11/05/2014 The Papers


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If only you knew what I have to put up with!


Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing


us tomorrow. With me are the political journalist, Sean Dilley


and the broadcaster Penny Smith. He is the one sitting nice and still.


And Penny is a real fidget. Hold on, you said I was looking a little


short. I couldn't find the handle! I am trying to tell people the news. I


do apologise. The Metro leads with a record number


of serial criminals being allowed to walk free with suspended sentences,


in an effort to keep down the prison population.


The Telegraph's front page features celebrating Manchester City players


as they life the Premier League cup. `` as they lift the Premier League


cup. Their main headline claims pensioners shouldn't rely on


government plans designed to limit the cost of care.


The Guardian reports a sharp increase in the number of soldiers


returning from Afghanistan and Iraq seeking help for mental health


issues. The Express says summer is just


around the corner and that temperatures of 75 degrees are on


the way. The Daily Mail has more on the


government's policy of in`depth questioning for anyone seeking a


mortgage. And claims from Stephen Sutton, the teen with cancer who's


been fundraising for charity, that doctors initially missed his


disease. And, finally, the Daily Star claims


this year's Eurovision winner, Austria's bearded lady Conchita


Wurst, is due to cash in. They say she could be the most successful


winner since Abba. With costumes to rival Abba, too.


So let's begin. Thousands dodge jail for crimes, what kind of crimes? We


are talking everything. The scent of a crime prevention `` the Centre for


crime prevention have dug out anything from sex offences, and


downwards, seen suspended sentences. It mentions paedophilia,


which is very loaded, and that covers a multitude of offences, of


course. I think this is rather interesting, almost something you'd


see on the front of the Daily Mail, because you've got 12,000 criminals


with more than ten convictions getting suspended sentences, which


indicates they are being overused, but where will we put them? Where


can you put prisoners? You stick some of them in open prisons and


they abscond. The other thing is, what our prisons for? Are they for


rehabilitation? Could they be doing something a lot more useful? In the


United States, they have an island for criminals. People can live in


villages. We are not proposing this in this review, it has to be said,


but it is interesting because it is fair to say that you can lock them


all up, but what it is indicative of is that the justice system isn't


working. But there is a point, what is prison for? You'd have to go


right back down to what we supposed to be doing with these people? If


they are thugs and they are thanks for all of reasons. People turn to


that sort of crime... How will you sort it out? Tough on crime tough on


the causes of crime? Prison itself as it hush`hush went `` as a


punishment. Resources are stretched if you have a huge prison


population, how do you rehabilitate all of them? Privatise it! That is


happening everywhere. And some of these people, you are not saying


they shouldn't go to prison? IM not. Of course they should. Violent


people who reoffend should go to prison. But the point is, what is


better? As you say, the trouble is that although we talk about violent


people, is it violent people attacking other violent people? I


suppose it is more understandable... I do know, that


stories to compensate it! You might be doing that to quite a few


stories. # that story is too complicated. Right, let's move on.


Stop rustling! You are very unruly tonight. The business section of the


Telegraph. Fracking, hugely controversial, as we know. The first


British ale gas is to fuel British homes next year. `` British shale


gas. Really? And then, people who are going to have fracking on their


land, they are going to be entitled to minimum compensation if they


don't want it going on. I read later on that it says that just one shale


gas well has been partially fracked in the UK to date by Cuadrilla. How


will that go on the size a logical effects `` the seismological


effect? It causes earthquakes. It could be next year, they say, but


isn't going to happen, I think, because there will be a lot of


opposition. There are already has been. But the politicians wanted.


Everyone says this fracking is bad, but there seems such a drive for it,


it is going to go ahead whatever happens. We don't want the lights to


go out, do we? That is difficult because until we find an alternative


source of energy, this is going to be a problem. We need to go hell for


leather to try to find something. On a serious note, if it is causing


earthquakes, if you look at it globally, if there are these issues,


there are still questions, and they don't really belong in government


policy, questions. There is also the issue of getting access to the land


because people could get in the way just that way, saying, you cannot


access it. At the moment, they have done a deal with some farmers in


some of these sites. They are allowed to drill under the land,


then they are going along. Soap... I don't know. `` so... I don't know.


It is very complicated. Let's go to the front page of the Daily


Telegraph. This is another complicated story. Cap won't prevent


shocking care costs. Pensioners bills will reach ?140,000 for care,


before new rules take effect, but some people will not live long


enough to see these new rules come in. But this new cap isn't going to


be a cap at all. We will talk about this story at the moment, but Ed


Miliband, Nick Clegg and David Cameron or promised to work together


on social care. `` lately promised to work together on social care. Yet


this story, we are sorry about all of this, the devil is in the detail.


This cap doesn't cover accommodation. That is a third of


the cost. About a third of it, yes. And it doesn't include the full


amount that people have to pay in residential homes, only the official


local cost. Which is the amount that a council says it will pay for a


place in a home, which is... There are lots of caveats, and that is


where it becomes complicated. What it boils down to is that there we


were, all saying, this is great news, it isn't. Can I just say,


nearly five years of doing paper reviews, I've never come across a


story where on a first paragraph on the front page, you're not clear


about what the story is about. And then in the sixth paragraph, you're


still not sure. It is interesting that maybe that means how


complicated this story is. You're sort of having to feel your way


through the subject. Could it be that the politicians have agreed to


something without understanding the nuance? Well, who knows. All I know


is that as we get older, and, as a nation, this is going to be more and


more problematic. It affects more men than women because one in 13


women this will affect these extra costs is, and one in seven men.


Let's stay with the Daily Telegraph. BBC disgraceful over race row says


Boris, the background to this, a local radio presenter, David Lowe,


who has been working for 32 years at BBC Radio Devon accidentally played


a song that had a racist word in it. And Boris says the way that the way


the BBC have dealt with it is a disgrace. You find yourself in


partial agreement with this. It is very ordered. This is a song, The


Sun Has Got His Hat On... From 1932. When very different language


pertained. It is an understandable mistake. If it is sunny outside, I


would say, yes, it's quite nice to have an old`fashioned song. And, off


you go. Then he says, I'm sorry, I didn't realise it had that word in


it. He offers to fall on his sword, and they say, yes. What's


fascinating as well, BBC regional stations and national stations don't


have a delay system such as the commercial stations. The argument


for that is that they treat the audience as adults. To do is sort of


wonder, then, one coma `` one commercial station has a 14 second


delay, should you introduce these things to protect the corporation's


reputation when something like that happens? And nobody is defending


that. The whole of the BBC board should apologise to David Lowe for


the way he has been treated, Boris says. They talk about it being mob


rule, almost. The Internet bob, exactly, terrified bureaucrats, he


says. Let's try to cover some of the stories. Mental illness surges among


war veterans. A charity warns there is a rising tide for those who


fought in Afghanistan and Iraq, coming home after perilous tours of


duty. This is not a surprise, as the rose. I'm about to give a defence of


the military because it is close to my heart. My friends are back from


Afghanistan, nobody is sure when they will go out there again. We


pick people to join the military from the general public, we give


them guns, we train them to kill people, that is the reality. We


train them to die. More than that, the military don't understand why it


is that when we ask them to make this ultimate sacrifice, the public


do not have the sympathy they put a foot wrong that they are going to


get attacked, and that is enough to send anybody around the bend. And


they need not just physical rehabilitation but mental, too. It


seems the mental health is the one which is the lurking thing because


they are talking about it coming out even ten or 12 years, many years


afterwards. They are still talking about people in service from


Northern Ireland coming forward right now. It takes a long time


sometimes the people tick even realise that what they are suffering


as a direct result of their experiences. And to seek help. That


is the other thing, seeking help. If you're used to being a strong man,


or strong woman, and then you are having these terrible might there


whatever, or anything else that's affecting alive, there is this kind


of... You try to battle on. One key point, 57%, the number of


incidences, and it is important to realise we have had the budget is


top`level and this will get worse not better. That's it for The Papers


this hour. Thank you to my guests Sean Dilley and Penny Smith, you'll


both be back at 11:30pm for another look at the stories making the news


tomorrow. Stay with us here on BBC News. You


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