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Review, Mystery Road, the latest crime drama from down under.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing

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us tomorrow. With me is the political commentator, Jo Philips,

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and Nigel Nelson, who's political editor at the Sunday People.

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Tomorrow's front pages. Former Liberal Democrat leader Paddy

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Ashdown accuses Tory ministers of a kneejerk response to the terrorism

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threat from extremists, says the front page of the Observer.

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The Independent on Sunday says parliament will ask what government

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officials knew about abuse in Rotherham after a report this week

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revealed more than a thousand children were abused in the town.

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Cameron faces UKIP by`election bloodbath, according to the results

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of a poll by the Mail on Sunday. The Sunday Times says some of the

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UK's most influential imams have condemned British Muslims fighting

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alongside extremists in Iraq and Syria.

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A remarkable new heart drug could cut deaths by a fifth according to

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the Sunday Telegraph. The paper also has an image of Rona Fairhead, the

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first woman to run the BBC Trust. And the Sunday Express claims

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Britons fighting for IS are to be told not to come back to the UK.

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So, the breaking news of Ashya King being found, the five`year`old boy,

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it came too late for the front pages of the papers. A lot of them

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focusing on talks over the weekend between David Cameron and Nick Clegg

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and what they will do with this terrorism threat. Let's begin with

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the Sunday express because it is confusing. Jihadis told, do not come

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back. Is that possible? It is curious because apparently,

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according to a government source who told the Sunday express that David

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Cameron will announce on Monday that they are looking at stopping British

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citizens re`entering the country if they are suspected of terrorist

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activity, taking away their passports. I understand from

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listening to Alex Carlisle, the former adviser on terrorism that you

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can't actually make someone stateless, which is what would

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happen to these people. If they have another nationality that is OK but

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you can't just say to somebody, you can't come back to this country if

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you are a British citizen as far as I understand. There are a load of

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not just civil rights issues but legal issues and I think the

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precedents... I don't know that any other country does this. The

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presumption is that they do have another nail `` nationality. It does

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say, Britons fighting. We are confused about how this would work.

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If it could be carried out, I would be in favour of it. I just wonder

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how you could do it legally. What David Cameron has got to do is

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whatever it takes to minimise the risk. You cannot eliminate risk but

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you can minimise it. I would prefer him taking away the passports to

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stop them travelling in the first place which is perfectly legal. Over

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50 passports have been taken in the last year, so that is possible. That

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announcement on Monday from David Cameron, we will find out the

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conclusions and legislation. The Sunday Telegraph reports on the

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situation in Ukraine, with Nato saying they have evidence of Russian

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troops crossing into Ukraine. The Sunday Telegraph reports on Putin on

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the verge of war with Europe over Ukraine. There has been threatening

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rhetoric from him, hasn't there? He has and I assume he thinks he can

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get away with it. That is because he has. I think that is where the

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presumption comes from. Maybe he feels that we are so engaged in what

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is going on in the Middle East that we will let him sort of do whatever

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he wants to. He has got Angela Merkel to deal with. Indeed. The

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problem is how to stop him. I don't think Europe have an answer. We can

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put more sanctions on. According to the Telegraph, he is hoping to use

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the city of London to stop Russians passing money through. Does that

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damage asked? `` us. Of course it does but you have to suffer some

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pain to do that. The other thing is to withhold the right for them to

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hold the 2018 World Cup. That might hurt them harder than anything else.

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The feel at the moment is that nothing will stop Putin short of

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brute force and we won't do that. This has been mentioned a lot, the

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point of no return by EU ministers and by Poroshenko in Ukraine.

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Absolutely. That is frightening. All`out war. It is terrifying. Of

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all the stories running on the bulletins and on the front pages,

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whether it is Syria and Iraq or ISIS and this, there is this feeling of

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impotence. Yes. 100 years ago, tanks would be rolling over the border.

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They would. Is that not because, people or a conspiracy theorist will

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be saying and they do say that it is because of gas and oil. Others will

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probably argue rightly so that it is because of a nuclear threat, which

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Putin has mentioned, nuclear bombs. We have moved away from that kind of

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attitude. One of the things about commemorating the First World War as

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we are is that world leaders can see just how quickly you can end up in a

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world conflict. 37 days from the original shooting in Sarajevo to the

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entire world being at war. They have had these lessons and they do in

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fairness think that we have progressed on that front. But, on

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this one, we won't roll tanks into Ukraine, we just won't do it.

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Sanctions would stop them. So, what can you do? Nothing, angle of Merkel

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will get cross, but that won't threaten Putin, will it? `` Angela

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Merkel. Obama has most solution to the Middle East. What can you do? ``

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no solution. Don't we have peacekeepers? You have to be allowed

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in by both sides. The Observer. Interesting, isn't it? One in three

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young workers on low pay, not because they are lying on their

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backsides and cannot be bothered to get a job it is presumably because

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there is no proper job to get. It's not about jobs, it is about money

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and wages. What's interesting on this is that this has been going on

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for 40 years. Young people, between 21`30, I would have thought that by

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30 you should be pretty well established. This isn't straight

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from school. That's why I said what asset. `` said what I said. These

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aren't people without rival rendition, they have lots of it.

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That's right and it answers a lot of other questions that seem odd ``

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without ambition. We presumed people could not get onto the housing

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market because houses are going through the roof, the prices. The

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kind of money around their age 40 years ago in relative terms is very

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different from the money they have now. The other thing is that it has

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been going on for 40 years, meaning that every government is culpable

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for what is happening. I remember starting out at work and I never got

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very much money but it always seemed enough. Here, it is a whole

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different ball game. There is a generation gap. There is. The

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proportion of low paid older workers, people between 51`60, has

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dropped, so there is a huge as you say generation gap. What's

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interesting is what you and I spend money on, wages, when we were

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youngsters. I don't think we should go there, should we? (CROSSTALK).

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Let's move on to the Sunday Times, which is one of a couple of papers

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to report on the new appointment, she is not quite there yet, but

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pretty much, the first woman to take charge of the BBC. Tough job always

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but particularly at the moment, isn't it? Yes. And a good choice of

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someone who has no baggage, appearance, the former chief

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executive of the FT and non`executive director of HSBC bank.

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I don't think anyone knows much about her but she seems to come in

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with a clean pair of hands. Apparently, she says she is open to

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looking at the licensee and different attitudes towards

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governance of the BBC. And, ?110,000 per year for a three`day working

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week which in the current climate actually seems not unreasonable.

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It's a reasonable amount. Some BBC salaries of the past... And, she has

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a lot in her injury to come into on her first day at work. Obviously,

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getting over the Jimmy Savile scandal, the investigation into

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that, the review of the licensee and even a review of the BBC trust

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itself. Exactly. In a sense, she has the whole future of the BBC in her

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hands. Wow. The Sunday Times, they did not do what the Sunday Telegraph

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did which is that she has got three children. That is irrelevant. I knew

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that you are going to get there. Let's move on. Can't comment. Let's

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move on to the Independent on Sunday, the Home Office and what it

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knew about Rotherham and the shocking findings of that report as

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well in rather that the child abuse scandal occurred. The problem with

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this one is that it is like the last story we were talking about. This is

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crossing so many different government planner. What the

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Independent on Sunday is looking at is Tony Blair's government. It would

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seem that the suggestion in the article is that the government of

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the day was bending over so far to try to keep stable community

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relations, they tended to ignore what was happening on the streets.

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Particularly in the Muslim community. The Dick Lee. Because of

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9/11 as well. This is going back to 2001. `` particularly. 9/11 would

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have something to do with it after the event but the Labour MP and

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foreign office minister said he was almost fired by Foreign Secretary

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Jack Straw because he was accused of upsetting Muslim relations because

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of the speech he was making. If someone like Denis MacShane, the

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local MP, is stopped from saving things because he would be accused

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of being racist, how many other is word doing what they should have

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done when the abuse first came to light `` weren't. What is damning is

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the Home Office report carried out which hasn't seen the light of day.

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One Home Office research was sent to Rotherham in 2001 and the report was

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suppressed if one believes what was in the Independent by the government

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and local council. There are lots of questions. There is a jigsaw with

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pieces missing. This story has come from Denis MacShane. It has, yes,

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obviously. Not wanting to cast aspersions on him, not at all, you

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do wonder if it was... Why didn't he go some way else. You know, if he

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really... The next stage is, when Parliament returns, Keith Vaz, chair

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of the Select Committee, is determined to find out exactly what

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evidence existed within the Home Office. That committee has said...

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It is the best way of doing that. The Muslim community and I know this

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from my own investigation in sexual grooming by men of Pakistani Origin

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that the community itself has done a lot to work with the police. We are

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speaking historically, but so far to go and that was the conclusion of

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the report. We must end it there. Thank you for taking us through the

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papers. Thank you for tuning in. Stay with us on BBC News because we

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have the latest on the breaking news story tonight, five`year`old Ashya

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king, seriously ill, taken by his parents, has been found in Spain ``

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caddie king. Coming up next, the Film Review `` King. Welcome

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