16/05/2014 The Papers


16/05/2014

No need to wait until tomorrow morning to see what's in the papers - Martine Croxall presents a lively and informed conversation about the next day's headlines.


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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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bringing us tomorrow. With me are Jennifer Howze, journalist and

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co`founder of Brit Mums, and the Sunday Post's Westminster

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correspondent James Millar. Thank you for joining us this evening.

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Tomorrow's front pages: The Mail leads with claims that

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migrants who don't speak English can buy language certificates, helping

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them en route to British citizenship.

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The Independent has a picture of a British`born man it says is

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suspected of masterminding Boko Haram bomb attacks in Nigeria. The

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Mirror claims NHS bosses pocketed hundreds of millions of pounds in

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extra pay last year, as nurses were hit by a one percent fall in their

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wages. The Express says the taxpayer is

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paying for asylum seekers to be secretly housed in hotels.

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The number of people being investigated by the HMRC has doubled

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according to the Telegraph. The Financial Times leads with

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India's election and the historic victory by Narendra Modi and the

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BJP. And the Guardian's headline has

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allegations that child protection services are going to be privatised.

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And The Times leads with a report from war correspondent Anthony Loyd,

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describing the moment he and a colleague were captured in Syria

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this week. Let's begin, and we will start with

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the Mail, with the headline, cheat your way to a passport. As a

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non`British born London living journalist, what do you make of this

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story? Well, I am British now but I took the citizenship test. In fact,

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couple of friends of mine have just taken it. It has been getting harder

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and harder to become a citizen with the English language test and the

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citizenship test. As a native English speaker, I did not have to

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worry about that but most people I know like that the test is Mayor,

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because it was only introduced in the past decade or so. `` they like

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that the test is there. This was secret filming at one centre,

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according to the Mail. They basically say that you can buy a

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certificate which says you have passed the test and you don't even

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need to sit it. If true, James, very serious allegations. It feeds into

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immigration being a big story with the European elections coming up and

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UKIP gaining a lot of their support on the back of an anti`immigration

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ticket. This does suggest that, once again, the government is not on top

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of the problem as much as they could be. They have this target of tens of

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thousands of immigrants by the end of the parliament. That is not going

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to happen, certainly if you can cheat your way to a passport. On a

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similar vein, we will move onto the Express, because it is a different

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story but looking at that, migration issue. Their headline ` asylum

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seekers in 4`star hotels. The allegation that asylum seekers are

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being secretly housed in hotels, luxury hotels, with a spark, summing

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pool and health club, at a cost to taxpayers of ?900,000. `` a swimming

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pool. This is equating all immigrants with asylum seekers, of

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course. It ignores, and it is preying on the idea that asylum

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seekers are here to exploit the country. There are many asylum

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seekers who are here legitimately seeking asylum. But of course, if

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they are being housed in hotels, or other inefficient ways, that just

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does not work. There is no suggestion that these are bogus

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asylum seekers, to use the old`fashioned term. Until they are

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processed, we won't necessarily know. But the bill is big and it

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will annoy a lot of people. Yes, absolutely. Interestingly, it

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involves GeForce S, most famous, of course, for making a right old mess

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of the Olympics. Everyone hated them in 2012, and yet they are still

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getting these come back `` contacts, and still making a mess of

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things. However many in the sudden influx of new arrivals turn up, it

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begs the question, what do you do with them? To be fair to the

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company, this is apparently a result of simply too many, a sudden influx

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leading to overcrowding. As you say, they have to have a bed

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somewhere, I suppose. Exactly. This caused a bit more debate between you

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outside, the Telegraph headline ` innocent victims of tax raiders. The

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Telegraph has an interesting take, saying the number of people being

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investigated by the taxman has doubled in one year. According to

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this, it is claimed that they tend to be going after self`employed

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people. And an interesting list of those it says have been targeted `

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middle`class professionals, doctors, lawyers, teachers. James. Where do

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you start with this? You are quite supportive. More self`employed

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people have been investigated because there are more self`employed

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people. The country is bust, so probably HMRC should be trying to

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catch those who are fiddling their taxes. The idea that being a

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teacher, doctor or lawyer make sure a soft target I find quite

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remarkable, because you can still be a crook and be a teacher, doctor or

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lawyer. I think we have to just make clear that, yes, in any sense... I

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am not suggesting that they all are. But this paper is suggesting these

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are sometimes just mistakes on, the catered forms. If anyone has tried

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to fill these out, they run two pages and pages. What bothers me

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about this story and will bother a lot of people is that individuals,

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they are soft targets. Individuals are pursued and they mostly pay up,

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especially working people. They are not independently wealthy, not

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corporations. You go after them for the little things, rather than

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tackling the big things that have been in the news about confiscated

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tax avoidance schemes the government needs to go in and close some

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loopholes, or corporations that maybe are not paying their fair

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share. Those are more difficult, but once they attacked those, they get

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more revenue ward at once, they get more revenue going forward because

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those people pay going forward. Innocent mistakes, one`time

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mistakes, or even over a few years, how much revenue will be brought him

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from this? They are putting the figure at ?35 billion of tax lost

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every year, but not through the innocent victim angle, which is what

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this is all about. I see no evidence that these are innocent victims.

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There is no figure for how many people have been convicted or not.

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It is difficult to know how many are genuine mistakes. HMRC is not exempt

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from making mistakes. Indeed not. Onto the Independent, and they have

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gone for a story that I have not seen on any other pages for

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Saturday's papers, the British face of Boko Haram. James, do you want to

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explain that? It is interesting that it is on the front page because it

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is a link to Boko Haram, in Nigeria, who have kidnapped over 200

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schoolgirls. That was a big story last weekend and has kind of drifted

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off the front pages, sadly, because it is still, clearly, a terrible

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story. It is back on the front page because this chap is, well, they are

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trying to extradite him to Nigeria for a couple of bombings he is

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accused of in the suburbs of Abuja, the capital. The story is that he

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was radicalised when he was a student at University in Wales. This

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is something which the Americans have been warning about for a long

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time, both in America and Britain, the radicalisation of young people,

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going abroad to fight and the fear of them coming back here to the

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mainland as well. This is a Welsh university student. When you read

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this, they seem to have gone through it fairly detailed, about his links,

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they believe. Yes. I think it taps into this concern about this fear of

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radicalisation. Mostly young men, although some young women as well,

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being drawn to these extreme groups and really struggling in the UK. How

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do we deal with that, keep it from appealing to them? What is it that

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is appealing to them that makes them want to go and kill hundreds of

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people, often innocent people, to be a part of this movement? The paper

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says that experts were warning last night that this could signal the

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start of a new wave of British Nigerian extremists travelling to

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fight for Boko Haram. It is something which will be it big

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concern obviously to security experts, but the naming of this

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person is quite a step for the Independent. You don't want to start

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causing a fright, but there is a big Nigerian diaspora in Britain.

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Presumably that is where the links are, there is a lot of traffic back

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and forward. There is an interesting element to the story, that he was

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detained and then released, following a campaign by family and

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human rights groups, and now, once again, back in custody. Staying with

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the Independent, and this recent ruling from the European court. The

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paper is listing a lot of different examples of people. Some of them are

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extraordinary... Yes, this interests me in particular because I live in

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the online and social media world in my day`to`day job. But it does feel

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like, yes, a famous actor who had an affair with a teenager, tax dodgers,

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people who have been convicted of crimes, basically. They say half of

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people who are pitched a shilling to get things removed `` who are

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petitioning to get things removed have a criminal past. It is

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disturbing. It basically gives this power to Google to decide what is

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worth reporting, what is worth being available, in terms of the

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information age. I think Google is saying, we do not want to be

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determining whose past... It is quite troubling, some of these are

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serious issues. Indeed, a couple of politicians in there. It does not

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say they are British politicians. There is one former MP now trying to

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get the election, trying to get details of past conduct removed.

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That led to much fun in Westminster yesterday, trying to guess who it

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might be. I will not mention names. That was one of the less serious

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cases, but then there is the man who tried to kill his family, trying to

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lose right to a news report. How can he possibly have the right to have

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that deleted? The only paper I have seen at the moment with the Indian

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elections on is the FT. We have not got all of the papers in yet. But

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the BJP 's weeping to power, and this could be a bit of a sea

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change? Yes, it is interesting. `` the BJP sweeping to power. It is the

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biggest election in the world, hundreds of millions of votes, 500

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million votes had to be counted. And 100 million of those were new

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voters, they say. And he was particularly appealing to younger

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voters. Yes, and it was all about economic revival and basically

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business likes him, so, he has got a lot of support. Here is a new

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character, but it is an old story, he is promising economic revival,

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while the economy is not doing as well as it was. That will go down

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well in hard times. Whether he can pull it off, of course... One of the

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commentators in this story says he could be in power for 15 years. But

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he will have to deliver on his promises. Interestingly, it says

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Indian stocks have jumped by more than 4.5%. We must leave it there.

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That is it for the papers this hour. A big thanks to Jennifer and James.

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They will be back with us at half past 11 for another look at the

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papers. Stay with us. Here on BBC News, at 11 o'clock ` as hundreds of

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British tourists are evacuated, we bring you more on today's terror

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attacks in Nairobi. Coming up next, Sportsday.

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