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Welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will bring us. I am | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
joined by Bonnie Greer and the Deputy political editor of The | :00:26. | :00:26. | |
Times, Sam Coates. And the Telegraph leads | :00:27. | :00:32. | |
on what appears to be a reversal of medical advice for the taking of | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
aspirin to prevent against strokes. The paper reports that | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
a million people are being told not to take the medication if they have | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
a particular heart condition. allows Britain's security service to | :00:41. | :00:43. | |
spy on British people's Facebook The same story is on the front | :00:44. | :00:48. | |
of the Daily Mirror, which reports that GCHQ argues that | :00:49. | :00:54. | |
without 'mass surveilance' there wouldn't be 'adequate levels | :00:55. | :00:56. | |
of intelligence'. are considered legally acceptable | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
to monitor because the data it spied Cosmetic surgery on the front of the | :01:00. | :01:22. | |
Daily Mail. According to the paper, Jeremy Hunt has said that the | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
procedure should no longer be available on the NHS. We are going | :01:26. | :01:32. | |
to start with the revelations on the front of the metro, revealing how | :01:33. | :01:37. | |
GCHQ tracks your Internet use. What has happened is that the Home | :01:38. | :01:43. | |
Office's head of security and anti`terrorist has submitted a 40 | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
page document to say what the UK does when it comes to monitoring | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
your Twitter, Facebook and Google mail account. It is quite | :01:50. | :01:55. | |
eye`catching stuff. They have said that they designate all of those | :01:56. | :02:03. | |
companies, for example my Gmail account is designated a foreign | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
entity which they feel gives them the right to go through it without a | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
warrant at any time of their choosing. We know because of the | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
disclosures from Edward Snowdon we have seen | :02:16. | :02:21. | |
with a judge. The government says this is necessary in terms of | :02:22. | :02:33. | |
terrorism. Why this is eye`catching is because a couple of years ago you | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
may amend that we had a big debate about eight snooper 's bill, as it | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
was called, that failed in the House of Commons `` a. There were many | :02:43. | :02:50. | |
safeguards in it against them being able to go through people 's e`mail, | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
such as the requirement to get a warrant if it was anything more than | :02:55. | :03:04. | |
the basic data, what the e`mail was called and who it was between. They | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
have admitted that they can go through anything without a warrant, | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
which I find fairly surprising. Because of this loophole, many of | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
the accounts are unregistered overseas, is that the idea? They are | :03:18. | :03:24. | |
overseas. If you look at twitter, it will tell you the time in Silicon | :03:25. | :03:30. | |
Valley that your Twitter message went out, that is their time. The | :03:31. | :03:34. | |
government have found a loophole, and I'm sorry to be cynical, but | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
GCHQ has been listening to us for years. So this has become a | :03:39. | :03:45. | |
headline, because we are now aware of the communications, different | :03:46. | :03:53. | |
sorts. Many people in the House of Commons don't understand social | :03:54. | :03:58. | |
media, Facebook and Twitter. That's one of the big problems about why | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
this has come up. This has been going on for years. The revelations | :04:03. | :04:12. | |
from Edward Snowden left a lot of people underwhelmed. Is this going | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
to have more traction because it is one of our people saying "we are | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
sleeping from you and it is a loophole we can do with anybody"? | :04:22. | :04:26. | |
There are age differences and different people take different | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
attitudes. It is striking that in America they are having a robust | :04:32. | :04:37. | |
debate about it. There is a written prostitution in America. We in | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
Britain don't have a written constitution, there is a body of law | :04:43. | :04:51. | |
that sits in the House of Commons. When the House of Commons makes a | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
law, it is dealt with. We don't have that tradition. Americans would jump | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
on this like crazy. It's an important story but we have to | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
understand that in this country, this comes up. People won't | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
understand what this is about because most people will say, they | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
are listening to us anyway. I agree that it is horrible but how do you | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
make people understand how terrible it is? You have to trust people that | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
you can have a discussion about what is and isn't off`limits. The fear is | :05:23. | :05:28. | |
that you are giving unfettered access to quite a large group of | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
people. We don't trust the passport agency, how can we be sure that GCHQ | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
is any better? I would like to know that the people who are watching and | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
monitoring, the watchers, are doing this well. We are entitled to a | :05:43. | :05:49. | |
debate, however sniffy politicians like to be about it. No truck with | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
the argument that we had to have this surveillance, you see what's | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
happening in Iraqi, many of these people are coming back here, we have | :06:00. | :06:06. | |
two June in? `` we have to tune in. I'm not coming down on it | :06:07. | :06:09. | |
definitively, why can't we have a debate and why are we not trusted on | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
knowing what is going on? Of course I think it's a good idea but it is | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
not a traditional idea, this is the problem. This is why there is going | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
to be an issue. Most people will say, to use your argument... I am | :06:24. | :06:31. | |
playing devils advocate! People are saying, how do we need to know what | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
is going on. I bumped into a member of the intelligence and Security | :06:38. | :06:39. | |
committee today, the watchdog who are meant to be watching over this | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
and I said, do you think that the security services should have | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
unfettered access without any checks to be able to go through anything | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
and they looked at me and said "I cannot answer that question until we | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
adopt a position." It worries me, the quality of the people we picked | :06:58. | :07:06. | |
put to do this. I agree. The other people on the committee, I'm not | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
sure they are the toughest we can have and that is it. In America they | :07:10. | :07:17. | |
have a robust system. The Daily Mirror has the same story. " We are | :07:18. | :07:22. | |
spying on your Facebook" your point is that the people who are meant to | :07:23. | :07:25. | |
be overseeing this are much more security minded than civil liberties | :07:26. | :07:32. | |
minded? In the House of Commons I can only think of three MPs who | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
aggressively stand up to question this kind of stuff, Tom Watson, a | :07:37. | :07:41. | |
Liberal Democrat, and David Davies for the Tory party. There are not a | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
great body of people who want to argue about this and that is quite | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
interesting. Someone who was not born here, I say that the fail`safe | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
is the defence of the well`known that is where people go the end of | :07:55. | :07:56. | |
the day. is the defence of the well`known | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
that is where people go What Sam is asking for, and it is right, a | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
change of culture, a cultural shift. A lot of what we're reading about is | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
based on a piece of legislation, when these issues did not exist, the | :08:11. | :08:16. | |
Internet was barely formed. A lot of case law has been built on that | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
rather shaky foundation and there has not been any of the debate you | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
would want to see. I don't understand the discrepancy but again | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
we are told that terrorism trumps everything and we shouldn't ask any | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
questions. It is the defence of the well`known that what has to be | :08:34. | :08:36. | |
talked about and hopefully this will happen `` the defence of the realm. | :08:37. | :08:43. | |
We found guilty of football match fixing conspiracy. I know that you | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
are a big fan... This is a landmark case `` three found guilty. I don't | :08:49. | :08:56. | |
pay attention to it! People are going to watch this because they are | :08:57. | :09:02. | |
not watching the football. Here we have a story about football in | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
trouble. What it is, the Telegraph is effectively patting itself on the | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
back, some convictions of three people who appear to have been | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
trying to do match fixing, trying to convince a low`level football player | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
to throw some matches. It appears that the jury and the judge agreed, | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
so well done to the Telegraph for exposing this. One detail that is | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
missing, exactly how they planned to do it. I don't understand how you | :09:31. | :09:36. | |
fix a football match, but football comes with a hefty smell which I'm | :09:37. | :09:42. | |
sure people are trying to ignore, talking about this World Cup rather | :09:43. | :09:45. | |
than the one in Qatar. Interesting that there are problems at every | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
level. This is in some of the culture, this match fixing, so the | :09:51. | :09:59. | |
Daily Telegraph has found this out. I question why they do this kind of | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
thing. I think it is quite legitimate, corrupt football. OK, | :10:05. | :10:11. | |
right. Aspirin cannot help 1 million heart patients, apparently. The | :10:12. | :10:18. | |
received wisdom from the NHS was that the few aspirin can help some | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
people but in some distances it has been a problem. We are in an era | :10:23. | :10:30. | |
where health stories are going to be really big because the population is | :10:31. | :10:33. | |
ageing and these stories are coming out. In some instances. It is | :10:34. | :10:44. | |
apparently said that aspirin, but people with certain heart | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
conditions, is now a bad thing. How are we supposed to read these sorts | :10:50. | :10:51. | |
of things, if your doctor is telling you to do it? You don't get the | :10:52. | :10:58. | |
information from your GP, you read about it and how are you supposed to | :10:59. | :11:03. | |
deal with it? By close reading of the copy I don't think they are | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
saying that aspirin is bad for you, they are saying that a new | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
generation of drugs may be better. I think the broader point is quite | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
clear, there has been endless and advice about the wonder drug and how | :11:15. | :11:19. | |
it benefits all people over a certain age. I think there are mixed | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
messages coming and let's be clear where the story is coming from, new | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
guidelines from the National Institute for clinical excellence, | :11:30. | :11:31. | |
the body to decide whether to hand out new drugs to the NHS. I think | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
people have the right to feel a little bit confused. I think they | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
are guilty of mixed messages. That was my point. The Daily Mail, Jeremy | :11:42. | :11:49. | |
Hunt, the Health Secretary, banning cosmetic surgery on the NHS, that's | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
the message he gave out. And the Daily Express, migrants playing for | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
NHS. This coming out of a press conference given by Jeremy Hunt, so | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
the papers have picked up the few leads. Jeremy Hunt appeared before | :12:05. | :12:11. | |
the press gallery earlier today, there are the lobby lunches when | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
they have a bite to eat and answer a few questions and give a speech. He | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
spoke about how migrants are going to pay for the NHS and a possible | :12:19. | :12:25. | |
ban on cosmetic surgery. We had a bit of an exchange in that question | :12:26. | :12:32. | |
and answer session as well. In November, Jeremy Hunt gave an on the | :12:33. | :12:35. | |
record interview to the times when he said | :12:36. | :12:36. | |
record interview to the times when he that all GPs would have their | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
salaries published. This closed, because some of them are pretty | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
high. They few days later we see that the Department of Health have | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
said that they might not do that `` disclosed. Today I asked him, were | :12:50. | :12:58. | |
you telling the truth, although your officials, and he answered "both". | :12:59. | :13:05. | |
And on the McCord interview with The Times, undermined by his answers | :13:06. | :13:15. | |
today. `` on the record. If you read the story, Jeremy Hunt actually said | :13:16. | :13:19. | |
it should no longer be available, so it isn't going to be a band, of | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
course. For the Daily Mail it is their meat and drink. Also, drunks | :13:24. | :13:29. | |
in accident and emergency don't deserve to be treated, it says. It | :13:30. | :13:37. | |
is a bunch of speculation that has been turned into headlines. Maybe | :13:38. | :13:44. | |
Michael Gove's wife is bidding for her husband to become the Health | :13:45. | :13:53. | |
Secretary. He is leaving her? Oh, right! That is not happening! Thank | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
you for joining us. At the top of the hour, the Sunni | :13:58. | :14:16. | |
Muslim and concise is getting closer to Baghdad. Now it is time for the | :14:17. | :14:18. | |
sports. I'm | :14:19. | :14:32. | |
John Acres. Brazil draw a blank in game two, as Mexico keeper | :14:33. | :14:47. | |
Ochoa keeps them at bay in a 0`0 | :14:48. | :14:51. |