26/02/2014 The Papers


26/02/2014

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date. And when showbiz meets sport. One Direction's member makes his

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debut for Doncaster. Hello. Welcome to our look ahead to

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what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me is barrister

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Sophia Cannon and Martin Bentham of the London Evening Standard. Let's

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look at tomorrow morning's front pages. The Independent is leading on

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the crisis in Ukraine, saying Russia is now on a war footing. The

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Financial Times has the same top story, focusing on the stern

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response from the White House, warning Russia to respect Ukrainian

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territory. The Telegraph says couples will soon be able to draft

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their own route delivered a divorce settlement without going to court.

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The picture is of Lee Rigby's Sun and widow. Front page of the

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Guardian is dominated by pictures of thousands of people waiting for food

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and a Syrian refugee camp. The main stories on the scale domestic

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violence faced women and children in Britain. The Metro has the soldier

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Lee Rigby's picture, beside the headline for a life.

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The Express says that some of us may expect snow soon. It's on the way,

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folks. We are going to start with the Telegraph. The picture there of

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Lee Rigby, the soldiers brutally killed by two men in Woolwich. That

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is his wife and that is his son, there. The judge, handing down

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sentences today, Sofia. What is interesting, in his comments while

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sentencing, he referred to them as radical extremist spew espouse the

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cause and views which are a betrayal of Islam and of the peaceful Muslim

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communities that give so much to our country. That freaked them out. They

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completely lost it in the dock. They see themselves as the true

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inheritors of Islam? Indeed. I think Mr Justice Sweeney's comments were

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for the wider unity of this country. It is so easy, is it not, for this

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case to be appropriated by the far right, by those with a particular

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political purpose, to incite racial or religious hatred. Like the

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English Defence League? Indeed. It was repositioning Islam as a

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religion of peace, the fact that these two converts have put forward

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a perversion of Islam in such a dramatic way. It has to be quashed,

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here and now. It was exactly what the relatives and the front page of

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the Telegraph, having the wife and his son, it is what the family

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wanted? Absolutely. They could possibly have got a whole life term

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for both, but apart from that, the sentences are as low as possible,

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pretty much. I don't think either of them will ever emerge again. There

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has been a process, they have both faced justice. That is one fortunate

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thing, it sounds terrible word to use in this circumstance, but these

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two men wanted to die as martyrs. They are not going to die as

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martyrs, they have not been granted that privilege, they might see it,

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that glory, and so on. They are going to have to languish in prison

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for the rest of their lives, which is a very good thing. Indeed. OK, we

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are going to stay with the Telegraph as well. You could be out of a job,

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soon? DIY divorce is to cut lawyers' bills. Apparently there

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will be an online calculator, potentially, where couples can work

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out who owes what and how they should divide up their property, so

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on and so forth, to cut the bills of having to employ a lawyer to do

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that. Indeed. Commissioned report actually brings clarity and

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predictability we hope, to divorce, so that couples have an idea before

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they sit down, before they walk down the aisle, of course, to know is

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that a much they are going to pay if they do divorce. Notwithstanding the

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fact that we have now got several equal marriage. We now have gay

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marriage is coming in, equal marriage is coming into the frame

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here. We have more people wanting to get married and, indeed, more

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assets. And potentially more divorces. One wonders why this

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hasn't been done before. Because, unfortunately, it is not quite as

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simple as it might appear. They have spent two years, the Law

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Commission, looking at this. This formula they are talking about is

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something called in Canada the cookie cutter formula, where you

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can't delete it on the length of time you have been together,

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earnings, so on. Their role is also of occasions in the report. It says

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you get an idea beforehand what you might get out but it is a rough

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guide rather than a precise one that can be adjusted. You can have been

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actual agreements, but that can be overridden by the needs of children

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and different parties. There are still a lot of complexity, it is

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just a way of trying to make the broader framework of it clearer and

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simpler. There is always going to be, we call them the Call The

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Midwife wife, they have been married since the 50s, they are going to be

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seen differently by the legal process than the younger wife that

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has been married for a couple of years and there is no children. This

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is a good way of looking forward to how we can bring predict ability

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into the process of getting divorced. Is there a wider issue?

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I'm interested on your comments on this, being in the legal profession,

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is there a wider sense that the legal profession in this country has

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sat untouched for a long time? We have seen reform of the public

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services, the union is taking part off Not a Paul! We have seen banks

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taken to task. Is the legal profession finally being brought in

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from the cold? We are seeing changes to legal aid and that being cut, now

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this Law Commission, finally, this last Bastian is being modern eyes?

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We have always been modern. The sheer fact that I am here, on

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merit, means that the legal profession is one where you can be

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certain of getting the best. It does not matter if your barrister is

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young or old, whether that barrister is black or white, you have the best

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of the best, being presented in criminal or civil cases. But this

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actually goes back to the previous batch of legal aid cuts, which

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removed legal aid for divorce cases. Most people are going to have to

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sort it out at their own experience deliberate Spence. Most people don't

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want to pay legal bills and will find ways of avoiding that. It is

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potentially going to make prenuptial agreements legally binding, which

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again cuts you folk out? The But who is going to draft them? I am a

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former law student myself, I think you are as well? No? Not at all.

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There is a sense that you guys have had it too easy for too long? The

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whole idea of fat cat barristers is a myth. Many, many barristers, up

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and down the country, are working for ?30 a day, even. You need to be

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aware of that, that if you are arrested, late at night, God, you

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hope, you hope that the barrister that attends you next morning is

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someone who has the idea of how to protect you without fear or favour.

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Not working in their wallet first. I have been well and truly slapped

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down. If I am arrested in the middle of the night, I am calling you. That

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go on to the Independent, Ukraine, Vladimir Putin puts Russia on a war

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footing. Sabre rattling from Moscow, but are they likely to cross the

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border? One would think not, but who knows? It's impossible to read. It

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would seem to be, as you have said, sabre rattling, Russia wanted to

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assert its authority and not be shut out of this whole debate, protect

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the Russian minority in the country and the areas in which, Crimea being

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one, where there is a Russian majority. There are a lot of Russian

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citizens living in Ukraine in general. Clearly, Vladimir Putin is

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wanting to assert himself, wanting to have the Russian viewpoint taken

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into consideration to protect its citizens. Whether it leads to

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anything more, I would doubt. But then, you can read what he... That's

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it, he went to war in 2008, he marched into Georgia. There is

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formed Indeed. We have to ask ourselves, are we looking at the

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second premiere in war? The iron curtain has moved east, from Warsaw

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to hear. The aspirations of its people have moved west. I don't

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think we'll be involved, this time! The Crimean War without us, we

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sincerely hope. The Guardian, 10,000 at risk of domestic violence? This

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is where legal aid comes in and you're going to need a barrister to

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represent you on either side of the domestic violence. If you falsely

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accused, or if you are suffering from domestic violence. The problem

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is that legal aid is available to women men who have suffered domestic

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violence. But it is a hard test to prove. Many solicitors are finding

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it extremely difficult to obtain legal aid funding for their

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clients. And their clients are having to attend, on their own, in

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court, before a judge, when they are alleging domestic violence. This

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story, it is talking about the sheer scale of it. 10,000 living in risk?

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It is based on police assessments, one of the points it makes in the

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story, perhaps understandable, though not as I report, is that

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there is a great variation in the way that different forces assess

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things. Perhaps that is inevitable, it shouldn't be the case in a

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theoretical world, but perhaps it is inevitable, as with lots of crime

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statistics. Sussex, 211 women at high risk of homicide or serious

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harm, in Surrey 17, in the Metropolitan Police area, a very big

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one, 87, apparently. So, you can see the different ways of calculating,

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in itself, are very varied. That raises a question as well. If men

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were dying at the rate that women were dying, one`and`a`half a week...

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As a result of domestic violence? There would have been a Royal

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Commission by now. It is not just that these are random women. They

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are identifiable women. It is predictable. They have raised the

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red flags already and they have come to the notice of their police

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forces, or social service departments, and they are still

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dying. I'm not sure what a Royal Commission would achieve myself.

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There are a lot of people in this position. On the other hand, how you

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pick out ` there are cases here ` there is one here that a jury has

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found in the case in Sussex that the police and CPS failed to take steps

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that would have prevented a woman's death and so on. There are cases and

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there are some very bad cases of that sort. I don't think it is (a)

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the authorities are not trying to do the right thing ` and sometimes with

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hindsight these things can look very easy. I'm not sure what a talking

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shop would achieve. It is not a talking shop. It is to look at the

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magnitude of how many women are dying in these circumstances that

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are predictable. That is the thing we will need to note, they are

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predictable, identifiable, what are we doing about it? The implications

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for society for having children who die at the ` women and children who

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die at the hands of their fathers is an ongoing issue. It is going to

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damage society. Right. OK. We will very briefly ` we will skip the

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Telegraph, or The Financial Times. We will go to the Telegraph Business

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Section. Ryanair is pledging New York flights for ten euros. How can

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they afford to do that? They have to buy the long`haul aircraft that they

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need! So this is years down the road, right? That's the immediate

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catch! Damn! I was looking forward to Thanksgiving in New York! They

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are going to have certain business and first`class seats in there which

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will be an unusual thing. Yes. That would subsidise... The other thing

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is how many seats would be sold at this price? It might be one on each

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flight. Yes. Is he going to charge you every step you walk up the steps

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so that by the time you get on the plane, your ticket is... It is a new

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fun Ryanair now(!) Their profits are down so they are changing all that.

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I'm not convinced yet. Alright. You wait to be convinced. You will be

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back in an hour's time to look at more of the stories behind the

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headlines. Stay with us on BBC News because at the top of the hour, we

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will hear the latest from Northern Ireland and the First Minister

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there, Peter Robinson, who is warning prosecutions could still be

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made against those who have received letters of assurance from the

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Government that they won't be prosecuted. Stay with us for that.

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