24/03/2014 The Papers


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Neil Warnock turns down the chance to manage Nottingham Forest and we


will round up some eye`catching results from the Twenty20 in


Bangladesh. Hello, welcome to our lookahead at


what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow with Alex Barrow and Jennie


Bond. We are going to start with the Independent. We have a picture of a


grieving relative of one of the passengers from that missing plane.


The Guardian also has a graphic image on its front page. It says the


families have accused the government of delays and a cover`up over the


fate of the aircraft. The Mirror's take is that the missing plane


victims are 23,000 feet under the sea. The headline in the Express


says, terror aboard doomed flight. Experts reveal nightmare final


moment. The Telegraph is speculative because the crash was a suicide


mission, their headline is flight MH370 suicide mission. The Times


bucks the trend with that story and says it has a crisis on the Ukraine


that is the most important. The headline is Vladimir Putin frozen


out. The Daily Mail says that the PM will act on death taxes. We are


going to start with the news that it is highly likely, beyond reasonable


doubt, that this plane, missing for 17 days, crashed into the sea. The


front page of the Guardian, a distraught relative of one of those


odd ward, showing the emotional today's offence? Graphic images, we


have seen them all day. Grief and anger. The Guardian is saying it is


the end of hope. I wonder if it is. One of them I have seen quoted as


saying, no wreckage, no closure. Until there is proof, beyond the


Malaysian government saying it was assumed to have crashed, there will


still be that wisp. You want to cling on if you are a relative?


Absolutely. The anger is coming through in a strong statement issued


to the Malaysian government. They accused the government of


continually delaying, hiding and covering the facts, attempting to


deceive the whole world. A huge amount of anger amongst those


relatives. That is what grief can do to you, isn't it? It's difficult to


perhaps take on board what anyone will tell you in relation to the


possibility that your loved one has died, unless you literally can see


the body in front of you. I think for the loved ones, yes, for the


last two weeks they have been clinging to this idea that somehow


the jet is parked in a airfield somewhere in a desert in Kazakhstan.


We know that is not the case now. The Malaysian authorities, I think


some of the criticism has been unfair. It seems to me, I watched


the Prime Minister's statement, he was quite measured. They have waited


until the point where they can make a definitive judgement about whether


it was certain beyond reasonable doubt that this plane had crashed in


the Indian Ocean. When there were able to say that, they did it. It


was late at night, their time. It is the end of hope, in the sense that


the relatives are not coming back. But, of course, now they have this


interminable wait to find out what happened. They will come to hope


until there is physical evidence. Also, there will be the guilt, they


will feel such guilt that they have not been able, themselves, to find


their loved one. I would. Maybe there is a desert island that nobody


knows about, and he is still sitting there. I'm not sure about that. We


are talking about somebody that has gone through an experience that we


haven't, so I don't know. That is, of course, what the papers are


doing, they are all putting themselves in the minds of the


passengers, talking about how they felt. A world of speculation, I'm


afraid, still. That's the interesting thing, if we look at the


front page of the Independent, another picture of a grieving


relative. Beyond hope, families told to accept that flight MH370 crashed


into the ocean. There have been delays in getting information out


over the last 17 days. It has been the impression that the Malaysians


haven't really been on top of the whole situation. That has fed into


this disbelief now that, actually, OK, they are saying that they


think, beyond reasonable doubt, that the plane did ditch into the sea.


But I still need to see the proof, that is where the doubts have come


from? We have seen the satellite pictures starting to show some


proof. What was interesting about today is that we heard there was


going to be an announcement. I think the assumption, to begin with, was


that they have now seen another satellite photos of wreckage to draw


a conclusion on the basis of that. But it wasn't that at all. The


Malaysian Prime Minister based his statement entirely on the data


produced by this British satellite communications firm that has been


analysing the ping data in a way that has never been done before,


that has allowed them, scientifically, to say it is beyond


reasonable doubt. Perhaps they could have got this earlier. Some of the


relatives were saying if they released the information faster,


they could focus the search on the Indian Ocean earlier. If the


authorities put out information before they are certain, they get


criticised for that as well. I'm not convinced, on what I've read of this


story, that all of those criticisms of the Malaysian authorities are


well founded. Sure, but, again, we are not one of those relatives that


has been waiting 17 days and getting little drips of information. That is


their perception of it and who are we to question these suffering


families? Onto the front of the Daily Telegraph, of course, they


have pinpointed off well, not even pinpointed, they have found an area


where they think the plane may have crashed. An area the size of the


North Sea, so they still have a long way to go before they can find any


wreckage. While there is no wreckage, it is much more difficult


to try and work out why the plane actually crashed. As a result, that


void is going to be filled with speculation. And the Telegraph


reckons it is a suicide mission? Yes, but I don't think it is backed


up at all. We have the headline, suicide mission, but reading it I do


not see what they are basing it on. They say the team investigating it


say that it was flown in a rational way, despite the fact they also say


it veered wildly off course. But it veered in a rational way. But they


say that nothing is emerging that points to motive, according to an


official source. I don't see where we'd did use from that but it was a


suicide mission. I suppose it didn't suddenly turn left, you know, it was


an arc that target there. So it was done in a controlled manner. Well,


they say it veered wildly of course. Well, in the sense that it went that


way, but it did not do it in a irrational way. The suggestion is


from the latest satellite information that it did not... That


it stayed constant at an altitude of 30,000 feet for quite a long time.


Which suggests it was on autopilot or being physically controlled. I


think that suggests that there was not a sermon catastrophic mechanical


malfunction or something like that. I think that is the argument. It is


sourced to an official in Malaysia. It is interesting, if you look at


the papers today on this story, some of them have done it in a reasonably


straightway and others have been Waterloo `` more lurid. As Jenny


says Connie get to end and you say, where is this information? We don't


know what this sources, is he the chief of aviation or somebody in the


office that does the photocopying? We are all talking about what may


have happened. One little and new fact I hadn't heard, they say for


the first time it was revealed that the co`pilot, this was his first


flight on a 777 as an approved pilot, what we can conclude from


that, I don't know, apart from that he was relatively inexperienced. The


Malaysian authorities have been criticised a great deal. Another


insensitive little error in that last night, they said that their


prayers went out all of the loved ones of the 226 passengers and of


our 13 friends and colleagues. The manifest shows it was different and


37. A small point, but careless. `` 237. Terror aboard doomed flight.


Experts reveal nightmare final moments. How on earth they would


know. Again, supposition. If it looks like you are heading down, it


is bound to be... Professionally, I have to admire the headline, a


terrific headline, who would not want to read a paper with a headline


like that? Almost every word of the story could have been written about


a week ago, it is entirely supposition. Telegraph supposition


was at least sourced by somebody they have at least spoken to, I'm


sure, he presented them an honest belief of what he thinks. This


story, as I say, a cracking read, but it is virtually useless. Still,


a great headline from the Express. Let's go on to the Telegraph. We are


going back to the Telegraph. An interesting story. Cash in your pot


and is maybe liable for care. We had the budget last Wednesday, which


suggested that now you don't necessarily have to buy an annuity,


you can take all of your pension money out at a cost, but a lot less


than it used to be and you can do what you like with it? Indeed and


pensioners are mostly very happy about that. This has given us a


great deal to think about, me being a pensioner myself. Are you spending


your money on a Lamborghini? I hope you have one already! It is a BBC


pension. You will be buying next to nothing! You do think quite hard


about what you are going to do with your resources. One aspect I had not


thought about is if you take it all out and need care in your later


years, the Government is saying they might take that into account now,


and it could push you over their new limit, which is if you have assets


over ?118,000 then you cannot get any help with your care. So people


are going to have to think very hard. If you do blow it all on a


Lamborghini, with the Government takes that into account? I don't


think they would requisition a Lamborghini but I don't know what


counts as an asset. What is an asset? If it is money sitting in a


bank account, which it might be if you cashed in your pension pot and


had not bought an annuity, and this came up at the Q that David


Cameron was doing with an audience of pensioners, and they were very on


the ball. They put it to him, what will happen if we need care? And he


rather defensively had to admit that of course that will be a factor. If


you have a Lamborghini parked outside your care home, your care


will be fine! This is the way I shall go. Briefly, it is there a


sense that as you look into the nitty`gritty of this policy, which


was applauded by lots of people, and it seems that the Labour Party will


back it as well, that these problems will start to pop up in the fine


detail? Yes, we will get much more of this. It is a big area and hugely


congregated. This was a policy that was announced out of the blue


without consultation. The norm is to consult for years and years of


changes like this. Another one coming down the track is what it


will do for property prices. Some people take their pension pot out


instead of buying an annuity, and they might buy a buy to let or home


for their kids, which means money flooding into the property market,


so are they going to do about that? You will be back in half an hour for


another look at the stories behind the headlines. An BBC News at the


top of the hour we will have more on the Malaysia Airlines aeroplane now


seems to have crashed with everybody on board being lost. Now it is time


for Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm


Katie Gornall. Coming up: Arsenal successfully appeal Marriner's


mix`up. Alex Oxlaide`Chamberlain and Keiran Gibbs have both escaped


punishment. Neil Warnock turns down the chance


to replace Billy Davies at Nottingham


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