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rush at the European athletics championships in Swansea, and the


European swimming in Berlin. That is all in Sportsday, in 15 minutes,


after the papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers


will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are Neil Midgley, media


commentator from Forbes.com and the political commentator and journalist


Miranda Green. Tomorrow's front pages, starting with: The Financial


Times pictures how rail fares will rise 3.5% from January, in another


above`inflation increase. The Telegraph says husbands who bully or


intimidate their partners could be jailed under a new offence of


domestic abuse. The I quotes research which suggest the majority


of English voters want Scotland to remain part of the UK. The Daily


Mail claims nurses are being asked to question elderly patients about


whether they would agree to a 'do not resuscitate' order. 'Private


patient income soars at NHS trusts' is the headline on the front of the


Guardian. The Daily Express also leads on house prices. It says the


average home has risen 23,000 pounds in a year. The Times leads on


allegations in the High Court concerning the mayor of Tower


Hamlets in London. And the Scotsman quotes Alex Salmond as saying he


would be prepared to give up his political career if that was the


price of gaining an independent Scotland. We will talk about that a


little bit later on. What we will start with the Daily Mail. Do you


want us to let you die? That is the headline. Nurses on home visits told


to ask elderly patients if this is what they would want. It is a great


Daily Mail splash, do you want us to let you die? Nurses are making home


visits to patients, elderly patients, and filling in a form,


which is part of a scheme to keep people out of hospital apparently


and improve care for the elderly. But as part of this, patients are


being asked whether they will sign a DNR. This is one of those issues


where if the system works as it should, this is all right. If your


heart stops beating, many don't want special measures. Many people who


are very old don't want that, they consider that time is up. The


question is whether the system always works as it should. What the


Daily Mail is pointing out is that some vulnerable elderly people may


feel pressured by nurses that they don't know. The burden of this story


really is that these forms are being taken out by nurses that they have


never met before. It is not a district nurse with whom they have


an ongoing relationship. It might be someone they have never met, and


might seem like an intrusive and pressurised question, and people may


later regret you answers. The Daily Mail is not necessarily saying that


it is wrong to ask these questions, but that the wrong people are asking


them. The elderly person needs a... I don't know, feels that they can


trust. Absolutely, it is not just the person asking the question, but


the circumstances. You might ask somebody already in hospital who is


going through a difficult illness how they felt about a DNR order on


their notes. At this is a home visit to assess before someone has become


seriously ill. Their attitude to ageing, what the health problems


might be, how he would like to be treated if they become ill. It is


supposed to be part of this strategy to keep people out of hospital. But


it seems there is an extra question tag onto the questionnaire. Well by


the way, you know, do you want us to let you die? And it is being


described by health experts in the Daily Mail as callous for the reason


that somebody might be feeling vulnerable when visited at home in


this way I health professional age are not know or have a relationship


with. They might well sign a form to try and be corporative, really, and


then very much regret it later. And also, the family may not be present,


it may not be the widest possible way to assess whether it is


appropriate for somebody to have a DNR order. `` corporative. There has


been so much discussion recently about assisted suicide and the Right


to Die `` co`operative. They don't in some cases want to needlessly and


painfully prolong their lives. There is this whole ethical dilemma about


when life should be allowed to end by doctors. It will stay on the


front pages as a huge ethical dilemma of our times. It is. Let us


go through a dilemma that the Scots will be going through on the 18th of


September. The referendum there. Alex Salmond, the First Minister,


has said I would quit if it meant a yes vote. He would trade his career


and his party to support independence. But that question is


not on the ballot. It seems in recent days as if the yes camp is


sort of closing in on no. They have had a healthy lead for the last few


months, and what all the experts say, the people who watch Scottish


politics very closely, is that Alex Salmond and the SNP and those in


favour of Scotland separating need a game changer to overtake the No


campaign. And this story says that somebody in the independence


campaign has tried to publicise a fairly throwaway remark by Alex


Salmond earlier this week, because they don't want people to go to the


ballot box thinking they are voting on the issue of whether Alex Salmond


will be the king of a new independent Scotland. He is talented


and charismatic, but also divisive as a politician. Many in Scotland


don't like the idea of Alex Salmond being in charge, while they are


attracted to his vision. So they are trying to remove the Alex Salmond


personal factor from the vote. Will that work? As you say, he has not


actually resigned. So we might never know. But apparently, according to


this story, he is something of an electoral liability. So maybe the


yes campaign are trying to have their cake and eat it too. Have them


leading it, but also have in the wings the possibility that he will


leave it at some future point. As an addition to this story, we have the


front of the... It is actually page four of the I there. They want the


government to be tough on Scotland, even if they vote No. That is not


what Westminster is moving towards, it seems to want to give Scotland


everything, to try and keep them in the union. Yes, but the English


generally take a different view. They want the Scots to stay with


them, so they are not in favour of Scottish independent, by quite a big


margin, I think, which surprises me actually, as I would have thought


the English would be quite in favour of getting rid of them. Why? One of


the reasons is that the English... In this is a thorny issue, given


royal revenues, but public spending per head in Scotland is much higher.


One of the things coming out of this poll is that the English want public


spending in Scotland authorised I Westminster and paid for in part I


the alleged taxpayer, paying for free tuition, and healthcare for the


elderly... This is very interesting, because I suspect, I have covered


last month, it was fantastic. What I last month, it was fantastic. What I


suspect is that the English are using their hearts and not their


heads, in their response to these kinds of questionnaires, as to


whether or not Scotland should separate, so the idea of the union


disappearing, the idea that Scotland is no longer part of what we want,


and what we like, it is not about economics. And it is the heart


ruling the head, that Alex Salmond hopes to tap into as far as Scottish


voters are concerned. It is an interesting question as to whether


that is going on. I agree that the slogan Better Together probably


makes a lot of sense to the English. The polling data from the papers


tomorrow morning would suggest that is absolutely the case. But there is


really bad news for both the yes and no camps in this story. Because,


unfortunately for Alex Salmond, it shows that people in England would


not be keen at all on his plan to keep some sort of currency union.


The Sterling, absolutely. The English would like the government to


reject that. That is bad for Alex Salmond. On the other hand, this


poll is bad for the prounion No campaign, because it shows the


English would like Scotland, public spending to be cut in the event of a


no. And also, as explained, they would like Scottish MPs to be


deprived of the right to vote on English matters at Westminster. This


is a kind of constant running issue since devolution in 1999. This is


contrary to the policies coming out of the No campaign. It will be


interesting to see whether negative reaction to the setback for the yes


side or the no side stronger in Scotland. We are into the last month


of the campaign. If the polls start moving in one direction or the


other, there will be a lot of people getting very jumpy about this. It


goes back to the fundamental thing about this referendum, which is that


only the Scots get a vote. It is presented as a referendum on


Scottish independence. It is also a referendum about the breakup of the


United Kingdom, which is as much an issue for the English and the Welsh


and the northern Irish, as it is for the Scots in many. So it is hardly


surprising that the English, denied a vote, when you ask them in the


opinion polls what they think the consequences of the Scottish vote


should be, they are not particularly charitable. It could also have a big


effect on the BBC as well. We face a big funding cut of Scotland votes


yes. Neil, with your media analyst hat on, what are they talking about?


Roughly speaking, 10% of the licence fee comes from Scotland, so ex


hypothesi, if you take Scotland away, the BBC gets less money. I


think it is overdramatised, not least because if the BBC becomes the


English broadcasting Corporation, effectively, then they won't have to


spend money in Scotland either. They won't have revenue, but they also


won't have expenditure. Some say that is what it already is,


actually. The BBC, whether a figleaf or not, has put a lot of effort in


all the nations. Question Time has gone to Glasgow, the weakest Link


went to Scotland for production. They are trying to get more network


programmes in the nations. That would not be the case. The person to


talk to about a casting is Alex Salmond. He wants to persuade the


Scottish people they can have all the BBC stuff they have at the


moment, and a separate Scottish broadcasting company which would


make its own programmes. Now you can't have both of those for the


same money. You just can't, it doesn't add up. You either have to


have less BBC, so you have to have a Scottish broadcasting company which


would buy some BBC programmes but not others, so you might get


EastEnders but not Strict league. Or you say we will take the BBC in its


entirety `` Strictly. Or you say we will pay a license fee in Scotland,


and an additional fee for a Scottish broadcaster, which would be


unpopular. One suspects for Scottish voters this is more of an issue for


the BBC. It is not really at the top of Scottish voters' minds, as they


decide what to do on independence. I think that is not quite right


actually. One of the things the pro` independence campaign has tried to


do... They have tried to promise as much stability and continuity as


possible. There has been a lot of don't frighten the horses about the


pro` independence campaign. They have tried to say they are not


abolishing the Queen, they will keep her as head of state. All this stuff


about the Sterling, it will still be used as the currency, and even in


that large document he produced at that large document he produced at


the beginning of the summer, they have tried to say the cultural UK


riches including the BBC, will remain there as. That may not be the


case. That may affect people's vote. Britain will send jets to join the


hunt for kidnapped girls. 200 girls are still missing after being


kidnapped by the Islamist group Boko Haram. This story was absolutely


huge when it happened. Over 200 schoolgirls taken in north`eastern


Nigeria. The whole world was horrified. In fact, it was


impossible at the time to find them, do anything about it. The


government was heavily criticised for a flat`footed response. There


were calls for international intervention and it did not happen.


The UK is involved in surveillance and intelligence gathering. It is


going to step up its role in trying to work out a pattern of Boko Haram


movements in Nigeria. There is no suggestion the UK is going to swoop


in and rescue the girls. The UK is becoming very involved in


surveillance and intelligence gathering. That is also one of the


key roles for the Brits in Iraq against the Islamic State. There is


very little understanding of the shape of ISIS. That is also the case


with Boko Haram. This is two areas of the world where the UK is


starting to think of how it can help, even if it is not going to


have military intervention. That is the key. Very briefly. David Cameron


has been talking about using UK military assets and prowess, but not


Brits on the ground. This musty one of the obvious ways he is referring


to. `` this must be. These girls need to be rescued. If we have got


jets, we should send jets. There is a wider question of when British


foreign policy keeps being interventionist, when does it end?


Look at what is happening in Iraq. But look at Kosovo, look at Sierra


Leone. There are success stories. We could talk about this for a lot


more. But we cannot, unfortunately. It has been good to have you with


us. Now it is time for Sportsday.


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