15/09/2014 The Papers


15/09/2014

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the squad. We hear from surveys Brailsford saying Bradley Wiggins is

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close to organising a new contract with Team Sky. That is coming up

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after the papers in 15 minutes. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me live from

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Glasgow is Journalist Ruth Wishart, and academic and former government

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advisor, Zamila Bunglawala. Tomorrow's front pages.

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Scotland continues to dominate them with the Telegraph leading on the

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prime minister's plea in Aberdeen for Scotland to stay in the UK.

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David Cameron is also pictured on the front of the Guardian, which

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describes how the Prime Minister highlighted concerns of what he said

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would be a painful divorce. The Herald leads with a speech and a

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headline, heartbroken if you leave. The daily record has a pledge by the

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main parties in Westminster to extend more powers to Scotland if

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the country votes no, calling it 'The Vow'.

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The front page of the Mirror has a different story, leading on the

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murder of two young British backpackers who were found dead on a

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beach in Thailand. Meanwhile, the Times turns its attention to an

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admission by the Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond that the security

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services don't know the whereabouts of Alan Henning, the British hostage

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held by Islamic State militants. The fate of Mr Henning also makes

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the front of the Independent, with the claim that rival extremists in

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Al Qaeda tried to stop IS from abducting aid workers. And finally,

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the Daily Mail splashes on the cancer doctor in Cambridge who's

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alleged to have preyed on more than 800 sick children.

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We will start with Scotland and the Times. Unionists outgunned in final

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push for Scotland. 48 hours to go. The Yes campaign have more cash to

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spend. Fascinating. In this final push, the pro campaign will blitz

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Scotland with posters, billboards, and the Better Together campaign say

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they will be doing this. It is hard to understand. If it is on a knife

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edge, the Better Together campaign say they will do less media work.

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John Curtice, from Strathclyde, said it is easy to say that the Yes

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campaign has won this media battle in convincing people through posters

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and reaching the kitchen table in terms of conversation. It is hard

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when we are in the final votes, maybe the Better Together back

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campaign is an... Is it strange to you that they say they will back off

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a little bit? There is subtext because what happened early on is

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the Yes campaign bought up a lot of billboards sometime before now. They

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bought them specifically for this part of the campaign. Better

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together aren't backing off, they are having trouble finding space.

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Interesting. The Yes campaign have looked ahead, seen the billboard

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spaces and advertising and bought it up. They have bought up a

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substantial number. I saw a lot of them on the way to the studio and it

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is an arresting poster. It's a baby's hand in a big hand, saying

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Scotland's future in Scotland's hands. Speaking as a driver, I am

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not sure how much people pay attention. Marketers will be happy.

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Indeed. The Daily Mail, Prime Minister to Scots, don't go, I won't

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be here for ever. Is that the kind of message that will resonate? It is

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a mirror image of the other campaign. The Prime Minister is

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saying, don't break up because even if you don't like me or the Tories,

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famously, we only have one Tory MP in Scotland, this is temporary. Alex

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Salmond says the same thing. That No campaign have tried to hang the Yes

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campaign on the personality of Alex Salmond which is a polarising one.

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Alex Salmond's team has said that it isn't about the SNP or about Alex

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Salmond, he won't be there for ever, the Scots can vote for the work they

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want to in May 2016, so don't make it all about Alex Salmond. Both

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camps are saying not to personalise it but to look at it in terms of the

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big picture. Has it gone too far? Has it become a campaign of

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personalities? That is quite possibly the case. Both sides have

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made the argument that it isn't about one man or a one party but the

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way the campaigns have been run, it feels that way. The PM has said,

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don't make this an anti` Tory protest vote. That is what it might

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come down to four undecided people. Especially for yes voters as well.

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`` for undecided. We shouldn't blame the Prime Minister for all of this.

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He made an impassioned plea at this late hour. That might sway some

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voters. It will be interesting to see. He reminded everybody on the

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currency, passports, and pensions issue. In the emotion there is the

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message about what will happen if the referendum doesn't go the way

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the Tories want it to. Let's not forget that, uniquely in

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contemporary politics, not this time round it is a bout party politics.

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There has been a push to register voters `` about. People have wanted

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to have there it ability to write registered in Scotland. Tens of

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thousands haven't voted in the last two or three elections. `` to

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register. That is hard for either camp to engage. For a democracy is a

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fantastic way to show how a campaign can be run. The electorate is

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signing up to vote. That is a good thing for any democracy. Lessons

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should be learned from this in terms of how future campaigns should be

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run. The referendum in callback was 97%. A lot is at stake. `` Quebec.

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Menacing thugs who bully in the referendum debate shouldn't

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influence voters according to a Cabinet minister, Alistair

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Carmichael. Is he on to something? Has the campaign, from the yes

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side, being abrasive? `` been. The Daily Mail, in its incarnations,

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isn't a stranger to hyperbole. This is an irresponsible front`page based

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on nothing... I won't read the quotes. The people flagged as

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claiming some kind of intimidation are anonymous apart from a few

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politicians. It is anecdotal and wildly exaggerated. I have spent

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most of the last few weeks going to various meetings and demonstrations

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and I have seen nothing of this kind. I suspect that neither has

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Alistair Carmichael. I suspect he is being used because he is a decent

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chap, used by the paper to fan flames of hatred. It is wholly

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irresponsible of them. There has been a lot of anecdotal evidence of

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people turning up to pick up their kids at school and if there is the

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suggestion that they will vote no, vote for the union, they are told

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they are bad parents. All of this stuff is flying around. Is it here

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say put out by both sides to discredit the other? `` heresay. In

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such an impassioned referendum, those headlines will arise. This is

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an alarmist headline. Not showing the picture in any shape or form or

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how graphic might be. In any democracy, we have to have free and

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fair elections and people should feel comfortable which ever way they

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want to vote. We have private voting. People should vote whichever

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way they want and not feel intimidated. This is too alarmist

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and extreme. The line on top says sinister rise in threats and

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intimidation. Sinister? This is ludicrous. Unless you count people

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having a singsong, proclaimed songs of intimidation, I don't know what

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they are all about. It depends on what you think of The Proclaimers.

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The front page of the Times. We are powerless to save the hostage. This

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is the former taxi driver, Alan Henning, who is in the control of

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Islamic State. It looks as if it will be difficult to get him out

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alive. It does. The Defence Secretary says, we don't know where

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he is. While the efforts will be made to find him, if we can't locate

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him, it will be impossible. There was a Paris conference where

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countries have rallied around suggesting something needs to be

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done, whether it is strikes in Syria, we don't know. That would

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have legal complications without UN backing. Something has to be done

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because we have lost a British hostage as well as other countries

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have lost people in this. If we don't know where they are, it proves

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difficult. A military campaign looks like it will happen soon. What that

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will do for this particular man we don't know. For his family, having

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seen what has happened to Mr Haynes, it will be disturbing. We saw what

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happened to your countrymen, David Haines last week at the hands of

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this organisation in Iraq, of course the British government's policy will

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be that it won't negotiate with terrorists, but we know that the

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French for instance have paid money in order to release their nationals.

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`` Mr Haines. What would the view, I don't know his opinion, but what

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would Alex Salmond's view be if he controlled foreign policy in

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Scotland? I don't know the answer to that in terms of the hostage

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situation. His only recent statement has been to say that he wouldn't be

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involved in airstrike campaign War foreign military unless it was

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backed by the UN, Estancia took over the original Iraq war `` or. If we

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employed airstrikes, where? `` a stand. If we killed people on the

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ground, that would encourage the radicalisation of other young men,

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which is a horrible organisation not open to logic or persuasion. If we

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go to the front page of the Independent, Al Qaeda tried to stop

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the kidnapped of Alan Henning `` kidnap. The point must be made clear

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that Al Qaeda despises Islamic State and vice`versa. Al Qaeda believes

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that Islamic State is too extreme. It echoes what happened in summer

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when Boko Haram kidnapped those young girls from school. Al Qaeda

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made a similar statement which was, you are going too far. This isn't

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serving because we asked supposedly trying to fight for. It's in tune

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with what happened earlier in summer because it is an innocent aid worker

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who has been taken. There is a lot of international media attention as

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well. It's counter`productive and not Islamic. Something's happening

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in these factions between different communities of Islam, saying, we

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don't want to be as extreme as you because it is counter`productive to

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our cause. This case is an aid worker. Who is it supposed to be

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helping? It is confusing in terms of who we think is extreme and who is a

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moderate? Alan Henning gave up his job as a taxi driver to go out and

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ferry aid supplies. David Haines was also an aid worker. It's difficult

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to get your head around what exactly Islamic State is up to.

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pretty pass when Al Qaeda are being characterised as the moderates.

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unsavoury history as well, I think we're in uncharted waters now. Going

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to the Sun, and Ruth, this says it all. Bottom Line, Scotland poll

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latest, a verdict from the heavens. This is the Lord's speaking, Ruth?

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Does he get a vote? Scotland is gone. A nonbeliever, I don't know if

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she is speaking or not. Is she in the? She is probably black as well.

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Let's not go there. I have to say however that in a world of photo

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shopping, I think the Lord might have had less to do with it. To you

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think that is what this is? Clearly a cynic. I live in a world of cloud

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machines, so that is also possible. A fantastic graphic. Showing people

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what could be possible. It is not the end of the world. Well done the

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chaps at the Sun, and the Adobe photo shop machine. That is it for

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the papers, stay with us on BBC News. At the top of the hour more on

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the referendum as the big day draws ever closer. We will have analysis

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and last`minute efforts by both sides ahead of Thursday's vote. Now,

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Sportsday.

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