27/04/2014 The Papers


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following criticism of his government's handling of the ferry


tragedy. Hello and welcome to `` to our look


ahead at the morning papers. Whitney is Lucy Cavendish, a Telegraph


journalist. `` with me. The front pages. The Independent leads on new


rules to drive the long`term unemployed into work. It says they


will be forced to attend job centres every day. The FT says talks between


China and the US appear the most promising abutments and 20 years on


climate change. The metro says a triple killer has been awarded ?800


in compensation after prison guards broke his nasal clippers and failed


to apologise. The Telegraph says that high taxes are stifling


entrepreneurs in Britain. The Guardian says a leading doctor has


questioned whether understaffing on maternity wards is contributing to


Britain's hi def `` high levels of maternity deaths. There are no


suggestions that the deaths in Afghanistan were a response of enemy


action. We have `` photographs on the front page of the Telegraph of


the soldiers who died. Obviously it is tragic and when the story broke


everybody thought they had been shot down. The Taliban wanted the claim


that was the case but it seems it was not the case and there was an


investigation of what has happened but the photographs really bring it


home to you, these people who were just about to leave Afghanistan, and


it is really tragic and terrible for their families. Every time we hear


these wonderful tribute about these amazing people who always have so


much promise. Yes, I suppose the MoD has become more sophisticated in


messaging than maybe in the past, with these deaths they have issued


statements from former colleagues and so on. The MoD wants to make the


point that these are real people and there is a real human cost. They


want to respect these people by making that point. Sometimes you


forget people are still out there and it is still happening. The


dangers in this part of the world are so many, even making the seems


secure. Yes, flying a helicopter is dangerous even in the North Sea. The


soldiers are at a huge risk. It reinforces the point that projecting


military force is very dangerous and expensive in terms of lives even if


people are not in the firing line at a particular point, which is to be


amended when we look at other potential conflicts around the


world. Let's move on and look at the independent. The first story is that


the jobless must sign on every day. The government will dock money from


the unemployed if they don't comply. At the moment you have to go every


couple of weeks and say you are able to work. Wonder how they are going


to cope with the queues. I made a spreadsheet about this! Of course


you did! If it takes only two minutes for somebody to seek each of


these individuals, and it will probably take more, they are going


to have to hire over 2000 people to process this. They are certainly


going to create 2000 more jobs. It is very expensive policy, it might


seem like a good idea but it will not be cheap. I am not sure it is a


good idea because how are you supposed to find a job if you are


going to the job centre every day. Part of it is that you have to show


you are actively looking for work, you don't just go and sign on. There


are various schemes where you have to do voluntary work and if you


don't turn up your benefits are cut. All sorts of things are in


place at the moment. There is a problem here that partially this


takes the box of people who think feckless unemployed people, and they


don't want jobs. It is a lot more complicated than that on the ground.


A lot of people who I know who are unemployed are really struggling,


they can't find jobs, they are depressed, they have completely gone


out of the market and it is hard to get back in. People who are


long`term unemployed often have motor `` have multiple issues they


are trying to overcome. They could have health issues, mental health


issues, all kinds of reasons. Every time there is a programme like


Benefits Street, afterwards we have columnists saying this shows how


many people don't want to work. Those are extreme cases. This is


what this is trying to tackle and it is a very strong measure. There are


two sides to it, on the one hand they want to make sure that


everybody who can work goes out and gets a job. This policy, is this the


thing that is going to achieve it? It is certainly not going to


overcome some of the reasons why these people are not in the


workforce, problems with skills or other reasons. There is a way out of


it, you can volunteer to do voluntary work for six months. You


would have to do voluntary work for six months. Apparently Oxfam will


not take them because they are being forced to volunteer! There are jobs


like working at city zoos, I think that might be quite a good thing to


do, but if you are volunteering how are you going to find a job? To look


for jobs generally you have to be online, a lot of people can't afford


the Internet charges. You can get into a real self`perpetuating motion


feeling you are unemployable. Coming after another attempt to use a more


firm approach to get people into the workforce, and that was not very


successful, with Atos. The administrative difficulties. This


could be very difficult structural. The Guardian, understaffing in the


NHS linked to baby deaths. Reasonable to ask if resource crisis


has a tragic impact, this is a top doctor voicing alarm. It is a


shocking number of a bees dying in a first world nation. `` babies.


Apparently we have the third worst stillbirth rate among 30 high income


countries. When people go to have a baby they basically assume... I had


my babies at home because I was worried about high intervention


rates. The issue about that and women who want to have even a home


birth is that the insurance the midwives to see people at home has


been taken away. The midwife who I had who helped me give birth, she


could no longer do that, she is not allowed to practice that any more.


You have a real problem with what is going on. Women really have to go to


hospitals, there are not enough midwives, not enough money. People


are sitting in corridors. There is a lot of interventions, a lot of panic


about these statistics so I think a lot of women are getting themselves


into a lot of difficulty giving birth because of the stress. Isn't


there a problem with some of these statistics because some of them


relate to 2009, when Labour were in power and a lot of money was still


being spent in the NHS. These figures were still stubbornly high.


We very frequently seem to be getting interviews from senior


medical figures complaining about underfunding so there is an issue


that one looks at this a bit sceptically to say, well, the person


would say that, they want more money to come into their business. But he


does raise some serious questions, he is saying we should be looking


into this and asking the question. To me, it begs the question, are we


looking into it? Are people going through the data trying to


understand why there are the problems? He says it is not just


about funding, he says there are potentially bad decisions being made


by medical staff. At a coroner's inquest they might not get the level


of detail useful to see what improvements can be made. A lot of


stillbirths are unexplained and they also say there has been a big


increase in the birth rate and there is not enough staff to cover that,


while funding has also been slashed a bit. Let's move on to the


Independent, Pope Francis says two former Popes are being made saints


in a joint ceremony. I love all that, I think it is great, we should


make as many saints as possible. You don't think it is nonsense? Why is


it nonsense? It is great. When you put this into your computer what


does it say? This is really interesting, everybody is going


through the Vatican equivalent of Kremlinology. We have Pope John


XXIII, considered to be quite liberal, he was behind Vatican II


and a lot of other reforms, whereas John Paul II was seen as quite a


strict Catholic in terms of his the ology. But he travelled a lot and he


was very well`known. Do you have to get elected, how did it work? It is


not quite a democracy! They must have a hotline to Saint Peter. It


makes for a lovely picture. Finally, the Daily Telegraph, we


always seem to touch on this stuff with you two. Being married can make


you depressed. After years of advice saying married makes `` being


married makes you happier and longer lived, studies say it can also lead


to depression. I am going to quibble because I don't think the research


has said this. The research as far as I know has said that married men


are happier and single women are happy. When you put it in the


computer that is what it is going to tell you. Married women have to do


too much work in their marriage whereas men have a very nice time


being looked after. So being married if you are woman can make you


depressed. Anyone would think you were married to Tom. I would.


Depressed if I was! I suppose for men, there is the contentment that


comes with being married. He has his breakfast made. My three`year`old is


very good at making breakfast for me! This feeds into the cliches that


women hope they'll change their man and the wife won't change. I wasn't


surprised. I've got to stop Tom waxing lyrical about marriage again.


Hope his wife's watching! Back again at 11. 30 for a look at the stories


making the front`pages again. Coming up next, it's Click.


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