06/06/2014 The Papers


06/06/2014

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

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will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are author and broadcaster,

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Dreda Say Mitchell and David Williamson of the Western Mail.

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The Independent has a striking image of a lone piper

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Arromanches. And asks, as the world remembers D`Day, "what, if anything,

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have we learnt"? "The Great Escape" of Bernard Jordan makes the front

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if anything, have we learnt"? absconded from a care home to join

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his comrades on the beaches of The Daily Mail.

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pictured on the front of The Daily Express as she lays a wreath in

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Bayeux but it headlines the arrival of monsoon weather this weekend. The

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The Western mail reports that Peter Hain will stand down as an MP at the

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general election. And the financial Times says Western authorities have

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handed Turkish authorities a list of 5000 people they fear are trying to

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travel to join Al`Qaeda groups. Where else should we begin but the

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incredibly moving commemorations we have seen on the beaches of Normandy

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throughout the day. A gift for photographers, and the papers making

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the most of the pictures they have been offered. D`Day, the final

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tribute, commemorating the invasion that rescued Europe from the Nazis.

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That is 99`year`old Bill Price on Gold Beach. Men of this age,

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determined to be there, even if they are frail and ill. That makes you

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feel choked, just to think of that. It does, really. One of the things

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that really moved me was not just that they were there, but their

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families were there. I remember yesterday watching a programme on

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someone pulls my granddaughter was talking about her grandfather who

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had just passed away. She had a wonderful picture of him with his

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medals, but also has a handsome young man. Prince William was

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talking today. Young people mustn't forget. That is why it is key that

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we continue to commemorate this as long as we can. That is what makes

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this poignant. Yes, it is a special anniversary, the 70th. The next

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commemoration, the big one, the 80th year, these men will not be here.

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They want. And when you think of how society has changed as a result of

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their victory, these are the men who made possible the birth of democracy

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across so much of the world. And some of them, like Bill Price who we

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see standing here, have lived to see their victory. When we talk about

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the numbers of the fallen, the 4000, more than September the 11th, that

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personal experience of disaster and tragedy, suddenly perhaps in our

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society after 9/11 macro, we have been reminded that history is full

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of surprises. History follows a narrow course of events, and these

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men define the course of events that made democracy and freedom possible.

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And now as we look at the rest of the world thrown back into

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uncertainty and new threats, we can't take this for granted, now

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that the Berlin Wall is down. The Independent also have a very

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beautiful picture on the front page, a piper playing a lament on Gold

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Beach as the Royal Marines landing craft arrived at Arromanches at the

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start of the D`Day commemorations. But the headline, the world

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remembers, but what, if anything, have we learnt, making the point

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that there were diplomatic manoeuvring is because of what is

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happening in the Ukraine, in Syria and how it is spilling over and

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affecting Europe. The divisions within the European Union, that all

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of that was present on these beaches today. It is the whole thing about

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human beings. Do we ever learn? I don't think we do ever learn. It

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seems when you look at history, we are always commemorating wars. Some

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that we think are just, and this was definitely a just war. That is one

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of the reasons I think we have to commemorate it. It is also the 100th

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anniversary for the great War, and here we are again with all these

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conflicts. In my home, I have a fabulous carpet that I bought in

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Syria. I often look at it and think, I can't get on a plane and go there

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now. I sometimes think, are we ever going to learn? I sometimes think,

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we are not going to learn because we we are not going to learn because we

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are human beings and I wonder if conflict is part of our psyche. That

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context makes the events of D`Day more extraordinary. Here were

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nations coming together in the biggest ever invasion force. This

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was not an invasion to occupy, it was an invasion which literally

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confronted evil, and one. And then left. We are still talking in school

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rooms about battles from over 2000 years ago. I think, as time passes

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the events of D`Day will become more extraordinary, simply because what

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other precedent is there for a battle of freedom? Another

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interesting thing, and why I think we need to commemorate the D`Day

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landings and what happened in World War II, is that there is no grey

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line with this will stop it was a just war. However, I think we have

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moved in modern times, if you think about the Vietnam War, the war in

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Iraq, the forces that were in Afghanistan, what is happening in

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Syria, we have these wars that are very grey, not so clear`cut. It

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would be very interesting in the future, are there going to be

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commemorations of those wars? If you think about the Vietnam War, it is a

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war that in America people don't really talk about. So I think this

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one is a very important one in terms of reminding us about our values as

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human beings in society. The Daily Mail says after Charles accused

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Putin of behaving like Hitler, the Russian leader brazen it out on

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D`Day. Is that the right verb? Millions of Russians died in the

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Second World War. Exactly. Millions of Russians will be watching him

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there and remembering the sacrifices that their communities made. And the

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danger is in reporting anything like this that we see it as rain much a

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European event. This genuinely was a world war. Today, the politics that

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Putin stands surrounded by our not just European politics. Through the

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Cold War one of the criticisms of the response from the West was that

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we always thought whoever was the Russian premier was thinking about

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Europe, when they were thinking just as much about China. And now he's

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looking across and seeing China's ambitions in the South China Ocean

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and such things. There is an opportunity for Russia still to be

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brought in from the cold, and Putin still has an opportunity to go down

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in history as a great state maker. The pressure is on him to make

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overtures of some sort to the new President`elect of Ukraine. He is in

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no doubt about how the Western leaders feel that his relationship

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should progress with Ukraine. I think one of the issues is that some

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people would disagree with how we are talking about this and would say

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that Western leaders have two make overtures. Once again, the conflict

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in the Ukraine is one of those that is not clear`cut. If you stand on

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both sides, you can see where they are coming from. What is interesting

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with this story, there is a wonderful quote. Mr Putin cut an

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isolated figure while otherworldly does clustered around the Queen. So

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you get this image that everyone should be together but nation states

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are not actually together at all. should be together but nation states

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Like David Cameron's entreaty that they should do that. Let's take a

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look at a lighter story from the D`Day commemorations on the Daily

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Mail. Navy veteran defies care home ban and absconds to join comrades on

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D`Day beaches. This is a man by the name of Bernard Jordan, who lives in

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Hove. I think at 89, if you are a veteran, you can do what you like

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today. I think he should be able to do what he likes every day. There is

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poignancy to this story. He was one of the men who came back from the

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beaches and was part of the generation that created the welfare

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state. It does make you think about how many other heroes are sitting in

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nursing homes, which this year has come up the agenda so much. If we

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are going to honour their contribution, it can't just be for

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one day. It has to be the care that they receive. Absolutely. That is

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one of the issues that came out of this, and even some of the use of

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language `abs gone, escaped. It gives a view of what we think of

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care homes. Don't you think they are saying it in a valiant way, good on

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him for doing it? Yes, but underneath there is this thing about

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how we treat older people in care homes, and a sense that we will all

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end up as older people and are we going to be subject to carers? If

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lots of veterans were in care homes, why wasn't there a concerted

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strategy to get them to Normandy? Mr Jordan, also a former mayor, decided

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to come back early and is on board an overnight ferry. We understand he

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found the whole experience far more emotional than he expected and he

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missed his wife. I hope you have a comfortable berth on the ferry back,

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Mr Jordan. One more story. The Western Mail. We have to have that.

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Peter Hain top stand down. 23 years Western Mail. We have to have that.

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Peter Hain top stand down. he has been the Labour MP for Neath.

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They will miss him there. One of the things that are outstanding about

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Peter Hain is he was able to combine the micro`and macroin an outstanding

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passion. He was able to command in the world stage, arguments and at

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the same time would be fighting about the closure of a court there

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and there was never any conflict between the two. You were aware of

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him a very long time ago because of his involvement ` he was very, very

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focal antiapartheid campaigner. I studied African history. He was one

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of the pivotal people for me because ` I believe, you know, he talks

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about ` both his parents were part of the Liberal Party in South Africa

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and they were antiapartheid activists. He remembers as a

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teenager, the police turning up at his home and coming to look for

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documents. He was part, when he came to London, Stop the '70 Tour and the

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South African cricket and rugby tour if '69 and '70. Do you remember all

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of that, New Zealanders digging up pitches. When you look at Peter

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Hain, you have a real grossing of a life in politics, not just in

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Parliament, but as a young man, at the grassroots fighting for justice.

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He is said it is not over yet but he is making us wait to see what he is

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going to get up to next. That's it for the now but my guests will be

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with me in the next hour to look again at the papers. Stay with us

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for more from the D`Day commemorations in Normandy.

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Coming up now, time for the sport. Hello and welcome to Sportsday.

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Andy Murray is out of the French Open. He lost in straight sets to

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Rafael Nadal who will now play Novak Djokovic in the final.

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With just eight days

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