broadening the | :23:43. | :23:48. | |
base of the Labour Party, but doing it in a legitimate and realistic | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
way. The idea to juxtapose people who are working in call centres, | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
factories, warehouses, public services, to juxtapose them, people | :23:58. | :24:03. | |
who support the Labour Party and have actually registered to be on | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
the books of the Labour Party, to juxtapose them against the | :24:08. | :24:10. | |
membership of the Labour Party and say they shouldn't have a vote in | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
the leadership I think is wrong. These proposals broaden the base of | :24:16. | :24:21. | |
the party in a legitimate way. Up and down the country under these | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
proposals, it is quite likely the Labour Party will be dominated by | :24:26. | :24:31. | |
new trade union members. I query the word domination. There will be | :24:32. | :24:40. | |
people at work, ordinary people at work, and this will reinvigorate the | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
party at a local level. How about they will be heavily influenced by | :24:46. | :24:56. | |
trade union members. It will breathe new life into the party. To have a | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
strong local connection between people who are working and living | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
locally, together with the Labour Party, that is what our democracy | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
needs in this country. I think it is being slightly phobic about trade | :25:10. | :25:16. | |
unionists. Why shouldn't they have a say about the leader of the party | :25:17. | :25:22. | |
they support? Absolutely right but trade union activists have a trade | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
union agenda and that is their right. If you give them a cut-price | :25:27. | :25:34. | |
?3 entry into the Labour Party, why not do it for members of the | :25:35. | :25:41. | |
National trust? Why just trade unionist? There is nothing wrong | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
with being an activist but this is about everybody and we have a range | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
of members. If you are a student you get to join the party for ?1. If you | :25:51. | :25:55. | |
are a member of the Armed Forces, you get to join the party for ?1. | :25:56. | :26:00. | |
Here we are saying that if you are a member of the trade union which is | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
affiliated with the Labour Party and you sign up to join and you pay ?3, | :26:05. | :26:13. | |
you can vote in the leadership election. All the people who vote | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
want to see us in government. If you bring in lots more trade union | :26:19. | :26:24. | |
members, and there will be the activists inevitably, that will tilt | :26:25. | :26:27. | |
the Labour Party more in a trade union direction, it is like night | :26:28. | :26:33. | |
follows day into it? If you mean people who care about more people | :26:34. | :26:37. | |
being able to get jobs, being able to have the living wage, caring | :26:38. | :26:42. | |
about decent terms and conditions, caring about equality and social | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
justice, yes that is a good thing, that is what the Labour Party | :26:48. | :26:52. | |
believes in, and they will only be in the Labour Party election for the | :26:53. | :26:55. | |
leadership if they have signed up to the Labour Party and we then ballot | :26:56. | :27:00. | |
them because they have said they support the Labour Party. They have | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
to not only be a member of the trade union but they have to turn to us | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
and say we want to be part of the party. How can you be certain they | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
are Labour Party supporters when they join? How can you make sure | :27:15. | :27:21. | |
anybody is supporting anything? They will have to sign that they support | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
the Labour Party and no other party and they will have to give them | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
money so actually that is the way parties work. It is a very easy way | :27:32. | :27:36. | |
for members of other parties to sign up, get into the Labour Party and | :27:37. | :27:43. | |
have a big influence. I know people are asking that question but I think | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
it combines being slightly phobic about trade unions and also | :27:49. | :27:53. | |
patronising. This is about ordinary people at work who will make up | :27:54. | :27:57. | |
their own minds about who they want to have as a leader, and it will be | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
good for us to be engaged at a local level. We are talking about people | :28:03. | :28:08. | |
who work in offices and shops, people who are also members of trade | :28:09. | :28:14. | |
unions. Why is it that some of your key colleagues are very worried | :28:15. | :28:22. | |
about this then? I hope they will listen to the facts and be in favour | :28:23. | :28:28. | |
of it. The ballot goes out to people all around the country, and many | :28:29. | :28:31. | |
more numbers we hope than currently vote but who have said will support | :28:32. | :28:38. | |
the Labour Party. How many trade union members do you think the party | :28:39. | :28:48. | |
will have in the years time? We hope many will become members, it could | :28:49. | :29:03. | |
be 270,000 more people involved at a local level and that would be good | :29:04. | :29:13. | |
for politics. They would obviously alongside Labour Party members, they | :29:14. | :29:16. | |
would be able to vote in the leadership election, but at the end | :29:17. | :29:22. | |
of the day, why shouldn't they? Why shouldn't you have a say in the vote | :29:23. | :29:27. | |
for the leadership? I think it is a good thing. Let's move on, this will | :29:28. | :29:32. | |
be discussed at a special conference later in the year, and we thought | :29:33. | :29:37. | |
this was going to be an open conference under debate but there | :29:38. | :29:41. | |
are now rumours it will go on for two hours, is that right? There will | :29:42. | :29:47. | |
be discussions under conference and we will decide and people will | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
vote. There is loads of debate going on. And will the proposals be | :29:53. | :30:01. | |
subject to amendment at that conference? Yes or no, a rubber | :30:02. | :30:05. | |
stamp? No, because people can say no. The rules of the Labour Party | :30:06. | :30:12. | |
have changed over time and the leader has a responsibility to say | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
this is how I see it, and the party can I be back that or not. On the | :30:17. | :30:21. | |
money, is it true that the price for this deal the unions will carry on | :30:22. | :30:25. | |
supporting the Labour Party at roughly the same level until the | :30:26. | :30:32. | |
general election? We are phasing this in over five years. There has | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
been hot-headed talk over union financing. For the avoidance of | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
doubt, the biggest donors to the Labour Party are our individual | :30:42. | :30:45. | |
members. Many of whom will be a bit hacked off to find they could have | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
joined for the ?3 rather than ?43. I don't think so, because they also | :30:51. | :30:55. | |
know that students can join for ?1. Former armed forces members can join | :30:56. | :31:01. | |
for ?1. There is a reduced rate for those who are unemployed. The point | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
is that Labour Party members can stand as MPs and can vote in local | :31:06. | :31:13. | |
elections. It is different. Some of the papers are saying this will cost | :31:14. | :31:17. | |
the Labour Party ?4 million a year. Is that a figure you recognise? It | :31:18. | :31:22. | |
is being phased in over five years, because it does have financial | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
implications. But what is important about this is that it broadens the | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
base of the party in a legitimate way. You can't start by talking | :31:32. | :31:34. | |
about money and work your way back to the right decision. You have to | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
make the right decision and try to raise the money as well. I thought | :31:39. | :31:45. | |
the main thing was to make sure the money keeps coming in. That is not | :31:46. | :31:49. | |
at all what was said. There is too much cloak and dagger stuff about | :31:50. | :31:56. | |
that. This is all in the open, these proposals. They will go to the party | :31:57. | :32:00. | |
conference, and I hope people support them. A lot of people will | :32:01. | :32:05. | |
say, why aren't you spending all your time talking about the economy | :32:06. | :32:09. | |
and the health service? These are important issues. Why fiddle with | :32:10. | :32:14. | |
the party rules? But it is important that our party's roots are deep and | :32:15. | :32:18. | |
that when people vote for the leadership, it is because they have | :32:19. | :32:22. | |
chosen to support the Labour Party and are paying. Would Ed Miliband | :32:23. | :32:28. | |
have been voted for as leader if this had been in place before? It is | :32:29. | :32:32. | |
impossible to say. The point is that Ed Miliband was elected fair and | :32:33. | :32:34. | |
square under the old rules. But he thinks it is time for a change in | :32:35. | :32:40. | |
those rules, and he is right. What about the fact that the conference | :32:41. | :32:43. | |
voting will not change on policy matters? Surely that is the crucial | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
question. The unions will still have a 50% say. What he is proposing for | :32:49. | :32:55. | |
the March conference is a huge change - in financing, in voting for | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
the leader and what goes on at local level . In due course, it may have | :33:00. | :33:06. | |
implications for other things, but it is already a big issue to take | :33:07. | :33:11. | |
forward. Thank you for joining us. Now to something entirely | :33:12. | :33:14. | |
different. Apart from being a fine actor, Ralph Fiennes has carved out | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
quite a career as a director. His debut behind the camera, Coriolanus, | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
was a critical hit. His second outing as director also sees him | :33:24. | :33:26. | |
playing the central role. The Invisible Woman is about Charles | :33:27. | :33:30. | |
Dickens' infatuation with a much younger actress, Nelly Ternan. | :33:31. | :33:33. | |
Fiennes plays the author at the peak of his career when the affair | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
overturns both his marriage and reputation. When we met, Ralph | :33:38. | :33:41. | |
Fiennes told me about how Dickens, who was also an accomplished actor | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
in his day, was undone by love. My sense is that Dickens was a very | :33:46. | :33:51. | |
gregarious, socially vital, workaholic man who loved being the | :33:52. | :33:54. | |
centre of a social event. We see him at the beginning, rehearsing with a | :33:55. | :33:58. | |
group of actors in an amateur production. He falls in love with a | :33:59. | :34:02. | |
much younger girl, and there is the trauma which comes with a leap of | :34:03. | :34:07. | |
the heart that is also catastrophic. This man spent most of his career | :34:08. | :34:11. | |
celebrity the heart and family, and now he smashes it to pieces. I think | :34:12. | :34:18. | |
it surprises him. I think he probably did not expect that sort of | :34:19. | :34:23. | |
thing to come at him. My theory is that he had been writing the perfect | :34:24. | :34:26. | |
half of the end of earlier novels with this demure, perfect, | :34:27. | :34:32. | |
angel-like woman, whether it is Agnes in David Copperfield or Esther | :34:33. | :34:39. | |
Summerson in Bleak House. And then the Lee walked into his life in this | :34:40. | :34:43. | |
rehearsal, and I think he projected onto her this ideal. It was not | :34:44. | :34:46. | |
necessarily that Nelly was that person. I think Nellie was a | :34:47. | :34:50. | |
self-contained, self-possessed young actress. And he decided that was | :34:51. | :34:56. | |
her. I hope the film tries to show how Nelly negotiates Dickens. Did | :34:57. | :35:05. | |
you send Catherine to me? Yes. She's the mother of children? And I shall | :35:06. | :35:10. | |
always be grateful, but I do not love her. She comprehends nothing. | :35:11. | :35:16. | |
She sees nothing. I thought she saw you, she would understand that I | :35:17. | :35:19. | |
have nothing with her. I wanted her to see it. It? What is "it", | :35:20. | :35:33. | |
Charles? What is it that we are? And quite ignorant about Dickens. I did | :35:34. | :35:36. | |
not know much about the man and I had only read one Dickens novel, so | :35:37. | :35:41. | |
it has been a discovery. The book for me to want to make it was Nelly. | :35:42. | :35:46. | |
The film explores her as she is being pursued by Dickens and how | :35:47. | :35:49. | |
young girl has to negotiate their way through Dickens' and Morris at | :35:50. | :35:55. | |
attention. And then later in her life, how she finds some kind of | :35:56. | :36:00. | |
closure with it. This is a very pretty cottage. Thank you, if a | :36:01. | :36:04. | |
little small. The other extraordinary character in the film | :36:05. | :36:09. | |
is Nelly's mother, played by the wonderful Kristin Scott Thomas, who | :36:10. | :36:13. | |
is aware that her daughter is about to commit sin and social disaster. | :36:14. | :36:21. | |
My daughter is a fine young woman. Sometimes, an actress for the | :36:22. | :36:26. | |
future. I understand. If I may be of assistance in any way? I cannot risk | :36:27. | :36:36. | |
Nelly's reputation. I hope that nothing I can offer would compromise | :36:37. | :36:41. | |
her. This was fascinating to me, because | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
Claire Tomalin deals with this in the book. It is clearly a social | :36:46. | :36:48. | |
disaster for a young girl to be seen as the mistress for Dickens. | :36:49. | :36:52. | |
Disastrous for him and for her, scandalous. And yet, by all evidence | :36:53. | :36:59. | |
that Claire presents, the mother acquiesces and, in unspoken way, | :37:00. | :37:05. | |
almost approves the love affair, because Dickens was a catch. It | :37:06. | :37:10. | |
struck me how Dickens is here pursued as a global celebrity who | :37:11. | :37:15. | |
can't go anywhere without crowds around him. And he's tried to | :37:16. | :37:17. | |
conduct a competitive private life under the glare of publicity. There | :37:18. | :37:22. | |
is an irony that Dickens, being a kind of superstar in the | :37:23. | :37:27. | |
English-speaking world, a literary superstar, certainly, when this | :37:28. | :37:33. | |
thing happens to him and he decided to exit his marriage, he does the | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
thing you should never do, which is to justify it to the Times. Can I | :37:38. | :37:44. | |
ask a bit more generally? This is your second big film as a director. | :37:45. | :37:48. | |
These films are presumably very expensive to raise money for. To | :37:49. | :37:56. | |
what extent do you leverage your fame to give you the power to raise | :37:57. | :38:00. | |
the money to make the films you want to make? There is no question that | :38:01. | :38:03. | |
playing Voldemort and the huge success of the Harry Potter | :38:04. | :38:08. | |
franchise and being the main bad guy in that, there is no question that | :38:09. | :38:12. | |
that helps. When you go to raise money for a film, there was a | :38:13. | :38:19. | |
terrifying reality which is that you sit down with money people, very | :38:20. | :38:27. | |
established stars and actors, and suddenly you are told that they do | :38:28. | :38:30. | |
not mean anything any more because they were successful three years ago | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
and now it is so and so. So do I have any meaning in this sense? So | :38:36. | :38:39. | |
Harry Potter certainly helped. It is a strange thought that it is thanks | :38:40. | :38:43. | |
to JK Rowling that we can get Shakespeare and Dickens on the | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
screen. Yes! There was a funny reality that you don't encounter if | :38:48. | :38:54. | |
you are just being an encounter and you are waiting for the phone to | :38:55. | :38:57. | |
ring and get a job. But if you are waiting for the money to make a | :38:58. | :39:00. | |
film, the distributors and studios have a thing about who is in. It is | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
uncomfortable. Going back to Dickens, he was a very serious | :39:06. | :39:11. | |
thespian himself. He wanted to be an actor. And you think he was a good | :39:12. | :39:19. | |
one? I do. I read a review of his acting, and it said "Mister Dickens | :39:20. | :39:24. | |
does not come to the footlights and grandstand his emotions. If he is a | :39:25. | :39:28. | |
man depressed, he is a man depressed, we believe him as quote. | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
So it all connects. It is Dickens and your own ambition. Thank you | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
very much. Ralph finds, a clever fellow. Now, | :39:38. | :39:42. | |
Michael Gove, another clever fellow, the Education Secretary, has the | :39:43. | :39:46. | |
reputation for being one of the Tory radicals in the coalition cabinet. | :39:47. | :39:49. | |
Over the past few days, his office has poured out another range of | :39:50. | :39:52. | |
ideas about tougher discipline in schools, shorter school holidays, | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
tests for four-year-olds and so one. But being a radical also means you | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
get tangled in controversy. And as we have heard, there has been | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
criticism over his decision to get rid of Sally Morgan, a Labour peer | :40:05. | :40:09. | |
Baroness Morgan, chair of Ofsted. Mr Gove joins me now. You appointed | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
Sally? And she is a fantastic person. She will carry on working | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
alongside us until September. Has she been a good head of Ofsted? Yes, | :40:20. | :40:24. | |
she has done a good job. She and Sir Michael Wilshaw, the chief | :40:25. | :40:27. | |
inspector, are a fantastic team. I have known Sally for several years. | :40:28. | :40:33. | |
Before I appointed her, I admired the fact that she was a brave and | :40:34. | :40:37. | |
principled person who was prepared sometimes to defy party orthodoxy to | :40:38. | :40:41. | |
do the right thing. She is a good egg. So why kick her out? Well, I | :40:42. | :40:48. | |
think it is recognised across government that from time to time, | :40:49. | :40:52. | |
you need to refresh the person who is chair of a particular body in | :40:53. | :40:56. | |
order to bring a new pair of eyes to bear. In the Department of Education | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
itself, we had a further three years, but that is the term. At the | :41:02. | :41:05. | |
end of an individual term, it is appropriate to consider whether or | :41:06. | :41:08. | |
not we might need a new person to bring a new post it. But here is an | :41:09. | :41:14. | |
excellent egg running often very well, and yet she is having to go, | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
and she is upset about it. I was told that when she asked you about | :41:20. | :41:24. | |
it, you said, well, you and labour. And she is Labour. Was that your | :41:25. | :41:30. | |
explanation? Let me be clear. This government is happy to appoint | :41:31. | :41:33. | |
people, whatever their political background, two important jobs. I | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
appointed Sally in the first place, knowing she was Labour. We also | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
appointed a former Labour special adviser, Simon Stephens, to head the | :41:42. | :41:48. | |
NHS. When it came to the new chair of Ofsted, we will appoint on merit. | :41:49. | :41:56. | |
A Tory donor called Mr Agnew? Well, if there is an outstanding labour | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
candidate who wants to do it, I am the government will look on their | :42:01. | :42:03. | |
application with the same degree of favour as we would anyone else who | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
is highly qualified. It is wrong to try to argue that this government is | :42:08. | :42:11. | |
favouring one group of individuals over another. There is a pattern. | :42:12. | :42:16. | |
There is Jennie Brand ski at the Heritage Lottery Fund, Baroness | :42:17. | :42:20. | |
Andrews at English Heritage, Sally Morgan, Liz Morgan at the arts | :42:21. | :42:24. | |
Council. Left-leaning women are being kicked out. There is also a | :42:25. | :42:27. | |
pattern of distinguished figures with no political allegiance being | :42:28. | :42:33. | |
appointed. If you look at the figures rather than a few examples, | :42:34. | :42:37. | |
in the first three years of the coalition, three times as many | :42:38. | :42:43. | |
people who were Labour were appointed or reappointed to public | :42:44. | :42:47. | |
bodies as Conservatives. And now you are having second thoughts? | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
Absolutely not. I believe it was right for me to have appointed | :42:52. | :42:54. | |
Sally. She has done a fantastic job. But it is also the case, that | :42:55. | :43:01. | |
for example, we used to have the chairman of the board within the | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
Department for Education as a distinguished figure with no | :43:06. | :43:08. | |
political allegiance. Then I decide to appoint a Liberal Democrat. The | :43:09. | :43:13. | |
only pattern you can see is appointment on merit and a desire to | :43:14. | :43:19. | |
make sure we have tough figures to concentrate on improving the | :43:20. | :43:21. | |
education system. Do you understand Sally Morgan's amusement when she is | :43:22. | :43:27. | |
told she is fantastic, but take your coat as you leave? Well, I talked to | :43:28. | :43:32. | |
Sally yesterday on the day before. If there is another opportunity for | :43:33. | :43:35. | |
her to serve in a different role at a different time, I would be | :43:36. | :43:38. | |
delighted to support her in whatever role is appropriate. There is | :43:39. | :43:43. | |
nothing wrong with Sally, but there is a principle across government | :43:44. | :43:50. | |
that there should be no automatic reappointment and after whatever the | :43:51. | :43:54. | |
term is in a particular role, it is appropriate to bring a fresh pair of | :43:55. | :43:57. | |
eyes. That is good corporate practice in order to ensure that you | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
refresh wards and bring a new perspective and have tough questions | :44:03. | :44:05. | |
asked. Sally herself replaced someone who had been in post for | :44:06. | :44:12. | |
four years. Sally, having brought significant gifts to this role, will | :44:13. | :44:18. | |
bring superb debts to another role in the future. Is Mr Agnew being | :44:19. | :44:22. | |
lined up? Anyone can apply who feels they have something to bring to the | :44:23. | :44:29. | |
organisation. I want the widest possible range of candidates. No one | :44:30. | :44:33. | |
should be ruled out on the basis of political age allegiance. If someone | :44:34. | :44:36. | |
is a distinguished former minister and wants to put their hat in the | :44:37. | :44:39. | |
ring, I would look favourably on that. If there is someone who is a | :44:40. | :44:45. | |
conservative, why should they be ruled out just because they are a | :44:46. | :44:48. | |
conservative? That would be wrong. We want to appoint on merit. Sounds | :44:49. | :44:55. | |
like you are lining up the Conservative donor for this job? It | :44:56. | :44:59. | |
is wrong to rule anyone out. The important thing is to make sure we | :45:00. | :45:02. | |
have a broad field. The appointment will be made in accordance with the | :45:03. | :45:10. | |
rules, which are clear and fair. There is a process to go through | :45:11. | :45:15. | |
which is at arm's length from ministers. I would expect that the | :45:16. | :45:17. | |
person chairing the appointment panel will be the gentleman I | :45:18. | :45:21. | |
mentioned earlier, Paul Marshall, a friend of mine who is a Liberal | :45:22. | :45:24. | |
Democrat party donor. The fact that he is chairing the panel is one of | :45:25. | :45:30. | |
the guarantees of integrity you would expect. Was it your decision | :45:31. | :45:34. | |
or Number Ten's decision? Absolutely my decision. There has been | :45:35. | :45:46. | |
discussion about lengthening the school day, is that something you | :45:47. | :45:50. | |
want to roll out across the country? Not quite, the idea came | :45:51. | :45:56. | |
from Paul Kirby who has now moved back into the private sector. There | :45:57. | :46:01. | |
is a case for varying it in order to give people access to cheaper | :46:02. | :46:04. | |
holidays but I do believe we need to have a longer school day. I don't | :46:05. | :46:10. | |
believe they should be mandated like that from the centre right now. We | :46:11. | :46:14. | |
need to work with the profession in order to ensure we can provide the | :46:15. | :46:23. | |
extracurricular activities that pupils get in private fee-paying | :46:24. | :46:28. | |
schools. I can see the case for this but it will cost money, people | :46:29. | :46:33. | |
staying on for longer to supervise acceptor. There is already within | :46:34. | :46:41. | |
the state system the example of a number of schools funded just as | :46:42. | :46:45. | |
tightly as other schools that are already providing an extended school | :46:46. | :46:50. | |
day with all sorts of activities, whether it is competitive sport, | :46:51. | :47:04. | |
drama, or debating, that helped a -- help to build character and grit. | :47:05. | :47:07. | |
One of the things we are also talking about today is the | :47:08. | :47:11. | |
importance of behaviour. I will come onto that in a moment but you | :47:12. | :47:16. | |
mentioned the question of school holidays and the expensive prices | :47:17. | :47:20. | |
some people face for going abroad and so forth. Do you have any | :47:21. | :47:24. | |
sympathy with people who take their children out of school to capitalise | :47:25. | :47:32. | |
on a holidays? I do find the cost of holidays during school holidays | :47:33. | :47:36. | |
excessive but the answer is not to take children out of school in term | :47:37. | :47:41. | |
time. It is vital children are at school learning and I think schools | :47:42. | :47:45. | |
are right to punish parents for doing that. We need to deploy a more | :47:46. | :47:53. | |
flexible approach. Let's move on to discipline, you have suggested | :47:54. | :47:57. | |
writing lines and picking up litter. One of your supporters in the press | :47:58. | :48:02. | |
has said you have got to be very careful of not announcing gimmicks | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
but having proper policies, they clearly see this as a gimmick. The | :48:08. | :48:12. | |
reaction from teachers I have spoken to is quite different. They believe | :48:13. | :48:16. | |
the Government should support them in making sure they have a wide | :48:17. | :48:20. | |
range of sanctions. Critically we need to make sure that the one in | :48:21. | :48:25. | |
three teachers who say they are uncertain about the measures we | :48:26. | :48:34. | |
deploy, but they should have a full range of measures up to and | :48:35. | :48:38. | |
including community service and I think it is absolutely right to say | :48:39. | :48:42. | |
to students that if they have in some way undermined discipline that | :48:43. | :48:49. | |
they should be responsible for clearing up litter, or weeding the | :48:50. | :48:55. | |
school playing field. People need to understand that there are | :48:56. | :48:58. | |
consequences if they break the rules and that teachers have the power to | :48:59. | :49:04. | |
enforce them. What about manhandling them, as it were, because that is a | :49:05. | :49:10. | |
grey area. If the people this behaving badly and the teacher needs | :49:11. | :49:16. | |
to get them out, what can they do? It used to be the case that teachers | :49:17. | :49:23. | |
felt there is no touch rule, but if you need to separate two students in | :49:24. | :49:30. | |
conflict you can use appropriate physical intervention in order to | :49:31. | :49:34. | |
separate them, or to constrain a pupil behaving in a certain way. | :49:35. | :49:50. | |
Some say you clearly need legislation for this. I would say we | :49:51. | :49:54. | |
have changed the rules so that teachers get protection against the | :49:55. | :49:59. | |
sorts of allegations, and standard allegations often, which can blight | :50:00. | :50:05. | |
their career. Whatever the tools are that the teachers need we will give | :50:06. | :50:09. | |
them, and I think it is appropriate that teachers know that whatever | :50:10. | :50:14. | |
they need we will back them 100%. A lot of teachers say there are far | :50:15. | :50:20. | |
too many tests, and now you are proposing a new hurdle when they are | :50:21. | :50:26. | |
four, that seems ridiculous. I don't think it is ridiculous to ask how | :50:27. | :50:30. | |
well children are doing at the end of primary school. What kind of test | :50:31. | :50:40. | |
can you give a four-year-old? At the moment there are variety of checks | :50:41. | :50:46. | |
that you can do, and anybody can be given a series of tests to see the | :50:47. | :50:51. | |
level of cognitive development they are at. Durham University produces a | :50:52. | :51:01. | |
set of tests widely used. Will they be stressful? No, they will be used | :51:02. | :51:11. | |
so that teaching can be tailored to students. It has been given a wide | :51:12. | :51:17. | |
welcome so far, and it will enable us to see those schools that have | :51:18. | :51:23. | |
difficult intakes that at the end of the primary phase don't appear to be | :51:24. | :51:27. | |
doing well on headline figures but they have made tremendous progress. | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
We need to make sure that the schools that are helping the most | :51:32. | :51:35. | |
disadvantaged pupils are rewarded most generously for the work they do | :51:36. | :51:41. | |
in order to advance social justice. Thank you, now the news headlines. | :51:42. | :51:46. | |
The Education Secretary has denied that his decision to look for a | :51:47. | :51:50. | |
different person to chair the schools inspectorate Ofsted was | :51:51. | :51:54. | |
politically motivated. The current holder of the post, Sally Morgan, | :51:55. | :51:59. | |
has complained Downing Street is seeking to appoint more Conservative | :52:00. | :52:06. | |
supporters to public bodies. He insisted her successor would be | :52:07. | :52:10. | |
chosen on merit. Michael Gove was speaking as he issued new guidelines | :52:11. | :52:14. | |
to schools encouraging them to use old-fashioned punishments such as | :52:15. | :52:19. | |
writing lines. Labour 's deputy leader has defended proposed reforms | :52:20. | :52:23. | |
of the party's relationship with trade unions. Plans have been | :52:24. | :52:28. | |
announced to invite individual trade unionists to become associate | :52:29. | :52:33. | |
members of the party in return for a vote in future leadership elections. | :52:34. | :52:36. | |
Harriet Harman said it was phobic to complain this would give the trade | :52:37. | :52:41. | |
union movement more influence over Labour. They will only be in the | :52:42. | :52:46. | |
election for the leadership if they have signed up to the Labour Party | :52:47. | :52:50. | |
and we then ballot them because they have paid to the Labour Party and | :52:51. | :52:53. | |
they say they support the Labour Party. They have two distinctively | :52:54. | :53:01. | |
turned to us and say we want to be part of the party. That is all from | :53:02. | :53:11. | |
me for now. The next news is on BBC One at one o'clock. At ten o'clock | :53:12. | :53:17. | |
we will be debating whether Britain should be giving refuge to Syrian | :53:18. | :53:25. | |
Christians. Lastly, women's modesty. See you at ten o'clock on BBC One. | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
Michael Gove is still here and joined by Harriet Harman. What did | :53:31. | :53:34. | |
you make of Michael's defence of Sally Morgan? Leaving aside | :53:35. | :53:45. | |
political appointments to these jobs, there is a common illuminator. | :53:46. | :53:57. | |
-- denominator. My concern is that there is a cull of women and they | :53:58. | :54:07. | |
are all being replaced by men. We don't have enough women in senior | :54:08. | :54:12. | |
positions. What is the problem in your party with women? We don't have | :54:13. | :54:19. | |
a problem with women in our party, we made one of Prime Minister and | :54:20. | :54:27. | |
she did a fantastic job. Many of the people who I have had the pleasure | :54:28. | :54:32. | |
of appointing to posts have been distinguished women in public life. | :54:33. | :54:39. | |
So there is no problem? There is a broader problem of attracting women | :54:40. | :54:45. | |
into positions. It is not a problem of attracting them, it is a problem | :54:46. | :54:50. | |
of appointing them and then not firing them and replacing them with | :54:51. | :54:54. | |
men. It would be better if we recognise our public appointments | :54:55. | :54:57. | |
would be better if there was a balanced team of men and women. I | :54:58. | :55:05. | |
was the person who appointed Sally. But somebody now has made you get | :55:06. | :55:10. | |
rid of her and replaced her with a man. We don't know if it will be a | :55:11. | :55:17. | |
man a woman who replaces her. We don't believe in tokenism, we | :55:18. | :55:30. | |
believe in meritocracy. Do you think the Labour Party proposals will make | :55:31. | :55:34. | |
it easier for women to get into the top of the Labour Party, given that | :55:35. | :55:42. | |
many trade union bosses are men? Actually the majority of trade | :55:43. | :55:45. | |
unionists are women so the extent to which it puts it in the hands of | :55:46. | :55:50. | |
trade union members the right to vote, well actually there is strong | :55:51. | :55:55. | |
concern in the Labour Party at all levels to really redress the | :55:56. | :56:03. | |
imbalance in British politics. That is why Unite is led by Len | :56:04. | :56:11. | |
McCluskey. The thing is, you cannot have your cake and eat it. This is | :56:12. | :56:16. | |
enormously enjoyable but I'm afraid we have run out of time. Next week | :56:17. | :56:23. | |
we will be talking to various people. Labour's rising star, Rachel | :56:24. | :56:32. | |
Reeves. There is a woman! And Dame Angela Lansbury will be telling me | :56:33. | :56:36. | |
about her return to the London stage at the golden age of 88. | :56:37. | :56:42. | |
Now, it's hard to believe that three decades have gone by since Lloyd | :56:43. | :56:45. | |
Cole and the Commotions released their first album. It was an unusual | :56:46. | :56:56. | |
hit for the early '80s - cool tunes with sharp song writing that | :56:57. | :56:59. | |
referenced the likes of Norman Mailer, Leonard Cohen and Simone de | :57:00. | :57:02. | |
Beauvoir. In recent years, Lloyd Cole himself has been based in the | :57:03. | :57:06. | |
USA but is back here with a new album. We leave you now with a | :57:07. | :57:09. | |
number from that album. This is Opposites Day. Good morning. | :57:10. | :57:26. | |
# Who was it said Opposites Attract? It wasn't me. | :57:27. | :57:42. | |
# I want you more than I can more than I can say. | :57:43. | :57:50. | |
# if I could choose any other day, any other day, you should know | :57:51. | :57:54. | |
better than believe a single word I say. | :57:55. | :58:02. | |
# the next line is the truth, the last line was a lie. I know you look | :58:03. | :58:12. | |
a lot like me. # we are really a sight to see. I | :58:13. | :58:17. | |
can't stop pushing you away, pushing your way. | :58:18. | :58:28. | |
# Break up on Opposite's Day. You know we are the same I know we are | :58:29. | :58:35. | |
the same. # fall in love with me, fall in love | :58:36. | :58:41. | |
with you, fall in love with me, fall in love with you. | :58:42. | :59:08. |