15/09/2014 The Papers


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contract at Team Sky. That is in Sportsday after The Papers.


Welcome to our lookahead to what the newspapers bring us tomorrow. With


me from Glasgow is journalist Ruth Wishart, and in London is former


government adviser and academic similar bungalow while. Let's look


at the front pages. Scotland typically continues to dominate ``


Zamila Bunglawala. Most dominating with the prime Minister's plea in


Aberdeen to stay. David Cameron is on the front of the Guardian,


describing how the Prime Minister highlighted concerns of what he said


would be a painful divorce. The Financial Times, which has come out


in support of the No campaign, leaves with supposed recriminations


at Whitehall about the Better Together strategy. Scotland's Daily


Record has a pledge by the main Westminster parties to extend more


power to Scotland if the country votes No. The front page of the


Metro is a different story, leading on the murder of two young British


backpackers found dead on a beach in Thailand. Finally the Daily Mail


splashes on the cancer doctor in Cambridgeshire alleged to have


preyed on more than 800 sick children. We will start with the


daily Record. Ruth in Glasgow, its front page, signed by the three


Westminster leaders, Miliband, Cameron and Clegg, and it is their


promise to devolve more power to Hollywood, and also, interestingly,


in the middle, it states categorically that the final say on


how much is spent on the NHS will be a matter for the Scottish


parliament. Could this perhaps affect some of those who are


undecided, do you think? I am not sure. It is an extraordinary front


page, set out as you can see as a parchment with a pledge from the


party leaders. The NHS has become a contentious issue over the last few


weeks of the campaign. Health is devolved in Scotland as you know,


and so, the argument from the yes campaign has been, although it is


devolved with power over how it is run and it is run differently from


England, with the hip `` fear has been that privatisation in England


will affect the NHS budget in England and our budget in Scotland


is tied to that, so for the sake of argument if ?100 is taken from the


NHS England budget ?10 comes from the Scottish budget. Whether or not


saying we will have the final say means much or not, we don't know,


because at the end of the day, we have a fixed budget under the


Barnett formula, to deal with, and then it can use the money to patch


up the gaps in the NHS. But it means within a fixed budget that you have


to take it out of something else. Zamila, do you think this might sway


those people who are undecided? As Ruth said, the NHS has become in the


last three or four weeks really critical to the campaign for both


sides. Yes, but as Ruth said, if the same money was spent on the NHS to


take away from other budgets, people will read between the lines and


recognise that maybe other sectors of their economy may not do as well


because many will have to be taken from other industries or services.


But the wider point is, some people are undecided, but I don't know if


it is just about the NHS, it is the bigger point of the union. In the


formulation, they have touched on the NHS but shouldn't figure out


that this is the only issue people are teetering on, because the wider


issue of the union will be important for the pro union position. I think


in Scotland, lots of people are still talking about the issue we


don't know in wider terms what will happen, so it is nice that it has


homed in on the NHS, but I don't think that will convince anybody on


what will happen after the vote on Thursday. Also the issue of sticking


with the Barnett formula, just because of the Thursday maybe


everyone will breathe a sigh of relief and we are not independent,


it will not go away, this problem, we will have to talk about it on


Friday morning whatever happens. The Barnett formula, to be clear, is the


mechanism by which money is given to devolved parliaments depending on


their size and population. Ruth, the bottom of the Record, it says,


Record View, now voters can make an informed choice. Is there a sense


from some people where you are that the facts have been put before the?


We are swimming in literature about the referendum. LAUGHTER Are you fed


up of the? I am not, drowning not waving in terms of the information


overload. The Record is Labour supporting which is why at has put


this on the front page, these party leaders jointly running the Better


Together or No campaign. There is no question whether paper stands. You


have brought up an important point about the bonnet for Miller, one of


the fears has been that as soon as things are done and dusted on Friday


morning, the first thing that would happen would be that the Barnett


formula would disappear. For me a more important part of that pledge


is where it says, because of the continuation of the Barnett


allocation, that is an important caveat they have put in. If I could


quickly say, one other thing, they say much further up, this


declaration, this foul, they say the Scottish Parliament, it is permanent


`` this promise, we didn't think it was temporary, extensive new powers


the parliament will be delivered by the process and timetable agreed.


The problem with that is that these three parties have different ideas


about what powers should be delivered. The process can only be


agreed by the Westminster Parliament, and timetable has been


suggested by Gordon Brown, who lets face it, is now an opposition


backbench MP. I am sure his heart is in the right place but how much


leveraging as I don't know. Lets go on to the Financial Times and Zamila


in London. Cameron in final pitch to Scots fans blame game begins. It


could well go down as `` heeded out `` could go down as the prime as to


who oversaw the destruction of the union. People are wondering whose


fault it is if that happens. It is a very good piece suggesting the Prime


Minister says we avoid this pride painful divorce. We could amend some


divorces are amicable, but the article leads on the former and


current Cabinet secretaries warning how the No campaign would approach


the issue of fear mongering and how fear tactics might come across as


negative, so they would have do appeal to Yes voters and have a


broader campaign. That hasn't been the case. So come Friday morning, if


it is a Yes vote, yes, these issues will come back to the fore because


if there were voices and concerns raised early in government from


senior civil servants, they should have been heeded, this advice would


have gone to ministers, people should have listened to a broader


approach, because of course many people are undecided so they would


have had to have an idea of how you would appeal to people who genuinely


have not made up their minds, and scaremongering is in the best way.


Last week when we saw lots of ministers from across Westminster,


MPs across Minister of `` Westminster arriving in Scotland, it


looked like a last ditch desperate attempt, which is not the message


you want to send, now we really think we are going to lose so let's


pay attention. That would have been patronising to many voters, even


those voting No. Sure. Ruth, David Cameron has made his last pitch in


person, his last scheduled pitch, twice in seven days, has all felt as


if he is desperate now and will say anything? Well, I think that is


slightly unfair although I absolutely take the point that the


three party leaders suddenly leaping into action, all arrive in the same


day with a bunch of flowers, looked a bit last`minute. Also a trainload


of MPs, a handful of whom were Scottish, and many of whom were from


the House of Lords, probably wasn't the smartest tactic either. But as


far as the blame game goes, to be fair to Mr Cameron, words you often


hear Fort `` not words you often hear from me, what really panicked


him was that in all the opinion polls, one of the subtexts was that


the Labour vote was moving towards Yes. The blame game appear to a


large extent is that some of the other parties blame the Labour Party


for not holding the line. The Labour Party, more than 40 MPs up there,


that is the folk that seems to have shifted towards the yes campaign.


The Financial Times, the other story, a triple shock for world


economies. It is not just Ukraine and Syria, the Scottish vote as


well, it could send us into recession. Very rarely do words fail


me! When I look at this, there are three pictures, Ukraine, which is


the in middle of a bitter civil war, the middle east, going up in flames,


and the yes campaign. There has been a minor skirmish on twitter, but I


hardly think that the analogy is very role made. This is the OECD, a


reputable organisation, there is uncertainty. Any issue on this scale


would affect an economy of this size. They should begin in some


credit to suggest, in addition to other global issues, this might tip


the balance, but it has to be in proportion. We do not know what


proportion Scotland would have. The OECD is credible, the warning will


be heeded, compared to the other scaremongering tactics we have


heard. In a sense, it is interesting, that they have said


this now. Real concerns, not just scaremongering. We do not know the


scale, so it is disproportionate to say it is the same problem as the


Middle East. You will be back in an hour. Many thanks to you both.


Stay with us, at the top of the hour, much more on the referendum,


as the fateful day draws ever closer. We will have Allah says on


the efforts by both sides ahead of Thursday's vote `` we will have


analysis. Now, Sportsday.


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