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Thursday Brailsford who says Sir Bradley Wiggins is close to a new

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contract at Team Sky. That is in Sportsday after The Papers.

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Welcome to our lookahead to what the newspapers bring us tomorrow. With

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me from Glasgow is journalist Ruth Wishart, and in London is former

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government adviser and academic similar bungalow while. Let's look

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at the front pages. Scotland typically continues to dominate ``

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Zamila Bunglawala. Most dominating with the prime Minister's plea in

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Aberdeen to stay. David Cameron is on the front of the Guardian,

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describing how the Prime Minister highlighted concerns of what he said

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would be a painful divorce. The Financial Times, which has come out

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in support of the No campaign, leaves with supposed recriminations

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at Whitehall about the Better Together strategy. Scotland's Daily

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Record has a pledge by the main Westminster parties to extend more

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power to Scotland if the country votes No. The front page of the

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Metro is a different story, leading on the murder of two young British

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backpackers found dead on a beach in Thailand. Finally the Daily Mail

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splashes on the cancer doctor in Cambridgeshire alleged to have

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preyed on more than 800 sick children. We will start with the

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daily Record. Ruth in Glasgow, its front page, signed by the three

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Westminster leaders, Miliband, Cameron and Clegg, and it is their

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promise to devolve more power to Hollywood, and also, interestingly,

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in the middle, it states categorically that the final say on

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how much is spent on the NHS will be a matter for the Scottish

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parliament. Could this perhaps affect some of those who are

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undecided, do you think? I am not sure. It is an extraordinary front

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page, set out as you can see as a parchment with a pledge from the

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party leaders. The NHS has become a contentious issue over the last few

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weeks of the campaign. Health is devolved in Scotland as you know,

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and so, the argument from the yes campaign has been, although it is

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devolved with power over how it is run and it is run differently from

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England, with the hip `` fear has been that privatisation in England

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will affect the NHS budget in England and our budget in Scotland

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is tied to that, so for the sake of argument if ?100 is taken from the

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NHS England budget ?10 comes from the Scottish budget. Whether or not

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saying we will have the final say means much or not, we don't know,

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because at the end of the day, we have a fixed budget under the

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Barnett formula, to deal with, and then it can use the money to patch

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up the gaps in the NHS. But it means within a fixed budget that you have

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to take it out of something else. Zamila, do you think this might sway

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those people who are undecided? As Ruth said, the NHS has become in the

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last three or four weeks really critical to the campaign for both

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sides. Yes, but as Ruth said, if the same money was spent on the NHS to

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take away from other budgets, people will read between the lines and

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recognise that maybe other sectors of their economy may not do as well

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because many will have to be taken from other industries or services.

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But the wider point is, some people are undecided, but I don't know if

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it is just about the NHS, it is the bigger point of the union. In the

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formulation, they have touched on the NHS but shouldn't figure out

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that this is the only issue people are teetering on, because the wider

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issue of the union will be important for the pro union position. I think

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in Scotland, lots of people are still talking about the issue we

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don't know in wider terms what will happen, so it is nice that it has

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homed in on the NHS, but I don't think that will convince anybody on

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what will happen after the vote on Thursday. Also the issue of sticking

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with the Barnett formula, just because of the Thursday maybe

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everyone will breathe a sigh of relief and we are not independent,

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it will not go away, this problem, we will have to talk about it on

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Friday morning whatever happens. The Barnett formula, to be clear, is the

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mechanism by which money is given to devolved parliaments depending on

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their size and population. Ruth, the bottom of the Record, it says,

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Record View, now voters can make an informed choice. Is there a sense

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from some people where you are that the facts have been put before the?

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We are swimming in literature about the referendum. LAUGHTER Are you fed

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up of the? I am not, drowning not waving in terms of the information

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overload. The Record is Labour supporting which is why at has put

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this on the front page, these party leaders jointly running the Better

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Together or No campaign. There is no question whether paper stands. You

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have brought up an important point about the bonnet for Miller, one of

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the fears has been that as soon as things are done and dusted on Friday

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morning, the first thing that would happen would be that the Barnett

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formula would disappear. For me a more important part of that pledge

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is where it says, because of the continuation of the Barnett

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allocation, that is an important caveat they have put in. If I could

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quickly say, one other thing, they say much further up, this

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declaration, this foul, they say the Scottish Parliament, it is permanent

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`` this promise, we didn't think it was temporary, extensive new powers

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the parliament will be delivered by the process and timetable agreed.

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The problem with that is that these three parties have different ideas

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about what powers should be delivered. The process can only be

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agreed by the Westminster Parliament, and timetable has been

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suggested by Gordon Brown, who lets face it, is now an opposition

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backbench MP. I am sure his heart is in the right place but how much

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leveraging as I don't know. Lets go on to the Financial Times and Zamila

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in London. Cameron in final pitch to Scots fans blame game begins. It

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could well go down as `` heeded out `` could go down as the prime as to

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who oversaw the destruction of the union. People are wondering whose

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fault it is if that happens. It is a very good piece suggesting the Prime

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Minister says we avoid this pride painful divorce. We could amend some

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divorces are amicable, but the article leads on the former and

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current Cabinet secretaries warning how the No campaign would approach

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the issue of fear mongering and how fear tactics might come across as

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negative, so they would have do appeal to Yes voters and have a

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broader campaign. That hasn't been the case. So come Friday morning, if

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it is a Yes vote, yes, these issues will come back to the fore because

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if there were voices and concerns raised early in government from

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senior civil servants, they should have been heeded, this advice would

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have gone to ministers, people should have listened to a broader

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approach, because of course many people are undecided so they would

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have had to have an idea of how you would appeal to people who genuinely

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have not made up their minds, and scaremongering is in the best way.

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Last week when we saw lots of ministers from across Westminster,

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MPs across Minister of `` Westminster arriving in Scotland, it

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looked like a last ditch desperate attempt, which is not the message

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you want to send, now we really think we are going to lose so let's

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pay attention. That would have been patronising to many voters, even

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those voting No. Sure. Ruth, David Cameron has made his last pitch in

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person, his last scheduled pitch, twice in seven days, has all felt as

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if he is desperate now and will say anything? Well, I think that is

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slightly unfair although I absolutely take the point that the

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three party leaders suddenly leaping into action, all arrive in the same

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day with a bunch of flowers, looked a bit last`minute. Also a trainload

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of MPs, a handful of whom were Scottish, and many of whom were from

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the House of Lords, probably wasn't the smartest tactic either. But as

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far as the blame game goes, to be fair to Mr Cameron, words you often

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hear Fort `` not words you often hear from me, what really panicked

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him was that in all the opinion polls, one of the subtexts was that

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the Labour vote was moving towards Yes. The blame game appear to a

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large extent is that some of the other parties blame the Labour Party

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for not holding the line. The Labour Party, more than 40 MPs up there,

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that is the folk that seems to have shifted towards the yes campaign.

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The Financial Times, the other story, a triple shock for world

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economies. It is not just Ukraine and Syria, the Scottish vote as

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well, it could send us into recession. Very rarely do words fail

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me! When I look at this, there are three pictures, Ukraine, which is

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the in middle of a bitter civil war, the middle east, going up in flames,

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and the yes campaign. There has been a minor skirmish on twitter, but I

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hardly think that the analogy is very role made. This is the OECD, a

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reputable organisation, there is uncertainty. Any issue on this scale

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would affect an economy of this size. They should begin in some

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credit to suggest, in addition to other global issues, this might tip

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the balance, but it has to be in proportion. We do not know what

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proportion Scotland would have. The OECD is credible, the warning will

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be heeded, compared to the other scaremongering tactics we have

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heard. In a sense, it is interesting, that they have said

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this now. Real concerns, not just scaremongering. We do not know the

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scale, so it is disproportionate to say it is the same problem as the

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Middle East. You will be back in an hour. Many thanks to you both.

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Stay with us, at the top of the hour, much more on the referendum,

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as the fateful day draws ever closer. We will have Allah says on

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the efforts by both sides ahead of Thursday's vote `` we will have

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analysis. Now, Sportsday.

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