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Rennick sisters triumph. And the rest of the action on an eventful

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evening in the pool. Hello and welcome to

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our look ahead to what the papers With me are the broadcaster

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David Davies and the political Two super heavyweights. Are you

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happy with me referring to you in that way? I think David has more

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weight than me on him. We will argue over classifications later.

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The Telegraph's main headline is the news that Britain has

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the fastest`growing economy of the main developed countries,

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The Express has the Queen at the Commonwealth Games on their front

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If you can see in the corner of that box, the Queen has snuck into a

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selfie being taken by the Australian hockey team.

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The Independent splits it's front page between a picture

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of injured children in Gaza and claims that new Government

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figures show that council tax rises are hitting Britain's poor hardest.

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Gaza features on the front page of the Metro too, with an arresting

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picture of a grief`stricken father who's son has died in the shelling.

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And the Guardian continues their story about hygiene

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The paper says the health secretary is demanding an investigation

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Let's begin with news that will be very pleasing to the Chancellor. The

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UK has the fastest`growing economy, growing faster than those of other

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major developed nations according to the International Monetary Fund.

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This will be interesting reading, because it was only last year that

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the IMF was saying that his policies were not a sensible idea? No, they

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will be delighted in the Treasury over the story. Nobody seems to be

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denying it is true. It is good news. Even Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls, for

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once, seems to be accepting that growth is racing ahead. You can look

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it into microwaves. As you say, a year ago, the IMF were warning that

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Mr Osborne, the Chancellor, was playing with fire and there should

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be a and B. Now they are saying they are moving through faster. If they

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got it wrong a year ago, they could be getting it wrong today! Why do we

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take them so seriously? Well, we took them seriously when they were

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not particularly complimentary? Well, I share Lance's cynicism about

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some of the figures. Even though the IMF, I see, I love the language, and

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upside surprise, it calls the news. The figures are new, but the fact

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this has been happening and we have been outperforming countries like

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America, like Brazil, like South Africa, that is not new. The

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interesting thing for me is if the government is going to get the

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credit for this next May. Now, Lance is better qualified than I am to say

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that. My view is that they may well do. But events, dear boy, between

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now and May, who knows what? The chief economist at PwC has said this

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upgrade is a symbolic upgrade. But he says the recovery is not yet

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sustainable. It's still a shaky recovery, the economy is still

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fragile. It is not surging ahead. The question is how deep the growth

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goes and how many sectors of the economy at effects. It does not

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automatically translate into political support. In 1997, when my

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old boss Tony Blair swept to power, any fair observer would say that the

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economy had been growing strongly under the Conservatives in the year

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or so, more than a year before the election. But it wasn't enough?

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Interesting, I would be interested to hear how you play this in

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opposition. If there is some good economic data, which everybody says

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they want because they want everybody to benefit from it, how do

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you judge the reaction to it? You don't want to be too effusive. There

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is a real debate, and you can tell it has been going on in the Labour

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leadership. Most of the time, Ed Balls is pretty curmudgeonly. He is

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curmudgeonly about a lot of things. Of course, it is his job to oppose

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the Chancellor and shoulder problems there are. He seems to be changing

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tack. If anybody would listen to me, which they don't, I would advise,

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you do say that things are getting better, they could have got better a

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lot quicker and Britain could still be in a much stronger position. The

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question is, do people out in the country, particularly outside London

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and the south`east, do they feel this? Do they feel, hey, it matters

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that we are doing better than the United States, than Brazil, than

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South Africa? Or is this still a south`east, London and London thing?

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Let's stay with The Telegraph. Gold Rush rescues the summer of sport. A

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clutch of gold medals, of course, they have been won by Scotland and

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England. There are pictures of some of those lucky winners. Alistair

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Brownlee, at the top, he beat his brother in the triathlon. Jodie

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Stimpson, lower left, the first gold of the games in the women's event.

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Sophie Thornhill and her guide, Helen Scott, winning the women's

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sprint tandem finals. Allow me to help. Here we are. We are doing this

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more and more often, I rather like it. Who was this? Ashley Mckenzie

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took gold in the judo. We also saw Ross Murdoch beat Michael Jamieson

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in the men's 200 metres. So, the Scots have had some success. Perhaps

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in Scotland they may notice that it is a lot of English success on the

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front page of the Daily Telegraph. But, hey, before Lance says it, it

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is not a vintage year for British sport. But things are on the up.

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Rory McIlroy, supporters of his in golf, they will confirm that. There

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is the Ryder Cup to come. Perhaps the BBC Sports Personality Of The

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Year will be a serious short list, as opposed to an effective short

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list of one. But this is a fantastic event. You know, it will be

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interesting. One or two of the papers, and we might talk about it

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later on, they are starting the undertones of what impact it will

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have on the referendum debate. At the moment, there are some fantastic

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sporting performances going on. Yes, they are coming from home nations at

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the moment. The cartoonist on the Telegraph has already interwoven

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sport and politics. It looks like the judo, is it judo? Anyway, in the

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judo arena. Is this judo or a discussion about keeping the pound?

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Inevitably, it will have an impact on the way that we see the games,

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because of this referendum not very far away. Because we are only weeks

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away from the referendum and the games are taking place in Glasgow.

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That is the link, that is all you need to say. We were talking about

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the impact of the economy, the impact of sport on how people vote

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is much harder to read. Is it a great occasion for Scotland, so it

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shows how well Scotland could do culturally, sporting, by themselves?

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Or does it show what Scotland is able to do while in the United

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Kingdom anyway, so why bother with independence? Let's move on to the

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independent, council tax rises hit Britain's poor hardest. More than 2

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million of the poorest people in England are facing rising tax

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demands because the government is cutting further into the benefit

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system. Some of these people would have been protected from having to

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pay the whole council tax bill. The full consequences of this

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government's welfare reforms, Iain Duncan Smith's welfare reforms, they

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are still emerging several years after they were introduced. You

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know, this story, in its own way, millions of families on blowing

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firms have received council tax demands for the first time. The

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impact that remains to be seen. Are they people... Again, we get back to

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the earlier subject, are they people that are going to vote come next

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May? Are they people who are not going to support the government

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anyway? All of those questions come into it. It's interesting that the

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impact of the welfare reforms, some of which people across the board

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have supported, some of which, certainly, the bedroom tax being the

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best example, they most certainly haven't. What the impact will be

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will be interesting. If they can't pay they will be taken to court? In

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London, 16,000 people had been referred to bailiffs for nonpayment.

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If you aren't the impact of the changes to council tax on housing

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benefit, the number of people affected is enormous. Some of those

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people, if they are in work, will have benefited from the raising tax

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allowances. But people never voted to say thank you for something that

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they have been given. They certainly remember what has been taken away

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from them. Let's stay with the independent and we will look at this

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and The Metro together. Understandably, what is happening in

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Gaza is on the front page of many papers. Not even a UN school is

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safe, and human appalled by the attack, that is how the Independent

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is reporting it. A picture of a grief stricken father of a boy

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killed in the shelling. An investigation was being carried out

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by Israel into how this. `` how this happened. It does now appear that

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Israel is preparing to admit it probably was one of its missiles?

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Yes, they seem to be changing their story as the day went on. One of the

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other papers, the Guardian, they have been detailing the tweets that

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the IDF was putting out. Latterly, they did seem to be accepting it was

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their responsibility. We have been here before. The last time there was

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a major assault on Gaza, almost copycat, there was a missile strike

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on a school. It was where the United Nations had a school and they were

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trying to get the civilians out. I think the Israelis factor in

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international outrage into their decisions on this. They know what

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the response is going to be. They know that the front pages of

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newspapers all over the world are going to be screaming out what they

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are screaming now. But they still think they have to do what they have

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to do. I don't know what you think about this, but there are very

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impressive spokespeople on their behalf who come across a very often,

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as very reasonable and, on the one hand, on the other, and yet,

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tonight, it was a very difficult case for their spokesperson to make.

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He was, right, as you say, edging towards, well, perhaps it was us.

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The warning had gone out, there was supposed to be an opportunity to get

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people out, and then that was never actually given? I never know how

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that works. How do you know how long it is going to take for people to

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get out? And where do they shelter anyway, if half of the Gaza Strip is

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a no`go area by Israel's own admission? It was the United Nations

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themselves trying to negotiate with the Israelis about when a strike

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might start. The Israelis issued a warning that civilians should be

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moved away from the area. The UN also have very good spokespeople and

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make a very good case for trying to defend civilians in war zones. You

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know, clearly, they are outraged by the way that the Israelis had been

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behaving. There will come a point when they think that they have taken

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it far enough and international outrage is too great, we have to

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stop? I haven't planned a campaign like this and I hope I never have to

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get involved in that sort of thing. They will calculate how far they

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need to go to achieve their military objectives, they will calculate the

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response of the international media, because they have been there before,

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they have seen it before and they know this sort of tragic incident is

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going to happen. They will have in the back of their minds, even if it

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is not on paper, what the tolerance level, at which point they have to

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say, we have achieved all we have been able to achieve.

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Your interview with the Hamas leader. He is edging towards at

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least a temporary ceasefire. These events, however awful they are, tend

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not... They tend not to last endlessly. You know, you sense

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they're moving in a direction towards some sort of a temporary

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ceasefire. Let's hope you are right. That is it for The Papers this hour.

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David and Lance will be with us again at 11.30pm for a look at the

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stories making the front pages. Coming up next. It's time for

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Sportsday. Hello, and welcome to Commonwealth

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Games Sportsday, I'm Katie Gornall. Scotland rule the pool as

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Ross Murdoch snatches Gold from the It's a sister act in the Judo

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as Kimberly and Louise Renicks

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