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We will have the latest from Sydney, where they could be three debutants


in the side. Welcome to a look ahead at what the


papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me as Sam Coates, Deputy


political editor at the Times and Robert Fox, the defence editor at


the London Evening Standard. The Express has more on the severe


weather expected over the weekend. The Financial Times reflects on


poorer festive sales, calling it a Christmas sea of red.


The Daily Telegraph says government cuts to the Environment Agency could


leave homes exposed to flooding. The Independent reports on many


university vice chancellors receiving 8% pay rises despite


lecturers receiving just 1%. Margaret Thatcher secretly preparing


to deploy the army and declare a state of emergency in response to


the miners strike. Cameras at bus lanes and boxed ulcers are -- box


junction are costing hundreds of thousands of pounds for commuters.


A third of doctors believe that charging ?10 per visit would cut the


number of urgent cases. -- nonurgent.


Would that stop people turning up when we have got an interim toenail?


This seems like an idea that we have put on the back of a prescription


pad when they were getting together at the GP conference. I do not mean


to sound so facetious, but I have not seen the story in that. How on


earth are they going to do this? The GPs say that they are worried that


routine referrals, we know that they are being used for non- emergency


treatment and consultation. That is where you have to start. Physician,


heal thyself. It is the problem of the GP system. I do not think a


charge would change that at all. But there is the idea that someone books


and appointment, there would be a rest -- retrospective charge. The


great problem with the NHS system at the moment is because it is free at


point of use, how do you make sure that people go to the right point of


entry? There are trying to make you stop getting appointments. People


have been drifting to a and E surgeries. Particularly at weekends.


Particularly at weekends. A lot of people rock up a drunk on a Saturday


night. It is a problem that Jeremy Hunt has actively tried to deal


with. A lot of areas have out of hours services contracted to private


suppliers. They have an operator who will refer you to a doctor who will


call you back. It makes sense if you have a child, to take them to the


local hospital. One of the other suggestions as if you are quite hard


up you might be put off going to the hospital at all. It is quite likely.


As Sam was saying, it is the referral system that is at the heart


of this. It is so conflict and difficult. But he did not need to be


referred. The ID would be to put people off from going because there


is a charge. It is such a meshed problem. So many ways of how people


engage with the NHS at the moment. Let us look at the Daily Telegraph.


Delays may scupper the EU bill. This is the Conservative party bill. It


is being put through as a private members bill that the Conservatives


hope would make sure it never wins the general election, there would be


a referendum on how we are part of the EU in the future. We are


starting the conversation that is going to be happening all year.


David Cameron and the Tories ahead of the European elections in May. It


is a private members bill that would commit a referendum on our


membership in 2017. Some people are saying that this is not going to


become law. That is a problem with David Cameron. A lot of his own


backbenchers said that he might duck out after the next election. The


fact that it could collapse is causing yet another problem for him


in times of party discipline. What if he just said, I tried? He is in a


hard place. Europe is a hot button issue and it has been for a long


time. One of the criteria when you are looking at a prospective


candidate is where you stand on Europe. The workers in the


constituencies are really worried about the UKIP factor. This is not


my area, but it does seem to me that where they are manoeuvring in


relation to UKIP is terribly important. It is going to be long


and strung out. Eventually there are going to come up hard in Europe


itself. There are problems. Isn't there anything the whips can do? The


Conservative party apparatus, to get it through? This is about the number


of amendments that can be put down. There simply is not enough time. It


is not going to happen. Is this going to be indicative of the kind


of you that David Cameron is going to face? I am afraid so. It is


something that David Cameron has tried to park. But so many do not


trust him. They are going to keep picking away. And there is the fear


that UKIP is going to slice out of its in every constituency, thereby


handing a lot of seats to labour, people are wondering if they have to


do more. Let us move on and talk about your article in the Times. It


is not surprise. Voters trust that society is collapsing. You have


spoken to reform the Liberal Democrat leader. He thinks that our


trust in our key institutions is crumbling into dust. He is saying


that people are unhappy with politics, that is well-known. But


what they have seen over the past few years is a collapse in the


reputation of these of society that people have become dependent on. He


names bankers, journalist, the NHS, the BBC. Some of the quotes he uses


are quite fruity stuff. The BBC cannot manage its own affairs. The


NHS is failing rate down to the level of doctors. It is pretty


difficult stuff. He says he is quite surprised there has not been more


public protest on the streets. I am not predicting more common but I


would not be surprised if people came out because they did not feel


that the democratic process has satisfied to their demands. His


argument goes on that if there is a collapse in our trust of these


institutions, the temptation for some people is to look for simple


answer is in places that mainstream politics would find distasteful, the


far right, maybe. It is quite an established theme. But he seems to


have switched over to the save wavelength of the author of the


revelations of St John the Divine. He sees things in apocalyptic terms.


It is a very strange statement for a Liberal Democrat strategist to be


making at this time. It is a extreme. The language, I mean. He is


a former leader, a member of the House of Lords. He does not need to


face an electorate in 2015. He thinks he can say stuff that Nick


Clegg cannot. He says this in a blender reform. But this man thinks


he can see it in a more robust way. But some people think he has gone


over the top. Take away the colourful language, has he got


point? He has got half a point. People are worried. But what you do


not do is fanned the flames. I have shared conferences with him. He


always goes on about the need for world governments. He is going to be


part of the planet that we do not normally inhabit in political


discussion. The rate of it is unfortunate. That is why he get


invited. Something you should watch, he looks at simplistic answers. The


very interesting that he links UKIP and the conservative movement in


France. Let us move on and look at the Daily Mail. It is on the front


page. On Page two, sorry, page eight, the education secretary


writing about how he feels that the left wing myths are undermining what


the First World War was really about. Whether it should have been


fought and what it achieved. Blasting Blackadder which many


people enjoyed. Essentially being a coward that that the whole thing was


a shambles. I'd though it does not bring his belt, that story, but we


are going to get a lot of it this year. -- when -- ring his bell. The


battle lines are being drawn. You are getting a group of right-wing


and conservative historians saying the poets that are core to the


curricula of ceremony of our schools are wrong. They were defeatists.


Michael Gove is lumping them together. The sense of futility that


you get from these people, it really informed things. It was an extremely


carefully thought out comedy that had a profound message. It is like a


schoolboy writing a sixth form SA. It is the conservative historians


against the historians. He calls out several historians he lacks. --


likes. He picks up one of my favourites, Margaret Miller, who has


written one of the outstanding books on the outbreak of the war. She has


been speaking at literary conferences. She says it was an


unnecessary war. Why could they not have stopped it? It is being


recruited for politics and a sad way. There is a lot of context that


is fascinating. I am fascinated by the politics of it as well. Michael


Gove is good at tickling the Tory party base. This goes well, attacks


on the left wing. Attacks on historians and features. --


teachers. A lot of Tory activists love this stuff. It is not


surprising. It will go down well with sections of the Tory party. It


is something he feels passionate about. Some feel find it distasteful


that it is being politicised in this way. One of the interesting things


is the impact on relationships with Germany. We have got quite a pointed


attack. That is all we have time for. You are warming to your theme.


It is about military. Of course it can talk for hours. Another time.


The papers for this evening. Sam Coates, Robert Fox, thank you very


much. Stay with us on BBC News. More severe weather on the way. Coming up


next, Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday, I'm Lizzie


Greenwood-Hughes. The headlines this evening: Hoping to avoiding a


whitewash - England make big changes for the final Ashes Test in Sydney




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