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winter, it is just a case of when. -- of FIFA. We will also have the


latest action from the lakeside. Welcome to our look ahead to what


the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are Beth Rigby,


political editor at the Financial Times, and the freelance journalist


John Kampfner. We are good to start with the independent which has this


headline... The Telegraph says coalition


planning reforms are causing physical harm to the countryside.


And the Daily Express says Britain is in for a blast of Siberian snow


after a week of flooding. The Guardian also leads on the Mark


Duggan inquest. The Daily Mail has a striking image from outside the


inquest. We are going to stalk with a story


which has dominated the headlines this afternoon and this evening, the


Mark Duggan inquest. A lot of people I think are still, despite a lot of


analysis in the media, and I do not know why we have got that flooding


picture, scratching their heads, wondering how it can be that a jury


can find that this man did not have a gun at the time he was shot, and


yet he was lawfully shot. No, this is the conclusion of three months of


deliberation, that there has not been an unlawful killing verdict,


and as you said, he did not have a gun when he was shot, there was not


a gun in his hand, and yet, there has not been any punishment or


verdict of unlawful killing. As the family said tonight, there is no


justice and no peace. So, an attempt to draw a line under this matter has


left unanswered questions. This is not going to go away, and I wonder


whether it will though couple more tensions within Tottenham in the


coming weeks, as the implications of what has happened are played out.


Partly, John Kampfner, part of the reasoning in people's minds in terms


of understanding what is going on is because they do not trust the police


anyway. Yes, and the police have formed. There was the Jean Charles


de Menezes case the killing of Ian Tomlinson and others, and there is


the question not just of what happens, but in this case, there


seems to have been some question marks over the evidence come and the


placing of the minicab involved afterwards, and the role of the


supposedly independent police complaints commission. There are


still a lot of questions. It saddens everybody to say it, because any


healthy democracy needs, does not just want, it needs a police force


which is credible and which has universal trust across all


communities, and even if you look, a completely separate case, but the


Andrew Mitchell case, involving the former Conservative Cabinet


Minister, that threw up early different questions about the


credibility of the police. This is really a moment for all parties to


grapple with police process, as much as what happens after an incident,


regrettable as it is, about the killing of one person, but the whole


process of engagement before and after. Interestingly, tonight,


Bernard Hogan-Howe, the Met Commissioner, has come out and said,


in the future, firearms policemen will work cameras on them when they


go into these situations and incidents, so that there is video


evidence. There is a feeling I think within the police that in the case


of the Lee Rigby Woolwich murder, that because there was video


evidence, the public could see very clearly what happened and how the


police responded, and then you can have complete transparency. Whereas


this is a case where an eyewitness says, he was holding up a mobile


phone, the police said, we thought he was holding a gun. A gun emerges


in the grass, did he throw the gun, was the gun placed there? It is the


police's word against an eyewitness, and it does not give the family any


piece. Yes, officers wearing cameras is something which happens in a very


interesting report we have had this morning, where one US police officer


was cleared, exonerated, because the video footage really showed him give


a warning to the perpetrator, showed the perpetrator had a weapon, and


the officer fired. That God forbid, if our police ever became anything


close to the American gun culture, anybody who has ever been stopped


driving a car in America, hands on the steering wheel, it is a very


frightening, trigger-happy culture. The one silver lining on this or.


The is that people remember, they can name the people killed in


situations like this because it is so rare. I think the police want to


improve transparency. They clearly have gone away with unease as well


and recognised that really, there are still unanswered questions, and


are going to try to change the process going forward. If you look


at the figures for the last month,. And search in Tottenham and the


surrounding borough, 686 cases of stop and search, which is double the


month before, and apparently, if you are black, you are twice as likely


to be stopped as a white person. This is in the middle of a campaign


to ease stop and search. So, clearly, there are issues in dealing


with suspects in the Tottenham area, and clearly, a big problem, and a


big headache, in trying to improve police relations with the public.


There is also an issue about dealing with gun crime and with gangs, and a


note of sympathy for the police, they are dammed if they do and


dammed if they don't. Stop and search seems by any standards to be


an incredibly crude and invasive and publicly humiliating way of doing


it. It would be great if there was a better way of doing it, in which you


could really tackle gun crime and gang culture, that you have got to


get right into the heart of communities. You can only do that if


you have the trust of communities. Going onto the Daily Mail, mayhem at


the High Court... And moving on to the Daily


Telegraph... It is already becoming a bit


politicised. You have got different towns in the way the different in


the Daily Mail, he is a gangster. As John was saying, the political lines


are dividing here. You have got Diane Abbott, the London MP in


Hackney, who was branded irresponsible today, after she said,


if they believed he did not have a gun in his hand when he was shot,


how can they find it was a lawful killing? And David Lambie the MP for


Tottenham, also raised some questions. The Daily Mail, for all


what might -- one might think about the loose use of the term gangster,


we should not forget, that was the paper that went out on a limb over


the killing of Stephen Lawrence, and did not just go out on a limb


journalistically, in effect changed a verdict and changed procedures.


So, they have obviously done this advisory, put it that way. One other


point in terms of the Duggan family, immediately in the aftermath of his


death, the police did not go round to the house, his then girlfriend


had to go to his mother to get a birth certificate so she could prove


to the police that she knew him. You know, over two years, there must


have been this tension building up where the family feel like they


haven't been handled properly and then they have a verdict they


disagree with. That is potentially quite explosive. Just a side issue,


it is not just the police in this issue going to the press first.


There have been recent incidents where the CPS go to the police first


when it is a question of whether they prosecute somebody or not. You


would think you would heal with the people involved first, whether they


are victims, whether they are alleged perpetrators or whatever,


before you start releasing information. That is one of the


whole question around the leather is an inquiry. But that is for another


time. Indeed. Interestingly, a trick you see a lot in the United States,


prosecutors or whatever going to the press and setting out their stall


ahead of a trial. We are going to stick with the Telegraph and talk


about the coalition's legacy of rural harm, what is this about?


Well, depending on your point of view, it is about nimbyism all


legitimate concerns, if you live in the green belt, about rapacious


development destroying communities, etc. We have the potential blight,


or progress, depending on your point of view, of HS2, the high-speed link


between London and the Midlands in the North. We have questions about


wind farms. This is a senior figure in the Conservative Party, almost


telling the Telegraph what its readers want to hear, that those


people that live in the Home Counties are seriously worried about


increased planning permissions for building in the green belt. Is this


something that the coalition, or the conservative half of the coalition,


should be worried about in terms of the election coming up and their


core base, people in the countryside? This has been the kind


of hands off our land thing has been a long-running Telegraph campaign


ever since the Conservative led coalition set up what they call the


National planning policy framework. What this was was an attempt to take


hundreds of pages of planning regulation and streamline it, so you


can actually get more community development through. The big stress


for the Conservatives and the Lib Dems has been that this was not


about building on green belt. What he is suggesting is that developers


are getting clever barristers, etc, to kind of circumnavigate these


checks and balances. There is some argy-bargy. There is a housing stock


rises in the UK. 90% of the UK is not built on. George Osborne has


done a help to buy scheme and flooded the mortgage market with


money, so that people can buy homes. If we don't start building more


homes, we are just creating another housing bubble. Yes, the Tories


might have some problems in rural areas, with some voters who do not


like these plans. Not so much so that they are worried about not


doing it, because they recognise there is a bigger constituency of


people that need houses. Lets go on to the Guardian. A high-profile foot


wall has announced that he is gay. Thomas Hitzlsperger has told's he


was told a big wave would crush on him if he made his sexuality


public. There aren't actually many British or English footballers that


have come out, only two, Justin Fashanu and Robbie Rogers. The


suggestion is that there are many more and they fear coming out


because of repressionrepercussions. I find it strange that footballers


are scared of coming out as gay, when all of the polling shows that


young people don't actually care. Have you been on the football


terrace recently? That's the problem. And I met Chelsea


supporter! Is this a particular football issue, or a sport issue? We


had Tom Daley. He came out and that was OK. The odd rugby player, as


well. We have to leave it there. We will get to Splash at 11:30. Coming


up now is Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm


Olly Foster, these are our headlines tonight. Halfway to Wembley - City


hit West Ham for six in the League Cup semifinal first leg. Allardyce


could be on his last legs. That's 11 conceded in two matches for the


Hammers now. German


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