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24/03/2014

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Neil Warnock turns down the chance to manage Nottingham Forest and we

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will round up some eye`catching results from the Twenty20 in

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Bangladesh. Hello, welcome to our lookahead at

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what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow with Alex Barrow and Jennie

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Bond. We are going to start with the Independent. We have a picture of a

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grieving relative of one of the passengers from that missing plane.

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The Guardian also has a graphic image on its front page. It says the

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families have accused the government of delays and a cover`up over the

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fate of the aircraft. The Mirror's take is that the missing plane

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victims are 23,000 feet under the sea. The headline in the Express

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says, terror aboard doomed flight. Experts reveal nightmare final

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moment. The Telegraph is speculative because the crash was a suicide

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mission, their headline is flight MH370 suicide mission. The Times

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bucks the trend with that story and says it has a crisis on the Ukraine

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that is the most important. The headline is Vladimir Putin frozen

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out. The Daily Mail says that the PM will act on death taxes. We are

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going to start with the news that it is highly likely, beyond reasonable

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doubt, that this plane, missing for 17 days, crashed into the sea. The

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front page of the Guardian, a distraught relative of one of those

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odd ward, showing the emotional today's offence? Graphic images, we

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have seen them all day. Grief and anger. The Guardian is saying it is

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the end of hope. I wonder if it is. One of them I have seen quoted as

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saying, no wreckage, no closure. Until there is proof, beyond the

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Malaysian government saying it was assumed to have crashed, there will

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still be that wisp. You want to cling on if you are a relative?

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Absolutely. The anger is coming through in a strong statement issued

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to the Malaysian government. They accused the government of

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continually delaying, hiding and covering the facts, attempting to

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deceive the whole world. A huge amount of anger amongst those

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relatives. That is what grief can do to you, isn't it? It's difficult to

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perhaps take on board what anyone will tell you in relation to the

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possibility that your loved one has died, unless you literally can see

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the body in front of you. I think for the loved ones, yes, for the

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last two weeks they have been clinging to this idea that somehow

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the jet is parked in a airfield somewhere in a desert in Kazakhstan.

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We know that is not the case now. The Malaysian authorities, I think

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some of the criticism has been unfair. It seems to me, I watched

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the Prime Minister's statement, he was quite measured. They have waited

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until the point where they can make a definitive judgement about whether

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it was certain beyond reasonable doubt that this plane had crashed in

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the Indian Ocean. When there were able to say that, they did it. It

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was late at night, their time. It is the end of hope, in the sense that

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the relatives are not coming back. But, of course, now they have this

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interminable wait to find out what happened. They will come to hope

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until there is physical evidence. Also, there will be the guilt, they

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will feel such guilt that they have not been able, themselves, to find

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their loved one. I would. Maybe there is a desert island that nobody

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knows about, and he is still sitting there. I'm not sure about that. We

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are talking about somebody that has gone through an experience that we

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haven't, so I don't know. That is, of course, what the papers are

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doing, they are all putting themselves in the minds of the

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passengers, talking about how they felt. A world of speculation, I'm

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afraid, still. That's the interesting thing, if we look at the

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front page of the Independent, another picture of a grieving

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relative. Beyond hope, families told to accept that flight MH370 crashed

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into the ocean. There have been delays in getting information out

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over the last 17 days. It has been the impression that the Malaysians

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haven't really been on top of the whole situation. That has fed into

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this disbelief now that, actually, OK, they are saying that they

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think, beyond reasonable doubt, that the plane did ditch into the sea.

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But I still need to see the proof, that is where the doubts have come

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from? We have seen the satellite pictures starting to show some

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proof. What was interesting about today is that we heard there was

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going to be an announcement. I think the assumption, to begin with, was

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that they have now seen another satellite photos of wreckage to draw

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a conclusion on the basis of that. But it wasn't that at all. The

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Malaysian Prime Minister based his statement entirely on the data

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produced by this British satellite communications firm that has been

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analysing the ping data in a way that has never been done before,

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that has allowed them, scientifically, to say it is beyond

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reasonable doubt. Perhaps they could have got this earlier. Some of the

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relatives were saying if they released the information faster,

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they could focus the search on the Indian Ocean earlier. If the

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authorities put out information before they are certain, they get

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criticised for that as well. I'm not convinced, on what I've read of this

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story, that all of those criticisms of the Malaysian authorities are

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well founded. Sure, but, again, we are not one of those relatives that

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has been waiting 17 days and getting little drips of information. That is

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their perception of it and who are we to question these suffering

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families? Onto the front of the Daily Telegraph, of course, they

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have pinpointed off well, not even pinpointed, they have found an area

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where they think the plane may have crashed. An area the size of the

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North Sea, so they still have a long way to go before they can find any

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wreckage. While there is no wreckage, it is much more difficult

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to try and work out why the plane actually crashed. As a result, that

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void is going to be filled with speculation. And the Telegraph

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reckons it is a suicide mission? Yes, but I don't think it is backed

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up at all. We have the headline, suicide mission, but reading it I do

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not see what they are basing it on. They say the team investigating it

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say that it was flown in a rational way, despite the fact they also say

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it veered wildly off course. But it veered in a rational way. But they

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say that nothing is emerging that points to motive, according to an

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official source. I don't see where we'd did use from that but it was a

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suicide mission. I suppose it didn't suddenly turn left, you know, it was

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an arc that target there. So it was done in a controlled manner. Well,

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they say it veered wildly of course. Well, in the sense that it went that

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way, but it did not do it in a irrational way. The suggestion is

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from the latest satellite information that it did not... That

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it stayed constant at an altitude of 30,000 feet for quite a long time.

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Which suggests it was on autopilot or being physically controlled. I

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think that suggests that there was not a sermon catastrophic mechanical

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malfunction or something like that. I think that is the argument. It is

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sourced to an official in Malaysia. It is interesting, if you look at

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the papers today on this story, some of them have done it in a reasonably

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straightway and others have been Waterloo `` more lurid. As Jenny

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says Connie get to end and you say, where is this information? We don't

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know what this sources, is he the chief of aviation or somebody in the

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office that does the photocopying? We are all talking about what may

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have happened. One little and new fact I hadn't heard, they say for

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the first time it was revealed that the co`pilot, this was his first

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flight on a 777 as an approved pilot, what we can conclude from

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that, I don't know, apart from that he was relatively inexperienced. The

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Malaysian authorities have been criticised a great deal. Another

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insensitive little error in that last night, they said that their

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prayers went out all of the loved ones of the 226 passengers and of

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our 13 friends and colleagues. The manifest shows it was different and

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37. A small point, but careless. `` 237. Terror aboard doomed flight.

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Experts reveal nightmare final moments. How on earth they would

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know. Again, supposition. If it looks like you are heading down, it

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is bound to be... Professionally, I have to admire the headline, a

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terrific headline, who would not want to read a paper with a headline

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like that? Almost every word of the story could have been written about

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a week ago, it is entirely supposition. Telegraph supposition

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was at least sourced by somebody they have at least spoken to, I'm

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sure, he presented them an honest belief of what he thinks. This

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story, as I say, a cracking read, but it is virtually useless. Still,

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a great headline from the Express. Let's go on to the Telegraph. We are

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going back to the Telegraph. An interesting story. Cash in your pot

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and is maybe liable for care. We had the budget last Wednesday, which

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suggested that now you don't necessarily have to buy an annuity,

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you can take all of your pension money out at a cost, but a lot less

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than it used to be and you can do what you like with it? Indeed and

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pensioners are mostly very happy about that. This has given us a

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great deal to think about, me being a pensioner myself. Are you spending

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your money on a Lamborghini? I hope you have one already! It is a BBC

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pension. You will be buying next to nothing! You do think quite hard

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about what you are going to do with your resources. One aspect I had not

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thought about is if you take it all out and need care in your later

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years, the Government is saying they might take that into account now,

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and it could push you over their new limit, which is if you have assets

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over ?118,000 then you cannot get any help with your care. So people

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are going to have to think very hard. If you do blow it all on a

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Lamborghini, with the Government takes that into account? I don't

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think they would requisition a Lamborghini but I don't know what

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counts as an asset. What is an asset? If it is money sitting in a

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bank account, which it might be if you cashed in your pension pot and

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had not bought an annuity, and this came up at the Q that David

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Cameron was doing with an audience of pensioners, and they were very on

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the ball. They put it to him, what will happen if we need care? And he

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rather defensively had to admit that of course that will be a factor. If

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you have a Lamborghini parked outside your care home, your care

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will be fine! This is the way I shall go. Briefly, it is there a

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sense that as you look into the nitty`gritty of this policy, which

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was applauded by lots of people, and it seems that the Labour Party will

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back it as well, that these problems will start to pop up in the fine

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detail? Yes, we will get much more of this. It is a big area and hugely

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congregated. This was a policy that was announced out of the blue

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without consultation. The norm is to consult for years and years of

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changes like this. Another one coming down the track is what it

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will do for property prices. Some people take their pension pot out

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instead of buying an annuity, and they might buy a buy to let or home

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for their kids, which means money flooding into the property market,

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so are they going to do about that? You will be back in half an hour for

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another look at the stories behind the headlines. An BBC News at the

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top of the hour we will have more on the Malaysia Airlines aeroplane now

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seems to have crashed with everybody on board being lost. Now it is time

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for Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm

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Katie Gornall. Coming up: Arsenal successfully appeal Marriner's

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mix`up. Alex Oxlaide`Chamberlain and Keiran Gibbs have both escaped

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punishment. Neil Warnock turns down the chance

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to replace Billy Davies at Nottingham

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