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fans. We have reaction to the Champions League draw as Liverpool

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are set to take on Real Madrid and we round up the action from tonight

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Europa League. That is up in 15 minutes after the Papers.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing

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us tomorrow. With me are is Kate Devlin, political correspondent of

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the Herald and live from Glasgow is Susan Stewart from Women for

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Independence. Welcome to both of you and thank you for being with us.

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Tomorrow's front pages. The Financial Times says David Cameron

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is scrambling to restore order in his party after the defection of the

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leading Tory Eurosceptic MP Douglas Carswell to UKIP. The express leads

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with the same story, saying the move threatens to split the party. The

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Daily Telegraph reports on the prospects of more MPs following Mr

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Carswell to UKIP. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are pictured are as

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they are on many front pages. The Guardian leads on the crisis in

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Ukraine and the indications that hundreds of Russian troops are

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involved. The Metro leads on the scandal in Rotherham and the report

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that police try to disprove victim accounts. The Daily Mail says

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Conservative MPs have talks with UKIP. The Times says David Cameron

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is warned to brace himself for more defections in the coming months.

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And, baking bad, the Sun focuses on the great British bake off and the

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controversy over eight ruined baked Alaska. Rest assured, we will do the

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Sun in a few minutes. We will kick off with the Daily Mail, leading

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with the headline, eight more Tories in UKIP talks. Kick us off, Susan,

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with the Tate on problems facing David Cameron and news of Douglas

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Carswell's defection. Indeed, every political work in London will be

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looking for others in the Tory party looking to defect and the Daily Mail

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claims to have eight. This gets serious for the Prime Minister and a

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guess the question is how he will respond. `` I guess. One wonders and

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one worries if he will adopt tougher anti` European rhetoric and shift

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the Tory party even further to the political right in relation to

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Europe. Thereby, shifting political gravity again in Westminster and a

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game creating a political culture. Particularly around Europe, which is

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increasingly out of sync with the views of the Scots. It is a little

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disappointing that none of the front pages or not many of the London

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based front pages have analysed today's news in relation to

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Scotland's referendum which is three weeks today, we will all have voted.

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That seems astonishingly myopic in my view. Kate, one word in the

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coverage. It goes on to talk about suggestions that nine Conservatives

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have dined with the UKIP doughnut, Stuart Wheeler and that it might be

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significant. `` donor. I think they were trying to persuade more. One

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hell of a Kunar. It has come off. `` one hell of a coup. It has been a

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difficult day for David Cameron and this raises all sorts of problems

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going into the future, not least will the Conservative party start

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obsessing about Europe again and tearing itself apart, but very

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interesting to see that it doesn't seem as if, despite their

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protestations and best efforts, the Conservatives have a handle on this

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at the moment. Does Susan have a point about the Scottish view about

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this? The interaction between the Scottish referendum and the EU

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referendum has been incredibly interesting because it clearly

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blindsided number ten and they weren't expecting it. They thought

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it would be two separate issues and they thought the two would never

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meet. `` Number Ten. They have had a lot of traction arguing the main

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threat to Scotland's membership isn't independence, it is David

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Cameron, which we will come to. Kate suggests that on the front page. I

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had we come to that. We will. Scottish Premiership to the EU has

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been debated during the referendum campaign with doubts in some circles

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cast about how the relationship would be established if Scotland

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vote yes `` Scottish membership. It was one of the early scare tactics

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of the campaign towards the end of 2012. It has been resolved by the

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slew of European experts who have said that actually, there would be

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no problem and Scotland's population have been citizens of the European

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Union for 40 years and there position would be relatively short

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and the process would be relatively straightforward so, any traction

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that it would have had at the beginning of the campaign, it has

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been a long one, has dissipated and indeed, most people are beginning to

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realise the safest way and best way of ensuring Scotland stays in the

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European Union is a yes vote on September 18. Pro union politicians

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would completely disagree, they would say it is not true. They would

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admit they would have hoped to line it up with a win for them and the

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fact that the issue has been muddied on this one isn't what they would

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have hoped for. Let's move on because there is more to cover. The

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front page of the times and while that leads with further domestic

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politics there is a line about Russia and Ukraine `` Times. Kate, a

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reference about what Nato are saying in Ukraine. Yes. They are taking a

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strong line on this. This is interesting because of the dramatic

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scenes we have seen in Ukraine today and the struggle that is happening

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across the international community on how to deal with it. Nato is

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particularly interesting because David Cameron is hosting in Newport

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next week, a Nato summit, in which he said a couple of weeks ago that

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he is hoping to convince them that more is needed is just a complete

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change in Nato's relationship with Russia. His hand will be

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strengthened by this. I think there will still be a lot of deep

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negotiations in Wales next weekend. Let's stay with this story but move

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onto the next newspaper, Susan, namely, the Guardian. The

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interesting point about the headline is the worried, in faded, we have

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been invaded, Kiev accuses Russia. That carries all sorts of legal

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implications `` invaded. The Ukrainian President says further

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down the story that Russian forces have entered Ukraine and Western

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leaders said that there will be consequences. As yet, they are

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undefined. One gets the sense that Nato and other Western leaders are

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talking tough but I think that particularly the Prime Minister will

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be conscious that Durm mood of the country will not be for any kind of

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precipitous action, particularly after Iraq et cetera `` that the

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mood. One gets the sense through the front pages of a rise in the

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rhetoric without necessarily anyone being terribly clear what exactly

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Nato should do. The United Nations were debating this tonight as well.

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They were. Strong language there as well. From the American ambassador.

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Before we move on, it was interesting, Kate, to see the press

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conference with President Obama and he was asked if he regarded this as

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an invasion. He came out with this strong language we have shown all

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the headlines but he didn't repeat the word. He didn't. So far, no

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world leader has. It will be interesting to see if they back up

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here. They have been very strong about this. The Scottish Daily Mail

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has a poll on independence. Union on a knife edge. Poll shock as yes camp

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narrows gap to six points. I don't doubt, Susan, you are pleased by

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that. I point out that you are still in second place on this. Yes. Is

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this significant? What is your take ? It would back the trend in other

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polls that the gap is tightening between the note and the yes

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campaigns and undoubtedly, I am not sure when the fieldwork for this

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poll was done, it was after the debate, and the first minister it

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was said one big debate handsomely `` of the No campaign. It has not

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been a great week. They had a broadcast out on Tuesday night that

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was lampooned widely on social media and thought to be incredibly sexist

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and located perhaps in the 1950s, in Don Draper land. Today, of course,

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they had David Cameron's visit, which isn't wholly positive for the

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No campaign. Not a good week. Certainly, the yes campaigners have

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felt that the opinion polls have not been picking up the critical sector

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of the population, those who have never voted before perhaps because

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they thought it wasn't worth it and who, when the expressed an intention

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to vote in the referendum, they will overwhelmingly vote Yes. Name on. It

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will be very tight in September the 18th, even the Daily Mail says so ``

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game on. Kate, came on? In some ways, yes. Three weeks ago. This is

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too close to comfort for the No campaign. `` came on. It is

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resetting it, taking it back to the same poll for the same newspaper one

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month ago. It is suggesting the TV debates cancelled each other out.

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That is interesting. What has happened is essentially that Alex

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Salmond managed to end on a high. I don't know if Susan will agree.

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Whether the momentum continues and whether a poll set next week shows

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it is continuing, will be interesting. This is far too close

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for what the pro union party would have wanted at this stage.

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Especially when you compare it with six weeks ago, or two months ago,

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when the mood in the No campaign was buoyant and we were reported... It

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was reported that Labour and story were complacent and thought it was

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done and dusted and it is clearly not. People don't always tell the

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pollsters what they will end up doing in the actual confines of the

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ballot, which is what is worth pointing out. We saw that in 2011.

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We have seen it on a number of occasions in the last 20 years in

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different elections. Tell us more Kate. This is a dramatic thing that

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happened in Glasgow this evening. David Cameron went to speak to the

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CBI to give basically a strong speech on the dangers of Scottish

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independence to business and before he gave his speech, the president of

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the CBI, sir Michael Rake, stood up and told the Prime Minister to his

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face that the EU referendum that David Cameron has promised in 2017

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was causing problems for business and it is very embarrassing `` Sir.

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Not only does it fit into the issues that business have around this, but

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it also feeds into the wider independence debate. It is

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interesting, Susan, because you made reference only on to what you saw as

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the contrasting view towards the EU in Scotland as a pose to the rest of

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the UK and presumably you would argue that this story further

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that narrative if you like. Absolutely. I think that the word

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humiliation isn't too strong. Not in the Herald headline. If there is one

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audience a Tory Prime Minister traditionally would have expected a

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fairly warm welcome, it is the CBI. And, for the president of the CBI to

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criticise a Tory Prime Minister in relation to Europe suggests the

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scale of the urgent on matters European north and south of the

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border. Not a good night for the Prime Minister and I am sure that

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people in the No campaign will be licking their wounds and wondering

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what else can go wrong this week. Says somebody from the Yes campaign

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I should point out in the interest of maintaining a degree of balance

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in this. Talking of balance, let's move on to the front of the Sun.

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This is a fantastic headline. And, extraordinarily story. I encourage

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you both as you tell it to throw lots of unleaded into what you are

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about to tell me `` allegeds. Kate, tell us more. Taking bad. First of

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all, this is a fantastic headline, taking bad. Who knew that date

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Alaska could cause so much scandal. It is all about the bait off and the

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episode they show the other night and Allah `` allegations of

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sabotage. There were allegations of a stitch up. To be fair and I speak

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someone as a Masterchef girl than a great British bait off, but the chap

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who went to Alice Gatt collapsed and he said that he, under dirty diet,

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are at best of chums. `` Dirty Di. It is self`referential and cheeky.

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`` are the best of chums. It might be a wee bit of fuss over nothing in

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terms of the Bake Alaska war. I love the complaints. Viewers complained.

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When people call up they normally complain about TV. Apparently, he

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was complained that the Bake Alaska was taken out of the other when it

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should not have been. I think that it is great that people are so

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caught up on this. Was it the other or the freezer? The freezer. I am

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sorry. Stand corrected. The reason it collapsed was because it came out

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of the freezer and he accused her of doing that and then it melted. Did

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he? The ice cream melted but I'm not sure if he accused her of doing that

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or if it were the viewers who thought she had done that because

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certainly, today, he is quoted as saying they are the best of chums.

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She says she was up. Yes. In the end,

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wedding and good luck to them, I guess. I am claiming this is a great

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old`fashioned local news story that emerged when he was at a museum in

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Devon doing a junket for his latest film and it was noticed he was

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wearing a wedding ring. So, someone spotted it. And, word got out. Hats

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off to the person who spotted it. Time is up. Thank you very much

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indeed for reviewing the front pages for us. Kate and Susan. Stay with us

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on BBC News. At midnight, the latest on the political fallout following

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the defection of Douglas Carswell to the UK Independence the. Coming up

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now, it is time for Sportsday. `` UK Independent Party. In

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