26/07/2014 The Papers

Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

With me are the columnist for The Independent,

Yasmin Alibhai`Brown and James Millar from the Sunday Post.

Good evening both. The front pages. The striking image on the Observer.

A Palestinian woman in the rubble of Gaza pleading for help from the

outside world. The Mail on Sunday claims the new Defence Secretary,

Michael Fallon is at the centre of a row after allegedly calling a female

writer in a bar "a sluut." The paper says he later apologised. The Sunday

Telegraph, reports that families of the victims of flight MH17 may sue

President Putin for his alleged links to the pro`Russian rebels in

Ukraine who are said to have shot down the passenger plane. The lead

in the Sunday Times is the call by the Deputy Prime Minister to strip

Russia of the 2018 World Cup following the shooting down of the

yet. And instant test for cancer is the headline in the Sunday Express.

. Mitt Now the Observer. We have seen people coming out of hide,

James, going back to what they Shaw thought would be their homes to find

that everything has gone? Yeah. The important word is there "a pause",

unfortunately, as you said, the ceasefire seems to have broken down.

We're heading back to square one again. It's a nice enough piece. It

covers all the bases. I get the slight feeling there are no words to

really convey the horror of what he is seeing. He says that, "it's a

moon scape from which the smell of death at times wafted" terrible for

all concerned out there. Trying to retrieve the dead will be

impossible. Hamas have GUNFIRing rockets. They don't believe an

extension of the truce is in their interests? I think now, you know,

there is just no way, I personally, and most other people in this

country, would talk about Hamas in the same breath as what Israel has

been inflicting because it's so disproportionate. Actually, that's

what this eyewitness is also saying. You know, he actually says, "we have

to decide whether this was proportionate or if the destruction

amounts to a war crime." I think, you know, this is the month of

Ramadan. It's Eid on Monday. This awaits the people of Gaza. I don't

know when it's going to end. I think we can't let this go on, talk in

equal terms. In terms of what Hamas is doing. I have no ` I'm not allied

to the Hamas rockets or anything, but it is so disproportionate now we

have to talk about what this Israeli government. It's not all Israeli

governments, but certainly this Israeli government is pushing things

to a point where, it's appalling. We understand the Israeli public are in

favour of what the government is doing, to try to protect them from

the rockets that land in their territory, fired from Gaza. We were

speaking last night to a journalist who says the Israeli public aren't

being shown the papers we are seeing? Yeah. I think part of it is

the horror of it, you feel so helpless. This has been going on for

so long. We are seeing awful pictures. Reading the words. Nothing

anybody here does or says or indeed seems politicians from around the

world do or say, is changing anything, for either side. I mean,

you know, it's a moral maze, isn't it? Hamas have started firing

rockets back into Israel. They know the result of that is going to be.

It will be Israel piling in again. I'm sorry, after what we've seen,

children, places where children were taking refuge. Imagine if you were

there and I was there, and you were witnessing this, tell me, our rage

would not be absolute. You know, I'm trying to put myself into that

position where children. There are no Israeli children, thank God, who

have been killed in the latest. There have not been Israeli women.

Thank God, who have been killed. We have seen far too much devastation

in the civilian communities. Here, I don't know whether this is an

accurate figure or not, in one of the papers it is was reported that

only 15% of Britons now, a YouGov poll showed, approve of what Israel

is doing. It's not right. You are still dealing with an organisation

that is regarded as a group of terrorists, Hamas, who don't even

believe that Israel has a right to exist? OK. I accept that Hamas has

not been ` actually Hamas is not good for the Palestinian people.

Even so, you know, we had the IRA. We had the IRA for years and years

and years. We did not do what the Israeli government is doing. We

didn't, did we? We didn't send bombs into civilian areas in Northern

Ireland. We didn't resolve the conflict quickly, did we? We did not

attack civilians? What happened was essentially, eventually, something

had to change. That's what happens ` that is the thing here. Everybody `

it's not almost that everyone is as bad as each other. There issen issue

of proportion al. Somebody on either side needs to stand up and say `

this is not the way to go. It's been going on `` Pursue peace. . Gaza has

been squeezed, humiliated. Its resources... You can't treat a

people like this. I'm so shocked that people with this history learnt

the wrong lessons from their own history. I admire Israelis standing

up. There are a lot of very good Israeli people, wonderful writers,

who have spoken out and written about this for years. But at the

moment they are powerless. They are powerless in Israel to do anything.

I will move you on to another story on the Observer. That could take up

the whole review, couldn't it, that story. So much to say, or not say.

NHS managers paid ?1.6 billion in layoff deals since 2010. The cost of

the redundancy payments to NHS managers who then, it seems, Yasmin,

few weeks later, few months later, come back either full`time or

part`time contracts? We are in the wrong job, aren't we? This is what

we should have got into, become managers. I mean, the figure is

startling. ?1.6 billion! Yeah. It's a lot of money, isn't it? A lot of

managers. A lot of managers. If they are getting rid of them and rehiring

doesn't it mean they need them in the first place. That it was the

wrong reform? If you paid them money, they go away, the service is

better and leaner and cheaper, great. Clearly, they need to go.

They are coming back, yet it would appear there are certain indicators

that the service is not getting better. There are issues about A

waiting list times, for example, and stuff like that. So the sort of

conclusion perhaps is that a lot of money is being spent to no real end.

Now some of the Trusts are in real crisis, aren't they? A number of

Trusts which are almost bankrupt. This figure, when you consider that

particular situation really makes no sense at all. Yeah a lot of nurses

wages or A units or maternity units, whatever. The Sunday

Telegraph, British lawyers say the Russian President could face a class

action for his links to separatists who are thought to have shot down

this plane. We are still in the investigation stages. Bodies haven't

been recovered, you might understand the feeling you want to take legal

action. How realistic could this be Not very. A lot of people on Sunday

Telegraph have gone on holiday. They would like to get a splash about the

airliner. The strongest line they can come up with is the potential

for a lawsuit. They are not really going to sue Putin. The intention

sends a message, doesn't it? No, lawyers are having a field day. We

had a similar thing tried with Lockerbie all those years ago, it

came to nothing. This one makes less sense. The courts in America,

British lawyers and American lawyers, how will they get the

leader of Russia to even attend? It'ses... Not fair to the families

actually to give them this kind of false hope. That is it. Yeah. The if

we look at the picture on the Sunday Telegraph, "worth the wait"

congratulations to Zoe Smith. The moment she realises she has won

Commonwealth Gold in Glasgow, beating her Welsh rival. Not only

can she left heavyweights she can do backward somer sets, she used to be

a gymnast. Brilliantly caught. Mail on Sunday. This is a woman who is a

columnist, has a book to sell, referring in the Mail to something

that Michael Fallon, the new Defence Secretary said to her some years

ago, James. Not a current story, is it? Well, it's a current story. He

has been promoted. That's the kind of new thing, I suppose. Also, as

you mentioned, she has a book out to publicise. A Cabinet Minister

calling a woman "a slut" is a bad thing. No doubt about that. The

question is, he didn't, by anybody's account, just say, "you're a slut"

or anything like that. He was referring to her column in which she

would, apparently, tell of her one night stands,, drug taking and

long`running affair with a married man. Her friends called her that. I

can't believe I am' saying this on TV. Funniest PR ideals. Make a fuss,

for a newly appointed Secretary of State. Who doesn't like Michael

Fallon. I think she's been very clever. I don't think it's that

serious. One of the best`selling papers in this country has bitten.

Again, it's holiday time. But, what is so striking though, I think, is

the content of this book. Which is, in my view, fairly risquee. Not

something you would be writing. I should be so lucky. The Sunday Post.

This is talking about the twin sister of Mikaeel who was killed by

his mum in January. He has now been convicted. We were reporting that

yesterday. A battle over who should have custody of his twin sister,

James? An absolutely horrific story in the first place and it gets worse

with now the father of the remaining twin and his father, the

grandfather, apparently, battling for custody of her. It's going to

make that ` that little girl is in a terrible situation. It will only

make it worse. A family that is not really showing the signs of

stability you would want? No the grandfather says he doesn't think

his son, the lifestyle his son leads, makes him worthy really of

getting this child. A twin. I mean, this is so tragic. The so tragic.

Let us finish with the Sunday Times. Strip Russia of the World Cup,

Clegg. Pull the plug on Putin or look weak. Nick Clegg trying to get

the World Cup to be taken from Russia. Supposed to be staged there

in 2018 following the shooting down of the Malaysian airlines jet. Will

FIFA feel inclined to do this? No. Basically. Dealt with. If Putin

wasn't worried about a lawsuit that is not going to happen. He will

hardly be worried about Nick Clegg saying take away the World Cup. I

don't think FIFA or President Putin, unfor too you anywayly are listening

to him. It's a long time ago. A long time away. FIFA... What more can we

say about FIFA? Is they will be outraged about this! No, I don't

think so. I don't think so. That dealt with that then. Several

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