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years. Coming up on the film review, does Michael Fassbender in a mask

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turn Frank into art hit? We will find out. Hello and welcome to our

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look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are

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the Political Journalist Sean Dilley and the broadcaster Penny Smith.

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Nice to have you here, most of the time. The Metro leads with a record

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number of serial criminals being allowed to walk free with suspended

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sentences, in an effort to keep down the prison population. The

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Telegraph's front page features celebrating Manchester City players

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as they lift the Premier League cup. Their main headline claims

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pensioners shouldn't rely on government plans designed to limit

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the cost of care. The Guardian reports a sharp increase in the

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number of soldiers returning from Afghanistan and Iraq seeking help

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for mental health issues. The Times has more on the Take That tax row,

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frontman Gary Barlow now facing criticism from the Prime Minister

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for paying into a tax avoidance scheme. The Daily Mail has more on

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the government's policy of in`depth questioning for anyone seeking a

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mortgage. And claims from Stephen Sutton, the teen with cancer who has

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been fundraising for charity, that doctors initially missed his

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disease. The Daily Mirror has dramatic claims of loan sharks

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harassing unnamed mothers outside a school. The FT pictures a woman in

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the Ukraine casting her vote in one of the self`rule referendums in the

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east of the country. The headline says they polls will herald a

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break`up of the country. And finally the Independent claims soap and

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other household chemicals could be directly linked to a rise in male

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infertility. Completely new set of front`page stories this hour.

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Times. The Archbishop calls for talks with Boko Haram. Justin Welby

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says negotiations are necessary with the extremist who have kidnapped

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students from a school in Nigeria. What he warned it will be very

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difficult to do that. Yes, he also warns they are essentially

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irrational. Anyone who saw that chilling video would agree with that

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assessment. They would undoubtedly agree with the fact that

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negotiations there would be extremely collocated. What we forget

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is that the Archbishop of Canterbury entered the church in his 30s and

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was an oil executive. So he has dealt with the forerunners of Boko

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Haram in the Niger Delta, when he was an oil executive. He is

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well`placed to know what he is talking about. Negotiations seem to

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suggest compromise and concessions. How do you negotiate with people who

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think that girls should not go to school? I'm not sure that you can. I

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am not sure that Justin Welby think so either, I think that what he is

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doing is being constructive about the situation, when girls are being

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sold for ?8 effectively. He is saying that we need to start talking

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to Boko Haram, and get some dialogue going. I suppose if you can get some

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dialogue doing, you might be able to gain some form of concession. Make

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such a future less likely. Certainly the talks about sending in the SAS,

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which people want to do at the drop of hat without understanding the

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situation. And the massive area. It is an area of vast jungle. All the

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SAS regiments operate with tremendous prowess, but people

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expect them to be superheroes. They are highly trained and incredibly

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brave, but in some situations, they are not the solution. The other

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thing with groups like this, if you give them a name, the Taliban, or

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Boko Haram, and we expect them to be a cohesive group, so actually

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getting a hold of them can be problematic. It is like talks with

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any organisation which is a loose affiliation, if you like. Let's move

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on to the Guardian. Ministers call for free schools Budget curb. This

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is an argument about how funding for schools in England is being

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divided. The suggestion is that Michael Gove is so ideological eat

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obsessed that he is diverging money to Free Schools. And locally run

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schools are missing out. This language, they should be given

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detention! The quote unquote lunacy and pathetic, you work in the mother

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of all parliaments. I appreciate that standards have been very low in

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terms of debating, not with the select committees but in the

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chamber, but Lord Almighty! What you are seeing here is politicking at

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its very worst. Let's run over the main issues. They are important

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issues, and ?800 million black hole, criticism of ?400 million for

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the free school meal programme, and if we look back to the 2010

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election, with all parties promising, particularly the Lib

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Liberal Democrats. What you are seeing here. Watch this. This is

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important. These are the acyl lines upon which the Liberal Democrats

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will be fighting the Conservatives at the next election. Their argument

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is that they are not taking money away from school places at creating

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school places in a different way. Are, but hold on a second. In this

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article, Michael Gove is accused by the Liberal Democrats of raiding the

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Budget by ?400 million to help prop up the Free Schools programme.

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Meanwhile, Conservatives of cost`saving nick Clegg can't ring in

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free school meals for five or seven `year`olds because it is too

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expensive `` Nick Clegg. I think money is found when he wants to find

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it. There is a lot of talk about protecting the schools Budget. And

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we are talking about the back office, as we know, the back office

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and the front office can be separate. Staying with the Guardian,

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we have one. Iran claims victory in the war. They say that all they have

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done is encourage radical groups. This is Iran and its close ally

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Assad claiming they have won the war in Syria. Senior Iranians officials

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have told the Guardian. They have one in Syria, the regime will stay,

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the rebels have lost. This is of course the slightly more complicated

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than just that. Shia Muslim Iran is their main backup. They have propped

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up the regime since the first revolt in 2011. They have continually

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bolstered Assad in the teeth of attempts to destroy him. It does

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seem that Syria and Assad have held on to power, at what cost? They say

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they want easily, tell that to the victims. However, most people would

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surely have known that when we saw the Arab Spring in other places, we

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knew that Syria would be a very different prospect. Absolutely, and

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historically, militarily in the region. What is fascinating about

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this, America is doing jolly well in this war. You talk about the Arab

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Spring, you look at Egypt, and is Mubarak did terrible things, but

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actually intelligence sources say the one thing he did do is deliver

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some form of stability to the Middle East, which at the moment is in such

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a state of flux. To a degree, you wonder what extent we want to be

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involving ourselves with it. Let's look at the Mail. What a mortgage?

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Don't eat steak. These are bizarre questions you will be asked if you

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want a mortgage. They are cracking down. You will be asked about

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whether you play golf, how much you eat, whether you are planning to

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have another child. Absolutely. I wasn't actually offering, I was

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transposing myself. moving on, I wonder whether he is looking at a

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post` prime ministerial thing. If we were to lose Scotland, not that he

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says he will be going. Maybe he is trying to get a mortgage. But

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actually, the serious point here is finance is being stretched. We will

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see interest rates on the rise towards next year. You could, but

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that is what will happen. There is stress testing going on to see what

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the effect is going to be economically. The question is

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whether you can often a mortgage even if the interest rate goes up.

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And it is difficult, because the trouble is there is this tension

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particularly in the south with a huge bubble. You don't have much

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choice to take out a great big loan if you want to buy a house. it is

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worth talking about this whole thing in terms of houses anyway. People

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money, they have not been spending money, they have not been spending

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on the mortgage. You see a lot of houses going cheap, potentially

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crashes. It is bad news, I'm afraid. It is a huge worry. Is it a huge

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worry? When normal people, how are normal people even going to afford a

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house. What is a normal person? Well, just normal people doing

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normal jobs. I saw a flat the other day which was essentially what I

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would call a cupboard. It did not even have a loo. Can you sell such a

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property? Here is the window, it is that. Let's go back to The Wife of

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Bath's Tale. This is an extra ordinary man who has raised over ?3

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million for charity. He says his cancer was initially missed by

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doctors. He will always be angry that the doctors missed his cancer.

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There is something else which struck me here. He says I don't measure

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life in time, at what you can do. That is a moving thing to read. All

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of this, I don't think I can read it out because it kept making the well

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up, because so much of his blog just makes you want to go and grab life.

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In many ways, it is awful and terrible, but in the same way, that

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you were saying I don't measure life in time but by what you can do, and

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you could live to be 100 and is never achieve what he has. Exactly.

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And on his bucket list, he says ?10,000 is what he wanted to raise,

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and he has raised ?3.2 million. An amazing chap. Everybody has

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legitimate concerns in this world. We all have our worries, but it is

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life`affirming. The fact that he says, why would you waste your life

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saying it is not good? Worrying about these menial things, this is

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somebody who is going to die, potentially, and let us hope there

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is some miracle, around the age of 19. He says to grab life and live

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it. Amazing. The Independent. Chemicals in soap can cause mail

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infertility. That's it, I am not washing ever again. You won't be

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welcome here. I think when I am on the Chew, I know men who probably

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don't have any problem with this `` on the tube. This has concerned

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people for a long time. You think about it, in your home, you are

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stuck with the vapours and fumes of all these chemicals without really

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thinking about what you are breathing in. We know there is

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oestrogen in the water supplies in the United Kingdom, that is why many

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people drink spring water, but some of these chemicals are found in

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substances like toothpaste and soap. Toothpaste, soap, children's

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plastic toys. And this is a man whose name we like. I am just trying

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to find it. An excellent name, from the Copenhagen University Hospital

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in Denmark. He has noticed a 50% drop in low sperm count in the last

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50 years. What are you supposed to do? I know there are more natural

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alternatives. A lot of them say this, but as you say, the trouble

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is, it is those things like when flame retardant material et cetera.

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In short men live longer. They may have jokes at their expense of but

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they will have the last laugh after all. If you are under five foot two,

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and I don't know many who are. Tom Cruise is five foot five. And many

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famous men are short. So there we are. But the argument is that

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shorter men are more likely to have longevity genes leading to a smaller

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body size and a longer lifespan. I don't know about that, being at

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around six foot. Thank you both for being here. That is all for

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tonight. Stay with us here on BBC News: At midnight we'll have the

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latest from Ukraine ` where at least one person has died after government

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forces opened fire near crowds in the east of the country. But coming

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up next it's time for The Film Review with Gavin Esler and Mark

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Kermode. Hello. Welcome to the Film Review. To take us through the

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cinema releases, Mark Kermode. It's a very good week, Frank, a film

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inspired by but not based on the character of Frank

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