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investigation. As the British swimming Championships come to a

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close, we will round up another record`breaking day in Glasgow. That

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is in 15 minutes after the papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are Oliver

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Wright, Whitehall editor at The Independent, and Elizabeth Orcutt,

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deputy picture editor at The Times. The Metro is leading on a report by

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the UN which has branded Britain are sexist boys club. The Independent is

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focusing on a report by a food bank charity reclaims nearly a million

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people in Britain rely on hand`outs to eat. The growing number of those

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depending on food parcels in the UK is also the splash on the front of

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the daily Mirror. On the Guardian, the crisis in the Ukraine which the

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paper says is on the brink of a major conflict. The main photograph

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on the front of the Daily Telegraph is of tanks sent to battle

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pro`Russian separatists in the east of the country. The main story

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however is looking at the health service which it says is at breaking

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point. In the Daily Mirror, an amazing photograph on the front of

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this. Elizabeth, it is good that you happen to be in tonight, given some

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of the interesting pictures we have got. Britain 2014, we are the sixth

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largest economy in the world, more millionaires than ever before, so

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why have we handed out 1 million food parcels? Would you have picked

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this photograph for the Times? Probably not so they have done some

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research on focused on the distress of a child in order to punch the

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story out. No, not on the front, definitely not. It is arresting, it

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will attract... It does look incredible, you're right, it is

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arresting. I suppose the next question is, is that a real child in

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distress? It is a model release picture, so whether it is an actual

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crying child or whether it is a model child that is crying, I

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couldn't tell you. So it is a model released child? Yes, I don't know if

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it is an actor but the situation the child is in, the consenting adult

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has agreed for this situation to happen. We can compare that actually

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with the front page of the Independent. That is the same story

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about food parcels and food banks, and a very different tack. On the

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right, food poverty ` the scandal that shames Britain. Oliver, this is

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your paper. No photograph, just text. Does that grab a potential

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buyer the same way the Daily Mirror doors? I think we are in a different

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market! What we try to do on this front page is, we have the most

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important story of the day, the food poverty, but we also want to tell

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people about Ukraine which is incredibly important as well. You

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try to put a mixture of different types of stories so that somebody

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looks at the news stand and says I am interested in that and that, I

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will go for this. The Daily Mirror have gone for one image which stands

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out. Clearly there are some times when you want to give up your entire

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page to one from story because it is that important. This is one which is

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important but not one that you would clear your front page to run on.

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Nearly a million people now rely on hand`outs to eat. One thing is for

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sure, it is not the kind of image George Osborne once on the front

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page. The Conservatives are saying everything is getting better, we are

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back on our feet, this belies that. The Conservatives might argue we

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have had a lot of publicity about food banks, publicity about it rises

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so usage goes up, but going from 600,000 relying on them last year to

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nearly a million this year, purely down to publicity? I doubt it. It is

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a big story and two papers have decided to go with it. Is it the

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kind of story that perhaps a right of centre paper, the Times, your

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paper, should be looking at too? Yes, but not for the front page

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necessarily. It is something that is going to become more and more

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prominent I suppose, that section of society that perhaps has not

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benefited from all the facts and figures suggesting that the economy

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is doing well. It is going to be the battle ground for the next election,

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isn't it? I think part of the problem, I guess, is that the

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benefits system is changing so some people are moving from one type of

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benefit to another and we know how efficient the Department of work and

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pensions is on moving people from one type of benefit. It might only

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be for a week, only for two weeks, but just imagine if you don't know

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where you are going to get food for money from. This is a real problem

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and we are seeing perhaps a more divided society then we have seen

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before. I think it is a very significant issue and you have also

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got the Coalition of churches writing another letter. You have got

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600 Church leaders raising this and it is a problem they feel strongly

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about. They are seeing it in their communities and I think it will be

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an issue at the next election. Oliver, you mentioned the fact you

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have also got the Ukraine on the front page. Gunships take the crisis

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closer to all`out war. Clearly the situation there is getting

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potentially more and more desperate. Yes, day after day, it looks more

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grim. I wonder to what extent that Russia, I mean a lot of people are

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whipping this up but Russia wants to intervene in Ukraine, I'm not

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convinced that in terms of troops they do want to get involved, for a

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whole series of reason. Some of them geographical, also because it is a

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complete mess. What is problematic is that you have 35% of the

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population in eastern Ukraine who see themselves primarily as

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Russians. You have seen it in other cases, in the Balkans, but the

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potential for some type of Civil War is huge. No one is trying to ratchet

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down the pressure is the difficulty at the moment. Everyone, including

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William Hague yesterday, was not exactly doing his best to calm

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things down. The Russians are whipping it up, the Ukrainians

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themselves, and it is difficult to see where a negotiated settlement

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comes. The Ukrainians are saying they have to restore law and order,

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they have to be seen as not as important as they work in Crimea,

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but at the same time they are trying to proceed with a testament ``

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certain amount of caution that is not going to upset Moscow enough to

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send in troops. Absolutely. You have got troops on the border coming in,

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you have got the pro`Russians taking over the Government buildings and

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you are in this situation of stand`off. What is going to happen

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next? Will it reach a flash point, or will it gradually ebbed away and

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we will end up with a negotiated settlement? Where this will go seems

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to be open, completely open to me. The daily Telegraph has a different

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picture again to the independent summing up the same story. Tanks,

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Elizabeth. The Ukraine sends in the tanks and one wonders what President

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Obama's next move will be if there is a clear sign that the Russians

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are going to moving en masse. Quite. Is he going to fly over and bomb it?

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I have no idea. They have made it clear that military action is

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probably off the table. The suggestion is that sanctions will

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have to be ratcheted up again and that would make things even more

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difficult. And it will hurt us in the UK. It is not a one`way street.

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If you just look at London and the large amount of Russian money in

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London, invested in London, any attempt to choke that will have

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severe economic consequences for us trust. Your point earlier was

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fascinating, the two different images, one in the Independent and

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one in the Telegraph, and the one in the Telegraph is particularly

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striking. It really brings it home to you. It does, we think the

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picture was probably taken yesterday. Certainly when I got up

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this morning, I was looking for pictures of tanks and we couldn't

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find them but this is dated from yesterday so it has obviously been

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brewing quietly for a good 48 hours. I suspect over the next few days you

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will be able to take photographs for a number of days to illustrate the

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story. The Telegraph, hospital bed shortage. UK has second lowest

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number of beds per person in Europe. Yes, but the percentages, they don't

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seem enormous, do they? I can't remember what it was. 78% was the

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OECD average and we were 84%. That's not massive. If you are running an

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organisation that costs all these billions, which the NHS does, you

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want good occupiesancy. I am not completely convinced that's

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disastrous. OK. Again this is going to be ` the NHS and the state of the

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NHS as we get closer to the election, these are going to be the

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stories we are going to see more of. Labour are going to push this sort

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of thing. Elizabeth is absolutely right. Having high occupiesancy is

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not necessarily a bad thing and keeping people out of hospital is

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not necessarily a bad thing. To be fair to this Government it has a

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policy that pursued pretty much since 2001 to reduce the number of

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beds, to cut the length of time people spend in hospital, the more

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chance you have of getting some infection, because they're not great

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places for that even with all the precautions. The idea should be to

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keep people out of hospital, 50,000 beds have come out since 2001. The

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rates are something you manage, you want high occupiesancy rates.

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Hospital bed shortage exposed is not necessarily fair or accurate in

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terms of the situation. The man from the independent, the woman from The

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Times, you slagged off The Telegraph there! Let's go on to The Guardian.

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The picture is of the memorial service at Anfield for those who

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died at Hillsborough. The text very small at the bottom there. The

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photograph says it all really. It does. Not a dry eye in the house.

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One completely understands why. The tragedy is it's 25 years on and the

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distress is still there. It's absolutely right that as papers we

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mark that and we respect their grief. Sure. The Metro has marked it

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with a photograph that you need to read the text to understand what

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that is about. The two pictures on the front pages there side by side.

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On the right ` what is that on the? I am not sure. It was inscribed with

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the name of each victim. Whoever choose that picture, Elizabeth will

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know better than me, thought it was a clever picture with the fans in

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the background and this in the foreground. To be honest you have to

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look carefully. The Guardian... It's more straightforward and

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straightaway it hits you the power of it. You wouldn't have picked that

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front page? I certainly wouldn't have put it in that picture box. It

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seems to be about the ` the event is about the people and coming together

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of the people. The people in the picture are out of focus and they're

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not foregrounded by this image. I am sure that the ring of light is a

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beautiful thing and we moving but the image and the way it's cropped

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you can't see what it is. It's a shame. Even Stephen Gerrard on the

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left there, you can't tell who it is. I don't think it's quite worked,

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sadly. All right, you will be back in an hour's time to look at more

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stories behind the headlines. Stay with us here on BBC news, at the top

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of the hour we will have much more on the situation in Ukraine. Very

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tense on the ground as the Ukrainian Government sends forces in to take

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on pro`Russian militants. Now it's time for Sportsday.

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