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Northern Ireland have taken part in the annual parades by the Orange

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order, the most significant day of the Protestant marching calendar.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing

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us tomorrow. With me are David Akinsanya, campaigner and

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broadcaster and Vincent Moss, Political Editor of the Sunday

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Mirror. Tomorrow's front pages, starting with... The Observer leads

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with Archbishop Tutu's support for those seeking a change in assisted

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dying laws. The Mail on Sunday carries heavy criticism of a new

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Channel 4 drama due to air tomorrow night which fictionalises the real

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life IRA killing of Tory MP Airey Neave in 1979. The Independent on

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Sunday says Child Abuse victims are to sue the government over a lack of

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victim support. And the Telegraph says Tony Blair may be called to

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Parliament to explain what assurances were given to Sinn Fein

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to reassure 'on the run' IRA members they weren't wanted by the Police.

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Let's begin with the Independent. An exclusive article and a special

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report saying that child abuse victims are set to sue the

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government. Legal action over horrific impact of questioning by

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police and a lack of counseling. Inside the paper, it mentions a

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particular child abuse victim who has chosen not to be named who says

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that the pain is so great and that it was such a horrific experience

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having to relive it that he needs to try to move on. How can they sue the

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government and under what law? He is saying under human rights law. The

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government did not give them a safe place to live. That is where they're

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going to go with it. The problem is that, I just think that we will hear

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more about this. Even in this article, roughly five local

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authorities are mentioned here over issues that have not been dealt

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with. We all know about what was going on in Jersey. And these

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victims have struggled throughout their adult lives and they

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understand when you see this in the paper that it is brought back. They

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may very well need counseling and support through this. His guy is

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saying that he can do it because he doesn't have a family but imagine if

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you are settled into your family life and this stuff comes back to

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bite you. It really is awful. The very children that we are taking

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away from parents to look after we'd been exposed to this kind of abuse.

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While their lives may settle down, if the opportunity came for these

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people to have some kind of red dress, you would be torn wouldn't

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you? `` redress. I could have sued but what I wanted was an apology and

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an acknowledgment of what happened because you can send yourself a bit

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mad, thinking that no one would listen to you or believe you. I

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think people should have the right to sue but the problem is that the

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more people who do that, the money will come out of children's services

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and so I am not sure if it would be a good thing. The point is that the

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time is right for this because we are having investigations and

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convictions. The conditions are such that victims will finally be

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listened to. The culture has changed after 13 years of being told that

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they were making it up or fantasizing, people are starting to

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listen `` 30. This man is not from a home that has been featured in the

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past he comes from a home in Richmond in Southwest London. It is

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kind of symptomatic of what we're going to be seeing which is more

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allegations involving more homes and schools and which go right into the

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heart of the British establishment. There is coverage of this and many

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of the Sunday papers and they involve senior members of the

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government and the Thatcher era. These were people involved that were

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so powerful at the time. We have a story tomorrow of people so powerful

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that they were able to dismiss all the allegations and brush them aside

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and nothing was ever done. Finally those victims are going to have

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their story listen to and it is about time. All sorts of different

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political parties, not just one was it? They close ranks and protected

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each other. Definitely. Alleged rings of people within all parties

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and the House of Commons and the House of Lords, the judiciary, and

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this is what is going to make the inquiry said difficult because there

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are already suggestions about whether or not the invigilator will

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be able to do it because of her legs to the establishment. Who would be

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most suitable? `` links. I would like to see someone involved in the

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care system because they would have the knowledge regarding what goes on

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in the inside. They can really understand what the modus operandi

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was. And that was that it was OK for you to abuse children in care.

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Moving on to the Observer. Desmond Tutu on the side of assisted death.

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Lord Carey has already said that he would support this bill which would

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give doctors the right to administer a lethal dose to someone who is

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terminally ill and no longer wanted to live and now we have Desmond

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Tutu, known around the world as an eminent religious leader, making a

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similar sort of plea and referring to what he saw his friend, Nelson

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Mandela go through. He says that it was disgraceful the way Nelson

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Mandela was treated shortly before his death at the age of 95 and this

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is something that I had heard about that people close to him were

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actually charging or trying to get money out of visiting politicians

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for the 10th of a photo opportunity with him. `` chance. If you were a

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foreign leader, and let's face it, all foreign leaders did want a

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picture of themselves next to Nelson Mandela, that his people were trying

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to charge for access to Nelson Mandela. Desmond Tutu goes on to say

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that he is for a dignity for living and four dignity in death. He says

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that he reveres the sanctity of life but not at any cost so he has

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started to come down and show a shift in thinking about the church

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at least looking at the idea of assisted suicide. A huge step

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forward for anything to take to cause all of their teachings are to

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the contrary. It is not just the Christian church. Others have rules

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as well. As someone who is not religious, we spend a lot of money

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trying to save people when, if they were left to the hands of God, they

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might have died. But I think the thing about human dignity is the

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most important thing. If I was left in a vegetative state, I would not

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want to live and I know that. But if you are not terminally ill and in a

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vegetative state, is bill would not help you and that is where this bill

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draws the line. And it is being debated in the House of Lords next

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Friday. The Telegraph, Tony Blair and the IRA. He faces being summoned

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before Parliament to explain the secret deals made with Sinn Fein to

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assure suspects on the run that they were not wanted by the police. He

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has been accused of dodging investigations of this affair. Very

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shocking when this came out, romped it by a court case that could not go

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ahead. I think many members of the public work shocked by this. I was

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listening to the radio yesterday and I heard Gerry Adams singing and the

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difference between what he was and what he has become, the distance he

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has travelled to get here and the peace that has been in Northern

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Ireland for the last few years, we have all appreciated that. It seems

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a shame that all of this will be dragged up again but I do think that

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he needs to explain to people what the deal was because it does seem

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that it was backhanded and it wasn't transparent. He has given some

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evidence to the inquiry about this but it looks as though some of that

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will remain private. As with anything involving Tony Blair, it

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seems as though large parts of what he says or did at the time may not

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be public and there is increasing pressure on him to reveal what

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happened and that is why he is wanted to explain these so`called

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comfort letters to these IRA suspects. What exactly he did with

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Gerry Adams, what was said and what they've read and private. I'm not

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entirely sure that that would be beneficial `` agreed. But there is

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pressure to reveal it. Get therapy or have state benefits. Hundreds of

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thousands of people are perhaps suffering from anxiety or depression

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which may be reducing their chances of getting a job and ministers are

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suggesting that, if they aren't prepared to undergo counseling or

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therapy, they will have their benefits reduced. You have to be

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ready to have it if it is offered to you. You will not be able to turn it

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down, it would seem. That is the key. Nearly half of people who are

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on disability have issues with anxiety and depression and in order

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to get over those issues, the counseling could be helpful but many

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can't get it at the moment. Where the money would come from to do this

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and whether they would be offered it rather than being threatened with it

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remains to be seen. If the therapy was there, I guess that would be a

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great thing. This says that it is based on government figures, the

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state spends up to ?1.4 billion a year. All of the things the

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government has done... They're tried to save this money from unemployment

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but actually, this counseling will cost money and where is it going to

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come from? That is the problem. It just feels punitive, something to

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have a go at the unemployed again without actually backing it up

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without some kind of system. It is a bit like a moot point. It is not

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going to make it easy. Here it says, if you have people with treatable

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conditions, surely you should treat them? I have friends who are off

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work with depression and they still have to fill in the forms and go to

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the job Centre and they go into job interviews... Wouldn't this give

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them a way out? You have the health minister saying that it is not a

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sensible idea. The idea that you cart someone off to therapy and

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threaten them with a loss of benefits, it simply won't work. He

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is the health minister. Staying with the Telegraph. The day of destiny

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for Lionel Messi. He is one of the most popular football players in the

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world, lining up against Germany tonight. Is it tonight? Note,

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tomorrow. `` no. Has the World Cup held your attention this time? It

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did in the early days with the hope that England might do OK but when

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they got squashed out, not really. Marginally, I suppose I hope

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Argentina does it because it would be fantastic for Lionel Messi that

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the money seems to be on the Germans. Not interested? I will say

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Germany just to say something. I liked it when Costa Rica within. I

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like when there is an underdog to cheer for `` was in. A bit

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disappointed now. That is all for this hour. Thank you to my guests.

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Stay with us. At midnight, the missiles continue to fly. The latest

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in the conflict between Israel and Hamas militants but coming up next,

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World Cup Sportsday.

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