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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

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With me are James Lyons, the Deputy Political Editor

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for the Daily Mirror and Oliver Brown, who's Chief Sports Feature

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The Metro focuses on our main story tonight, missing five`year`old boy

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The paper says that his parents are being kept from

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The FT leads with how Russian president is calling

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for talks on the question "statehood" southeast Ukraine.

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Vladimir Putin says it must be a key part of the negotiations to

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The Telegraph also concentrates on the situation

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It says that Nato allies are being told to increase

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their defence budgets due to the growing threat from Russia.

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The Guardian goes with with news that David Cameron

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will make it easier for intelligence agencies to access information as

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part of an effort to stem the flow of British`born jihadis travelling

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The Express splashes on the claim that EU red tape is

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costing retired Brits thousands of pounds in pension payouts.

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The Daily Mail says that figures show customers are

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being charged at least three times the price their

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Let's begin. Thank you for joining us. We will start with the Metro

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newspaper, we have been talking about it all evening, the fact that

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Ashya King has been found and his parents are being questioned by the

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police. Their headline is very stark, parents kept from seeing

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Cancer son, aged five. Oliver, this pulls people in different

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directions. A desperately sad situation, it is hard not to be on

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the side of the parents because the instinct fundamentally is to seek

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out the best possible treatment, wherever that may be. The problem is

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that both the authorities and the parents claim that the interests of

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Asher are at heart `` Ashya are at Hardwick is difficult to reconcile

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when even his closest relatives are being denied access to him. Surely

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it would be better to have his parents by his bedside rather than

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being interrogated and awaiting extradition proceedings. We have

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heard from members of the family, we had an interview with the

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grandmother, and the family using social media to get their side out.

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The sons have been speaking out about the parents ahead of the

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extradition hearing tomorrow morning. They're all sorts of

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questions about what happens if are sent back to England to face the

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music. Will they have to go back alone? It is a terribly sad story

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and I have to admit it is completely the opposite of what I initially

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thought. When the news broke I thought, oh well, you hear stories

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about parents who want to stop treatment, or prevent their child

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being treated for whatever reason, whether it is religious, or

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whatever. I jumped to conclusions when this broke, thinking back was

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much must be happening here but we find out it is the reverse, in fact

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the parents have been tragically told that medics think there is

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nothing more they can do for the lad and they have gone abroad, seeking a

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cure. Various suggestions about their motives, looking for a cure in

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Spain, whether they are going to sell their holiday home to finance

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some kind of solution. The treatment is pretty exorbitant as it stands, I

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think ?100,000. Proton beam therapy. Available in the Czech

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Republic, it will not be available here for at least another six

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years, so they have come to the conclusion that anything would be

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worth trying. So many can relate to that. The police have consistently

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maintained that they are trying to observe the legalities, whether

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there has been criminality. I think the only thing that should be

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observed in this case is some common`sense. You feel for the

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police because clearly they are in a situation that is difficult. Medics

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in Britain have said that this child was in real danger. They have

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tracked him down and things may not be as they expected them, either.

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Having said that we have heard from the grandmother, whose house has

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been ransacked by the police, you know, asked to give statements. When

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you read the family's account it seems a bit heavy`handed. Going to

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the front page of the Daily Telegraph, " my parents are not

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kidnappers" say Ashya's older brother, Danny King, who has also

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been speaking out. It shows, the involvement of the police is

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problematic because we immediately think that crime is involved. Some

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people say that the police are the best people to look. They have

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clearly done nothing illegal as well. Taking your child outside of

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hospital against doctors wishes is not illegal. This may be more

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complex. You wonder what grounds they will be extradited under. It is

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such a fundamental impulse, it is a shattering story, a father who said

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he would not rest until he found a cure for his son. This is another

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case, a son suffering from a rare form of muscular dystrophy, saying

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he would spend any money, and there are parallels to this situation. Do

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you think there are parallels `` do you think the police shouldn't have

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been involved? Or are the best police `` are they the best people

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to investigate? If somebody disappears from the hospital, the

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police are the best people to investigate, but you cannot see the

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boy being benefited by his parents essentially being bracketed as

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kidnappers. We will hear more tomorrow, they may appear in court

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tomorrow in Madrid for the expedition proceedings. More to come

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on that. A different story now, the Guardian front page, about the

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terror threat we are expected to hear about tomorrow from David

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Cameron, making it easier for the intelligence agencies to stop

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potential British jihadists returning to the country. The

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headline, terror threat, spy agencies to vet flight lists.

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James, the suggestion that they can see passenger lists and get a look

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at the names. We are expecting David Cameron to announce all sorts of

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things in what a roundup of the EU summit over the weekend, he will

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touch on the Ukraine, and spell out what the government are going to do

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about the jihadi threat after the official security terror level was

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raised last week. One thing he is going to announce as the Guardian is

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reporting here, the fact that they will bring in a new law which will

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compel airlines for the first time to share their passenger lists with

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the security services. Unbelievably this is being done on able and very

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basis until now and there have been issues with some of the carriers who

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only produce the lists half an hour before the flights take off, no real

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time to see who is on board. This will help to stop, give the

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opportunity to stop people who may be travelling out to Iraq and Syria

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to fight with ISIS. That will be a boon in that area. The airlines will

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have two provide better information `` have to provide. It will give the

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Security service is a bit more of a head start as they tried to head off

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these people. `` security services. One story that is covered in the

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Telegraph, the front page, ever since the coalition did away with

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control orders, reform of home arrest that used to be imposed on

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terror suspects there has been a long row about what will replace

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them, such as the TPims, which critics have always said are not

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strong enough. Recently the governments own adviser, the review

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of terrorism the deflation has agreed `` terrorism legislation. He

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said that one of the important things that control orders did that

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TPims don't, they allowed you to relocate terrorists, you can make

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them move to Norfolk for example where they will be less dangerous.

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So that power has gone. The government watchdog would like it

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back. There are concerns that there may be reprisals, and the Liberal

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Democrats. They are not ready to sign up to anything that may be seen

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as Draconian. When David Cameron comes to give his statement, he is

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still negotiating. We will return to the Daily Telegraph, not their main

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story, curbs on terrorist suspects rejected. Oliver, this is coming

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down, as James said, to the legality. This is always the

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stumbling block. The other issue has been about citizenship and whether

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we can take people 's passports from them when they come back from

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fighting in Iraq. Legally flawed, I imagine the lawyers will be having a

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heavy weekend. A lot of lawyers are about to come very `` about to

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become very rich indeed. At our expense. The suggestion of a

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temporary bar on jihadi re`entry. Very little clarification on what

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that means. Menzies Campbell has been quite this difference today in

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arguing that it would render people stateless. It is understood clearly

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that the measure that David Cameron will put forward will fall short of

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rendering people stateless. How that is legally achievable seems a very

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nebulous area. Some people having a late night tonight! The Financial

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Times, a different story, talking about it through the evening, the

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situation of escalating tension in Ukraine and the headline, Putin's

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statehood comments raising fears. James, Vladimir Putin making what

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some people would say are provocative comments. He has made

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quite a few of those on Friday he said "don't mess with Russia, we

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have a nuclear arsenal"! Compared to that, this seems more tame, but more

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worrying if you are in the Ukraine. This seems to be yet another land

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grab by Putin. We don't seem to know what to do to stop him. Talk of

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sanctions in Brussels at the weekend. One expert said that there

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is no way the EU can hurt Russia with sanctions because they have the

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Oil and we are basically dancing to their tune. Some of the hawks in

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Washington are taking up the Ukrainian call for NATO to supply

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them with arms. If we do that, goodness knows where it may end. It

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is difficult to see what you can do to counter this. It is a very grim

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situation. It is not hard to see what the endgame of Putin is here,

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talking about statehood, clearly it is politically charged. There are

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rebels in eastern Ukraine now who say that they want to go through to

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the West. Nobody is sure where it's going to end. The official spokesman

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says that it would be absolutely wrong to interpret this as calling

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for the independence of eastern Ukraine, but it would seem it is

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about partition. The mixed messages, the spokesperson trying to

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tone things down. Not long ago the Russians said that there were none

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of their troops in the Ukraine. It seems to be on the one hand you have

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the rise of ISIS, they would like to get to the borders of NATO if they

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could, Turkey, and you have what's going on in Eastern Europe. It seems

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to be an extraordinary and frightening time. On many fronts in

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deed. On many fronts it does not make happy reading but we will be

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back at half past 11 for another look at the stories making the news

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tomorrow. In other news and the parents of Ashya's

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