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result. Many have taken place in the annual

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parades of the Orange Order. It is the most significant stage in the

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Protestant marching order. `` marching calendar.

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Welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will

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With me are David Akinsanya, campaigner and broadcaster

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and Vincent Moss, political editor of the Sunday Mirror. Tomorrow's

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front pages. It leads with Archbishop Tutu's support for those

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issuing `` wanting a change. Criticism of a Channel four drama

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which fictionalised as the IRA killing of Tory MP Airey Neave in

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1979. And child abuse victims to sue the

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government of a lack of victim support.

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And the Sunday Telegraph says Tony Blair may be called to Parliament to

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rear `` to explain what advice was given to reassure on the run IRA

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members that they would not be prosecuted. Let's start with the

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Independent on Sunday. Child abuse victims to sue government,

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exclusive. Legal impact `` embattled questioning on the victims. And lack

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of action. It speaks to one of the alleged victims about the kind of

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experience he has had a trying to get justice in the criminal justice

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system. David, this story will have huge interest for you. Yes. Just

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watching the stuff over the last couple of weeks it has been

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interesting to see that we are now looking at people `` at the places

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people have been worried about for a long time. They used to be an

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association called the National Association of Young people in care

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and they lost funding from the government because a lot of people

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were coming to them and say to them about what was going on and giving

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them names and evidence. And one of the people who worked for that

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organisation at her house raided for that information. This was going up

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`` this was going on for a long time. Lots of people like me in the

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care system who were physically and sexually abused. For people like me

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it is great to see this happening. I hope they get to the bottom of it.

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Vincent, it seems that any kind of claim would be made under the

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European Convention of human rights that they were not given access to

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justice and not believed. Absolutely the case. Victims have been making

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this point for decades have have been ignored. This particular case

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refers to a fitting in a care home in Richmond in south`west London.

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The point is that this man `` the point is this man says he thought he

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had built a safe world and it was taken away from him. He says that

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victims can come forward but there will be afraid of coming forward

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because all the pain will have to be relived. He is single so he is not

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in as bad a place as people with families who would be putting them

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through that trauma. I expect it is only the first tranche of many

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victims we will see coming forward complaining about abuse in care

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homes. We are seeing it in schools and my own paper the Sunday Mirror

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is reporting on Sunday about right at the heart of the British

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establishment, people involved in abusing young people. What sort of

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justice to victims won't? We heard from victims of Rolf Harris, they

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were saying that the sentence did not matter, it was having the story

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believed. Absolutely. The reason I did not sue Essex social services

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for what happened to me is because I got a five page apology letter from

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them. But the local authority were told not to apologise because then I

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could sue. But they did apologise. When that was enough. I did think

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about suing, but I thought where will that come from, children and

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services. Let's move on to the Observer.

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Bishop Tutu supports assisted dying. This is the story about whether

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doctors should have the ability to issue a terminal dose to somebody

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who no longer wants to live. We have heard from George Carey in the last

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couple of days, changing his mind about assisted dying for the

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terminally ill, not people with other illnesses from which they

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would like to escape. Here we have somebody from the world stage,

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Desmond Tutu, saying something similar. Very much so. The Observer

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took on this story quite successfully. Desmond Tutu wrote an

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article for the Observer. He says it is time for a mind shift in this and

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he says he has revered the sanctity of life throughout his career but

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not at any cost. And you want this issue looked at. And it is coming up

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next week in the House of Lords when Lord Falconer will be raising it

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again and pushing for a mind shift as Desmond Tutu says. And many

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people, including those in the church who have resisted it for

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decades, are starting to come round. He talked about how his

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friend Nelson Mandela was treated and we know he was kept alive for a

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long time and we were wondering when they were finally going to let him

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go. He says here that he underwent numerous painful hospitalisations,

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forced to endure a photo stunt with politicians just shortly before he

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died. That is something we did not know about. That was shocking to

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hear that about Nelson Mandela. You can understand why when we know the

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games that politicians play. It is sad. I could talk about this in

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terms of people I know. The bottom line is, I cannot imagine wanting to

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be in a situation where I can't care for myself. I think a lot of people

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have that thought. If we start talking about it... It is an

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important issue for the church but a lot of these people dashing a lot of

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people in this country are not involved in church and they're

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thinking about personal issues. I would not want to live if I were not

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able to enjoy my life. We talked about this before from, it is so

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difficult for the church as well. Judaism and Islam does not agree

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with assisted dying but religions tried to remain relevant to their

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congregations. If their congregation's attitude shifts, then

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the faith has got some thinking to do. It is also important to remember

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that the church only represents a portion of society. Many people are

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not particularly religious. Many people would like to have a say in

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how they spend their final weeks. There needs to be a voice for those

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as well. That is what Lord Falconer will be trying to do next Friday.

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The church has an important voice, but not the only voice. Let's go to

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the Sunday Telegraph. Three stories, they always do us proud. The lead

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story, Blair must explain IRA deals. Tony Blair coming under pressure to

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appear before Parliament to expend secret deals he made with the Sinn

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Fein to assure some people they will not wanted by police. A trial

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collapsed because this evidence came to light. Tony Blair always says he

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is too busy to answer questions. That is rather Tony Blair's mantra

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when it comes all of things! These are related to the so`called comfort

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letters and the details behind those. Tony Blair has an private

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explained what went on in those historic days when deals were done

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to try to get peace in Northern Ireland and he is under renewed

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pressure to go before the Northern Ireland committee and explain

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exactly what happened. I am sure he will not be sure to do every last

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detail of that but there is mounting pressure for him to do that and

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explain what he agreed to. A loss of us were quite shocked when that came

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out, that these promises and been made, members of the general public.

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We are pleased that things can't down in Northern Ireland and there

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was a long period that we were very happy. You saw people shopping

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without fear of bombing. But when it comes down to it, people need to

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explain themselves and because this is going to cause us lots of problem

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in the future, he should come forward and explain himself. You

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wonder what impact it will have in destabilising different communities

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if questions are asked of him and he explains some of the background?

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Exactly. Although Tony Blair has a good track record of appearing on

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stands and appearing eminently plausible so he will find a way of

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talking his way out of trouble. I am sure `` I am not sure how much it

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will benefit the situation to go to much into the anatomy of all of

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these talks. I am sure people would like to have historical reasons, to

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see people involved in terrorism brought to justice, but be careful

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what you wish for, sometimes. The Home Office did say that if any new

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evidence were to come to light, it is not covered by these previous

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assurances. It did not mean that they could not in future be

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prosecutions. Exactly. That remains the case. Whether or not Tony Blair

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appears before these MPs. Another story, take therapy or have your

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benefits cut. Thousands of benefit claimants with `` stripped of their

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benefits unless they have treatment for anxiety or depression. People

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who are unemployed have complex needs and reasons why they do not

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have a job, not just the reason that they have not been able to keep a

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job. And does the maths and up? It was up in the long one? It is

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punitive. A lot of the people I know who cannot go for work still under

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the same rules as other benefit claimants, so they are not let off

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completely. No idea from this article where the money would come

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from? Exactly. And talking about people who are on employment support

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allowance who have anxiety or depression and with treatment, you

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could get them back into work. We have seen this in the bedroom tax.

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Iain Duncan Smith is very good at coming up with the first part of the

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agreement which is coming `` cutting people 's money, but the therapy,

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I'm sure they will be encouraging people back to work who have severe

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depression but will they provide the therapy that is needed? I severely

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doubt it. What about other people who might think therapy is nonsense

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and we should just sort themselves out, pull themselves up and get on

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with it. I suspect that is closer to Iain Duncan Smith's Andy Department

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for Work and Pensions's feed. But suggesting therapy is the opposite.

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They are not suggesting how they will pay for it. And Norman Lamb has

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already been quoted as not thinking it is a sensible idea. Finally with

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the Telegraph, cometh the hour, day of destiny for Lionel Messi. The

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world's most lauded footballer will line up at the Maracana Stadium in

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the World Cup final to take on the Germans. Your money on? The Germans!

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I wonder how many people in Brazil will want Argentina to win because

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they are their neighbours or whether there is a rivalry like there is

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between England and Scotland as Mac it is hard to say but I think it is

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hard that I think it is interesting that the Telegraph shows and a

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picture of Lionel Messi celebrating. I had Brazil in the sweepstakes so

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I'm already out of it. Will you be watching? No. Not bothered? If

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England were playing. Only because I felt I had to. No? I don't think so,

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I have lost interest now. I shall be glued to it. Believe that, you'll

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believe anything! That if the papers for now, but David and Vincent will

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be back with us at 11:30pm. For another look at the stories making

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the front pages. Stay with us because missiles continue to fly.

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Coming up next, reporters.

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