15/04/2014 The Papers


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investigation. As the British swimming Championships come to a


close, we will round up another record`breaking day in Glasgow. That


is in 15 minutes after the papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead


to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are Oliver


Wright, Whitehall editor at The Independent, and Elizabeth Orcutt,


deputy picture editor at The Times. The Metro is leading on a report by


the UN which has branded Britain are sexist boys club. The Independent is


focusing on a report by a food bank charity reclaims nearly a million


people in Britain rely on hand`outs to eat. The growing number of those


depending on food parcels in the UK is also the splash on the front of


the daily Mirror. On the Guardian, the crisis in the Ukraine which the


paper says is on the brink of a major conflict. The main photograph


on the front of the Daily Telegraph is of tanks sent to battle


pro`Russian separatists in the east of the country. The main story


however is looking at the health service which it says is at breaking


point. In the Daily Mirror, an amazing photograph on the front of


this. Elizabeth, it is good that you happen to be in tonight, given some


of the interesting pictures we have got. Britain 2014, we are the sixth


largest economy in the world, more millionaires than ever before, so


why have we handed out 1 million food parcels? Would you have picked


this photograph for the Times? Probably not so they have done some


research on focused on the distress of a child in order to punch the


story out. No, not on the front, definitely not. It is arresting, it


will attract... It does look incredible, you're right, it is


arresting. I suppose the next question is, is that a real child in


distress? It is a model release picture, so whether it is an actual


crying child or whether it is a model child that is crying, I


couldn't tell you. So it is a model released child? Yes, I don't know if


it is an actor but the situation the child is in, the consenting adult


has agreed for this situation to happen. We can compare that actually


with the front page of the Independent. That is the same story


about food parcels and food banks, and a very different tack. On the


right, food poverty ` the scandal that shames Britain. Oliver, this is


your paper. No photograph, just text. Does that grab a potential


buyer the same way the Daily Mirror doors? I think we are in a different


market! What we try to do on this front page is, we have the most


important story of the day, the food poverty, but we also want to tell


people about Ukraine which is incredibly important as well. You


try to put a mixture of different types of stories so that somebody


looks at the news stand and says I am interested in that and that, I


will go for this. The Daily Mirror have gone for one image which stands


out. Clearly there are some times when you want to give up your entire


page to one from story because it is that important. This is one which is


important but not one that you would clear your front page to run on.


Nearly a million people now rely on hand`outs to eat. One thing is for


sure, it is not the kind of image George Osborne once on the front


page. The Conservatives are saying everything is getting better, we are


back on our feet, this belies that. The Conservatives might argue we


have had a lot of publicity about food banks, publicity about it rises


so usage goes up, but going from 600,000 relying on them last year to


nearly a million this year, purely down to publicity? I doubt it. It is


a big story and two papers have decided to go with it. Is it the


kind of story that perhaps a right of centre paper, the Times, your


paper, should be looking at too? Yes, but not for the front page


necessarily. It is something that is going to become more and more


prominent I suppose, that section of society that perhaps has not


benefited from all the facts and figures suggesting that the economy


is doing well. It is going to be the battle ground for the next election,


isn't it? I think part of the problem, I guess, is that the


benefits system is changing so some people are moving from one type of


benefit to another and we know how efficient the Department of work and


pensions is on moving people from one type of benefit. It might only


be for a week, only for two weeks, but just imagine if you don't know


where you are going to get food for money from. This is a real problem


and we are seeing perhaps a more divided society then we have seen


before. I think it is a very significant issue and you have also


got the Coalition of churches writing another letter. You have got


600 Church leaders raising this and it is a problem they feel strongly


about. They are seeing it in their communities and I think it will be


an issue at the next election. Oliver, you mentioned the fact you


have also got the Ukraine on the front page. Gunships take the crisis


closer to all`out war. Clearly the situation there is getting


potentially more and more desperate. Yes, day after day, it looks more


grim. I wonder to what extent that Russia, I mean a lot of people are


whipping this up but Russia wants to intervene in Ukraine, I'm not


convinced that in terms of troops they do want to get involved, for a


whole series of reason. Some of them geographical, also because it is a


complete mess. What is problematic is that you have 35% of the


population in eastern Ukraine who see themselves primarily as


Russians. You have seen it in other cases, in the Balkans, but the


potential for some type of Civil War is huge. No one is trying to ratchet


down the pressure is the difficulty at the moment. Everyone, including


William Hague yesterday, was not exactly doing his best to calm


things down. The Russians are whipping it up, the Ukrainians


themselves, and it is difficult to see where a negotiated settlement


comes. The Ukrainians are saying they have to restore law and order,


they have to be seen as not as important as they work in Crimea,


but at the same time they are trying to proceed with a testament ``


certain amount of caution that is not going to upset Moscow enough to


send in troops. Absolutely. You have got troops on the border coming in,


you have got the pro`Russians taking over the Government buildings and


you are in this situation of stand`off. What is going to happen


next? Will it reach a flash point, or will it gradually ebbed away and


we will end up with a negotiated settlement? Where this will go seems


to be open, completely open to me. The daily Telegraph has a different


picture again to the independent summing up the same story. Tanks,


Elizabeth. The Ukraine sends in the tanks and one wonders what President


Obama's next move will be if there is a clear sign that the Russians


are going to moving en masse. Quite. Is he going to fly over and bomb it?


I have no idea. They have made it clear that military action is


probably off the table. The suggestion is that sanctions will


have to be ratcheted up again and that would make things even more


difficult. And it will hurt us in the UK. It is not a one`way street.


If you just look at London and the large amount of Russian money in


London, invested in London, any attempt to choke that will have


severe economic consequences for us trust. Your point earlier was


fascinating, the two different images, one in the Independent and


one in the Telegraph, and the one in the Telegraph is particularly


striking. It really brings it home to you. It does, we think the


picture was probably taken yesterday. Certainly when I got up


this morning, I was looking for pictures of tanks and we couldn't


find them but this is dated from yesterday so it has obviously been


brewing quietly for a good 48 hours. I suspect over the next few days you


will be able to take photographs for a number of days to illustrate the


story. The Telegraph, hospital bed shortage. UK has second lowest


number of beds per person in Europe. Yes, but the percentages, they don't


seem enormous, do they? I can't remember what it was. 78% was the


OECD average and we were 84%. That's not massive. If you are running an


organisation that costs all these billions, which the NHS does, you


want good occupiesancy. I am not completely convinced that's


disastrous. OK. Again this is going to be ` the NHS and the state of the


NHS as we get closer to the election, these are going to be the


stories we are going to see more of. Labour are going to push this sort


of thing. Elizabeth is absolutely right. Having high occupiesancy is


not necessarily a bad thing and keeping people out of hospital is


not necessarily a bad thing. To be fair to this Government it has a


policy that pursued pretty much since 2001 to reduce the number of


beds, to cut the length of time people spend in hospital, the more


chance you have of getting some infection, because they're not great


places for that even with all the precautions. The idea should be to


keep people out of hospital, 50,000 beds have come out since 2001. The


rates are something you manage, you want high occupiesancy rates.


Hospital bed shortage exposed is not necessarily fair or accurate in


terms of the situation. The man from the independent, the woman from The


Times, you slagged off The Telegraph there! Let's go on to The Guardian.


The picture is of the memorial service at Anfield for those who


died at Hillsborough. The text very small at the bottom there. The


photograph says it all really. It does. Not a dry eye in the house.


One completely understands why. The tragedy is it's 25 years on and the


distress is still there. It's absolutely right that as papers we


mark that and we respect their grief. Sure. The Metro has marked it


with a photograph that you need to read the text to understand what


that is about. The two pictures on the front pages there side by side.


On the right ` what is that on the? I am not sure. It was inscribed with


the name of each victim. Whoever choose that picture, Elizabeth will


know better than me, thought it was a clever picture with the fans in


the background and this in the foreground. To be honest you have to


look carefully. The Guardian... It's more straightforward and


straightaway it hits you the power of it. You wouldn't have picked that


front page? I certainly wouldn't have put it in that picture box. It


seems to be about the ` the event is about the people and coming together


of the people. The people in the picture are out of focus and they're


not foregrounded by this image. I am sure that the ring of light is a


beautiful thing and we moving but the image and the way it's cropped


you can't see what it is. It's a shame. Even Stephen Gerrard on the


left there, you can't tell who it is. I don't think it's quite worked,


sadly. All right, you will be back in an hour's time to look at more


stories behind the headlines. Stay with us here on BBC news, at the top


of the hour we will have much more on the situation in Ukraine. Very


tense on the ground as the Ukrainian Government sends forces in to take


on pro`Russian militants. Now it's time for Sportsday.


Hello and welcome to Sportsday. Coming up: The Gunners keep the


Champions League in their sights after beating West Ham to move up to


4th in the table. There's trouble at Villa as two of


Paul Lambert's backroom staff are suspended by the


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